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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 11:50pm On Feb 08
Lexusgs430:
Keir should negotiate with the leaseholders, would make very descent accommodation for those English channel refugees/illegal immigrants/invaders ...... 😂🤔🤣
Hehe... wawulence.

I've increasingly heard about companies who contact private landlords looking to sign a long lease and rent out to the council.. some returns being shown look good. Business everywhere...
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 12:03am On Feb 09
jedisco:
They teach maths but are keen on avoiding secondary school kids for obvious reasons. A part-time teaching assistant role is being sought but hard to combine with a care role. They have registered with agencies but available jobs are sporadic and last minute. Ultimately, the aim is to get some UK teaching experience which opens up the door to opportunities out there.

Just like an insurance, I agree that the best time to start looking for alternatives is when one doesn't need it. I started looking 2yrs ago when UK was the cushy option and today, I have no regrets.
Very true, agencies jobs are sporadic and last minute and with the main care job that will be difficult to manage unless if the person is the dependent, what helped my wife then was that she was on student visa so getting on those agencies jobs were easier without visa restrictions in fact she ended up with a college (like a polytechnic) as a senior learning assistant for over a year until she got a job as a senior nursery practitioner on a skilled worker visa. The secondary schools unfortunately are the easier jobs to get because that’s where the shortages are especially for maths teachers and other sciences. If they are not too fixated on the uk they should attempt getting teaching licenses in Australia and Canada even if they feel they don’t need it now, it may come in handy tomorrow. They can even get into the express entry pool for Canada and just stay in there for whenever there is a draw for education category. Their current visa status may not make things easier unless they try another option to get the license for higher education to enable them teach in colleges and polytechnics as the students there are more mature and less stress from my wife’s experience.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 12:13am On Feb 09
jedisco:
Fair enough. It's always pros and cons. There are always options out there.

It all comes in waves. After a while, when shortages start biting, they'd be clapping for care workers.
The funny thing with such moves is that it may have the untoward effect of chasing away the 'best and brightest' which they keep singing about attracting. The vibrant shooters with the means to would get the UK experience and head over to Aus, Cana or even the U.S. Those with little options will stick around. Down the line, when data comes thru about this 'japa 2.0', the new song would be on how to retain the best and brightest.
It’s all propaganda they aren’t interested in any attracting any best, take a look at the HPI visa or whatever they call it you say those who attend the first 50 universities in the world should apply and then you give them a two year visa they can’t even extend 😂 what kind of joke is that. I think it’s just business about the numbers to increase revenue and when they are tired they start shouting about increase in net migration. Who will attend Harvard and come and waste such kind of time here. You Dey whine?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m):
Goke7:
Very true, agencies jobs are sporadic and last minute and with the main care job that will be difficult to manage unless if the person is the dependent, what helped my wife then was that she was on student visa so getting on those agencies jobs were easier without visa restrictions in fact she ended up with a college (like a polytechnic) as a senior learning assistant for over a year until she got a job as a senior nursery practitioner on a skilled worker visa. The secondary schools unfortunately are the easier jobs to get because that’s where the shortages are especially for maths teachers and other sciences. If they are not too fixated on the uk they should attempt getting teaching licenses in Australia and Canada even if they feel they don’t need it now, it may come in handy tomorrow. They can even get into the express entry pool for Canada and just stay in there for whenever there is a draw for education category. Their current visa status may not make things easier unless they try another option to get the license for higher education to enable them teach in colleges and polytechnics as the students there are more mature and less stress from my wife’s experience.
Good points. I'd raise these with them.

Last we spoke, they said the cost of 9ja transcript (abt 200k) has prevented them from applying for Cana express entry. I said no wahala.
Unfortunately, they are not keen and riding the care route. I only hope sh*t doesn't hit the fan. Cos if it does, na last minute kitikata
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by WanderingChild: 5:32am On Feb 09
Just some random extreme thoughts.

