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Hell fire is real & burns forever. The soul is indestructible and will live on forever in either the new heaven or in hellfire. Do not be deceived.

Is hell real? Is it everlasting? Yes, and yes. If there is eternal life in heaven as Scripture notes, then there must be eternal death in hellfire. Souls are indestructible and are eternal. If a soul lives eternally in the presence of YHVH, then the soul that ends in hellfire is also eternally in flames of hell with Satan.

Contrary to popular false doctrines claiming that hell does not exist, or that hell is merely metaphorical, or that hellfire eventually ends, Scripture affirms its reality and eternal nature. The term “eternal fire” in Scripture does not mean a temporary punishment or symbolic metaphor—it consistently refers to unending judgment and destruction for the wicked. “Eternal fire” means unending judgment and separation from God, not a temporary state. It is described as unquenchable, everlasting, and tied to the second death, making it clear that hell is real and eternal. Here’s what the key passages teach:

The Unquenchable Fire: “Their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched.” (Isaiah 66:24). “He shall burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” (Matthew 3:12).

Everlasting punishment: Matthew 25:46 – The wicked go into “everlasting punishment,” while the righteous enter “life eternal.” Both states are equally endless.

Finality of Judgment: 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 – The ungodly face “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.”

Hell, lake of fire and the Second Death: “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:14–15). “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the Assemblies; He that overcomes shall not be hurt of the second death.” (Revelation 2:11). “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.” (Revelation 20:6). “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” {Revelation 21:8}.

Examples of Eternal Fire. “Even as Sodom and Gomorrah… suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. ” (Jude 1:7). “Turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow.” (2 Peter 2:6). “The day of the Lord will come… the elements shall melt with fervent heat.” (2 Peter 3:10)

Next. Eternal fire and the Justice of YHVH.

Why Eternal Punishment Is Just: Divine Justice & Love demands reality and eternal nature of hell.

Eternal Fire as Perfect Justice. Yahweh’s justice is rooted in His holiness and righteousness. Sin is rebellion against an infinitely Holy One, so the consequence must be proportionate—eternal separation and punishment (Romans 6:23). Matthew 25:46 – “These will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.” This shows that just as eternal life is the reward for righteousness, eternal fire is the just penalty for persistent sin and rejection of YHVH. 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 – “In flaming fire taking vengeance… punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.”

Justice Requires Finality. Justice is not arbitrary; it brings closure. Eternal fire represents final judgment—no appeals, no second chances after death. Revelation 20:14–15 – “Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire… and anyone not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” This is the ultimate act of divine justice. Revelation 21:8 – The wicked are separated forever, ensuring peace for YHVH people.

Justice Protects the Righteous. Eternal fire ensures that evil will never rise again to harm YHVH’s people. It is not only punitive but protective. 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 – “In flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know the LORD… punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the LORD.” Justice here is restorative for creation—evil is quarantined forever. Isaiah 66:24 – “Their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched.”

Justice Reflects YHVH’s Character. YHVH is love, but He is also just. If He ignored sin, He would cease to be righteous. Eternal fire demonstrates that God’s justice is uncompromising and His holiness absolute. Isaiah 66:24 – “Their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched.” This imagery underscores the seriousness of sin and the permanence of Yah’s judgment.
In short: Eternal fire is not about cruelty, it is about upholding divine justice, ensuring that evil is fully and forever dealt with, and affirming that YHVH’s moral order stands eternally.

Eternal Punishment in hell fire and YHVH’s Love. The compatibility of YHVH’s love with eternal fire is a profound theological topic. Scripture shows that YHVH’s love and justice are not contradictory; they work together. The love of YHVH warns and provides way of escape from hell fire. HIS love offers salvation to all (John 3:16), but love does not cancel justice. Matthew 7:21–23 – “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter… but he who does the will of My Father.” YHVH’s love is proactive. HE warns about eternal fire and provides a way of escape thru Christ. His desire non perishes.

Love Warns and Offers Salvation for escape from hell fire. John 3:16 – “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” 2 Peter 3:9 – “The Lord is… not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” This shows that eternal fire is not YHVH’s goal; His love offers salvation to all who accept it.

Love Does Not Cancel Justice. Love warns and provides a way of escape through Christ; justice acts when grace is rejected. YHVH’s love and justice work together. Love provides grace, but when grace is rejected, justice acts. Matthew 7:21–23 – “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father.”

To respond to YHVH’s love and escape the reality of hellfire for eternity? Repent and Turn to the LORD. YHVH’s warnings are an invitation to repentance, not condemnation. Acts 17:30 – “God now commands all men everywhere to repent.” 2 Peter 3:9 – *“The Lord is… not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” Believe in Christ for Salvation. Faith in Jesus is the only way to escape eternal judgment. John 3:16 – “Whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” John 14:6 – *“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” Live in Holiness and Obedience.

Warnings about eternal lake of fire are not just about belief—they call us to holy living. Hebrews 12:14 – “Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord.”

Next: The case against the false doctrine of annihilationism. Analyzing Ezekiel 18.4 & Malachi 4.1-3 & Luke 16.19-31

SeraphEl:
Hell fire is real & burns forever. The soul is indestructible and will live on forever in either the new heaven or in hellfire. Do not be deceived.

Is hell real? Is it everlasting? Yes, and yes. If there is eternal life in heaven as Scripture notes, then there must be eternal death in hellfire. Souls are indestructible and are eternal. If a soul lives eternally in the presence of YHVH, then the soul that ends in hellfire is also eternally in flames of hell with Satan.

