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BARAJ92:
The elite manager can come in and failed. People should learn that football is not rocket science

Well, the chances of failure is slim with an elite manager. Nobody is saying it is guaranteed that an elite manager will always deliver.

CapitalCee:
Only Flick and Enrique that I will take over Carrick. Coaching Man Utd has a lot things to consider. You need to understand the culture and expectation.

I have always liked Nagelsmann, so personally i would not mind him as well. Tuchel i am not so sure about.

The main thing is that they have all managed at big clubs where the expectations are huge. They also by and large play good football (to a lesser extent with Tuchel) and are decent tacticians. None is perfect but they are the only 4 i would consider over Carrick if he continues to win points at this rate and the team plays well.

odizeey:
They are all in the same bracket, to me, when it comes to understanding the culture.

What I just like about them is they are winners. Simple.
Come and win for me. Leave culture

He makes a good point. It is not really about Man United culture but about the expectations and culture in any big club. The pressure and change in expectations often drowns people who are not used to it. Look at Frank at Spurs and the way he quickly unraveled just from the step up from Brentford to ordinary Spurs.

I do not want any of these managers who are overperforming at small clubs. Most of them can't handle the step up. There are many variables to succeeding at a club like Manchester United. Lets eliminate the variable of "adapting to big club expectations and culture".

afrodoc2:
He makes a good point. It is not really about Man United culture but about the expectations and culture in any big club. The pressure and change in expectations often drowns people who are not used to it. Look at Frank at Spurs and the way he quickly unraveled just from the step up from Brentford to ordinary Spurs.

I do not want any of these managers who are overperforming at small clubs. Most of them can't handle the step up. There are many variables to succeeding at a club like Manchester United. Lets eliminate the variable of "adapting to big club expectations and culture".

That's what I am saying also. Flick and Enrique are big name coaches who have the track record of winning.

Bruno man, where would we be without him? Make them secure am with better lifetime contract, if he dn too old, he'll become player/manager..

Hopefully our forwards just don't let him down this season..Five more assists for him and agenda go see agenda run..

CrystalTiger:
Bruno man, where would we be without him? Make them secure am with better lifetime contract, if he dn too old, he'll become player/manager..

Hopefully our forwards just don't let him down this season..Five more assists for him and agenda go see agenda run..

Remove set pieces and drop numbers from open play. Fraudnandes is a mid footballer.

CrystalTiger:
Bruno man, where would we be without him? Make them secure am with better lifetime contract, if he dn too old, he'll become player/manager..

Hopefully our forwards just don't let him down this season..Five more assists for him and agenda go see agenda run..

This should be an extra motivation for us to keep on winning

Trevor012:
Remove set pieces and drop numbers from open play. Fraudnandes is a mid footballer.

Which one be set piece again?

See person wey dey yab me say I dey support Amorim.

odizeey:
Which one be set piece again?

See person wey dey yab me say I dey support Amorim.

How you go know wetin be set pieces before.

CrystalTiger:
Bruno man, where would we be without him? Make them secure am with better lifetime contract, if he dn too old, he'll become player/manager..

Hopefully our forwards just don't let him down this season..Five more assists for him and agenda go see agenda run..

There's no agenda bro, without you winning trophies.

CrystalTiger:
Bruno man, where would we be without him? Make them secure am with better lifetime contract, if he dn too old, he'll become player/manager..

Hopefully our forwards just don't let him down this season..Five more assists for him and agenda go see agenda run..

Uncomfortable conversations will be had and many legends will have to come outside....

Trevor012:
How you go know wetin be set pieces before.

Thank God say Penalty no dey the set piece. Let God be God.

CrystalTiger:
Bruno man, where would we be without him? Make them secure am with better lifetime contract, if he dn too old, he'll become player/manager..

Hopefully our forwards just don't let him down this season..Five more assists for him and agenda go see agenda run..

insane stats lol.
took me a while.
Wirtz not done as badly as I thought this season.

If you're in this group, please line up with your flower in your hand that you brought for AMORIM


He's the reason for the season

odizeey:
Those ones understand the culture?

They are World class.

afrodoc2:
He makes a good point. It is not really about Man United culture but about the expectations and culture in any big club. The pressure and change in expectations often drowns people who are not used to it. Look at Frank at Spurs and the way he quickly unraveled just from the step up from Brentford to ordinary Spurs.

I do not want any of these managers who are overperforming at small clubs. Most of them can't handle the step up. There are many variables to succeeding at a club like Manchester United. Lets eliminate the variable of "adapting to big club expectations and culture".