I can safely assume that if the UK government is able to legislate to increase the timeline for earned settlement in order to throttle the number of qualifying immigrants, then the following:
1. Settlement timelines can be retroactively changed
2. Different migrant categories deserve different timelines based on "contribution"
3. Settlement doesn't guarantee full social rights (being noises around)
4. This can all be done without parliamentary debate (Immigration Rules changes)

having been established, the next plan from the UK government will be to focus on "state pensions reforms". The arguments will be an exact replica - the number of immigrants who will qualify for state pensions by say 2052 will bankrupt the state as we would have more persons on pension than working. They would talk about the need to keep people working longer especially immigrants and how citizenship is not a right but a privilege (please always look out for this statement as its prevalence in HO correspondence is a psyops to numb the fact that it is your right to acquire British Citizenship if you have met the time requirements and good character aspect - you CANNOT be denied citizenshipif you apply having met all requirements).

The "reforms" will focus on:
1. Making state pension a benefit. They will find ways to argue that NI contributions today are immaterial to the benefits that payers derive from living and working in the UK (I can evidence this as a fact that our NI and taxes are far lesser than the value we get from living and working in the UK. The justification of this will rely on "intangible" benefits (peace, prestige, exposure, community, access, name and location brand, etc.) whose quantification is subjective like Elon Musk's wealth). Government already argues visa fees reflect "value" of UK access. Remember that there are 3 types of lies - lies, damned lies and statistics.
2. Making the minimum qualification to enjoy state pension outside period of contribution to be having a British citizenship.
3. Making this forward looking rather than retroactive (to avoid clashes with ECHR). The goal will be to make getting citizenship more laborious (Kemi's 15 years comes into play) after ILR.

Remember, the government will by then (through current reforms) have:
1. Established retroactivity is acceptable
2. Created precedent for differential treatment
3. Signaled openness to restricting ILR rights
4. Done this with minimal opposition

As you plan, please plan wisely. The immigrant is about to be properly set in a visual rat race. We are about to launch the creation of a generation or two of frustrated immigrants with outcomes far worse than during the slave trade era. The UK lacks any means of wealth creation (growth) beyond exploitation and extraction from workers. This is why they will continue to skew policies to bait and trap workers for as long as possible.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 7:45am On Feb 09
@ WanderingChild, basis your last writeup, what I understand is that it wouldn't be a bad idea to opt out of work place pension schemes?

What do you think about the above HustlaOfLagos?

Why keep paying pension when you might not access it. Once that legislation is finalised, I'm opting out of mine. smiley

Strategy for strategy: just the kind of ideas that we need rather than moaning about petitions and what nots. cheesy
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch:
Raalsalghul:
@ WanderingChild, basis your last writeup, what I understand is that it wouldn't be a bad idea to opt out of work place pension schemes?

What do you think about the above HustlaOfLagos?

Why keep paying pension when you might not access it. Once that legislation is finalised, I'm opting out of mine. smiley

Strategy for strategy: just the kind of ideas that we need rather than moaning about petitions and what nots. cheesy
This is a terrible idea. It’s not one of those cases where it depends on your circumstances bla bla bla. There are no circumstances in which it is a good thing except maybe for edge cases such as someone planning to do something and run away, sure that they’ll never have anything to do with the UK system again.

You won’t even save as much as you think you would, because what goes into your pension now is pre-tax meaning if you opt out tax will be taken first and you’ll get a smaller chunk of it added to your take-home. Also, you’ll lose your employer’s contributions and tax relief which is free money. You’ll basically be robbing your future self. At the end of the day what will be added to your take-home will likely be around half what you would otherwise get added to your pension (assuming the statutory minimum Employee 5% + Employer 3%).

The only person you’ll be punishing with this strategy is yourself. HMRC and your employer will both be very happy.

I suggest tou use ChatGPT to model this so you can see the calculations clearly.

Also, you will be able to access your pension. It may be complicated in NG because there’s no recognized provider yet but by the time you’re at the age to access it I’m pretty sure it’ll be more straightforward because of the sheer number of people affected and the fact that the financial services industry in NG is advancing rapidly.

