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Lexusgs430:
Don't you like spending on 10% apr...... 🙄😂

lol .. i just saw this now https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c801k7rkkd7o

America is in a deep sh.t

justwise:
lol .. i just saw this now https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c801k7rkkd7o

America is in a deep sh.t

Dance with trump, or face a probe........ 😂

jedisco:
You forgot 'communist'.

It's the classic give a dog a bad name to hang it. The buzzword now is 'immigrant'. Well, those tactics are coming home to roost. The narrative used today in U.S politics to describe any human opposition to the current government as a 'radical leftist'. Once that's used, it doesn’t matter what they're saying- to Trumpists, they become the enemy. I.e slowly dehumanising dissenting voices.

Eitherway, make you dey careful before someone asks why you're in the west and not in China.

Communist is now "commie"

I was once like them until I asked myself some simple questions --

" Why do we always see hacks that the west says its supposedly from China & Russia but never the West. Na so them holy??"
"What are these countries actually like without input from CNN?"
"Why do the West always portray themselves as heroes in movies, TV, series and even games? Surely this cant be true all the time??"
"Why are they calling people in their own countries rebels while bombing them?"
"Why does everyone insult China but buy almost everything from them?" Even top designer brands simply buy from China and add their tags in Europe. Donald Trump's cap and accessories also had Made in China tags. I have also been buying stuff from there since at least 2009

When you ask yourself these questions and actually make some research yourself, you start to see all the lies.

More Westerners are going to China and filming things for people back in their home countries to see the lies and obvious whining. I mean, look at the engineering that went into building the below road while UK is still fighting for gender inclusion into rail construction

https://www.youtube.com/live/Age1GoUSbIY?si=Mi8jV9S3uppZ9bQ5

This is getting very interesting...

Former Conservative chancellor Nadhim Zahawi has defected to Reform UK

A former Conservative MP, Zahawi was chancellor for two months under Boris Johnson and served as a government minister from 2018 to 2023.

He said he felt the UK had reached a "dark and dangerous" moment, which was why the UK needed "a glorious revolution", as he outlined why he was joining Farage's party.

In a speech to Reform supporters, Zahawi said issues with free speech "on X or even just down the pub", and anyone trying to earn a living "without getting ground into the dirt" by taxes were reasons for his move

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0lxn75gw1do

justwise:
This is getting very interesting...

Former Conservative chancellor Nadhim Zahawi has defected to Reform UK

A former Conservative MP, Zahawi was chancellor for two months under Boris Johnson and served as a government minister from 2018 to 2023.

He said he felt the UK had reached a "dark and dangerous" moment, which was why the UK needed "a glorious revolution", as he outlined why he was joining Farage's party.

In a speech to Reform supporters, Zahawi said issues with free speech "on X or even just down the pub", and anyone trying to earn a living "without getting ground into the dirt" by taxes were reasons for his move

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0lxn75gw1do

Politicians are the same everywhere!

Santa2:
Politicians are the same everywhere!

He was sacked from Tory for tax fraud 2yrs ago https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68999222

Reform is really a good place for him

justwise:
He was sacked from Tory for tax fraud 2yrs ago https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68999222

Reform is really a good place for him

My oga. Transfer market don open both for 9ja & UK politicians. Reform na ACN of 2011 wey come become APC wey they rule us 🤔.

How many U - turns, can one ruling party undertake, before the government is deemed incompetent...... 😂🤣

That our sister from Labour, needs to have a word with KS...... 🤣

HustlaOfLagos:
They said China is the threat though with their spying EVs and their unbelievable attempts to make tech cheaper and more accessible without bombing other countries

While at it, sprinkle in buzzwords like "overcapacity", "threat", "state owned" , "government backed subsidies", "at what cost", "unfair trade practices", "market manipulation". "dystopian surveillance state", "social credit sysyem" and everyone loses their minds

But everything that is being said is the truth
China is committing multiple WTO violations that will have negative impact on other developing countries for decades to come

But the West looked the other way cos they were profiting from China's violations

So the fact that the west is now (hypocritically) blowing whistle doesn't mean China doesn't pose a direct threat to the self sustainability of dozens of developing countries

But like I always say, na because of cheap things impoverished Africans and other global south fellows dey buy for china na im dey make them sing their praises

But its not their fault sha

Three decades from now, if current trends hold, eye go clear and everybody go rest

Peace

RodgersAkpafu:
But everything that is being said is the truth
China is committing multiple WTO violations that will have negative impact on other developing countries for decades to come

But the West looked the other way cos they were profiting from China's violations

So the fact that the west is now (hypocritically) blowing whistle doesn't mean China doesn't pose a direct threat to the self sustainability of dozens of developing countries

But like I always say, na because of cheap things impoverished Africans and other global south fellows dey buy for china na im dey make them sing their praises

But its not their fault sha

Three decades from now, if current trends hold, eye go clear and everybody go rest

Peace

Erm which violations?

