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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 4:57pm On Jan 26
afrodoc2:
Yes. If he delivers a convincing top 3-4 finish playing good football and front foot football especially against the lower teams he will be in contention. If that happens then we can't reject him for another unproven manager like Glasner, De Zerbi etc. Only top tier managers like Enrique, Flick, Nagelsmann should be considered if Carrick does extremely well in this interim period.

But like you said, the real test will come against the lower teams. Can he device a way to consistently breakdown low blocks and can he find a way to inspire the players to consistently play with the same energy and discipline against unfashionable teams.
5th place will inevitably deliver UCL football, considering that Laliga and Bundesliga have 1 team each knocked out of the UCL already, and Bilbao and Napoli are struggling.

If Carrick can get 5th place which should get us UCL, i will suggest he stays and we back him in the summer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by everton4life(m): 5:02pm On Jan 26
Regardless of who's going to be the manager entering next season, that manager should be backed with a strong midfield with balanced physicality and technicality. undecided


I'm tired of seeing that midfield assembled in a Frankenstein pattern angry angry angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:04pm On Jan 26
afrodoc2:
I think you are right about Holland. That is why I mentioned Carrick’s coaching staff in an earlier post.

Holland is said to be a very good defensive organiser who did some good work at Chelsea and with the national team.
I think given the pedigree of Holland and I also heard that Woodgate is very good as a defensive coach. I think if we add 2/3 more coaches with variable skills, they will make a formidable coaching crew to suceed. Even Arteta was also inexperienced when he joined Arsenal. So why not Carrick if he does well till the end of the season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Goosethetruth(m): 5:04pm On Jan 26
Lol...😁
Michael Carrick, you are doing very well no matter how they try to gaslight and denigrate your achievements.
Just take one game at a time. Where ever we end up nobody knows. On to Fulham at the weekend.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:06pm On Jan 26
afrodoc2:
Not as explicit as your post but when i mentioned Carrick's coaching crew it was Holland i was talking about.

Carrick with Boro was known for setting up his teams to create chances but they also conceded chances. At least that is what heard. So, this our defensive solidity is probably partly due to Holland.
Woodgate has also been mentioned as a very good coach too
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:32pm On Jan 26
That we won City and Arsenal b2b doesn’t mean we don’t seriously need more quality players, especially in midfield.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:50pm On Jan 26
CapitalCee:
Woodgate has also been mentioned as a very good coach too
Oh ok. That’s good. I didn’t know about that.

They have done well so far. They are about to face a different set of questions soon and hopefully they have the right answers.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:53pm On Jan 26
CapitalCee:
5th place will inevitably deliver UCL football, considering that Laliga and Bundesliga have 1 team each knocked out of the UCL already, and Bilbao and Napoli are struggling.

If Carrick can get 5th place which should get us UCL, i will suggest he stays and we back him in the summer.
The manner in which he does it is also Important. If he just does Jama jama and wuruwuru to the answer to get it then that is not sustainable or easily repeatable.

In all our excitement we should try avoid repeating the Ole mistake.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:10pm On Jan 26
afrodoc2:
The manner in which he does it is also Important. If he just does Jama jama and wuruwuru to the answer to get it then that is not sustainable or easily repeatable.

In all our excitement we should try avoid repeating the Ole mistake.
If he does well give him 1 year contract. With an option to activate 1 more year. Madrid has Arbeloa now Chelsea has Rosenior so Ole’s mistake is unlikely. All these hipstar coaches dont work most times.
Any coach not named Flick, Enrique or Pep. Then we continue with Carrick
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 6:23pm On Jan 26
LostMyZeal:
Continue? Honestly, I don't trust these players. We saw all these with Ole and RVN. The first 20 minutes of the game flashed our memory back to those boring and pointless gameplay where Rashford or Martial would eventually save the day and we chant Ole at the wheels, knowing there are obvious cracks in the team. The dreadful gameplay of not being able to string passes successively couldn't hide itself and that speaks volume.

Overall, Carrick deserves a chance should they sort the midfield and get rid of the likes of accidental Dalot.