And what if after everything things work out and you decide to stay in the UK however long that takes? You’ll have missed out on crucial years of contributions and the attendant compounding which will be especially problematic because the compounding in the earlier years are the ones that have the largest impact.

Lastly, you probably think you will invest it yourself to access when you retire but where? If it’s not locked away the statistics are clear that you’re likely to access it at some point due to the vagaries of life. So where will you find a self-invested pension or similar product that you can be as confident that it will be there for you to access after decades when you come to retire? NG? For all the issues there’s a reason why the City is one of the financial nerve-centers of the world.

If anything the strategy should be to save and invest more so you have more flexibility - I’m fully aware that’s easier said than done especially with potentially more years of IHS and fees to pay but it is what it is.

Carry your eyes away from your pension and try to put more money in an ISA so you can save on tax, and squirrel away as much as possible so whether you’re going home, staying here or moving elsewhere you’ll have some more funds to work with.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 9:20am On Feb 09
Raalsalghul:
@ WanderingChild, basis your last writeup, what I understand is that it wouldn't be a bad idea to opt out of work place pension schemes?

What do you think about the above HustlaOfLagos?

Why keep paying pension when you might not access it. Once that legislation is finalised, I'm opting out of mine. smiley

Strategy for strategy: just the kind of ideas that we need rather than moaning about petitions and what nots. cheesy
I'll align with Goodenoch on this.
Don't forgo pension contributions if you don't really need the money now. Regarding future access, I also agree with what he's said about drawdowns very likely being possible anywhere you ultimately end up.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 10:31am On Feb 09
Zahra29:
Unfortunately it's extremely difficult to regularise when one falls out of status. Even if she had a genuine marriage, Home Office would tell her to go back to her home country to make a spouse application unless it is virtually impossible to do so e.g. her home country is Gaza. They've also recently tightened the rules so that if she went back to apply, she would be subject to a re-entry ban for 1 year or more.

The only visa statuses she could change to in- country is the parent of a British or settled child, or under private life after she's lived in the UK continuously for 20 years. Both visas would put her on a 10 year route to settlement (with visa renewals every 2.5 years).

The government is now looking to add a penalty to increase this settlement route to up to 30 years (part of the earned settlement consultation) - which means that it could take her 50 years to settle from when she arrived in the UK. Hopefully these proposals are abandoned as it's crazily insane.

Wherever possible, overstaying should never be an option. It's not easy.
E no go better for the likes of tinubu Akpabio oshiomole et al. If naija good wetin person de find come this wet lonely country.

Zahra what are the conditions for switching from one marriage to another within the Uk. Asking for a friend in dare need whose oyinbo wife said she wants out.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 10:52am On Feb 09
Raalsalghul:
@ WanderingChild, basis your last writeup, what I understand is that it wouldn't be a bad idea to opt out of work place pension schemes?

What do you think about the above HustlaOfLagos?

Why keep paying pension when you might not access it. Once that legislation is finalised, I'm opting out of mine. smiley

Strategy for strategy: just the kind of ideas that we need rather than moaning about petitions and what nots. cheesy
I honestly dont know much about pensions but I think you should only take it if you do not want to stay here long term

Also, he is just postulating and nothing like that has been said yet to the best of my knowledge
smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 10:53am On Feb 09
lavida001:
E no go better for the likes of tinubu Akpabio oshiomole et al. If naija good wetin person de find come this wet lonely country.

Zahra what are the conditions for switching from one marriage to another within the Uk. Asking for a friend in dare need whose oyinbo wife said she wants out.
shocked

Want out ke? E must want in o grin - For this kain immigration palava

Also, curses no dey work. Look at the likes of Wike for example
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Controlv: 3:31pm On Feb 09
Raalsalghul:
@ WanderingChild, basis your last writeup, what I understand is that it wouldn't be a bad idea to opt out of work place pension schemes?

What do you think about the above HustlaOfLagos?