Contrary to popular false doctrines claiming that hell does not exist, or that hell is merely metaphorical, or that hellfire eventually ends, Scripture affirms its reality and eternal nature. The term “eternal fire” in Scripture does not mean a temporary punishment or symbolic metaphor—it consistently refers to unending judgment and destruction for the wicked. “Eternal fire” means unending judgment and separation from God, not a temporary state. It is described as unquenchable, everlasting, and tied to the second death, making it clear that hell is real and eternal. Here’s what the key passages teach:

The Unquenchable Fire: “Their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched.” (Isaiah 66:24). “He shall burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” (Matthew 3:12).

Everlasting punishment: Matthew 25:46 – The wicked go into “everlasting punishment,” while the righteous enter “life eternal.” Both states are equally endless.

Finality of Judgment: 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 – The ungodly face “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.”

Hell, lake of fire and the Second Death: “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:14–15). “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the Assemblies; He that overcomes shall not be hurt of the second death.” (Revelation 2:11). “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.” (Revelation 20:6). “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” {Revelation 21:8}.

Examples of Eternal Fire. “Even as Sodom and Gomorrah… suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. ” (Jude 1:7). “Turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow.” (2 Peter 2:6). “The day of the Lord will come… the elements shall melt with fervent heat.” (2 Peter 3:10)

Next. Eternal fire and the Justice of YHVH.

1)If the soul does not die, explain Revelation 16:3 below.
King James Bible
And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

2)According to Isaiah 66:24 below, is the verse saying that people will go to hell fire with their flesh?
What do the worms eat in hell fire?

King James Bible
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

3)in 2 Peter 3:10 that you quoted, are you saying that heaven and earth will burn in hell fire?

4)in Revelation 20:14-15 that you quoted, why is death and hell thrown into the lake of fire, Is it to torment them forever?

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SeraphEl:
Hell fire is real & burns forever. The soul is indestructible and will live on forever in either the new heaven or in hellfire. Do not be deceived.

Is hell real? Is it everlasting? Yes, and yes. If there is eternal life in heaven as Scripture notes, then there must be eternal death in hellfire. Souls are indestructible and are eternal. If a soul lives eternally in the presence of YHVH, then the soul that ends in hellfire is also eternally in flames of hell with Satan.

Contrary to popular false doctrines claiming that hell does not exist, or that hell is merely metaphorical, or that hellfire eventually ends, Scripture affirms its reality and eternal nature. The term “eternal fire” in Scripture does not mean a temporary punishment or symbolic metaphor—it consistently refers to unending judgment and destruction for the wicked. “Eternal fire” means unending judgment and separation from God, not a temporary state. It is described as unquenchable, everlasting, and tied to the second death, making it clear that hell is real and eternal. Here’s what the key passages teach:

The Unquenchable Fire: “Their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched.” (Isaiah 66:24). “He shall burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” (Matthew 3:12).

Everlasting punishment: Matthew 25:46 – The wicked go into “everlasting punishment,” while the righteous enter “life eternal.” Both states are equally endless.

Finality of Judgment: 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 – The ungodly face “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.”

Hell, lake of fire and the Second Death: “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:14–15). “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the Assemblies; He that overcomes shall not be hurt of the second death.” (Revelation 2:11). “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.” (Revelation 20:6). “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” {Revelation 21:8}.

Examples of Eternal Fire. “Even as Sodom and Gomorrah… suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. ” (Jude 1:7). “Turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow.” (2 Peter 2:6). “The day of the Lord will come… the elements shall melt with fervent heat.” (2 Peter 3:10)

Next. Eternal fire and the Justice of YHVH.

Your Yah is a false God.

He is the false superior Summerian Annunaki Jehovah council of deities who reengineered human dna, and put us in a false Matrix.

The real God , the ineffebale and infinite God , the happy family, consist of four individuals.

Father yahua, our heavenly mother Shekinah,. Their twin children yashua and his twin Sister the bride, the rose of Sharon , cosmic mother, Womb, Matrix, and goddess of our universe and multiverse.

The false Jehovah Annunaki council put up a patriarch system of religion of worship. Based on dominance, subdugation of women, marginalization of humanity through religion and a host of others.

Jesus never taught religion or draconian laws, instead he taught philosophy, golden ratio, Kabbalistic numerology, sacred geometry, the Alchemy and purification of the soul towards Divine enlightenment.

Jesus was a Jewish Kabbalistic, he was a Jewish Mason, taught onthe compass and the Square, He praticed sexual Alchemy with Mary Magdalene.

The false God of the old testament, the draconian Jehovah Summerian Annunaki God called Anu, alongside his cohorts Enil, and Enki
With the Marduk And lil Annunaki races.

They created a false system of worship, dividing humanity alongside different religions, wiping our memory, and using shifting timelines using Mandela effects.

But don't worry the 144000 sons of God have been sealed, they will be revealed soon , as they fight alongside Jesus and his angels against the false Jehovah Yahweh and his archons, and the Annunaki Nephilims.

Tboy222:
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Your Yah is a false God.

He is the false superior Summerian Annunaki Jehovah council of deities who reengineered human dna, and put us in a false Matrix.

The real God , the ineffebale and infinite God , the happy family, consist of four individuals.

Father yahua, our heavenly mother Shekinah,. Their twin children yashua and his twin Sister the bride, the rose of Sharon , cosmic mother, Womb, Matrix, and goddess of our universe and multiverse.

The false Jehovah Annunaki council put up a patriarch system of religion of worship. Based on dominance, subdugation of women, marginalization of humanity through religion and a host of others.

Jesus never taught religion or draconian laws, instead he taught philosophy, golden ratio, Kabbalistic numerology, sacred geometry, the Alchemy and purification of the soul towards Divine enlightenment.

