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Doctrinal Changes And Effect On Personal Judgement

All religious bodies have adjusted doctrines and will still adjust in future.
The fact they touch on core aspect of believe, life, sin, way of life, etc even destiny makes them all vulnerable.

What happens to those who lived and died under the Old doctrine now regarded as optional or false?

Or those who lived the old doctrines in the 1970s- early 2000s and believing to be true? Should they ask for forgiveness from God for fault that isn't theirs by believing their GOs or governing body or Bishop or Pope ?
Or they will still be blamed by God for not studying and asking for interpretation for themselves rather than following and defending their church hierarchy with faith without their own thought process?
What If ones own thought process is wrong especially with little knowledge, idea or expertise on a subject matter?, hence believing in the church body is ideal rather than ones view?
Doesn't still exonerate the church; it's view can be wrong and subject to change in future?
Where does one draw the line as Christians?

This is a fallout from the recent adjustment on blood transfusion from JW which other doctrinal adjustments also happens in every other religion as well.

Where do we draw the line as Christians?

Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/8638945/jehovahs-witnesses-now-allow-transfusion

chimex38:
This is a fallout from the recent adjustment on blood transfusion from JW which other doctrinal adjustments also happens in every other religion as well.
Where do we draw the line as Christians?

This is why you should be convinced that you are worshiping with the one and only true church of Christ!🙂

religious members who:
-self evaluate from time to time
-Study and think independently outside the rules of their hierarchy
-or consider and compare views of others on their doctrines,
-aknowledge some errors and gray areas to see some flaws
-critic parts that are overdue to change.
- question rules and try to provide alternatives where possible etc.

Such members will most likely spot a doctrine and adjust even before their governing body or supreme head makes any pronouncement.



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Christianity requires total submission whether you understand or not {Luke 9:23} if you feel everything must be in black and white then you can never ever be a Christian.

The Apostles of Christ only had one thing in mind:

Jesus of Nazareth keeps on fulfilling the prophecies written in the scriptures about the Christ but his teachings are really really confusing they just stick to what the scriptures say about the Christ. Most of those who felt Jesus need to be corrected in the things he's saying never remain in Christianity! John 6:63-66

So as faithful individuals what we need is how those taking the lead are fulfilling what the scriptures say about the representatives of Christ in our time not thinking about how to correct every seeming error we notice!🙂

chimex38:
religious members who:
-self evaluate from time to time
-Study and think independently outside the rules of their hierarchy
-or consider and compare views of others on their doctrines,
-aknowledge some errors and gray areas to see some flaws
-critic parts that are overdue to change.
- question rules and try to provide alternatives where possible etc.
Such members will most likely spot a doctrine and adjust even before their governing body or supreme head makes any pronouncement.

chimex38:
Doctrinal Changes And Effect On Personal Judgement



This is a fallout from the recent adjustment on blood transfusion from JW which other doctrinal adjustments also happens in every other religion as well.

Where do we draw the line as Christians?

Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/8638945/jehovahs-witnesses-now-allow-transfusion

Way to go...coming to the light gradually

Man made doctrines shall not stand

Very soon they'll change it to you can collect blood only from born witness or how do they call it lol.

It's a gradually change. I believe one of Those 11 men in US that control the witness destiny worldwide must have suffered a painful loss of loved one due to this blood issue and decided to change the doctrine.

I once knew a friend who couldn't marry the girl he loved because she wasn't a witness, even when she said she can convert, seems his family wanted him to marry a born witness.

If you died from complications that required blood transfusion in the past...

Na you kill yourself ooooo

chimex38:
Doctrinal Changes And Effect On Personal Judgement



This is a fallout from the recent adjustment on blood transfusion from JW which other doctrinal adjustments also happens in every other religion as well.

Where do we draw the line as Christians?

Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/8638945/jehovahs-witnesses-now-allow-transfusion

This is not the first time the Witnesses are changing their doctrine on blood though. They've done so multiple times, throughout the decades since they made the doctrine.

JuanDeDios:
This is not the first time the Witnesses are changing their doctrine on blood though.