Why keep paying pension when you might not access it. Once that legislation is finalised, I'm opting out of mine. smiley

Strategy for strategy: just the kind of ideas that we need rather than moaning about petitions and what nots. cheesy
I think wanderingchild is referring to the State Pension, which is different from a workplace pension. I’m not sure anyone can opt out of paying National Insurance (which is a qualifying requirement for the State Pension), but opting out of a workplace pension isn’t always the best choice, as others have mentioned.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 6:45pm On Feb 09
HustlaOfLagos:
shocked

Want out ke? E must want in o grin - For this kain immigration palava

Also, curses no dey work. Look at the likes of Wike for example
Omo naija matter just tire me. Not a single thing is working. I don give up for a better Nigeria. grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AKALAMAGBO: 10:43pm On Feb 09
lavida001:
Omo naija matter just tire me. Not a single thing is working. I don give up for a better Nigeria. grin
Give up keh Lavida cheesy grin

No give up oo, we must work together to invest back home and lift our country 🤭🤭🤭
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:59am On Feb 10
lavida001:
Omo naija matter just tire me. Not a single thing is working. I don give up for a better Nigeria. grin
You were never interested in a better Nigeria in the first place 😂 you just dey whine us here all this while. Thanks for the clarity finally
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:46am On Feb 10
Goke7:
You were never interested in a better Nigeria in the first place 😂 you just dey whine us here all this while. Thanks for the clarity finally
Hope still de if obi win 🥇
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 10:12am On Feb 10
lavida001:
Hope still de if obi win 🥇
By sitting down here in the uk abi
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Santa2: 5:19pm On Feb 11
Goke7:
By sitting down here in the uk abi
@Goke7 Oga come and cut GTV anointing for me, so that I can use it for EB-1. grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 7:49pm On Feb 11
Santa2:
@Goke7 Oga come and cut GTV anointing for me, so that I can use it for EB-1. grin
Gunning for this via the tech route? tongue
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 7:54pm On Feb 11
WanderingChild:
Just some random extreme thoughts.

I can safely assume that if the UK government is able to legislate to increase the timeline for earned settlement in order to throttle the number of qualifying immigrants, then the following:
1. Settlement timelines can be retroactively changed
2. Different migrant categories deserve different timelines based on "contribution"
3. Settlement doesn't guarantee full social rights (being noises around)
4. This can all be done without parliamentary debate (Immigration Rules changes)

having been established, the next plan from the UK government will be to focus on "state pensions reforms". The arguments will be an exact replica - the number of immigrants who will qualify for state pensions by say 2052 will bankrupt the state as we would have more persons on pension than working. They would talk about the need to keep people working longer especially immigrants and how citizenship is not a right but a privilege (please always look out for this statement as its prevalence in HO correspondence is a psyops to numb the fact that it is your right to acquire British Citizenship if you have met the time requirements and good character aspect - you CANNOT be denied citizenshipif you apply having met all requirements).

The "reforms" will focus on:
1. Making state pension a benefit. They will find ways to argue that NI contributions today are immaterial to the benefits that payers derive from living and working in the UK (I can evidence this as a fact that our NI and taxes are far lesser than the value we get from living and working in the UK. The justification of this will rely on "intangible" benefits (peace, prestige, exposure, community, access, name and location brand, etc.) whose quantification is subjective like Elon Musk's wealth). Government already argues visa fees reflect "value" of UK access. Remember that there are 3 types of lies - lies, damned lies and statistics.
2. Making the minimum qualification to enjoy state pension outside period of contribution to be having a British citizenship.
3. Making this forward looking rather than retroactive (to avoid clashes with ECHR). The goal will be to make getting citizenship more laborious (Kemi's 15 years comes into play) after ILR.