Jesus was a Jewish Kabbalistic, he was a Jewish Mason, taught onthe compass and the Square, He praticed sexual Alchemy with Mary Magdalene.

The false God of the old testament, the draconian Jehovah Summerian Annunaki God called Anu, alongside his cohorts Enil, and Enki
With the Marduk And lil Annunaki races.

They created a false system of worship, dividing humanity alongside different religions, wiping our memory, and using shifting timelines using Mandela effects.

But don't worry the 144000 sons of God have been sealed, they will be revealed soon , as they fight alongside Jesus and his angels against the false Jehovah Yahweh and his archons, and the Annunaki Nephilims.

Where does science support that the milultiverse exists?

Truthseeker10:
Where does science support that the milultiverse exists?

You don't need Science, you need eyes not of this world, the eyes of faith.

But just like Pastor Adeboye said "We are going back to the moon" we are going back to the Divine feminine, our cosmic Mother, the wisdom of God , her name is Sophia, bride and twin of yeshua.

The end is near, the rise of silver and gold prices, economic collapse, the crash of the dollar, three to ten days of darkness, geomagnetic storms, Solar flares and Aurora's .

I believe Donald Trump's is America last president, he is no 47 iwhich s is coincidentally the atomic no for silver.

He is also 79 years of age which is the atomic number for gold.

From next year we will see signs in the heavenlies, the days of Noah , just as Jesus promised, arrival of alien Motherships, return of the giant gods.

Tboy222:
You don't need Science, you need eyes not of this world, the eyes of faith.

But just like Pastor Adeboye said "We are going back to the moon" we are going back to the Divine feminine, our cosmic Mother, the wisdom of God , her name is Sophia, bride and twin of yeshua.

The end is near, the rise of silver and gold prices, economic collapse, the crash of the dollar, three to ten days of darkness, geomagnetic storms, Solar flares and Aurora's .

I believe Donald Trump's is America last president, he is no 47 iwhich s is coincidentally the atomic no for silver.

He is also 79 years of age which is the atomic number for gold.

From next year we will see signs in the heavenlies, the days of Noah , just as Jesus promised, arrival of alien Motherships, return of the giant gods.

🤣🤣🤣 No wahala bye bye

The most scary thing is that God will not pity anyone who ends up in Hell Fire and worse still the Lake of Fire.

So it's from Eternity yo Eternity, hence the warnings, hence the fight by the Devil and His agents to take God's beloved creatures with them to destruction.

Thank you Jesus for coming down and saving us, and letting us know that we can make it at last in the new everlasting world.

Amen

obonujoker:
The most scary thing is that God will not pity anyone who ends up in Hell Fire and worse still the Lake of Fire.

So it's from Eternity yo Eternity, hence the warnings, hence the fight by the Devil and His agents to take God's beloved creatures with them to destruction.

Thank you Jesus for coming down and saving us, and letting us know that we can make it at last in the new everlasting world.

Amen

What is the essence of the lake of fire since hell fire is already burning people?

Hell fire is eternal, timeless/ageless & you will remember EVERYTHING.

1. Hell’s Eternal Consciousness — Never Asleep, Never at Peace. You Remember Everything—And You Can't Escape It.

2. Time Doesn't Exist in Hell—And Why That's a judgment. No One Gets Older. Nothing Ever Gets Better

3. Demons Don’t Grow Old — And They Never Stop Tormenting

Bible References for timeless/ageless hell where you remember every. single. thing.

Luke 16:27-28 “The rich man in Hades remembered his brothers and his life on earth”.

Mark 9:48 “Their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.”

Revelation 14:11 says, “The smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever, and they will have no rest day or night.”

Isaiah 48:22 “There is no peace,” says the Lord, “for the wicked”.

Deutronomy 30:19 “I have set before you life and death… choose life.” (Deuteronomy 30:19). 2 Corinthians 6:2 — “Behold, now is the favorable time; behold, now is the day of salvation.”

2 Peter 3:9 – “The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead, he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance”.

Next: The case against the false doctrine of annihilationism. Analyzing Ezekiel 18.4 & Malachi 4.1-3 & Luke 16.19-31

A soul in scripture can represent few things, whole person or their essence. It's from Hebrew word Nephesh, which means either: whole person or their spirit/soul only.

What determines which 'soul' is referenced depends on context. In Rev. 16.3, it speaks of whole person.

* I will post a study on the meaning of soul later in this section. Stay tuned.

Truthseeker10:
1)If the soul does not die, explain Revelation 16:3 below.
King James Bible
And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

2)According to Isaiah 66:24 below, is the verse saying that people will go to hell fire with their flesh?
What do the worms eat in hell fire?

King James Bible
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

3)in 2 Peter 3:10 that you quoted, are you saying that heaven and earth will burn in hell fire?

4)in Revelation 20:14-15 that you quoted, why is death and hell thrown into the lake of fire, Is it to torment them forever?

Indeed Sir. People make joke of this, but it's going to be terrible even more because those who end up in lake of fire will remember every conversation about hell and how they didn't take it seriously. AND this regret will exist forever.

Just horrible to think of not only burning forever but remembering everything about your life on earth; and the messages about hell you ignored. Think of the eternal agony......

My LORD. Have mercy on them.

obonujoker:
The most scary thing is that God will not pity anyone who ends up in Hell Fire and worse still the Lake of Fire.

So it's from Eternity yo Eternity, hence the warnings, hence the fight by the Devil and His agents to take God's beloved creatures with them to destruction.

Thank you Jesus for coming down and saving us, and letting us know that we can make it at last in the new everlasting world.