Excellent.
All these hipsters fancy name coaches are almost guaranteed to fail at man united. Only World class coaches can succeed at Man utd or Former players who are young and just decent like Ole or Carrick. Madrid and Barca always do this Former young players or outright world class. Xavi, Arbeloa, Alonso, Zidane, Solari, Guardiola and Enrique. Or Long term Assistants at the club like the late former Barca coach. The trajectory is very clear now so many traditional clubs are following this method now. Look at inter with Chivu, Milan brought back Pioli, Juve have Spalleti, Napoli has Conte.

Trevor012:
Remove set pieces and drop numbers from open play. Fraudnandes is a mid footballer.

This man are you still beefing Bruno? How many years now? Even me thats a Bruno stan lost patience with him, but now realised i misjudged him because Amorim was playing him out of position, but man You still hate him since. Nawao

CapitalCee:
They are World class.

That's the main point.

CapitalCee:
Excellent.
All these hipsters fancy name coaches are almost guaranteed to fail at man united. Only World class coaches can succeed at Man utd or Former players who are young and just decent like Ole or Carrick. Madrid and Barca always do this Former young players or outright world class. Xavi, Arbeloa, Alonso, Zidane, Solari, Guardiola and Enrique. Or Long term Assistants at the club like the late former Barca coach. The trajectory is very clear now so many traditional clubs are following this method now. Look at inter with Chivu, Milan brought back Pioli, Juve have Spalleti, Napoli has Conte.

This is exactly my thought, Many coach that are consider world class has failed in Man Utd, There is no coach coming in that guarantees success.

Look at Arsenal for example, they failed and were constantly out of champions league with a coach consider to be world class after Wenger till they settle for Arteta after missing out on champions league for years.

patrickmuf:
What I mean is that for the job he was brought in to do, he is well on track...Depending on the options we have to replace Carrick, I will decide whether or not to support his continuity on the job...

If we do not get an elite manager, it will be better to stick with Carrick than hire another young inexperienced manager.

Personally he has supposed whatever expectation I have for him in this interim role.

I understand your second paragraph but if we want to be a serious club, we must get an elite experienced manager. Carrick is just not there yet for permanent role. That's my opinion anyways

afrodoc2:
The Ole experience makes one very circumspect about giving him the job but if it's not Luis Enrique, Tuchel, Flick, Nagelsmann it might be best to give Carrick the job provided we easily qualify for the UCL playing good football.

He has a 2-month audition until the end of the season. Play good football and qualify for UCL in style and the club won't be able to reject him for the Glasners or De Zerbis of this world.

I don't want De Zerbi anywhere near this club abeg

Considering the position where Manchester United were before Michael Carrick took over and where the club is right now,it is total disrespect to the man to even consider hiring anyone else for the job just because the person has a fancy foreign sounding name. Hiring a coach because he bears a fancy foreign name and sets up his team to play a complicated and convoluted system of football would be synonymous to cutting the nose to spite ones face and another reciepe for disaster.
United have in Michael Carrick,a manager who has somehow managed in a simple way to get the juggernaut,that is Manchester United working again. The feel good factor is back at Old Trafford once again. The team is playing well,scoring goals and putting points on the board.
It is only just,to give Carrick a chance with his own transfer window,with his own players and see if he can maintain the momentum and take a proper crack at winning the Premier league.
However if on the other hand the board in their wisdom decide to do away with Carrick in the summer and hire any of the foreign chaps,it is their prerogative.

i think the permanent manager question depends on what the objectives are for next season and the next

top 4, qf in cl, a cup
or is it title race, sf in cl, a cup in the next 2-3 seasons

that narrows down the choice
because you either believe carrick can do it with a heavier schedule or he can't
no maybes

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for moi, i have my doubts about this summer's recruitment

and if the board does not ace that, then carrick will unravel

look how long mount and de ligt have been out
look how lethargic this team has played at times when their schedule is so light

if the board goes all out with transfers, i'm fine with giving carrick an extra year or two

but it is likely that they'd bring in a renowned tactician, do an haphazard job on the transfers, and expect an 80 point season, because in their head, if carrick has done so well in the interim then a big name should be going for a treble

-Lord

Goosethetruth:
Considering the position where Manchester United were before Michael Carrick took over and where the club is right now,it is total disrespect to the man to even consider hiring anyone else for the job just because the person has a fancy foreign sounding name. Hiring a coach because he bears a fancy foreign name and sets up his team to play a complicated and convoluted system of football would be synonymous to cutting the nose to spite ones face and another reciepe for disaster.
United have in Michael Carrick,a manager who has somehow managed in a simple way to get the juggernaut,that is Manchester United working again. The feel good factor is back at Old Trafford once again. The team is playing well,scoring goals and putting points on the board.
It is only just,to give Carrick a chance with his own transfer window,with his own players and see if he can maintain the momentum and take a proper crack at winning the Premier league.
However if on the other hand the board in their wisdom decide to do away with Carrick in the summer and hire any of the foreign chaps,it is their prerogative.