If we continue with these crop of guys, all I can say is Omo
My problem is Carrick riding on wave of new manager bounce? Amorim has already structured all players to be defensively minded n discipline .lt was there to see yesterday.If Carrick is really good tactically it will show as more matches are being play.Presently besides Dalot,Yoro we r not too bad so I didn't really understand what u mean " if we continue with these crops of guys" . Personally is only that midfield we need to strengthen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:26pm On Jan 26
engrelvis:
My problem is Carrick riding on wave of new manager bounce? Amorim has already structured all players to be defensively minded n discipline .lt was there to see yesterday.If Carrick is really good tactically it will show as more matches are being play.Presently besides Dalot,Yoro we r not too bad so I didn't really understand what u mean " if we continue with these crops of guys" . Personally is only that midfield we need to strengthen.
Which useless Amorim? You forget so easily.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 6:45pm On Jan 26
patrickmuf:
Which useless Amorim? You forget so easily.
l didn't forget . Amorim main sin was not playing players in their main position n tweaking formation.Discipline was gradually being restored when Rashford ,Gnarcho n co were sent packing.No mata how good Carrick is if he doesn't know how to bring down the hammer when necessary the team will crumble.Amorim f..ked up but he also brought some sanity .
If Carrick continue like this he should be given one yr contract,then watch n c.l dnt really like Erique or Xavi.Well know coaches v not been favouring us .let go back to basics
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Goosethetruth(m): 6:51pm On Jan 26
Gaslighting all over the place.
Gaslighting Carricks defensive set up as Ruben Amorims set up....lol...😊
Gaslighting by comparing Michael Carrick tactical abiluty to Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's new manager bounce. NO THIS IS DIFFERENT!!!
Carrick has got the so called "USELESS" players liking and enjoying their football again.

Fans need t relax and take thing easy. Carrick may not have a fancy name or have won a Portuguese league title but he is a quiet and cerebral,thinking coach. He has got the team playing positive Manchester United football.
We need to support him until the end of the season.
Simple.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 7:23pm On Jan 26
Goosethetruth:
Gaslighting all over the place.
Gaslighting Carricks defensive set up as Ruben Amorims set up....lol...😊
Gaslighting by comparing Michael Carrick tactical abiluty to Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's new manager bounce. NO THIS IS DIFFERENT!!!
Carrick has got the so called "USELESS" players liking and enjoying their football again.

Fans need t relax and take thing easy. Carrick may not have a fancy name or have won a Portuguese league title but he is a quiet and cerebral,thinking coach. He has got the team playing positive Manchester United football.
We need to support him until the end of the season.
Simple.
No Gaslighting bro.Am very open minded.Alot of people here insulted ETH when Amorim newly came on board, especially when he started using Amad.lf Carrick is the one that will take us to promise land then I will throw my full weight behind him but I will never agree Amorim didn't improve us a little esp with quality of players bought.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Goosethetruth(m):
engrelvis:
No Gaslighting bro.Am very open minded.Alot of people here insulted ETH when Amorim newly came on board, especially when he started using Amad.lf Carrick is the one that will take us to promise land then I will throw my full weight behind him but I will never agree Amorim didn't improve us a little esp with quality of players bought.
You are entitled to your opinion and have a right to support Amorim. Just don"t do it surreptitiously.
Many ran down the current players. Nany termed the players as USELESS. Many told us the players had no legs. Many told us that 3 at the back was the only way and sancrosanct.

Michael Carrick has come in and shown that the players are not useless at all. The coach only needs to play all the players to their strengths.
In my opinion, Amorim SHOULD have been sacked after his rubbish set up against Tottenham in the Europa league final last season. If he was to be given a little leeway he should havd been sacked after he lost to Grimsby this season.
There is no gaslighting this issue. Ruben Amorin was a dreadful coach who reduced the expectations of Manchester United as a club and institution. He made fans think finishing 15th on the league table waz alright and not an aberation. He made fans think losing constantly and consisrently was alright. He had Manchester United playing negative toxic football and convinced people like you that it was alright. Amorim consistently threw the players under the bus. He made it seem the fault came from the players and not from his mad cap strait jacket foitball system.
Michael Carrick on the other hand is a breath of fresh air. He has got the players playing to their ultimate potentials. Let us allow him to take each game,one at a time. Where ever the team ends up at the enc of the season,at least we should bd happy that the team is playing positive foitball in the Manchester United way and not playing 8 defenders at the back against teams like Wolves. The positivity will certainly get the team a champions league berth. Then the board can take it to the next level from there.
Simple.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 8:26pm On Jan 26
CapitalCee:
Chelsea away is the issue, we can beat Liverpool at home. For Chelsea away we can play haram football and scrap a draw. They are our rivals for the top 4 race
The Liverpool fixture would always be a tricky one..regardless of their form.

