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Kingsnairaland:
Thomas called jesus my GOD
Jesus said you should eat my flesh to remember my death and resurrection
Question
Do your organisation eat jesus flesh
Jesus said pray to God to get the holy spirit
Question
Do your organisation pray to receive the holy spirit
Jesus said those who believe in me will speak with new tongues if they drink poison it won't kill them etc
Question
Do your organisation speak in tongues
I know the answers to this question from your organisation behaviour
But let me see what you are going to say

Kingsnairaland:
Exodus 3:14
Was originally written in Hebrew

John 8:58
Was said by Jesus in aramaic
But was originally written down in Greek



The original Hebrew words for Exodus 3:14 are אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh), meaning "
I Am That I Am" or
"I Will Be What I Will Be, " a phrase revealing God's self-existent, eternal, and ever-present nature,
linked to the divine name YHWH ( Yahweh ) .
The Hebrew Phrase
אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh ):
The first-person singular form of the verb "to be" (hayah), indicating "I am,"
"I will be," or
"I cause to be".
אֲשֶׁר (Asher) : A relative pronoun, translated as "that," "who," or "which".
אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh): Again, "I am" or "I will be".

Note I am is the original old translation

what the original Greek words of John 8:58



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In John 8:58, the crucial Greek phrase is "ἐγὼ εἰμί" (ego eimi), meaning "I am," used by Jesus in claiming divine preexistence before Abraham, contrasting the temporal "was" (γενέσθαι - genesthai) for Abraham with His eternal "I am".
The full core phrase is "πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί" (Prin Abraam genesthai ego eimi), meaning "
Before Abraham came to be, I am ".

Here's a breakdown of the key Greek words and their significance:
Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν (Amen amen lego humin): "Truly, truly, I say to you".
πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι (Prin Abraam genesthai): "
Before Abraham was" or "Before Abraham came into being" (referring to Abraham's birth/existence).
ἐγὼ εἰμί (Ego eimi): "I am "
(emphatic, implying eternal existence, connecting to God's "I AM" in Exodus 3:14).

Kingsnairaland:
I told you any things that partain to physical work it is only Jesus that do it

How many times will I say it

Raise himself from the dead is a physical work it requires body movement it is actually the work of jesus

Because jesus is the physical express image of God almighty

Kingsnairaland:
There are two ways to understand this second question

Let me use you as an example
Your father is greater than you in rank title right but when it comes to the class of been a human being he is equal to you

You are the same human being as your father right and

That is how it is
God the Father
The son
The holy spirit are the same class of God almighty

But when it comes to rank title the father is greater
When it comes to jesus been a man the father is also greater

But as God almighty they are one

Truthseeker10:
If "I am" or 'I will be" or "I cause to be" is the original Hebrew translation of Exodus 3:14, Does the rendering of the Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14 and the Greek of John 8:58 agree?

MaxInDHouse:
Irrelevant questions.

Jesus said i should believe him as God's only begotten Son!🙂

Kingsnairaland:
In spirit realm son of God means proceed from God almighty
Because the word is God himself it the word that created the universe that why Bible said jesus created it.

Kingsnairaland:
2 Corinthians 6:14 ►
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

New Living Translation
Don’t team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣So if the raising of Jesus was a physical work only for Jesus, explain Galatians 1:1.
King James Bible
Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead)


Does Jesus being the physical express image of the Almighty God make him lesser than the father who is also a product of the Almighty God according to you?

Truthseeker10:
Are you the same age with your father?
Do you and your father have the same strength capacity?
Between you and your father who existed first and has more experience?

sonmvayina:
be believing there......
when the time comes, your eyes will be open.
till them, continue enjoying the delusion.

Kingsnairaland:
In the class of God all 3has always existed before equally
but in human own it differs

Kingsnairaland:
It is because the father the son the holy spirit is God almighty that why you see Bible saying all of them raised jesus from the dead

But because you use fake Bible and you hate jesus that why you can't understand it

Your jw evil teacher did not cover those secrets because he did not know there is things that can reveal his evil nature lol

Kingsnairaland:
Are you not ashamed of saying this when you clearly see
I AM
in the first definition

Truthseeker10:
So God Almighty existed as Father, son and Holy spirit equally from eternity past? if yes, How come God Almighty who is the father Commanded God Almighty who is the Son in heaven to come to earth and die if there were actually coequal in heaven?

Kingsnairaland:
Many reason let me show you just few

First I told you before the job of the father is to speaking to make decisions

I told you God the Father main Job is to speak and make decisions...