This!!!!!!

I don’t know why the club is even considering other managers when Carrick has been so good. All those other managers will come in and start implementing stupid football styles that don't fit the club and its players.

Manchester United and Real Madrid have one thing in common: they don’t need that "beautiful football" style or whatever. Just play the players in their positions and attack! This current United team under Carrick would perform well in the UCL.

If the opponents are too good, sit back and play swift counter-attacks. Madrid are in a mess now because they want to implement some "beautiful" style of play this season, and look where it’s gotten them.

Even against low-block teams, we can see that the team is starting to come good, with Šeško doing his magic.

If Carrick can continue with this performance, give him a one-year contract or something. That one year should serve as a final test or something. Besides it won’t cost the club much.

The biggest mistake Manchester United can make this summer is to get rid of Carrick.
It will be amusing watching the United board sack Carrick and then hire some greasy haired tactician because his name ends with,"eski".

It will only be a matter of time before de javu comes back to haunt INEOS and United have to pay another hefty pay out and then begin the vicious circle of looking for another Carrick to steady the boat.

If it isn't broken,don't try to fix it...

Give Carrick his pre season. Get him the players he wants. Give him a rolling season long contract. Set him a target. Let's see where the team is by the end of a full season.

Seems we are very interested in Tonali. He would be a dream signing but I hope we pay a reasonable amount.

The attack is good enough for Enrique football

Except sesko. I don't think he likes strikers

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But everything except the attack is useless

Except we sign 9+ players he will fail

Caveatemptor:
The biggest mistake Manchester United can make this summer is to get rid of Carrick.
It will be amusing watching the United board sack Carrick and then hire some greasy haired tactician because his name ends with,"eski".

It will only be a matter of time before de javu comes back to haunt INEOS and United have to pay another hefty pay out and then begin the vicious circle of looking for another Carrick to steady the boat.

If it isn't broken,don't try to fix it...

Give Carrick his pre season. Get him the players he wants. Give him a rolling season long contract. Set him a target. Let's see where the team is by the end of a full season.

Il give him a one year extension tho

Hiring any manager,is a risk in itself. Will it work OR will it fail to work? Then add the pressure cooker,that is Manchester United into the plot,and you have a reciepe for failure staring you in the face.
While I have no say in the final decision that INEOS will take in the summer it is my humble opinion that it would be sucidal to pick a manager with NO premier league experience just because he is Portuguese,Italian,or German. United need to pick a manager who has a little knowledge of the premier league so we dont end up in a repeat of the Ruben Amorim fiasco or the Igor Tudor drama at Tottenham.
It would be the reasonable and safe thing to do,in appointing Michael Carrick on a season long contract which will be renewed subject to his performance. Carrick may not be an elite coach right now but watching his team play there certainly is potential in him somewhere.

Book marked.

Caveatemptor:
The biggest mistake Manchester United can make this summer is to get rid of Carrick.
It will be amusing watching the United board sack Carrick and then hire some greasy haired tactician because his name ends with,"eski".

It will only be a matter of time before de javu comes back to haunt INEOS and United have to pay another hefty pay out and then begin the vicious circle of looking for another Carrick to steady the boat.

If it isn't broken,don't try to fix it...

Give Carrick his pre season. Get him the players he wants. Give him a rolling season long contract. Set him a target. Let's see where the team is by the end of a full season.

Nothing in our style of play is convincing me regarding Carrick getting the job long term. Apart from the first two games against City and Arsenal we have not actually been playing that well and this is despite playing once a week. What is going to happen when he has to juggle champions league and other competition simultaneously and less time on the training ground? He's getting results which is very good and has done well in stabilizing the team but if they are better options in the summer he should leave.

Bombblacks:
Nothing in our style of play is convincing me regarding Carrick getting the job long term. Apart from the first two games against City and Arsenal we have not actually been playing that well and this is despite playing once a week. What is going to happen when he has to juggle champions league and other competition simultaneously and less time on the training ground? He's getting results which is very good and has done well in stabilizing the team but if they are better options in the summer he should leave.

The question you should ask yourself is,are they his players?
He is getting the job done with Amorim's pot of concoction soup. It is not Carrick's pot of soup.
There are consistent wins except for the Newcastle hiccup. Would you rather United play poorly and win games OR dominate games and lose? Bear in mind Carrick was brought in to restore stability amidst the Amorim chaos.
Who do you suggest, should be appointed to replace Carrick. Everyone should put their hat/choice in the ring because right now I am on Carrick 100% Anyway you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.