Remember, the government will by then (through current reforms) have:
1. Established retroactivity is acceptable
2. Created precedent for differential treatment
3. Signaled openness to restricting ILR rights
4. Done this with minimal opposition

As you plan, please plan wisely. The immigrant is about to be properly set in a visual rat race. We are about to launch the creation of a generation or two of frustrated immigrants with outcomes far worse than during the slave trade era. The UK lacks any means of wealth creation (growth) beyond exploitation and extraction from workers. This is why they will continue to skew policies to bait and trap workers for as long as possible.
Nice writeup. What is your advice about contributory state pension? Is it advisable to opt out now? Just a few years in
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Adebayofca: 8:24pm On Feb 11
jedisco:
Just before Christmas, Essex University announced that it would close its Southend campus this summer due to a big fall in international students, who pay much higher fees. The move will affect 800 students, as well as staff, but it will also have a huge impact on a city that has come to depend on the university in many ways.

I thought most universities have stabilised. Another campus which includes a nursing school closes.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/04/essex-university-southend-campus-closure-seaside-deprivation
It seems the pressure is hitting primary academies too. I was reading a newsletter from one of the education trusts today, and for the second edition in a row they highlighted growing financial challenges caused by falling enrolment. National enrollment have dropped by 2% since it peaked 2018/19 and are predicted to fall another 4% over the next five years due to declining birth rates.

This particular trust has c650 fewer pupils this year, with further declines forecast for the next academic year, which of course means reduced income. This is not peculiar to the Trust, according to the newsletter . It does make one wonder what the numbers would look like without the children of recent migrants, who make up a good share of dependants 🤔

In the end, it is clear that immigration is driven by economic need, just as you’ve always argued. But those who deliberately opened the borders will never admit it, because doing so would put their jobs at risk.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 9:34pm On Feb 11
ehizario2012:
Nice writeup. What is your advice about contributory state pension? Is it advisable to opt out now? Just a few years in
I can see it's been discussed already. Tx
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:46pm On Feb 11
Santa2:
@Goke7 Oga come and cut GTV anointing for me, so that I can use it for EB-1. grin
For where folks like Hustla Dey, 😂 na learner I be o!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 9:56pm On Feb 11
Goke7:
For where folks like Hustla Dey, 😂 na learner I be o!
shocked

Show us way abeg

I want to touch the helm of your garment grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 10:16pm On Feb 11
HustlaOfLagos:
shocked

Show us way abeg

I want to touch the helm of your garment grin
Are you ready sow a seed offering? 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 10:16pm On Feb 11
And the blame continues 😂 wetin musa no go see again for gate!

https://x.com/skynews/status/2021639035123323249?s=46&t=tk-1hGRx-HBpOmsos8uccA
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Memorychip: 10:21pm On Feb 11
ehizario2012:
Nice writeup. What is your advice about contributory state pension? Is it advisable to opt out now? Just a few years in
I think state pension is underpinned by NI. You cant opt out.

Work place is possible, but you lose about 25% to tax relief plus the employer contibution which starts at 75% of your contribution to 100% if your employer matches pension as an additional incentive.

So you lose at a minimum 100% potential contribution "gain" but get your cash immediately and avoid the risk of potentially losing it here if you leave.

With the way things are here, its valid to consider this action, but it is a fairly costly one which is why many are reluctant to go through with it.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Memorychip: 10:49pm On Feb 11
Goke7:
And the blame continues 😂 wetin musa no go see again for gate!

https://x.com/skynews/status/2021639035123323249?s=46&t=tk-1hGRx-HBpOmsos8uccA[/quote]The UK is almost certainly heading towards its Trumpian era. Anyone with a visa would be wise to take a brace position and leave the door back home open.

Be it as it may, the UK and most of the West is largely a fading system and immigrants are not to blame for its fading glory.

I am convinced in a decade or two at most Africa will turn a corner and we will have people from Europe looking to settle in Africa to escape life in Europe much as they are already starting to flock to Asia and the Middle East for a better live themselves.

We are not to blame for the West's ageing population, we are not to blame for its dying industrial base, we are not to blame for citizens who chose to live on benefits rather than work, we are not to blame for its slowing growth rate, we are not to blame for its people increasing disillusioned with its economic decline.

We largely do the thankless work that many dont want to do because of its low pay or demanding hours without any recourse to funds.

