₦airaland Forum

Nteogwuija:
You didn't get the point, and I won't blame u.

Oga there is no point to get. In a church structure there are some things that can be changed. Some churches have changed their uniforms because some people may be feeling oppressed that they don’t have enough clothes. These are suggestions you can bring up to the pastorate and they can do something about it…now some churches are like cult agreed….if they refuse your suggestion you can leave the choir or find another better bible believing church that doesn’t push materialism

But to come and say church almost turned you to a runs girls is very absurd that’s the point because nobody can force you to do what you don’t want.

Peer pressure

wellmax:
Una go leave true and living church, go dey attend fake church then come online to rant.

Based on this, about 90% of churches in Nigeria are fake.

Name the ones that aren't fake? Redeemers, Deeperlife, Anglican or Celestial? Name them!

Just take your L and accept that christianity has become a toy in the hands pulpitprenuers and morally bankrupt politicians.

And this is what you people want Islam to become; a directionless religion. But Allah will always protect his religion from perverts.

So glad she called out the church. 8f people study the scriptures themselves, there are things they would demand of their pastors.

Is a evil world we are living in..
May God have mercy on us

Catholic still reman the best all clothes worn by choirs and alter boy are provided by the church u just take them home to wash and iron them
Thk God for Catholics

Na why scandals surplus for choir na, wahala for who never benefit

Some church are not meant for the poor, come to the island, falomo, ikoyi, lekki and see how unclad some people come to the church, i wonder what the pastors are preaching to them, they came with big cars, elegant clothes, rough hair, short and mini skirts, all sort of immoral dressings and look that will make you questioned the religion doctrines.

miracle002:
How can a woman so much painted like the queen of the coast be a servant of God. She is just looking for excuse to leave the church.

Mere looking at her picture, what shows she is a true child of God

Nope,listen to her and understand her before condemning her.She was a young girl who just left secondary school not now that she is old and wear make up like many women arround the world. I thank God for her life and for the courage to speak up.Many victims do not speak up that is why it keep going south in our churches. GOD bless her for sharing the truth.

100 percent fact

Amotolongbo:
Church ⛪️ is a social gathering like club where everyone comes to showcase physical and artistic activities

In contrast to what God ordained His Church to be.

Pls don't say that.
You wouldn't understand the pressure.

stagger:
Your own lusts nearly pushed you into it.

miracle002:
How can a woman so much painted like the queen of the coast be a servant of God. She is just looking for excuse to leave the church.

Mere looking at her picture, what shows she is a true child of God

Sharap

Seun na wetin ur mods dey like push to front page bdis every Sunday.... No wahala na

That department called CHOIR
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Na there evil dey hide inside church
Get your choirs right, get the church right
I no go talk pass like that

Years ago in Gombe, I can remember when the resident pastor of living had to warm church groups on fashion. He said some people don't eat but spend their last penny on clothings. People live all manner of life to meet up. He said no uniform should be announced on the pulpit. God used him to speak people's mind, he has chased ladies who dress seductively .

He was a Yoruba

Incognito403:
Based on this, about 90% of churches in Nigeria are fake.

Name the ones that aren't fake? Redeemers, Deeperlife, Anglican or Celestial? Name them!

Just take your L and accept that christianity has become a toy in the hands pulpitprenuers and morally bankrupt politicians.

And this is what you people want Islam to become; a directionless religion. But Allah will always protect his religion from perverts.

I am a Christian, and I will not be clutching an “L” on behalf of other people’s moral recklessness. The presence of religious hustlers is hardly a groundbreaking discovery, it is a recurring feature of human history. Corruption in the pulpit does not invalidate Christianity any more than corruption in government abolishes the idea of governance itself.

Brandishing figures like “90% of churches are fake” is intellectual showmanship without substance, lazy arithmetic cosplaying as deep analysis. And since you are demanding a denominational headcount, Christianity was never designed as a franchise system where authenticity is proven by brand names, Redeemed, Deeper Life, Anglican, Celestial, or whichever label soothes your curiosity. Judas walked with Christ Himself, ate at the same table, heard the same sermons, and still betrayed Him, by your logic, Christianity should have been buried in the first century.

Yes, pulpitpreneurs exist, yes, morally bankrupt politicians weaponize religion, applause for noticing the obvious. That indictment stains the characters involved, not the faith they exploit for relevance and profit. Christianity is not defined by loud microphones, oversized titles, or flashy auditoriums, it is defined by Christ. Wherever the gospel is preached with sincerity and lives are genuinely transformed, the Church is very much alive, whether it operates from a cathedral, a storefront, or a living room you would never bother to notice.

