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The Igbos referred to in the story have no relationship with IBO of the East. Igbo started using the term during the Civil war. Most words in Yoruba did not start with letter I but u e.g Ile was ule, Ife was ufe Igbo was ugbo ,Ilesha was Ulesha etc. So the Igbo in question is Ugbo. The name of the king is Olugbo. The Olugbo was the husband of Moremi. They are currently in Ondo state, Ilaje LGA, Igbokoda. Their biological father is Oramfe. They are related to Obatala. The Ilajes are descendants of Osangangan Obamakin, son of Oramfe while some are descendants of Obatala, Orunmila, Ompetu of Iddo ,Ile ife etc. The Ilaje speak the same language, they are the Aborigines of Ile Ife. Oduduwa met them in Ile Ife.. Having said this, when Ugbo emigrated Ile Ife, not all of them got to their present location of Ode Ugbo. Some moved to different directions and founded their kingdoms. It is possible the Olukunmi of Delta state is one of them.

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This is what the Obi of Onitsha was explaining.

Iam Ugbo ,the aboriginal people of ile ife. We are not the same as Igbo of Eastern Nigeria who claimed to have originated from Israel.

The Ugbo of Ile ife are now known as Ilaje,Ijebu, Itsekiri, olukunmi, and Ikale. After migration from ife, they broke up into smaller tribes but their root remains Ugbo in Ondo State where Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom reside. It was from this Ugbo they dispersed to their present locations respectively and started bearing different names. For example, the first ijebu king is Lenuwa of Ode omi in Ogun waterside. Then we have Liken of Iwopin, ogun waterside Local Government . And later, we have Awujale of Ijebu ode. These are first and original ijebu people. Others ijebu communities and groups came to join them due to migration or wars.

Itsekiri are cousins to Ilaje and ijebu while ikale are offshoot of Olugbo of Ugbo-Ilaje. The seventh Olugbo , Oba Olugbo Ameto gave birth to Ikale while some of them claim origin from Benin and few from Ile ife.

Yoruba had always been yoruba right from the beginning though they had previous name they beared before answering the name ,yoruba . These names are Anago, Olukunmi and Omokaro-ojiire . The people oduduwa met in ile ife are yoruba! It was Oduduwa himself who was not yoruba but was welcomed into yoruba land, tradition and culture. He spent sixteen years at oba palace in Ile ero where he learned about Yoruba language and culture.

Aboriginal people of Ile ife defeated Oduduwa after ruling ife for some years and chased his children away from ile ife! If not, how come Osangangan Obamakin became Ooni immediately After Oduduwa 's death? Are you aware that Obamakin son, Olbalufon Ogbogbodirin became Ooni of ile ife immediately after his father? And, his own son Obalufon Alayemore became Ooni of ife after his father, Ogbogbodinrin's death? Where was Oduduwa children and his people during this centuries years of ruling?

Do you know as many Nigerian politicians are claiming to be Obafemi Awolowo's sons and daughters while they are not his biological children is also the same way many Yoruba are claiming Oduduwa? Why?
1 Because they see Oduduwa as father figure because of his popularity.
2. Because they have been manipulated by the Yoruba Historians who told them Oduduwa descended from heaven in chain and found ife while making their real fathers look like victims and scapegoats
3. Because they are lazy to find out the truth about their source and so believe whatever Historians tell them even with conflicting write ups.

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[b]After the dispersal, the aborigines, the Igbo, became difficult, and constituted a serious threat to the survival of Ife. Thought to be survivors of the old occupants of the land before the arrival of Oduduwa, these people now turned themselves into marauders. They would come to town in costumes made of raffia with terrible and fearsome appearances, and the Ife people would flee. Then the Igbo would burn down houses and loot the markets. Then came Moremi on the scene - like Deborah of the Old Testament. When no man could dare the Igbos, Moremi asked the Esinminrin river for help and promised to give offerings if she could save her people. The orisa told her to allow herself to be captured and to understudy the Igbo people. She did, and discovered that these were not spirits; only people with raffia for dress. She escaped, and taught her people the trick. The next time that Igbo people came to sack the town, the townspeople set fire on their raffia costumes, and they were roundly defeated. Moremi then had to go back to Esinminrin to thank the gods. Every offering she offered was refused. On divination, she was told that she had to give Oluorogbo, her only son. She did. The lesson of Moremi is the lesson of patriotism and selflessness. The reward may not be reaped in one’s life time. Moremi passed on and became a member of the Yoruba pantheon . The Edi festival celebrates the defeat of the Igbo and the sacrifice of Oluorogbo till today.[/b]

Bro, you are more magnanimous than the writers of that epic. If it were to be "Yoruba" that is given in the post in place of "Igbo", they will tear that write-up into shreds and glorify the hate, but in spite of this, you still control your temper till now. Well I am not from Ile-Ife, but the post is written with today "Igbo" in mind, they could not be writing about the Igbo in Ile Ife traditions this way. The writer may be unaware that the Igbo in Ife tradition is the same as Igbo in Ile Ife today, hence the sensationalizing. why must it end the post? O jo gate kojo gate...


But i think the poster of the article said the Igbos in the Ife Epic is unrelated to the present Ibo people. What do you think?

