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Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 7:41pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
The screenshot is visible in my previous comment @ 7:17pm.
It address a point you made about emergency situations, which necessitated the highlighted part of the screenshot , to respond to your point.
So how is this screenshot a response to emergency blood need like road accident victims, anaemic patient who cant store their blood and suddenly need blood..?? Im genuinely asking
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
U are angry because the truth is like a hard knock on the head….
This is why you people can't make real disciples like Jehovah's Witnesses does so when you see really dedicated men and women sticking to what they have learned you become so jealous that you can't control yourselves anymore.

There is nothing wrong in asking questions but then if someone doesn't answer all your questions all you need to do is bring back the question you will like the person to address but when you continue insulting someone simply because he chooses to respond to you regarding what he believes then you will loose it.

Go out there and make real dedicated disciples like JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES if you feel you have knowledge o!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:50pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
U are angry because the truth is like a hard knock on the head….
I dropped some examples of medical situations needing blood… u ignored them and responded only to pregnant women claiming u already have solution to blood loss during delivery …. Are u not deceiving yourself sir…..??
Whats the solution u have for anaemic disease patients that cant even store their own blood because they dont even have enough to begin with

The millions of children saved by one man’s blood transfusion… what provisions do u have for that??

Like i said sir be deceiving yourself just to juatify your points
JW's have 24/7 support group with contingency plans that partner with medical professionals when medical emergencies arise that involve JW's .

My family member who was very anaemic at the time (a couple of years ago) ,received prompt assistance from the support group.
The Group was in partnership with medical professionals who performed her medical procedure.
She had a major surgery without blood & she's doing very fine without any post operatic issues .
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:55pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
So how is this screenshot a response to emergency blood need like road accident victims, anaemic patient who cant store their blood and suddenly need blood..?? Im genuinely asking
Oga, Thank you Sir for asking.
I like your curious ,inquisitive mindset.

JW's have 24/7 support group with contingency plans that partner with medical professionals when medical emergencies arise that involve JW's .

My family member who was very anaemic at the time (a couple of years ago ,coupled with a life threateniing health issues) she received prompt assistance from the support group.
The Group was in partnership with medical professionals who performed her medical procedure.
She had a major surgery without blood & she's doing very fine without any post operatic issues till date .
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 7:58pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
This is why you people can't make real disciples like Jehovah's Witnesses does so when you see really dedicated men and women sticking to what they have learned you become so jealous that you can't control yourselves anymore.

There is nothing wrong in asking questions but then if someone doesn't answer all your questions all you need to do is bring back the question you will like the person to address but when you continue insulting someone simply because he chooses to respond to you regarding what he believes then you will loose it.

Go out there and make real dedicated disciples like JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES if you feel you have knowledge o!🙂
Bro, stay calm.
grin grin
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
JW's have 24/7 support group with contingency plans that partner with medical professionals when medical emergencies arise that involve JW's .
He is not interested in knowing rather he is seeking excuses to insult whoever responds positively regarding Jehovah's Witnesses matter.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
Bro, stay calm. grin grin
You know how funny this people can be at times.
I'm responding to his questions and trying to cut away the abusive parts but instead of him to act maturely he keeps on throwing up insults as if it's a must that i should answer him!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:08pm On Mar 22
tnerro1:
We have the 10 commandments in the Bible that basically says what is not acceptable. Can you show in the Bible where blood was given to someone medically?

At least, that will be used as a case study for why it was written that the procedure is wrong and should not be done.
To your question , no.
However , the bible has both laws and principles which has been proven by medical science to be very essential to public health.
For example, the bible instruction of washing of hands and quarantine of the sick , was carried out for many centuries before medical science recommended it as standard practice.

Acts 15:28-29, specifically prohibits fornication.
oral action is not in that verse.
Is someone doing oral action disobeying the instruction against fornication ?
Yes.