You mean the one where they went to kidnap another country's President and publicly gloated about taking over their oil? The one where they bombed a sovereign country and are threatening to annex their neighbours, Canada and far away Greenland?

The one in Libya? Afghanistan? Iraq? Cuba? Vietnam?

Which one

RodgersAkpafu:
But everything that is being said is the truth
China is committing multiple WTO violations that will have negative impact on other developing countries for decades to come

But the West looked the other way cos they were profiting from China's violations

So the fact that the west is now (hypocritically) blowing whistle doesn't mean China doesn't pose a direct threat to the self sustainability of dozens of developing countries

But like I always say, na because of cheap things impoverished Africans and other global south fellows dey buy for china na im dey make them sing their praises

But its not their fault sha

Three decades from now, if current trends hold, eye go clear and everybody go rest

Peace

💯

Unfortunately many African and Caribbean countries are too complacent and short-sighted to realise this.

Anyways, I really hope the UK government open their eyes and grow some b***s and say no to China on the super embassy, or at least water down their proposals. That would be a very welcome U-turn especially following the release of unredacted plans that include a network of more than 200 subterranean rooms, one of them directly alongside communication cables taking information to the City of London as well as email and message traffic from internet users. Not a coincidence, I'm sure.

The UK is also looking to build an embassy in Beijing and I highly doubt the Chinese would be so naive as to give us this level of access.

And yes, we all use/love Chinese products, but the UK's assets and security is worth a lot more than shiny EVs.

Lexusgs430:
How many U - turns, can one ruling party undertake, before the government is deemed incompetent...... 😂🤣

That our sister from Labour, needs to have a word with KS...... 🤣

I mentioned about a zillion times on this thread that the UK Labour Party (in opposition) is/was as clueless, incompetent & not ready to lead (just as Nigeria’s APC in 2014).

You know that something is amiss if our former Mrs Labour Party (who likes to call her opponents far right, but is unhappy if she is classed as far left) goes mute. Totally mute.

You know that the UK Labour Party under KS is so hopeless when you see that our dearest missjekyll has now been relegated to Naija Nairaland stories.

Last I heard, someone said it’s like she moved to the Green Party Abi was it Corbyn & Zarah Sultana’s party sef?


On a serious note. These U-Turns are now embarrassing.

Zahra29:
💯

Unfortunately many African and Caribbean countries are too complacent and short-sighted to realise this.

Anyways, I really hope the UK government open their eyes and grow some b***s and say no to China on the super embassy, or at least water down their proposals. That would be a very welcome U-turn especially following the release of unredacted plans that include a network of more than 200 subterranean rooms, one of them directly alongside communication cables taking information to the City of London as well as email and message traffic from internet users. Not a coincidence, I'm sure.

The UK is also looking to build an embassy in Beijing and I highly doubt the Chinese would be so naive as to give us this level of access.

And yes, we all use/love Chinese products, but the UK's assets and security is worth a lot more than shiny EVs.

The thing about life is that at the end of the day, time always reveals everything
When the ramifications come
Just like their ancestors before them
Africans will cry foul
But by then, it will be too late

I dont have energy to defend the bolded paragraph or to shalaye lmaooo

Anyone who dont get it, or disagree with it, should forget bout it
Peace ✌️

Dont bother

Forget about it

HustlaOfLagos:
Erm which violations?

You mean the one where they went to kidnap another country's President and publicly gloated about taking over their oil? The one where they bombed a sovereign country and are threatening to annex their neighbours, Canada and far away Greenland?

The one in Libya? Afghanistan? Iraq? Cuba? Vietnam?

Which one

RodgersAkpafu:
Dont bother

Forget about it

No o please educate me and other average Nigerians who don't know of these henious WTO violations perpetrated by China that the US and its vassals are so very innocent of.