Point of correction it's ugbo not ibo. That's why there is a rift btw the olugbo of ugbo land and Ife. You people shouldn't twist history. Moremi married the oba of ugbo and after knowing thier secret she ram back to ife with her son, that's why ugbo people hates moremi for her betrayal. You will see moremi statue in ugboland.

Sojiokungbure:
Iam Ugbo ,the aboriginal people of ile ife. We are not the same as Igbo of Eastern Nigeria who claimed to have originated from Israel.

The Ugbo of Ile ife are now known as Ilaje,Ijebu, Itsekiri, olukunmi, and Ikale. After migration from ife, they broke up into smaller tribes but their root remains Ugbo in Ondo State where Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom reside. It was from this Ugbo they dispersed to their present locations respectively and started bearing different names. For example, the first ijebu king is Lenuwa of Ode omi in Ogun waterside. Then we have Liken of Iwopin, ogun waterside Local Government . And later, we have Awujale of Ijebu ode. These are first and original ijebu people. Others ijebu communities and groups came to join them due to migration or wars.

Itsekiri are cousins to Ilaje and ijebu while ikale are offshoot of Olugbo of Ugbo-Ilaje. The seventh Olugbo , Oba Olugbo Ameto gave birth to Ikale while some of them claim origin from Benin and few from Ile ife.

Yoruba had always been yoruba right from the beginning though they had previous name they beared before answering the name ,yoruba . These names are Anago, Olukunmi and Omokaro-ojiire . The people oduduwa met in ile ife are yoruba! It was Oduduwa himself who was not yoruba but was welcomed into yoruba land, tradition and culture. He spent sixteen years at oba palace in Ile ero where he learned about Yoruba language and culture.

Aboriginal people of Ile ife defeated Oduduwa after ruling ife for some years and chased his children away from ile ife! If not, how come Osangangan Obamakin became Ooni immediately After Oduduwa 's death? Are you aware that Obamakin son, Olbalufon Ogbogbodirin became Ooni of ile ife immediately after his father? And, his own son Obalufon Alayemore became Ooni of ife after his father, Ogbogbodinrin's death? Where was Oduduwa children and his people during this centuries years of ruling?

Do you know as many Nigerian politicians are claiming to be Obafemi Awolowo's sons and daughters while they are not his biological children is also the same way many Yoruba are claiming Oduduwa? Why?
1 Because they see Oduduwa as father figure because of his popularity.
2. Because they have been manipulated by the Yoruba Historians who told them Oduduwa descended from heaven in chain and found ife while making their real fathers look like victims and scapegoats
3. Because they are lazy to find out the truth about their source and so believe whatever Historians tell them even with conflicting write ups.

Please if you want to claim yourself as Yoruba, do so. You don't need to claim us Itsekiris.

Sojiokungbure:
Iam Ugbo ,the aboriginal people of ile ife. We are not the same as Igbo of Eastern Nigeria who claimed to have originated from Israel.

The Ugbo of Ile ife are now known as Ilaje,Ijebu, Itsekiri, olukunmi, and Ikale. After migration from ife, they broke up into smaller tribes but their root remains Ugbo in Ondo State where Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom reside. It was from this Ugbo they dispersed to their present locations respectively and started bearing different names. For example, the first ijebu king is Lenuwa of Ode omi in Ogun waterside. Then we have Liken of Iwopin, ogun waterside Local Government . And later, we have Awujale of Ijebu ode. These are first and original ijebu people. Others ijebu communities and groups came to join them due to migration or wars.

Itsekiri are cousins to Ilaje and ijebu while ikale are offshoot of Olugbo of Ugbo-Ilaje. The seventh Olugbo , Oba Olugbo Ameto gave birth to Ikale while some of them claim origin from Benin and few from Ile ife.

Yoruba had always been yoruba right from the beginning though they had previous name they beared before answering the name ,yoruba . These names are Anago, Olukunmi and Omokaro-ojiire . The people oduduwa met in ile ife are yoruba! It was Oduduwa himself who was not yoruba but was welcomed into yoruba land, tradition and culture. He spent sixteen years at oba palace in Ile ero where he learned about Yoruba language and culture.

Aboriginal people of Ile ife defeated Oduduwa after ruling ife for some years and chased his children away from ile ife! If not, how come Osangangan Obamakin became Ooni immediately After Oduduwa 's death? Are you aware that Obamakin son, Olbalufon Ogbogbodirin became Ooni of ile ife immediately after his father? And, his own son Obalufon Alayemore became Ooni of ife after his father, Ogbogbodinrin's death? Where was Oduduwa children and his people during this centuries years of ruling?

Do you know as many Nigerian politicians are claiming to be Obafemi Awolowo's sons and daughters while they are not his biological children is also the same way many Yoruba are claiming Oduduwa? Why?
1 Because they see Oduduwa as father figure because of his popularity.
2. Because they have been manipulated by the Yoruba Historians who told them Oduduwa descended from heaven in chain and found ife while making their real fathers look like victims and scapegoats
3. Because they are lazy to find out the truth about their source and so believe whatever Historians tell them even with conflicting write ups.

Deep perspectives and insights. According to Ufe (Ife) traditions, Oduduwa came from the hilly community of Oke Ora in Osun State (just 8 miles away from modern Ile Ife).