JW's use this same bible principle (prohibition of oral action/blood ) to abstain from B.T.
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by tnerro1(m): 8:16pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
To your question , no.
However , the bible has both laws and principles which has been proven by medical science to be very essential to public health.
For example, the bible instruction of washing of hands and quarantine of the sick , was carried out for many centuries before medical science recommended it as standard practice.

Acts 15:28-29, specifically prohibits fornication.
oral action is not in that verse.
Is someone doing oral action disobeying the instruction against fornication ?
Yes.

JW's use this same bible principle (prohibition of oral action/blood ) to abstain from B.T.
Please don’t equate oral action to a doctor’s decision or advice to give blood to a patient he deems is in need of it. Abeg nah
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:18pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
So why are u here changing the laws u claim are from God’s scripture??
Yall claim eating blood and transfusing is the same thing years ago to justify refusing all forms of transfusion….

so all of a sudden eating your own blood is now okay??

The man in USA is just playing with your lives in a bid to appear unique….yall are not different from muslims who dint read their quran but are inly told whats in it…
Oga,have you ever done tooth extraction?
When the dentist is extracting your tooth ,nah where the red substance dey go?

Are you eating that red substance flowing out from your wound & entering back to your system?
Oga,pls reason am.

Nobody in USA is doing what you claimed.

grin grin grin
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:22pm On Mar 22
tnerro1:
Please don’t equate oral action to a doctor’s decision or advice to give blood to a patient he deems is in need of it. Abeg nah
You don't seem to understand the point I expressed.

Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 8:33pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
Oga, be humble pls.
No dey assume you know everything.
JW's have contingency support group to deal with the emergencies like accidents ,etc for our members when the need arises.
Every JW's know how to go about it instanta..



Abeg you read the screenshot.
If you guys have this perfect contingency on ground thats already working, then tell me what's the need of this update that was released few days ago??

Abeg make us understand the need of the update..

I'm waiting....
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 8:39pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
This is why you people can't make real disciples like Jehovah's Witnesses does so when you see really dedicated men and women sticking to what they have learned you become so jealous that you can't control yourselves anymore.

There is nothing wrong in asking questions but then if someone doesn't answer all your questions all you need to do is bring back the question you will like the person to address but when you continue insulting someone simply because he chooses to respond to you regarding what he believes then you will loose it.

Go out there and make real dedicated disciples like JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES if you feel you have knowledge o!🙂
Hahaha grin grin grin

He said jealous! Jealous of what please? So, because we are pointing out the areas where you guys are wrong in your doctrines means we are jealous abi?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41pm On Mar 22
NA wah o!

So you never REST YOUR CASE?🤣

Eldeedon:
Hahaha grin grin grin
He said jealous! Jealous of what please? So, because we are pointing out the areas where you guys are wrong in your doctrines means we are jealous abi?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 8:43pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
NA wah o!

So you never REST YOUR CASE?🤣
I'm with you spiritually
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:45pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
I'm with you spiritually
I thought you said:

Eldeedon:
I rest my case
This is why you people are jealous of Jehovah's Witnesses when we speak we stick to our words if you can't stick to your own word how can you stick to God's word?🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 8:49pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
I thought you said:



This is why you people are jealous of Jehovah's Witnesses when we speak we stick to our words if you can't stick to your own word how can you stick to God's word?🙂
The most inconsistent people i have ever known when it comes to sticking to their words embarassed
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:52pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
The most inconsistent people i have ever known when it comes to sticking to their words embarassed
Ọmọ when a JW say it's done he will not come back to you again but you people can't even stand on what you say.
If you're talking about our faith that is our property it has practically nothing to do with you o!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky: 8:56pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
If you guys have this perfect contingency on ground thats already working, then tell me what's the need of this update that was released few days ago??

Abeg make us understand the need of the update..

I'm waiting....

Like I said before, on this forum.
It's the mainstream news media that labelled the practice that JW's have been doing since the late 1970s/80s down to this 2026 as "new policy shift".