From what little I know (sorry if it's innacurate; you know some of us just “ran masters package”, so we might not be as up-to-date as an elite immigrant like you), China isn't the (only?) one that has weaponized sanctions on countries they disagree with politically, slapped arbitrary tarrifs on a range of countries, threatened countries that want to shift away from dependency on the 'mighty dollar', invaded countries to steal their oil, sanctioned and locked out representatives of global institutions for daring to criticize its BigTech companies, used OFAC and the SWIFT system to strong-arm financial institutions worldwide, paralysed the WTO Appellate Body since 2017 when rulings went against it, pulled out of a variety of 'green' treaties while preaching sustainability AKA deindustrialisation to African countries, imposed export bans on critical technologies, using subsidies to enable their companies to engage in rampant food dumping in Africa; resulting in the collapse of poultry, milk and rice value chains in various countries, ati be be lo.

And this is just economic stuff o, not national security and military violations. But China is the boogeyman because they make things cheaply.

Good morning
Pls I need hacks on applying for jobs on nhs , a step by step guidelines

ReesheesuKnack:
I mentioned about a zillion times on this thread that the UK Labour Party (in opposition) is/was as clueless, incompetent & not ready to lead (just as Nigeria’s APC in 2014).

You know that something is amiss if our former Mrs Labour Party (who likes to call her opponents far right, but is unhappy if she is classed as far left) goes mute. Totally mute.

You know that the UK Labour Party under KS is so hopeless when you see that our dearest missjekyll has now been relegated to Naija Nairaland stories.

Last I heard, someone said it’s like she moved to the Green Party Abi was it Corbyn & Zarah Sultana’s party sef?


On a serious note. These U-Turns are now embarrassing.

The digital ID scheme he announced too, is no more...... MJ, we miss your political conversations........ 😂🤣

Goodenoch:
No o please educate me and other average Nigerians who don't know of these henious WTO violations perpetrated by China that the US and its vassals are so very innocent of.

From what little I know (sorry if it's innacurate; you know some of us just “ran masters package”, so we might not be as up-to-date as an elite immigrant like you), China isn't the (only?) one that has weaponized sanctions on countries they disagree with politically, slapped arbitrary tarrifs on a range of countries, threatened countries that want to shift away from dependency on the 'mighty dollar', invaded countries to steal their oil, sanctioned and locked out representatives of global institutions for daring to criticize its BigTech companies, used OFAC and the SWIFT system to strong-arm financial institutions worldwide, paralysed the WTO Appellate Body since 2017 when rulings went against it, pulled out of a variety of 'green' treaties while preaching sustainability AKA deindustrialisation to African countries, imposed export bans on critical technologies, using subsidies to enable their companies to engage in rampant food dumping in Africa; resulting in the collapse of poultry, milk and rice value chains in various countries, ati be be lo.

And this is just economic stuff o, not national security and military violations. But China is the boogeyman because they make things cheaply.

🤡 🤡 🤡

Like I said
I wont bother..... I have NO energy for shalaye....
If you dont agree, it's okay 👌

Three decades from now at the most
Everybody eye will clear
Peace ✌️ ✌️

RodgersAkpafu:
🤡 🤡 🤡

Like I said
I wont bother..... I have NO energy for shalaye....
If you dont agree, it's okay 👌

Three decades from now at the most
Everybody eye will clear
Peace ✌️ ✌️

Lol. How very predictable.

Goodenoch:
Lol. How very predictable.

🤡 🤡

RodgersAkpafu:
But everything that is being said is the truth
China is committing multiple WTO violations that will have negative impact on other developing countries for decades to come

But the West looked the other way cos they were profiting from China's violations

So the fact that the west is now (hypocritically) blowing whistle doesn't mean China doesn't pose a direct threat to the self sustainability of dozens of developing countries

But like I always say, na because of cheap things impoverished Africans and other global south fellows dey buy for china na im dey make them sing their praises

But its not their fault sha

Three decades from now, if current trends hold, eye go clear and everybody go rest

Peace

Nuff said

RodgersAkpafu:
Dont bother

Forget about it

Of course

4ever1:
Good morning
Pls I need hacks on applying for jobs on nhs , a step by step guidelines

Check Twitter, was posted in the NIUK community some time ago

Goodenoch:
No o please educate me and other average Nigerians who don't know of these henious WTO violations perpetrated by China that the US and its vassals are so very innocent of.

From what little I know (sorry if it's innacurate; you know some of us just “ran masters package”, so we might not be as up-to-date as an elite immigrant like you), China isn't the (only?) one that has weaponized sanctions on countries they disagree with politically, slapped arbitrary tarrifs on a range of countries, threatened countries that want to shift away from dependency on the 'mighty dollar', invaded countries to steal their oil, sanctioned and locked out representatives of global institutions for daring to criticize its BigTech companies, used OFAC and the SWIFT system to strong-arm financial institutions worldwide, paralysed the WTO Appellate Body since 2017 when rulings went against it, pulled out of a variety of 'green' treaties while preaching sustainability AKA deindustrialisation to African countries, imposed export bans on critical technologies, using subsidies to enable their companies to engage in rampant food dumping in Africa; resulting in the collapse of poultry, milk and rice value chains in various countries, ati be be lo.

