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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:40pm On Jan 17 |
eph12:Rashford ship has sailed abeg. Let everybody involved move on from that relationship. I don't think we should sell Ugarte just yet. We can keep him for another year as 4th choice CM for squad depth. I'll prefer we sell Dalot but I can live with him eating bench |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 7:58pm On Jan 17*. Modified: 9:19pm On Jan 17 |
larride:Beating Liverpool is as sweet. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:13pm On Jan 17 |
Leyqute:It will be interesting to see ineos transfer decisions in the summer. I'm not convinced they'll want to spend that much unless we make good sales |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:13pm On Jan 17 |
larride:They said you were sad |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:14pm On Jan 17 |
Lana1:We need to give that space to someone like Kone. He's better of sold if he's going to be 4th choice |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 8:59pm On Jan 17 |
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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 9:22pm On Jan 17 |
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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:58am On Jan 18 |
It could have been a different story if dalot was shown a red card that early in the game. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 7:42am On Jan 18 |
I can see amorim at Tottenham |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 7:43am On Jan 18 |
We need to use that nothinham forest temple versus arsenal |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 7:58am On Jan 18 |
MRTA7:Absolutely especially at A field. Beating Arsenal will be the cherry on the cake |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 7:59am On Jan 18 |
eph12:Why will I be sad that the team I support win. ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 8:00am On Jan 18 |
Mrviktor:We are going to the Emirates |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 8:24am On Jan 18 |
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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:25am On Jan 18 |
They have still not shown the VAR images of that Mount goal that was ruled offside. PGMOL should fear God o. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by maik99(m): 8:57am On Jan 18 |
Lana1:You people amaze me mehn Why exactly should Ugarte and Dalot not be sold Don't you get tired of watching dross? |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by akwesenana: 9:29am On Jan 18 |
Jamiuokolaa:Amorim is bad. I see delulus saying he's going to replace Pep at shitty. ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:41am On Jan 18 |
eph12:No, we used to have a dysfunctional setup. How many times did Maguire and Martinez face the kind of pressure we used to face under Amorim's setup? |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:13am On Jan 18 |
Now the dust has settled, let me drop my take on the performance yesterday. 1. The players were only 30% of the problem, the bulk of it was the dysfunctional setup deployed by Amorim. In a 4-3-3 formation, there are a lot of bodies in the middle, so it is difficult for the opposition to play through the middle. Yesterday, with Bruno (He surprisingly stuck to his position), Mainoo and Casemiro, we had control in the midfield and enough bodies to stop City from attacking us through the middle. This alone meant that the defence was not left exposed as was the case with Amorim's 3-4-2-1 (3-4-3) formation. In Amorim's setup, the 3 CBs were left exposed for the most part, which is suicidal at this level, but in the 4-3-3 setup, we were more proactive than reactive; we stopped a lot of attacks before they got to our box. 2. Bruno, as the most advanced of our midfielders, ensured that the ball kept moving with quick passes and constant movement. He showed us what we have been missing by playing him in a 2-man midfield. 3. We need a LWF. I admit Dorgu had an above-average game, but we need more at this level. Amad on the right ensured Ake and, later on, O'Riley were on their toes for the entirety of the game with his direct runs and dribbles. When Cunha came on, he looked even more effective playing from the right even though he might prefer playing from the left. If Cunha were on the left, he would look to cut in and shoot rather than drive to the byline and cross. I hope we can get a LWF forward in the summer. 4. Casemiro is irreplaceable at the moment. Age might have caught up with the combative Brazilian, but his experience and passing are indispensable. For someone renowned for his tackling, Casemiro's ability to play a one-time pass is often not talked about as much as it should. He is a calming presence in our midfield, one that we must replace with a player of similar attributes come the summer. 5. Mainoo is not as bad as we thought he had become. I thought he complemented Casemiro very well yesterday with some very good movement and short passing. If Carrick can get the best out of Mainoo, it will do the club a lot of good... I don't want to talk about Martinez and his ball-playing abilities, as I think it's already common knowledge. In the whole, we looked much better in a 4-3-3 setup, which seems like the formation that's best suited for the majority of players in our setup. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:13am On Jan 18 |
patrickmuf:Of all the sins of Amorim his cardinal sin was playing his 3-4-3 which requires a 2-man midfield when NONE of our midfielders is suited to 2-man midfield. That was what made his set up dysfunctional and that was what led to our defence being under so much pressure. Asking 2 men who can't do the job of 2 men to do the job of 3 men. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:17am On Jan 18 |
afrodoc2:Exactly. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 10:17am On Jan 18 |
patrickmuf:Good football for the most part is very simple to the eyes.. Allow players do what they're good at and not these unnecessary tactical nonsense.. Every player on the pitch yesterday was for the most part in his comfort zone which helped them defend together and attack together.. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:24am On Jan 18 |
But then you have to question the wisdom of the top guys who went for a strict 3-4-3 coach in the first place. Fingers have been pointing at Berrada as the person who pushed for Amorim. Ashworth didn't want him because of the formation issue but that one wanted Southgate. Wilcox also didn't want Amorim because of the formation issue. I think Amorim's sack is linked to Wilcox finally getting control over football matters above Berrada. The formation is only part of the problem though. All our struggles pre-Amorim came in a back 4 formation. Wilcox and Vivell have to work hard at improving the squad and appointing a quality head coach. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:27am On Jan 18 |
CrystalTiger:As simple as ABC. Play to the strength of your PLAYERS, and do not overcomplicate things. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by akwesenana: 10:27am On Jan 18 |
afrodoc2:Do you think he'd have been sacked if he didn't make that outburst after the Leeds game? Personally I think it's not yet Uhuru as those guys up there look clueless. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:31am On Jan 18 |
afrodoc2:Amorim has shown he is a terrible manager with the poor job he did at Leverkusen...One think I noted yesterday was the fact that Bruno was not all over the place like was the case in Erik Bin Laden's era, he was posionally disciplined, and it help us contain City in the middle of the park...Pep had to sub Foden after the first half for Cherki who was also subdued. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 10:44am On Jan 18 |
afrodoc2:I think but not sure that they only checked the offside against Ake but they should have checked against Rodri as well who looked like he was further behind. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 10:44am On Jan 18 |
Jamiuokolaa:Conte also abused Tottenham So I don't think they care about him |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 10:46am On Jan 18 |
afrodoc2:Either Berrada or Wilcox or both needs to be sacked at the end of the season. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:48am On Jan 18 |
Besides good tactical formation by Carrick the energy n determination ( which I didn't often see in Amorim tenure) was there.They wanted that win but can they sustain that same energy in other matches?.Tbh Amorim left us much better than when he met us .He bought good players . Arrogancy n rigidity is what finish him As for Mainoo let us pray this positive ascendency continues |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by OneDollarSalary(m): 10:59am On Jan 18 |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:11am On Jan 18 |
patrickmuf:No matter what happens going forward one can't take away the fact that it was a coaching masterclass. Let's pray for more of such for the rest of the season. They said Carrick and McKenna were the ones who did the coaching during Ole's tenure. Talking about the City players, so many of them ghosted the game. Haaland and Foden had no impact. Semenyo did nothing all game (Pep has to move him to the left). Another quiet ghost was Rodri who i suspect is terminally finished. That knee injury seems to have wrecked him. The only Ballon d'Or level player on that pitch was Ballon Dorgu. ![]() |
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