Amen

SeraphEl:
Demons Don’t Grow Old — And They Never Stop Tormenting.

So if demons are the ones tormenting in there what is the punishment for demons?

Truthseeker10:
What is the essence of the lake of fire since hell fire is already burning people?

I think it's an upgrade for Hellfire!🤣

SeraphEl:
A soul in scripture can represent few things, whole person or their essence. It's from Hebrew word Nephesh, which means either: whole person or their spirit/soul only.

What determines which 'soul' is referenced depends on context. In Rev. 16.3, it speaks of whole person.

* I will post a study on the meaning of soul later in this section. Stay tuned.

So you mean that the whole person including the body can be referred to as soul? If yes, answer the questions below.

2)According to Isaiah 66:24 below, is the verse saying that people will go to hell fire with their flesh?
What do the worms eat in hell fire?

King James Bible
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

3)in 2 Peter 3:10 that you quoted, are you saying that heaven and earth will burn in hell fire?

4)in Revelation 20:14-15 that you quoted, why is death and hell thrown into the lake of fire, Is it to torment them forever?

Beware: Soul Annihilation is a Dangerous Doctrine: “The smoke of torment is forever” (Rev 14.11)

“The 2nd Death is Eternal Separation from YHVH NOT Annihilation.

The Soul (Hb: Nefesh) comprises of your mind, your will & your emotions. It can also represent the whole physical person. These aspects of the soul- person persist forever, and your spirit lives on eternally either in life or in fires of hell. This implies, you will retain your memory, ageless and timeless, writhing in agony forever. How? Just as spoken of in Scripture, all dead or alive will receive a resurrected body. This is the body for which your soul will inhabit and experience the burning and gnashing of teeth for all eternity. *More on this aspect of resurrected bodies coming.

“Eternal” Consequences is an Ongoing Experience. The Bible uses “eternal” for both punishment and life in Matthew 25:46: “These will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.” If eternal life means endless existence, then eternal punishment must mean endless suffering. The parallel makes it clear that both states are equally endless.

Eternal Fire Is Unending. The smoke of their torment is forever (Revelation 14.11) : 9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they (=bodies/souls of the wicked) have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Second Death does NOT mean Non-Existence. “Second death” in Revelation 20:14–15 refers to eternal separation from YHVH, not annihilation. Death here is relational, not merely physical. The wicked are cast into the lake of fire, which is described as unending and irreversible. Physical death is the first death, which all humans experience because of sin (Hebrews 9:27). The second death is the ultimate and irreversible judgment for those who reject God’s salvation.

Fire Consumes; but is unquenchable. Scripture calls hell’s fire “unquenchable” and says it “never shall be quenched” (Mark 9:43–48]. If fire simply consumed and ended, it would be quenched. Instead, the imagery emphasizes ongoing torment, not quick destruction.
Destruction does not mean cessation. Terms like “destroy” or “perish” often mean ruin, not cessation of existence. For example, 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 speaks of “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord,” which implies ongoing exclusion, not non-being.
Immortality of soul is for both righteous and the wicked. Immortality for the righteous does not mean the wicked cease to exist. The wicked experience the “second death” in the lake of fire, which is eternal separation and punishment (Revelation 21:8]. The fire is “unquenchable,” and the punishment is “everlasting.”

Leaving no root or branches (Malachi 4.1-3) speaks of the wicked not leaving any remnant on the new earth (after return of Christ). It does not mean, and it is not saying the soul of the wicked are annihilated.

Lake of Fire and Second Death. Revelation 20:14–15 – “Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire… anyone not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” This is called the “second death,” which is final and irreversible. Revelation 21:8 – Lists those condemned to the lake of fire, emphasizing its permanence. Example of Eternal Judgment. Jude 1:7 – Sodom and Gomorrah are described as “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire,” showing that God’s judgment is everlasting, not momentary. Everlasting Destruction. 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 –

The ungodly face “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.” The biblical evidence strongly supports that hell is real, eternal, and irreversible, not a temporary state ending in annihilation. The language of Scripture—eternal fire, unquenchable fire, everlasting punishment—consistently points to permanent separation from God rather than cessation of existence.

Key Points of the Case Against Annihilation

• The Nature of the Second Death is Relational, Not Just Physical: It is separation from YHVH’s presence forever (2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 – “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord”). Once cast into the lake of fire, there is no escape or second chance (Rev. 14: 9-11; 20:15). Yeshua describes hell as a place where “their worm shall not die, everlasting, and neither shall their fire be quenched” (Isaiah 66:24; Mark 9:43–48), implying ongoing experience.

• Death = Separation: In Scripture, death often means separation rather than extinction. Physical death separates body and soul; spiritual death separates man from YHVH; the second death is eternal separation from YHVH’s presence and blessings.

• Not Annihilation: If the second death meant non-existence, terms like “unquenchable fire” and “everlasting punishment” would lose meaning. Instead, these terms emphasize permanence and ongoing reality.

• Eternal hell underscores the urgency of salvation and ongoing sanctification; those who endure to the end will not pass thru 2nd death (Rev 2:11).

Next: Ezekiel 18, Malachi 4.1-3, & the parable of the rich & Lazarus in Luke 16: Spiritual Death, Conscious Existence & Eternal consequences

OH yes. You are thinking correctly. It does imply there will be bodies for worms to feast on. Yes indeed.

Recall that Scripture tells us that ALL peoples since beginning of time till the end will be recalled for Judgement?

So, we know believers get glorified bodies at the trumpet sound. We know also, unbelievers and all sinners will also get a resurrected body (albeit different from glorified status).