And this is just economic stuff o, not national security and military violations. But China is the boogeyman because they make things cheaply.

It is even crazy that it is no longer covert as it used to be since Trump came in. He tweets about it in real time and does not even sugar coat it anymore.

At least with Biden, Bush and co, they could use diplomacy and Queens English to form saints while doing it in the back but Trump does not even time to put a filter on it.

I mean this is Trump literally doing what you spoke about in the screenshot but people have been so socially conditioned via movies etc that its mind boggling

Zahra29:
💯

Unfortunately many African and Caribbean countries are too complacent and short-sighted to realise this.

Anyways, I really hope the UK government open their eyes and grow some b***s and say no to China on the super embassy, or at least water down their proposals. That would be a very welcome U-turn especially following the release of unredacted plans that include a network of more than 200 subterranean rooms, one of them directly alongside communication cables taking information to the City of London as well as email and message traffic from internet users. Not a coincidence, I'm sure.

The UK is also looking to build an embassy in Beijing and I highly doubt the Chinese would be so naive as to give us this level of access.

And yes, we all use/love Chinese products, but the UK's assets and security is worth a lot more than shiny EVs.

At the bolded, no, that's not the case. Give some credit to both sides of your ancestral regions here. Everyone knows that the Chinese are just another bunch of sharks out to prey upon the weak, but since we live in shark-infested waters and have no defences we are simply resigned to being prey. There's a conversation to be had about that resignation and how we ended up in that role, but not regarding where African and Caribbean countries are.

Waiting with bated breath to see what's eventually decided regarding the Chinese super embassy. I have the feeling that Starmer will sign it off, probably just to show that there'll be no more U-turning. While I really wish Labour and Starmer will succeed, I have to say that it's not looking good for them with all the reversals of policy. The ID one annoyed me in particular as it was spectacularly ill-thought-through from the beginning. It's generally the case (not just here but also in other developed countries that attract immigrants) that the general [British] public are usually massively uninformed about how the immigration system works. Many people believe that legal immigrants can claim benefits for instance. They have no idea how much people have to pay for visas and so forth and generally tend to believe the narratives they read in the papers. It generally seems that it's only those who've got friends or family members who have to engage with the immigration system have some or very good knowledge of how it works.

Labour's ID plan felt this way. You get the impression that the people making policy don't actually know how their own immigration system works either. One would think that the government, who runs the eVisa system, would know that legal immigrants already have digital ID so introducing digital ID for the whole country to combat illegal working would be pointless, and isn't a good reason to advance for wanting to do so. You wonder where their Sir Humphreys are doing (if indeed any still remain) - why is no-one getting rid of these ideas before they are announced as policy in the first place?

Zahra29:
💯

Unfortunately many African and Caribbean countries are too complacent and short-sighted to realise this.

Anyways, I really hope the UK government open their eyes and grow some b***s and say no to China on the super embassy, or at least water down their proposals. That would be a very welcome U-turn especially following the release of unredacted plans that include a network of more than 200 subterranean rooms, one of them directly alongside communication cables taking information to the City of London as well as email and message traffic from internet users. Not a coincidence, I'm sure.

The UK is also looking to build an embassy in Beijing and I highly doubt the Chinese would be so naive as to give us this level of access.

And yes, we all use/love Chinese products, but the UK's assets and security is worth a lot more than shiny EVs .

Would you have said the same if it was the US? Sha don't lie to us cos we no wear pampers.

African and Caribbean countries, if they were not short sighted would go with China.

At least with China, we wont have useless wars and we get to have some infrastructure if we are willing to pay for it. Peep Brazil, which is how they were able to bypass some of Trump's tariff spat with investments in grains and BYD EVs there - https://www.alvarezandmarsal.com/thought-leadership/china-s-strategic-investment-surge-in-brazil-m-a-activity-hits-eight-year-high

...and you just seem to have a problem with the EVs . They are coming to Europe by 2027 whether you like it or not and people will always favour cheap and reliable over way more expensive European cars

UK - US foreign policy pictured as hint

Zahra29:
💯

Unfortunately many African and Caribbean countries are too complacent and short-sighted to realise this.