Dragging Islam into this conversation as a scarecrow argument is unnecessary and intellectually dishonest. Christians are not on a crusade to make Islam “directionless,” and faiths do not need to cannibalize one another to prove legitimacy. If you believe Allah protects Islam from perversion, Christians equally believe God preserves His Church, often in spite of its most visible and embarrassing representatives.

You are free to critique hypocrisy, Scripture does it far better and far more brutally than you ever could. But confusing human failure with divine falsehood is not courage or clarity, it is theological laziness dressed up as confidence.

CJStarz:
In contrast to what God ordained His Church to be.

Abi Paul.
Which God created church?

She's absolutely right
I've been in that situation before

You no born again, you are not part of the sheep of Jesus christ. And I know say all enemies of the church way de NL penis go raise because of that blackmail from that unbeliever.. Shioo!

You can't understand we the believer if you are not born again genuinely not attending church services and think you are part of us.

A life in Christ is an experience, not just head knowledge.

Everything she narrated is true. They have monetized Christianity. They have left the gospel of christ, and they do is to preach prosperity. They are nor longer interested in winning soul for christ anymore. Sometimes I don't really feel going to church anymore.

Even though the demands for being in the so called choir seemed ridiculous, are you telling me that as an adult human, the only way you could have made money was through sleeping with men?

Runs girl is small mosque for turn u to suicide bomber

Prostitution sef dey your eye. See your face

MorolayoVictor:
I am a Christian, and I will not be clutching an “L” on behalf of other people’s moral recklessness. The presence of religious hustlers is hardly a groundbreaking discovery, it is a recurring feature of human history. Corruption in the pulpit does not invalidate Christianity any more than corruption in government abolishes the idea of governance itself.

Brandishing figures like “90% of churches are fake” is intellectual showmanship without substance, lazy arithmetic cosplaying as deep analysis. And since you are demanding a denominational headcount, Christianity was never designed as a franchise system where authenticity is proven by brand names, Redeemed, Deeper Life, Anglican, Celestial, or whichever label soothes your curiosity. Judas walked with Christ Himself, ate at the same table, heard the same sermons, and still betrayed Him, by your logic, Christianity should have been buried in the first century.

Yes, pulpitpreneurs exist, yes, morally bankrupt politicians weaponize religion, applause for noticing the obvious. That indictment stains the characters involved, not the faith they exploit for relevance and profit. Christianity is not defined by loud microphones, oversized titles, or flashy auditoriums, it is defined by Christ. Wherever the gospel is preached with sincerity and lives are genuinely transformed, the Church is very much alive, whether it operates from a cathedral, a storefront, or a living room you would never bother to notice.

Dragging Islam into this conversation as a scarecrow argument is unnecessary and intellectually dishonest. Christians are not on a crusade to make Islam “directionless,” and faiths do not need to cannibalize one another to prove legitimacy. If you believe Allah protects Islam from perversion, Christians equally believe God preserves His Church, often in spite of its most visible and embarrassing representatives.

You are free to critique hypocrisy, Scripture does it far better and far more brutally than you ever could. But confusing human failure with divine falsehood is not courage or clarity, it is theological laziness dressed up as confidence.

1. You must take L for any wrong done by any Christian anywhere. That's the same standard you hold Muslims to so why do you shy from it.

2. 90% is from my experience. And I've experienced thousands of random church samples. Even you can't afford a research that will randomly select as many churches as I have seen.

3. Actually, Christianity is defined by loud microphones. Else why did Primate Ayodele ask Adelabu Penkelemeesi for 150million naira to purchase musical instruments?

4. Christians are indeed on a crusade to make Islam directionless. There are tens of christians pretending to be muslims on Nairaland and Twitter just to spread perversion amd immorality.

5. I don't need you to tell me what Im free to do. I will alway call out deviants, liars, perverts and deviant ideologies like CAN, Redeemers, Dachomo , Oyedepo and Odumeje.

jesusjnr2020:
It's alarming how many modern day churches are pushing their members into illicit and criminal activities through their ungodly and antichrist teachings, policies and excessive demands, thereby turning the church into a den of thieves and criminals.

I won't be surprised if the church whose choir she joined is led by a prosperity preacher, because such are the fruits of that antichrist gospel, which has turned many souls, into thieves, ritualists, prostitutes, babalawos, fraudsters, and so on, as a result of the pressure it puts on members, and even leaders, to get rich at all cost by its demonising and segregation of the poor and their poverty.

Instead of helping and giving to the poor as Jesus and His apostle preached and practiced, they would be oppressing, shaming, mocking them, and casting them aside just because of their poverty, thereby pressuring them to get rich at all cost even if it means doing something evil and sinful.

Thank God in her case she didn't allow the pressure from the church to get to her and make her go astray as it did others.