This is where you see that i have always said a man is always above the law he created so he can always change, amend or even discard it.

Same thing for the fake law called constitution. And since it is law made by my neighbour then I am above it.

OneCandleAway:
Very soon they'll change it to you can collect blood only from born witness or how do they call it lol.

It's a gradually change. I believe one of Those 11 men in US that control the witness destiny worldwide must have suffered a painful loss of loved one due to this blood issue and decided to change the doctrine.

I once knew a friend who couldn't marry the girl he loved because she wasn't a witness, even when she said she can convert, seems his family wanted him to marry a born witness.

Like how would you watch your loved one die all in the name of doctrine when they can easily be saved, a mom would suffer the loss of a child and vice versa, I rather not believe in God....

MaxInDHouse:
This is why you should be convinced that you are worshiping with the one and only true church of Christ!🙂

Why is it suddenly no longer a sin?
una go soon start celebrate birthday and christmas
una go still find reason to defend am

Lamanii22:
Like how would you watch your loved one die all in the name of doctrine when they can easily be saved, a mom would suffer the loss of a child and vice versa, I rather not believe in God....

Lamanii baby.
Can I take u out on a date?

DMCA:
Why is it suddenly no longer a sin?

It's not about sin but good health that is what the holy spirit and the Apostles concluded. Act 15:28-29

The point now is whether blood drained from a person's body is safe to be replaced since it's not from external sources.🙂

Some measures for some set of religious people:
If a doctrine, has been criticized
-especially when probably presented by dissents, atheists, other religious, apostates,
and such people still defend it without evaluation.

Only for the organization to finally acknowledge years later and make doctrinal amends then what says about such persons who were initially very defensive?

I think they are unfortunately kinda like Robots(GIGO) to their religion and fanatics who see every spiritual and Bible discuss as
-Me Vs you thing,
-my religion Vs your religion.


Cuz if what your hierarchy leads "prayed and studied" has been revealed to the people you call faithless, long ago and you were fighting off their criticism. What does that make of one's thought process now even with one's supposedly better wealth of knowledge.?

Then why aknowledge what you've been against cuz its coming from your "divine guided hierarchy".
What happened to, awareness, Bible knowledge and critical thinking, consideration of opinions during the criticism period by others?
Suspended reasoning? Or verses misrepresenting?

Better late than never though

Lamanii22:
Like how would you watch your loved one die all in the name of doctrine when they can easily be saved, a mom would suffer the loss of a child and vice versa, I rather not believe in God....

There's even a case the parents in Lagos sued the hospital for giving their baby blood. The hospital said the baby would have died. Eventually Lagos state ruled that the government had rights on any child under 18 and ruled in favour of the hospital.

A NEPA staff who was electrocuted in 2023 had his both arms amputated because he refused blood transfusion based on this same belief. I wonder how he's going to feel now with this adjustment

MaxInDHouse:
It's not about sin but good health that is what the holy spirit and the Apostles concluded. Act 15:28-29

The point now is whether blood drained from a person's body is safe to be replaced since it's not from external sources.🙂

what was wrong before and what is right now?

Radarada. Cultist church.

DMCA:
what was wrong before and what is right now?

The Apostles and Elders in Jerusalem prayed for guidance on a matter that's involving the congregation and God's holy spirit revealed to them that only activities that could lead to the spread of disease is what they should carefully watch out for. Act 15:28-29

So true Christians needs to abstain from blood but now since it's not from another person's body rather my own body its still safe if returned to my body.🙂

EmmaLege:
Better late than never though

Agreed.

My crux generally is with various religious floor members not even their lead hierarchy who see no flaw in all their doctrines until changes are effected..

chimex38:
religious members who:
-self evaluate from time to time
-Study and think independently outside the rules of their hierarchy
-or consider and compare views of others on their doctrines,
-aknowledge some errors and gray areas to see some flaws
-critic parts that are overdue to change.
- question rules and try to provide alternatives where possible etc.

Such members will most likely spot a doctrine and adjust even before their governing body or supreme head makes any pronouncement.

I actually don't think members of any religion should be making the changes. It should always be up to the leadership if there must be order.