Anyways, I really hope the UK government open their eyes and grow some b***s and say no to China on the super embassy, or at least water down their proposals. That would be a very welcome U-turn especially following the release of unredacted plans that include a network of more than 200 subterranean rooms, one of them directly alongside communication cables taking information to the City of London as well as email and message traffic from internet users. Not a coincidence, I'm sure.

The UK is also looking to build an embassy in Beijing and I highly doubt the Chinese would be so naive as to give us this level of access.

And yes, we all use/love Chinese products, but the UK's assets and security is worth a lot more than shiny EVs.

You mean spying like this: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/09/politics/pentagon-leaked-documents-us-spying-allies-foes

Or this: https://theconversation.com/recent-spy-scandals-reveal-how-western-allies-are-increasingly-unreliable-friends-256353

or this: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-usa-spy-official-idUSKBN0FF1GU20140711/

or this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57302806

or this: https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3217537/un-voices-concern-reports-us-spying-un-chief

Come off it abeg

HustlaOfLagos:
It is even crazy that it is no longer covert as it used to be since Trump came in. He tweets about it in real time and does not even sugar coat it anymore.

At least with Biden, Bush and co, they could use diplomacy and Queens English to form saints while doing it in the back but Trump does not even time to put a filter on it.

I mean this is Trump literally doing what you spoke about in the screenshot but people have been so socially conditioned via movies etc that its mind boggling

Some people are too far deep into their kool-aid bottles.

Goodenoch:
You mean spying like this: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/09/politics/pentagon-leaked-documents-us-spying-allies-foes

Or this: https://theconversation.com/recent-spy-scandals-reveal-how-western-allies-are-increasingly-unreliable-friends-256353

or this: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-usa-spy-official-idUSKBN0FF1GU20140711/

or this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57302806

or this: https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3217537/un-voices-concern-reports-us-spying-un-chief

Come off it abeg

She was the one saying national security kinikan when they said Chinese guys are spying through their EVs and listening in on conversations. Ridiculous stuff when its so easy to detect if this is indeed happening.

They are never the ones spying, its always China & Russia meanwhile they even have movies about their spies o ... abi James Bond 007 was made about a Nigerian bricklayer?

Goodenoch:
Some people are too far deep into their kool-aid bottles.

Too funny

West - Good
China - Bad

If you ask them to name 10 countries China has invaded now in the last 50 years, you will hear plenty shalaye

Cyberknight:
At the bolded, no, that's not the case. Give some credit to both sides of your ancestral regions here. Everyone knows that the Chinese are just another bunch of sharks out to prey upon the weak, but since we live in shark-infested waters and have no defences we are simply resigned to being prey. There's a conversation to be had about that resignation and how we ended up in that role, but not regarding where African and Caribbean countries are.

Waiting with bated breath to see what's eventually decided regarding the Chinese super embassy. I have the feeling that Starmer will sign it off, probably just to show that there'll be no more U-turning. While I really wish Labour and Starmer will succeed, I have to say that it's not looking good for them with all the reversals of policy. The ID one annoyed me in particular as it was spectacularly ill-thought-through from the beginning. It's generally the case (not just here but also in other developed countries that attract immigrants) that the general [British] public are usually massively uninformed about how the immigration system works. Many people believe that legal immigrants can claim benefits for instance. They have no idea how much people have to pay for visas and so forth and generally tend to believe the narratives they read in the papers. It generally seems that it's only those who've got friends or family members who have to engage with the immigration system have some or very good knowledge of how it works.

Labour's ID plan felt this way. You get the impression that the people making policy don't actually know how their own immigration system works either. One would think that the government, who runs the eVisa system, would know that legal immigrants already have digital ID so introducing digital ID for the whole country to combat illegal working would be pointless, and isn't a good reason to advance for wanting to do so. You wonder where their Sir Humphreys are doing (if indeed any still remain) - why is no-one getting rid of these ideas before they are announced as policy in the first place?

At the bolded - not everyone -see Hustla for examples of those who view China as some kind of altruistic, benevolent business partner lol

I take your point, although I dare say it is more sobering than mine - having no better options than being prey...

I'm waiting with bated breath too, but I'm not very hopeful especially as KS is due to visit Beijing next week and expectations are that he will feel pressured to show up with a gift in tow - and the Chinese have signalled their growing impatience with the delivery of this super gift. The LP are largely opposed to the Embassy plans but I don't think KS has the bottle to stand up to the Chinese. Sigh....

I completely agree re the ID plans. It made no sense from the beginning as RTW checks already exist - it's the enforcement that needs to be worked on, not the means to check.

Lol @ Sir Humphreys...alas, none remain. The closest was probably Alastair Campbell, circa 2000.