So, yes, there'll be bodies for worms to feast on. ALL souls receive a body at the judgement day; and then sent to 2nd death with this body where it continues for all eternity.

I will address this concept of resurrected bodies at some point in this post. Thanks for bringing it up.

Truthseeker10:
So you mean that the whole person including the body can be referred to as soul? If yes, answer the questions below.

2)According to Isaiah 66:24 below, is the verse saying that people will go to hell fire with their flesh?
What do the worms eat in hell fire?

King James Bible
24And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

3)in 2 Peter 3:10 that you quoted, are you saying that heaven and earth will burn in hell fire?

4)in Revelation 20:14-15 that you quoted, why is death and hell thrown into the lake of fire, Is it to torment them forever?

SeraphEl:
Beware: Soul Annihilation is a Dangerous Doctrine: “The smoke of torment is forever” (Rev 14.11)

“The 2nd Death is Eternal Separation from YHVH NOT Annihilation.

The Soul (Hb: Nefesh) comprises of your mind, your will & your emotions. It can also represent the whole physical person. These aspects of the soul- person persist forever, and your spirit lives on eternally either in life or in fires of hell. This implies, you will retain your memory, ageless and timeless, writhing in agony forever. How? Just as spoken of in Scripture, all dead or alive will receive a resurrected body. This is the body for which your soul will inhabit and experience the burning and gnashing of teeth for all eternity. *More on this aspect of resurrected bodies coming.

“Eternal” Consequences is an Ongoing Experience. The Bible uses “eternal” for both punishment and life in Matthew 25:46: “These will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal.” If eternal life means endless existence, then eternal punishment must mean endless suffering. The parallel makes it clear that both states are equally endless.

Eternal Fire Is Unending. The smoke of their torment is forever (Revelation 14.11) : 9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they (=bodies/souls of the wicked) have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Second Death does NOT mean Non-Existence. “Second death” in Revelation 20:14–15 refers to eternal separation from YHVH, not annihilation. Death here is relational, not merely physical. The wicked are cast into the lake of fire, which is described as unending and irreversible. Physical death is the first death, which all humans experience because of sin (Hebrews 9:27). The second death is the ultimate and irreversible judgment for those who reject God’s salvation.

Fire Consumes; but is unquenchable. Scripture calls hell’s fire “unquenchable” and says it “never shall be quenched” (Mark 9:43–48]. If fire simply consumed and ended, it would be quenched. Instead, the imagery emphasizes ongoing torment, not quick destruction.
Destruction does not mean cessation. Terms like “destroy” or “perish” often mean ruin, not cessation of existence. For example, 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 speaks of “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord,” which implies ongoing exclusion, not non-being.
Immortality of soul is for both righteous and the wicked. Immortality for the righteous does not mean the wicked cease to exist. The wicked experience the “second death” in the lake of fire, which is eternal separation and punishment (Revelation 21:8]. The fire is “unquenchable,” and the punishment is “everlasting.”

Leaving no root or branches (Malachi 4.1-3) speaks of the wicked not leaving any remnant on the new earth (after return of Christ). It does not mean, and it is not saying the soul of the wicked are annihilated.

Lake of Fire and Second Death. Revelation 20:14–15 – “Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire… anyone not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” This is called the “second death,” which is final and irreversible. Revelation 21:8 – Lists those condemned to the lake of fire, emphasizing its permanence. Example of Eternal Judgment. Jude 1:7 – Sodom and Gomorrah are described as “suffering the vengeance of eternal fire,” showing that God’s judgment is everlasting, not momentary. Everlasting Destruction. 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 –

The ungodly face “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.” The biblical evidence strongly supports that hell is real, eternal, and irreversible, not a temporary state ending in annihilation. The language of Scripture—eternal fire, unquenchable fire, everlasting punishment—consistently points to permanent separation from God rather than cessation of existence.

Key Points of the Case Against Annihilation

• The Nature of the Second Death is Relational, Not Just Physical: It is separation from YHVH’s presence forever (2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 – “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord”). Once cast into the lake of fire, there is no escape or second chance (Rev. 14: 9-11; 20:15). Yeshua describes hell as a place where “their worm shall not die, everlasting, and neither shall their fire be quenched” (Isaiah 66:24; Mark 9:43–48), implying ongoing experience.

• Death = Separation: In Scripture, death often means separation rather than extinction. Physical death separates body and soul; spiritual death separates man from YHVH; the second death is eternal separation from YHVH’s presence and blessings.

• Not Annihilation: If the second death meant non-existence, terms like “unquenchable fire” and “everlasting punishment” would lose meaning. Instead, these terms emphasize permanence and ongoing reality.

• Eternal hell underscores the urgency of salvation and ongoing sanctification; those who endure to the end will not pass thru 2nd death (Rev 2:11).

Next: Ezekiel 18, Malachi 4.1-3, & the parable of the rich & Lazarus in Luke 16: Spiritual Death, Conscious Existence & Eternal consequences

Death is real!
Hell fire implies death, not fire burning people.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

The second death implies, anyone who does not believe in Christ does not eternal life. That means the person is not resurrected when he is dead.

This is the picture the vision of John was trying to portray. Remember, revelation was a vision that needed interpretation.
So if you don't interpret it in line with the purpose of Christ which is eternal life, your interpretation will just be out of point.

There is no scripture that says the soul is indestructible.
Adam and Eve sinned from the beginning, death came.
If you don't have Christ, you don't have eternal life and that is death

I am quite sure you can reason and deduce that not all things need to be spelled out for you in Scripture. Else Bible will not be portable.

I believe I have given sufficient scripture for you to digest concerning the soul's indestructibility.

Son, humans are spirit and soul encased in a fancy hardened clay called 'body'. .