That hundeyin guy was a toddler when the info was first published in our journals,you know not everybody reads JW's publications ,hence they wouldn't know what every JW's know about this matter.
The info is in our older publications (before the advent of the internet) that the matter is a personal decision (jw broadcast update #2 video) stated the same thing and referenced our Watchtower year 2000 October article as reminder to all JW's worldwide .
Not everyone could access the older Watchtower articles , but our TV broadcast is widely received everywhere.

Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 9:00pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ when a JW say it's done he will not come back to you again but you people can't even stand on what you say.
If you're talking about our faith that is our property it has practically nothing to do with you o!🙂
Yes it has everything to do me! Everybody has his or right to do and to blv what ever he or she want to blv! You can't keep on telling me that I'm the bad guy why you are the good guy and expect us to keep quiet.

You guys can't keep on telling the whole world that you guys are the only true Christians why the rest of us are nothing and expect us to keep quiet
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 9:05pm On Mar 22
Janosky:

Like I said before, on this forum.
It's the mainstream news media that labelled the practice that JW's have been doing since the late 1970s/80s down to this 2026 as "new policy shift".

That hundeyin guy was a toddler when the info was first published in our journals,you know not everybody reads JW's publications ,hence they wouldn't know what every JW's know about this matter.
The info is in our older publications (before the advent of the internet) that the matter is a personal decision (jw broadcast update #2 video) stated the same thing and referenced our Watchtower year 2000 October article as reminder to all JW's worldwide .
Not everyone could access the older Watchtower articles , but our TV broadcast is widely received everywhere.

Guy is very obvious you don't even know about the religion you claim to be with that much or you don't even study your own religion. You only follow the instructions giving to you, nothing else..

So, the year 2000 you reference is very obvious you didn't even read that page, if you do you will see this part in it!

Guy you really fall ur organization hand oo I swear...

Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:06pm On Mar 22
Have you seen any JW in your street shouting that you are bad people?

Have you heard any JW telling you that you are bad people?

Have any JWs call you bad simply because you are not a JW?

Ọmọ nah conscience dey disturb unah that's why i said it's jealousy making you people speak, all we are saying is you can't be a worshiper of our God if you are not worshiping with us.

The same thing all other religions are saying globally but your conscience will not let you rest because you people are seeing faith in action among JWs so you just want us to agree with you that we are your fellow worshipers which is not true!🙂

Eldeedon:
Yes it has everything to do me! Everybody has his or right to do and to blv what ever he or she want to blv! You can't keep on telling me that I'm the bad guy why you are the good guy and expect us to keep quiet.
You guys can't keep on telling the whole world that you guys are the only true Christians why the rest of us are nothing and expect us to keep quiet
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 9:08pm On Mar 22
Make una they try do research for una own documents! At least this one now is not from an external source you people will call apostate work angry
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 9:10pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Have you seen any JW in your street shouting that you are bad people?

Have you heard any JW telling you that you are bad people?

Have any JWs call you bad simply because you are not a JW?

Ọmọ nah conscience dey disturb unah that's why i said it's jealousy making you people speak, all we are saying is you can't be a worshiper of our God if you are not worshiping with us.

The same thing all other religions are saying globally but your conscience will not let you rest because you people are seeing faith in action among JWs so you just want us to agree with you that we are your fellow worshipers which is not true!🙂
Where does the tag "worldly people" comes from?
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:13pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
Where does the tag "worldly people" comes from?
Can you mention a single religion that doesn't use that tag?

Even Muslims are using it not to mention Christendom Churches!🙂
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 9:20pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
Oga,have you ever done tooth extraction?
When the dentist is extracting your tooth ,nah where the red substance dey go?

Are you eating that red substance flowing out from your wound & entering back to your system?
Oga,pls reason am.

Nobody in USA is doing what you claimed.

grin grin grin
Baba…All u are doing now is desperately explaining for your leaders who just wake up and make laws to form spiritually active

I ask again.. years ago when yall banned all forms of blood transfusions by claiming its the same as physically eating blood…..was ur knowledge limited at the that time to know its okay to eat ur own blood??