If City drop points vs Spurs next week, we could be 5/6 points from 3rd if we win against Fulham.

We just need to find a way to win our matches vs lower ranking teams..especially the home fixtures.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 9:44pm On Jan 26
I heard Arteta rocks up to training and tells his coaches I want my damn corners like he's Avon Barksdale.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:49pm On Jan 26
See the Dibling that Southampton wanted to scam us with...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by everton4life(m): 10:55pm On Jan 26
Jose Bordalas might just be the most haramic and disgusting coach I've ever seen to manage a team. Which kain satanic football Getafe dey play like this angry angry angry undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 10:59pm On Jan 26
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:31pm On Jan 26
everton4life:
Jose Bordalas might just be the most haramic and disgusting coach I've ever seen to manage a team. Which kain satanic football Getafe dey play like this angry angry angry undecided
That man is the most defensive-minded coach in the world...I have known him and his Getafe team for some time now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by everton4life(m): 11:43pm On Jan 26
patrickmuf:
That man is the most defensive-minded coach in the world...I have known him and his Getafe team for some time now.
Omo, that match is an eyesore. Upon everything, Girona still score dying minute goal undecided Na the fans wey dey buy tickets to watch that sacrilege of a match I dey pity pass. embarassed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:49pm On Jan 26
everton4life:
Omo, that match is an eyesore. Upon everything, Girona still score dying minute goal undecided Na the fans wey dey buy tickets to watch that sacrilege of a match I dey pity pass. embarassed
I noticed his utterly defensive style when Greenwood was on loan there. For Greenwood to have done well they tells you he is a special talent...

That Bordelas makes Mourinho and Simeone look like coaches who play ultra-attacking football...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:37am On Jan 27
everton4life:
Jose Bordalas might just be the most haramic and disgusting coach I've ever seen to manage a team. Which kain satanic football Getafe dey play like this angry angry angry undecided
Hehehe. The Bin Laden of football. The guy has unearthed the most arcane secrets of disgustingly negative football. I watched that team for a whole season when Greenwood was there. I would rather cut off my ears and use them to block my eyes than watch another Bordelas team play football again.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:40am On Jan 27
[quote author=Mrviktor post=138270175] antagonist to fan boy. This world na akamara world. grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 9:02am On Jan 27
LordAdam16:
yours is an unpopular opinion
and i don't miss amorim -- i don't think for a second he'd have beat man c and ars b2b

but...
we had three shots on target yesterday and scored all three
against city we should have scored 7 but we only put 2 on the scoreboard

if we had better conversion and a deeper bench from the start of the season
we'll be title contenders because the rest of the league has been inconsistent

nonetheless, it is fair to admit that carrick's setup is better for this crop of players
and amorim's game management was atrocious

hopefully we'll keep creating a dozen chances per game because we consistently need a sh*tload to outscore the opposition

-Lord
Yeah, I love unpopular opinions cos I don't follow the crowd. If Carrick doesn't get solid support, these players will fade away soon.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 9:04am On Jan 27
engrelvis:
My problem is Carrick riding on wave of new manager bounce? Amorim has already structured all players to be defensively minded n discipline .lt was there to see yesterday.If Carrick is really good tactically it will show as more matches are being play.Presently besides Dalot,Yoro we r not too bad so I didn't really understand what u mean " if we continue with these crops of guys" . Personally is only that midfield we need to strengthen.
I still don't trust these players though. Even Carrick is not carried away. They're suspects
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 10:11am On Jan 27
This is it!!! grin cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:03am On Jan 27
Harry Amass has joined Norwich City on loan after a personally successful loan at Sheffield Wednesday. It will be interesting to see how he develops because Diego Leon has not looked too good so far (maybe 1st season settling in problems).

We currently have 3 RBs with potential in the academy should be able to get at least a squad player out of that group.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 12:00pm On Jan 27
Dorgu out for nearly 3 months. undecided undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:05pm On Jan 27
MRTA7:
Dorgu out for nearly 3 months. undecided undecided
I feared as much.

It must have been a bad hamstring injury. Poor kid. Just as he was starting to get going.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 12:15pm On Jan 27
MRTA7:
Dorgu out for nearly 3 months. undecided undecided
Why always us for heaven's sake?

We just can't genuinely have nice things constantly..
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