When you die, your soul continues on. At Judgement Day, this your soul receives another everlasting body. THIS is the body/soul that will BURN everlasting intact with all you mind, will, emotions, memory.


If hell fire is real and everlasting as Scripture clearly denotes, then what exactly do you think is burning forever? What is a body without a soul?

Believe otherwise at your own peril.

paxonel:
Death is real!
Hell fire implies death, not fire burning people.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

The second death implies, anyone who does not believe in Christ does not eternal life. That means the person is not resurrected when he is dead.

This is the picture the vision of John was trying to portray. Remember, revelation was a vision that needed interpretation.
So if you don't interpret it in line with the purpose of Christ which is eternal life, your interpretation will just be out of point.

There is no scripture that says the soul is indestructible.
Adam and Eve sinned from the beginning, death came.
If you don't have Christ, you don't have eternal life and that is death

SeraphEl:
OH yes. You are thinking correctly. It does imply there will be bodies for worms to feast on. Yes indeed.

Recall that Scripture tells us that ALL peoples since beginning of time till the end will be recalled for Judgement?

So, we know believers get glorified bodies at the trumpet sound. We know also, unbelievers and all sinners will also get a resurrected body (albeit different from glorified status).

So, yes, there'll be bodies for worms to feast on. ALL souls receive a body at the judgement day; and then sent to 2nd death with this body where it continues for all eternity.

I will address this concept of resurrected bodies at some point in this post. Thanks for bringing it up.

1)Lol...so when a sinner dies today, does he go to hell fire with his physical body?

2)in 2 Peter 3:10 that you quoted, are you saying that heaven and earth will burn in hell fire?

3)in Revelation 20:14-15 that you quoted, why is death and hell thrown into the lake of fire, Is it to torment them forever?

SeraphEl:
I am quite sure you can reason and deduce that not all things need to be spelled out for you in Scripture. Else Bible will not be portable.

you are very correct.
Nevertheless, everything you can deduce from the bible must come from a fact written in the bible.

You can't deduce anything from what is not written

When you die, your soul continues on.

Is there any scripture that specify how long the soul continues?

Physical Death Vs. Spiritual Death, Conscious Existence & Eternal consequences (Eze 18, Lk 16 & Mal 4).

Part 1 of 2. Analyzing Ezekiel 18: 4, 20, Malachi 4:1-3; & Luke 16:19-31.

The Conscious Existence & Eternal Consequences.

Ezekiel 18: 4, 20: The soul that sins shall die” — Spiritual death, not soul annihilation: The phrase “the soul that sins shall die” does not imply annihilation or extinction, as some incorrect teachings suggest. Rather, it refers to spiritual death—a complete separation from the presence of YHVH. It is illustrating Spiritual Accountability; each person is responsible for their own actions: “The soul who sins shall die” = the person who sins will face judgment. This does not mean physical annihilation but spiritual death—separation from God (as clarified in your document).

Luke 16:19–31: Soul’s Consciousness after physical death. . After death, the rich man is in torment in Hades, while Lazarus is comforted in Abraham’s bosom. Death does not end existence—the soul survives physical death and experiences either comfort or torment. Irreversible Destiny: A great chasm prevents crossing; judgment is final. Supports Eternal Hellfire: The rich man suffers ongoing torment, aligning with passages like Mark 9:48 and Revelation 20:10. Soul’s Immortality: Both men are conscious without bodies, proving the soul’s survival beyond death.

Malachi 4:1-3: Physical removal from earth, not soul annihilation. Malachi speaks of a coming day when the wicked will be burned up “leaving neither root nor branch.” This imagery emphasizes total and irreversible judgment—evil will be completely removed from the earth. There will be none of the wicked in the new earth. It does not mean annihilation of the soul; rather, it points to the permanent exclusion from God’s blessings and the destruction of all influence of evil. Compare to numerous passages that describe the destruction of the wicked from inheriting the new earth: Psalm 1: 4-6; 9:5-6; 37:9-11, 28-29; 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22).

Physical Death vs Spiritual Death

Ezekiel 18 speaks of “Spiritual death; a separation from YHVH”. Genesis 2:17: "In the day that you eat of it you shall surely die” understood spiritually first, then physically. Ephesians 2:1: Believers were once “dead in trespasses and sins.” These verses align with the clarification that “death” refers to being spiritually cut off from God, not physical cessation of existence.

The use of ‘soul’ in Ezekiel 18 as encompassing for physical whole person. “Ezekiel 18:20–24 emphasizes individual responsibility: “The soul who sins shall die… The son shall not bear the guilt of the father… if a wicked man turns away… he shall surely live… Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked?… Turn and live.” “The soul that repents lives”. Again, Ezekiel 18:21–22: “But if a wicked man turns away from all his sins… he shall surely live … his transgressions… shall not be mentioned unto him.” Ezekiel 18:32: “For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone… Turn and live!”. This directly ties repentance to life.

As Revelation indicates, even after judgment, sinners exist outside the gates. Spirits are indestructible and endure forever. Therefore, “the soul that sins die” and “the soul that repents lives” speak to eternal destiny, not physical mortality. Physical death is inevitable for all, but if a righteous person dies in sin, none of his former righteousness will be remembered, and his soul faces damnation. Conversely, if a wicked person repents before death, his soul will live eternally. The soul remains eternal and will face judgment at the Great White Throne, ultimately being cast into everlasting fire if not found in the Book of Life.

The messages of Ezekiel, Malachi and Luke.