And by the way… if u have actually been to the dentist to remove ur tooth u should know they give
a local anaesthetic which restricts ur blood vessels,…
but as usual u are desperate to explain on behalf of ur insensitive leaders so u use any analogy u can find
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Eldeedon(m): 9:23pm On Mar 22
MaxInDHouse:
Can you mention a single religion that doesn't use that tag?

Even Muslims are using it not to mention Christendom Churches!🙂
We don't just sit down and call people worldly because we do not worship in the same church.. I understand the Bible warns about ‘the world,’ but it’s talking about sinful behavior, not labeling everyone outside one group. There are many people outside your organization who sincerely follow God too. undecided
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MrEar(m): 9:28pm On Mar 22
advanceDNA:
Baba…All u are doing now is desperately explaining for your leaders who just wake up and make laws to form spiritually active

I ask again.. years ago when yall banned all forms of blood transfusions by claiming its the same as physically eating blood…..was ur knowledge limited at the that time to know its okay to eat ur own blood??

And by the way… if u have actually been to the dentist to remove ur tooth u should know they give
a local anaesthetic which restricts ur blood vessels,…
but as usual u are desperate to explain on behalf of ur insensitive leaders so u use any analogy u can find
The funny thing is their explanation doesn't even make sense.

Ask MaxInDHouse what is 2+2 and he will tell you 5 with no shame. grin
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by Janosky:
advanceDNA:
Baba…All u are doing now is desperately explaining for your leaders who just wake up and make laws to form spiritually active

I ask again.. years ago when yall banned all forms of blood transfusions by claiming its the same as physically eating blood…..was ur knowledge limited at the that time to know its okay to eat ur own blood??

And by the way… if u have actually been to the dentist to remove ur tooth u should know they give
a local anaesthetic which restricts ur blood vessels,…
but as usual u are desperate to explain on behalf of ur insensitive leaders so u use any analogy u can find
When the dentist give you anaesthetics & commence tooth extraction , the red substance from the incision dey enter your system,
Oga,is that a blood donation or B.T ?

No.


This is the simple meaning of B.T:

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blood transfusion
/ˈblʌd tran(t)sfjuːʒ(ə)n/
A blood transfusion is a common medical procedure where donated blood or components (red cells, platelets, plasma) are delivered intravenously into a patient's bloodstream."

Oga, the difference is B.T. is donated blood to another patient.

You don't donate your own blood for your own surgical procedure.

Oga,use your brain nau.
grin
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 10:04pm On Mar 22
Janosky:
Oga, the difference is B.T. is donated blood to another patient.

You don't donate your own blood for your own surgical procedure.

Oga,use your brain nau.
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Lol….: u have switch to insults... I ask again …where did this brain u are claiming you are using disappeared to when u were banning all from of transfusion years back including your own blood..??

God is not an author of confusion baba…u are the ones confusing your self on your congregation and thats why yall are desperate to explain now
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by advanceDNA: 10:11pm On Mar 22
MrEar:
The funny thing is their explanation doesn't even make sense.

Ask MaxInDHouse what is 2+2 and he will tell you 5 with no shame. grin
When u are in a cult like JW and Islam …. Wateva religious leaders say is final….even if the context if ur religious text says different….

Thats how they misinterpreted praying in the closet.. i asked one of them yesterday i hope they all have closet ooooo….
Re: JW Adjustment On Blood Transfusion: Doctrinal Changes & Effects by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:34pm On Mar 22
Eldeedon:
We don't just sit down and call people worldly because we do not worship in the same church.. I understand the Bible warns about ‘the world,’ but it’s talking about sinful behavior, not labeling everyone outside one group. There are many people outside your organization who sincerely follow God too. undecided
In a nutshell there are many religions tagging people "worldly" for one reason or another.

So what exactly are you saying now?
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