Yet the politicians and those with influence constantly drum to the public that we are vagrants here to live on benefits when in reality we pay taxes for which we are barred from its direct benefit, we pay health surcharges many of us do not use, they increase visa fees annually at ridiculous rates far beyond inflation and yet we do not complain. Many of us struggle to switch jobs or employers because of various hurdles and the rhetoric the politicians and homeoffice have been feeding into the system, yet we get blamed for not showing enough productivity and economic mobility...utter bullshit!

They shoot themselves in the foot by limiting our potential to do more for them than we currently do. Many of us had plans to invest in the real estate business here or invest in the real sector, but have been forced to put brakes to everything, even home improvements we no longer do anything expensive. Not allowed to run a business on a SWV, struggle to switich to higher paying roles.

The focus now is to do the best you can with what opportunity we reach here while mantaining the flexibility to leave and move whatever we have accumulated here in an orderly manner if the system becomes too toxic.

As someone said, the british passport is not one to heaven.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:32pm On Feb 11
Memorychip:
The UK is almost certainly heading towards its Trumpian era. Anyone with a visa would be wise to take a brace position and leave the door back home open.

Be it as it may, the UK and most of the West is largely a fading system and immigrants are not to blame for its fading glory.

I am convinced in a decade or two at most Africa will turn a corner and we will have people from Europe looking to settle in Africa to escape life in Europe much as they are already starting to flock to Asia and the Middle East for a better live themselves.

We are not to blame for the West's ageing population, we are not to blame for its dying industrial base, we are not to blame for citizens who chose to live on benefits rather than work, we are not to blame for its slowing growth rate, we are not to blame for its people increasing disillusioned with its economic decline.

We largely do the thankless work that many dont want to do because of its low pay or demanding hours without any recourse to funds.

Yet the politicians and those with influence constantly drum to the public that we are vagrants here to live on benefits when in reality we pay taxes for which we are barred from its direct benefit, we pay health surcharges many of us do not use, they increase visa fees annually at ridiculous rates far beyond inflation and yet we do not complain. Many of us struggle to switch jobs or employers because of various hurdles and the rhetoric the politicians and homeoffice have been feeding into the system, yet we get blamed for not showing enough productivity and economic mobility...utter bullshit!

They shoot themselves in the foot by limiting our potential to do more for them than we currently do. Many of us had plans to invest in the real estate business here or invest in the real sector, but have been forced to put brakes to everything, even home improvements we no longer do anything expensive. Not allowed to run a business on a SWV, struggle to switich to higher paying roles.

The focus now is to do the best you can with what opportunity we reach here while mantaining the flexibility to leave and move whatever we have accumulated here in an orderly manner if the system becomes too toxic.

As someone said, the british passport is not one to heaven.
They left the EU thinking they were larger than life but alas they can’t even think for themselves but to blame immigrants who bring in so much resources to live here for all their woes and pains. The billionaire himself talking gibberish lives in Monaco to escape the harsh uk tax climate and he owns part of man united club who is nothing without immigrant players. Phew!

Of course they will always get support and sympathy from those as usual who see nothing wrong in what he’s saying. Am sure any prime minister that loses his job now will be blamed on immigrants.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 11:45pm On Feb 11
Goke7:
And the blame continues 😂 wetin musa no go see again for gate!

https://x.com/skynews/status/2021639035123323249?s=46&t=tk-1hGRx-HBpOmsos8uccA[/quote]Imagine an elite talking like this, what do you expect from the common man then? grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HustlaOfLagos: 12:46am On Feb 12
Goke7:
Are you ready sow a seed offering? 😂
Seed and gold I have not

embarassed grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Gerrard59(m): 3:49am On Feb 12
Raalsalghul:
Imagine an elite talking like this, what do you expect from the common man then? grin
I am a bit shocked that an elite could be spitting such words. Well, nothing surprises anymore. Humans are the same everywhere. But 9m people on benefits is unsustainable for any economy. Those people have to work, one way or the other.
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