# Ezekiel emphasizes the cause (sin → spiritual death/separation) and the hope (repentance → life).

# Malachi emphasizes the certainty and finality of judgment only, not soul’s annihilation.

# Luke illustrates those spiritually dead remain eternally separated and soul is conscious in torment.

All three testaments affirm: The soul is immortal. Judgment is personal and final. Eternal destinies differ based on repentance and righteousness.

Together, they form a consistent biblical theme: Sin → Spiritual Death → Eternal Consequences.

Next: Conscious Existence and Eternal Consequences. Part 2 of 2. Analyzing Luke 16:19-31. The Parable of the rich man and Lazarus.

paxonel:
you are very correct.
Nevertheless, everything you can deduce from the bible must come from a fact written in the bible.

You can't deduce anything from what is not written

Is there any scripture that specify how long the soul continues?

Let me pose back to you: What does the term 'eternal, forever, unquenching' mean to you? Can you put a number to it.

If you can put a number to those terms, then that's your answer.

SeraphEl:
Let me pose back to you: What does the term 'eternal, forever, unquenching' mean to you? Can you put a number to it.

If you can put a number to those terms, then that's your answer.

Anyway, this is the explanation!
When we die, scriptures says judgement happens immediately. Hebrews 19:27

That means as death happens to people at their different times, everyone have their own time of their judgement.

And God will conclude the judgement within a time frame that is as small as the time you blink your eye

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,...

If your name is found in the book of life after the judgement, as your blinking eye opens, you will see yourself alive with a new body. That is, your body will be changed. This is what is called resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed,

At the other hand, if your name is not found in the book of life, your eye will not blink open into life after it has blinked dead. You are dead forever or you are condemned without resurrection
John 3:18

The bottom-line is, believers are certainly going to resurrect back to life immediately the die.
This has been happening

Correct. Scripture teaches that after death comes judgment (Heb 9:27). Believers who die are with the Lord in the intermediate state (Phil 1:23; 2 Cor 5:8]. However, Bodily resurrection for all—the righteous to life and the wicked to judgment—occurs at Christ’s return, “in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,” at the last trumpet (1 Cor 15:51–52; 1 Thess 4:16–17; John 5:28–29).

At the final judgment, the Book of Life determines destiny (Rev 20:11–15).

Therefore, believers do not receive resurrection bodies immediately at death, and unbelievers are not condemned without resurrection.

paxonel:
Anyway, this is the explanation!
When we die, scriptures says judgement happens immediately. Hebrews 19:27

That means as death happens to people at their different times, everyone have their own time of their judgement.

And God will conclude the judgement within a time frame that is as small as the time you blink your eye

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,...

If your name is found in the book of life after the judgement, as your blinking eye opens, you will see yourself alive with a new body. That is, your body will be changed. This is what is called resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all die, but we shall all be changed,

At the other hand, if your name is not found in the book of life, your eye will not blink open into life after it has blinked dead. You are dead forever or you are condemned without resurrection
John 3:18

The bottom-line is, believers are certainly going to resurrect back to life immediately the die.
This has been happening

SeraphEl:
Correct. Scripture teaches that after death comes judgment (Heb 9:27).

True

Believers who die are with the Lord in the intermediate state (Phil 1:23;

Philemon 1:23 There salute thee Epaphras, my fellowprisoner in Christ Jesus;

The scripture is satuting fellow Christians.
It is not even talking about death talkless of intermediate state

2 Cor 5:8].

2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

The scripture did not mention anything intermediate.
Rather it confirms 1 Corinthians 15:38 that God will give us a new body when we resurrect

However, Bodily resurrection for all—the righteous to life and the wicked to judgment—occurs at Christ’s return,

Christ has been returning.
Anytime someone dies, that is the return of Christ to judge the person.
It is appointed once for men to die, after that the judgement.
After that, life continues as if nothing happens

“in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,” at the last trumpet (1 Cor 15:51–52; 1 Thess 4:16–17; John 5:28–29).

at the last Trump means at the last breath …
Trumpet is used to describe the final call, that your time has reach

At the final judgment, the Book of Life determines destiny (Rev 20:11–15).

very true!
And this happens within the shortest time frame that is as short as blinking of eye. After which the Christian come back to life again, or born again.

So to Christians, death is not real.
Infact, there is nothing like death. It is just blinking of the eye.

Therefore, believers do not receive resurrection bodies immediately at death,

meaning, they are dead and no eternal life?
You are equally saying that the purpose Christ resurrection is defeated which is not true…

Every Christians you see around once lived and died and resurrected.
It's a continuous cycle forever, no end..
There are scriptures for this.

and unbelievers are not condemned without resurrection.

what you are saying is, Christ resurrected for unbelievers too?

Revelation says whoever name is not written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death.

This tells us they died, and that is their end.

It appears that unbelievers are created while believers are recycled.
Any of the unbelievers who eventually accept Christ will join the recycling.
But if they continue with their unbelieving till the time of their death, they are gone forever

paxonel:
True

Philemon 1:23 There salute thee Epaphras, my fellowprisoner in Christ Jesus;

The scripture is satuting fellow Christians.
It is not even talking about death talkless of intermediate state

2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

The scripture did not mention anything intermediate.
Rather it confirms 1 Corinthians 15:38 that God will give us a new body when we resurrect
Christ has been returning.
Anytime someone dies, that is the return of Christ to judge the person.
It is appointed once for men to die, after that the judgement.
After that, life continues as if nothing happens
at the last Trump means at the last breath …
Trumpet is used to describe the final call, that your time has reach
very true!
And this happens within the shortest time frame that is as short as blinking of eye. After which the Christian come back to life again, or born again.