I appreciate her for sharing her story so it could inspire others who find themselves in similar position and being put under such pressure by their church, that It's possible not to bow to such pressure, and it's better to leave such a church before they did such damage to one's soul and spiritual life.

God bless.

It's funny how every church believes the other church is the one in error. But we all believe our church is the right one

Young Christians of this generation are totally shameless , no respect for God at all
There is no Sunday that churches are not being dragged , there is no Sunday that men of God are not being dragged .

You must have something to say about Christianity like you are the only ones with religion in this country

Do you know what other religions are passing through?

In the midst of the drama they are facing you won't see them talk down on their religion or their leaders.

Even traditional worshipers don't talk down on their gods The way Christians talk down on their religion and even make mockery of their creator.

With all this you expect to have a perfect live and a perfect country?

You don't respect your creator
You not respect your religion
You don't respect your religious leaders
You don't respect your leaders
You don't respect your elders
How life wan come better for you?

You can insult me oo
But I have said the truth.

I know one pastor must trend today on social media .

Clothing is very important, if you are going to church please dress well to cover up. And be respectful, if you see someone coming out of the door, wait for them to pass. Be humble and be kind.

Nowadays people are turning it into a fashion show.

Having been in a choir myself in can relate to some of the things she said though she exaggerated a bit

Nodogragra4me:
Oga or Madam

You want to see a church where all the anti Christian values you mentioned are paraded go the orthodox churches


Those churches that glorifies a donor by having their names announced , inscribed in pews and conducts family harvest ,children, adult and main harvest

They do launching and bazaar with father's and mother's of the day

Have knights with no spiritual values of any kind traceable to the bible


That is here ritualist and fraudster are given knighthood , made father's patrons , pillars , mother's and the kind

Where a knight can stop going 5o church because a dead man was not mentioned for giving from the much he received from god to build a church

The lady is not a member of the orthodox church, but pentecostal. Why drag orthodox church into the discussion? Just go ahead and refute her claims with counter facts rather than deflecting the conversation that can help other trapped in immorality by circumstances, even in church leadership to be liberated . Btw, she even mentioned the name of the church.

jesusjnr2020:
It's alarming how many modern day churches are pushing their members into illicit and criminal activities through their ungodly and antichrist teachings, policies and excessive demands, thereby turning the church into a den of thieves and criminals.

I won't be surprised if the church whose choir she joined is led by a prosperity preacher, because such are the fruits of that antichrist gospel, which has turned many souls, into thieves, ritualists, prostitutes, babalawos, fraudsters, and so on, as a result of the pressure it puts on members, and even leaders, to get rich at all cost by its demonising and segregation of the poor and their poverty.

Instead of helping and giving to the poor as Jesus and His apostle preached and practiced, they would be oppressing, shaming, mocking them, and casting them aside just because of their poverty, thereby pressuring them to get rich at all cost even if it means doing something evil and sinful.

Thank God in her case she didn't allow the pressure from the church to get to her and make her go astray as it did others.

I appreciate her for sharing her story so it could inspire others who find themselves in similar position and being put under such pressure by their church, that It's possible not to bow to such pressure, and it's better to leave such a church before they did such damage to one's soul and spiritual life.

God bless.

Did you have time to ask the lady, how many other clothes she has outside choir uniform .......the same lady will not hesitate to buy 7 pair of leggings and revealing trousers at a go, but wen it comes to decent uniform, she would be wearing to church, it becomes problematic.

If indeed, you really want to serve God, what stop you, whenever if want to buy clothes to use for your outings, you buy type of colour and dresses you can also use as choir.

jesusjnr2020:
It's alarming how many modern day churches are pushing their members into illicit and criminal activities through their ungodly and antichrist teachings, policies and excessive demands, thereby turning the church into a den of thieves and criminals.

I won't be surprised if the church whose choir she joined is led by a prosperity preacher, because such are the fruits of that antichrist gospel, which has turned many souls, into thieves, ritualists, prostitutes, babalawos, fraudsters, and so on, as a result of the pressure it puts on members, and even leaders, to get rich at all cost by its demonising and segregation of the poor and their poverty.

Instead of helping and giving to the poor as Jesus and His apostle preached and practiced, they would be oppressing, shaming, mocking them, and casting them aside just because of their poverty, thereby pressuring them to get rich at all cost even if it means doing something evil and sinful.

Thank God in her case she didn't allow the pressure from the church to get to her and make her go astray as it did others.

I appreciate her for sharing her story so it could inspire others who find themselves in similar position and being put under such pressure by their church, that It's possible not to bow to such pressure, and it's better to leave such a church before they did such damage to one's soul and spiritual life.

God bless.

This is actually the main reasons why I left the pentecostal church i was previously attending to return back to my anglican church were i was raised.