Lol you said God the Father command jesus lol but you don't know

That Bible also said jesus volunteered by himself jesus said I have this command from my father to lay down my life voluntarily if I want

Lol
Jesus job is to act to work to do... Any thing you see God almighty doing it is actually jesus that do it

Glory
Lol I told you you don't know who jesus is because of your bible

Bible said jesus did not consider that he is equal with the father he chose to obey the father

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣look at this guy who claimed that it was only Jesus that did the raising because it was physical work that requires body movement, You don go involve Father and Holy Spirit for physical work again. Na wa ooo

Kingsnairaland:
There is no place that I said only Jesus raise himself I only told you do you want me to show you where jesus raised himself

I told you this because you claim it only the father that raise jesus

And after I show you that Jesus raise him God told me to also sho you where the holy spirit also raise jesus

It looks like you don't understand things you think I speak things that I don't know

You don't know I speak from God's wisdom he put in me

There is no sick person close to me that I have not made whole so listen when I speak the word of the almighty

Truthseeker10:
You are the one claiming here that the Greek of John 8:58 is the same as Hebrew of Exodus 3:14. You yourself is obviously not reading John 8:58 in original Hebrew. So please answer the question below.

If "I AM" is the first definition in Hebrew, are you saying that "I AM" does not appear in the Greek septuagint of Exodus 3:14? If it appears, does it agree with the Greek of John 8:58?

Kingsnairaland:
Let me tell you what I claim I said the translation of Hebrew Exodus and the translation of Greek John are both saying

I AM

It looks like you don't understand me before

Truthseeker10:
Are you telling me that you did not claim that it was Jesus that raised himself because it requires physical work of body movement? Does God the father and Holy Spirit do physical work of body movement?

Below in bold is your statement.

Raise himself from the dead is a physical work it requires body movement it is actually the work of jesus

Kingsnairaland:
Now let me tell you how

Now let me tell you how things work

GOD said to jesus you have authority to die and to come back to live

For the fact that God said this it now show it God that raise him

I told you father Job is to speak and he has spoken

Next holy spirit job is to give life to jesus dead body so it can come back to life

Next is for jesus to actually move his body to raise up so all the three had what they contribute to jesus that is why Bible said the three of them raise jesus back to life

Truthseeker10:
So anywhere I see "I AM" or "ego eimi" in the translation of Greek, it is referring to Exodus 3:14?

Is "I AM" the only way to translate "ego eimi" in Greek?

Kingsnairaland:
Show me any place in the Bible where someone said

I AM..

and you see fulstop
Or where they said only I am.

Truthseeker10:
1)According to the statement in bold above, Who is the God that said those things to Jesus?

Was it the father, the son or the holy spirit?

Below is John 10:18. Who was talking to Jesus?

King James Bible
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father

2)Did you not also tell me that Jesus Is the "life-giving Spirit" that gives life according to 1 Corinthians 15:45, so how come it was the holy spirit that gave life to Jesus?

Truthseeker10:
Lol...so "ego eimi" only means "I AM" and nothing else?

MaxInDHouse:
Irrelevant questions.

Jesus said i should believe him as God's only begotten Son! John 3:16🙂

Truthseeker10:
Oga why Is God Almighty the father commanding God Almighty the son if they are equal?

So God Almighty the son cannot speak and make decisions and you call him God Almighty?

Kingsnairaland:
Now let me break it down for you

GOD almighty is like a general he is so powerful that any thing that comes out from his mouth
We call it a command and we call it many things I list it below.

Even if God say to you please Mr Trump don't slap Mr zelensky

Do you know what we call it we call it a commandment from God to Mr Trump

Even though God add please

So any thing that comes out from the mouth of God
is a commandment ,
And it is also a human being which you can't see,
And it is also a spirit,
and it is also a force,
and it also laws,
And it is also a powerful being you can't see,
And it is also fire.

So God is not an ordinary being...

Now like I said before God the Father makes decisions and speaks

Now jesus also makes decisions and speaks

The holy spirit also makes decisions and speaks

But do you know what jesus said about himself... It only sweet jesus to do what the father decides and speaks.

Jesus said it pleases him to only do the will of his father

It so much pleases jesus to do what God speaks
it so sweet to jesus and it pleases jesus to only say what God says
It so much pleases jesus to say good things about the father

It so much pleases jesus to uplift the father

That is why you see the father saying only good things about jesus
That is why you see the father saying he gave jesus name to be above all names

That is why you see God the Father saying jesus is the everlasting father

That is also how Jesus and God the Father uplift the holy spirit and the holy spirit uplift God the Father and jesus too

Now jesus has his own will
But do you know what jesus said he said he chose for his will to be the will of his father

Glory

Now let me ask you one sweet question

DO YOU KNOW THE WILL OF
GOD THE FATHER

Kingsnairaland:
You see you now understand this things it just that you are ashamed to admit it yet

Only two people in the universe used that name God almighty and jesus

We call him the great


I AM
Lol...so "ego eimi" only means "I AM" and nothing else?
Don't worry I will show you more mysterious things in the Bible

Kingsnairaland:
You see you now understand this things it just that you are ashamed to admit it yet

Only two people in the universe used that name God almighty and jesus

We call him the great


I AM
Don't worry I will show you more mysterious things in the Bible

Kingsnairaland:
Only two people in the universe called themselves
I AM
in the Bible
GOD almighty and jesus