So to Christians, death is not real.
Infact, there is nothing like death. It is just blinking of the eye.
meaning, they are dead and no eternal life?
You are equally saying that the purpose Christ resurrection is defeated which is not true…

Every Christians you see around once lived and died and resurrected.
It's a continuous cycle forever, no end..
There are scriptures for this.
what you are saying is, Christ resurrected for unbelievers too?

Revelation says whoever name is not written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death.

This tells us they died, and that is their end.

It appears that unbelievers are created while believers are recycled.
Any of the unbelievers who eventually accept Christ will join the recycling.
But if they continue with their unbelieving till the time of their death, they are gone forever

1)If a person dies today and he is judged immediately, where did Abraham go when he died?

2)If death is like a blinking of an eye to believers, where did Lazarus who was a friend to Jesus go when he died?

2)Are you saying that all Christians would keep getting recycled on earth forever?

Truthseeker10:
1)If a person dies today and he is judged immediately, where did Abraham go when he died?

according to scriptures, at first he went to Abraham bossom. Luke 16:32.
But after Christ had died and resurrected he was taken to God's kingdom. Matthew 8:11

So Abraham is alive with us today. Matthew 22:32

It's possible that Abraham can be anybody we see around whose body has been changed.
Remember, when Jesus resurrected his body was changed too, his disciples could not recognize him.

2)If death is like a blinking of an eye to believers, where did Lazarus who was a friend to Jesus go when he died?

Lazarus believed in Christ that's why he was a friend of Christ.

Lazarus is alive with us today.

Ok, understand it from the concept of the other Lazarus who went to Abraham.
this is the concept :
God established the old covenant with Abraham and his descendant's(The isrsrlites) among which was Lazarus, were entitled to that covenant.
Unlike Lazarus the rich man died and was buried, because he wasn't part of the Abrahamic covenant.
Jesus came with the new covenant, since Abraham was justified into the new covenant, as many of the Jews or isrealites who believe in Christ, are also entitled to the new covenant rt too.
So, if Lazarus who was taken to Abraham bossom had believed, he too is alive with us today.

2)Are you saying that all Christians would keep getting recycled on earth forever?

Exactly!
There is no end to this!
It is everlasting life here on this earth.

God created Adam and Eve to live forever.
That was the original purpose.
And that is what he has achieved by sending his son Jesus Christ to come and die and resurect. Romans 5:18

paxonel:
according to scriptures, at first he went to Abraham bossom. Luke 16:32.
But after Christ had died and resurrected he was taken to God's kingdom. Matthew 8:11

So Abraham is alive with us today. Matthew 22:32

It's possible that Abraham can be anybody we see around whose body has been changed.
Remember, when Jesus resurrected his body was changed too, his disciples could not recognize him.

Are you telling me that Abraham went to his own bosom when he died?

Lazarus believed in Christ that's why he was a friend of Christ.

Lazarus is alive with us today.

Ok, understand it from the concept of the other Lazarus who went to Abraham.
this is the concept :
God established the old covenant with Abraham and his descendant's(The isrsrlites) among which was Lazarus, were entitled to that covenant.
Unlike Lazarus the rich man died and was buried, because he wasn't part of the Abrahamic covenant.
Jesus came with the new covenant, since Abraham was justified into the new covenant, as many of the Jews or isrealites who believe in Christ, are also entitled to the new covenant rt too.
So, if Lazarus who was taken to Abraham bossom had believed, he too is alive with us today.

Lol....so you're saying here that Lazarus who was Jesus friend was in Abraham bossom enjoying and Jesus brought him back to earth?

Where is this Abraham bossom located?

Exactly!
There is no end to this!
It is everlasting life here on this earth.

God created Adam and Eve to live forever.
That was the original purpose.
And that is what he has achieved by sending his son Jesus Christ to come and die and resurect. Romans 5:18

What exactly is the part of man that is being recycled here on earth?

Truthseeker10:
Lol....so you're saying here that Lazarus who was Jesus friend was in Abraham bossom enjoying and Jesus brought him back to earth?

obviously you did not read what i wrote

Where is this Abraham bossom located?

I think I also said that Abraham had covenant with God.
Your question is like asking, where is abraham covenant located?

You must understand that parables are illustrations of reality.
Abraham bosom in reality means Abrahamic covenant.
By the grace of God, we have Jews still living today

What exactly is the part of man that is being recycled here on earth?

The mind, which represent the spirit.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

It appears that the old body decay or corrupt when the believer dies. While a new body is given to him as a new creature.

But the mind still remain the same.

paxonel:
obviously you did not read what i wrote
I think I also said that Abraham had covenant with God.
Your question is like asking, where is abraham covenant located?

You must understand that parables are illustrations of reality.
Abraham bosom in reality means Abrahamic covenant.
By the grace of God, we have Jews still living today

The mind, which represent the spirit.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

It appears that the old body decay or corrupt when the believer dies. While a new body is given to him as a new creature.

But the mind still remain the same.

1)So where did people who died before Abraham go to?

2)are you saying that when Lazarus the friend of Jesus died for 4 days, he was in Abraham covenant with God? What kind of statement is this?

3)Are you saying that when people die, they do not go to a particular location whether it is heaven or hell or earth?

4)if the mind does not die and it represents the spirit, What about the soul?

Truthseeker10:
2)are you saying that when Lazarus the friend of Jesus died for 4 days, he was in Abraham covenant with God? What kind of statement is this?

read again what i posted.
You mentioned Lazarus the friend of Jesus which is not the same Lazarus that goes to Abraham bosom

They are two different Lazarus

if the mind does not die and it represents the spirit, What about the soul?

The is soul is the mind.
And you have to specify, it is the soul of the believer that doesn't die.
The soul of the unbeliever dies and is gone forever