Also, to be honest, there isn't any church that is over a 100 years that has not make several important changes.

I also think that this is a positive start for the JW but I still think that the new rules bring a new set of problems. From what I was told, the new rule allows JW members to bank their own blood for the rainy day. This new law would bring about wild spread inequality.
In richer communities this wouldn't be a challenge, but the poor in 3rd world countries can't keep to this.
The church doctrines shouldn't be to benefit the rich at detriment to the poor.
I hope to be further educated on this though. But in general, this is healthier than the old law. Whomever was responsible for the old law is clearly a mass murderer.

chimex38:
religious members who:
-self evaluate from time to time
-Study and think independently outside the rules of their hierarchy
-or consider and compare views of others on their doctrines,
-aknowledge some errors and gray areas to see some flaws
-critic parts that are overdue to change.
- question rules and try to provide alternatives where possible etc.

Such members will most likely spot a doctrine and adjust even before their governing body or supreme head makes any pronouncement.

That's it and most of the time, they get ostracised when they go against their religious leaders false doctrines a part of their journey when they work with the only leader they have Jesus Christ.

I remember this primary school classmate of mine who died after being knocked down by a car. Ngu cried and begged the mother to be transfused but mama refused point blank. In the end he died..

OneCandleAway:
Very soon they'll change it to you can collect blood only from born witness or how do they call it lol.

It's a gradually change. I believe one of Those 11 men in US that control the witness destiny worldwide must have suffered a painful loss of loved one due to this blood issue and decided to change the doctrine.

I once knew a friend who couldn't marry the girl he loved because she wasn't a witness, even when she said she can convert, seems his family wanted him to marry a born witness.

It's sad to see how people are using religion to make life difficult for themselves rather making it easier and uniting people. I am glad I am not a religious person and I live freely.

TechBaron:
If you died from complications that required blood transfusion in the past...

Na you kill yourself ooooo

But they are not alive to read your comment.

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity requires total submission whether you understand or not {Luke 9:23} if you feel everything must be in black and white then you can never ever be a Christian.

The Apostles of Christ only had one thing in mind:

Jesus of Nazareth keeps on fulfilling the prophecies written in the scriptures about the Christ but his teachings are really really confusing they just stick to what the scriptures say about the Christ. Most of those who felt Jesus need to be corrected in the things he's saying never remain in Christianity! John 6:63-66

So as faithful individuals what we need is how those taking the lead are fulfilling what the scriptures say about the representatives of Christ in our time not thinking about how to correct every seeming error we notice!🙂

Even the Apostles that Jesus hand picked where not given total submission. Jesus didn't expect total submission from people. He repeatedly asks people what they think about his sayings and teachings but tricksters and those in the business of deception, lies and manipulations wants unquestionable obedience to advance their notorious ways

All I can say is that
Religion generally is
The very dumbest thing I
Have ever seen.

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity requires total submission whether you understand or not {Luke 9:23} if you feel everything must be in black and white then you can never ever be a Christian.

The Apostles of Christ only had one thing in mind:

Jesus of Nazareth keeps on fulfilling the prophecies written in the scriptures about the Christ but his teachings are really really confusing they just stick to what the scriptures say about the Christ. Most of those who felt Jesus need to be corrected in the things he's saying never remain in Christianity! John 6:63-66

So as faithful individuals what we need is how those taking the lead are fulfilling what the scriptures say about the representatives of Christ in our time not thinking about how to correct every seeming error we notice!🙂

. I trust this one ...He must Definately get something to defend this. After they have made many to lose their Souls due to this Doctrine ..Chai ...soon they would still Eradicate it fully and Say You are free to Receive Blood Generally .

Na Today Deeper Life no talk more than this ... Don't use TV ,Bla Blah blah today Nko.

Bible Meaning Misinterpreter them to Suit there Interest ..Mtchewww.

All I can say is that
Religion generally is
The very dumbest thing I
Have ever seen

TechBaron:
If you died from complications that required blood transfusion in the past...

Na you kill yourself ooooo

What a sad situation that is and pathetic