₦airaland Forum

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What are you saying.
Are Nigerians not paying the commercial price of gasoline despite all the initial resistance to subsidy removal.
Are Nigerians not paying the crisis price of gasoline because of the MidEast war.

Please don't hide behind Nigerians. The people have ALWAYS payed their bills when compelled to. It is the people that have continued to pay a heavy toll for government corruption, mismanagement and inefficiency. Was it not government and it's lackeys that stole trillions from subsidy payments. Now who is paying to reconstruct government finances, the people.

It is the government that set the electricity rate, it is government that split the billing systems into bands to promote efficiency they claim, and it is the government that is the heaviest debtor to the power companies.

So please share your stories in the right corridors. But if government thinks the common man will pay for the electricity it consumes in its own offices, government accomodations, courts, police stations, barracks, stadia, hospitals, schools, All of which constitute the bulk of debts owed the power companies, after crazy budgeting and taxing the people to death, then it is in for a long thing.

When people are fed up of an inept government, they will simply throw them out.

So, what's the problem with my point about cost reflective tarrifs. Let the government remove subsides, allow discos set cost reflective tarrifs, and since you say nigerians can pay, let them all pay a cost reflective tarrif, and if there is no improvement, we can blame the companies and government

Man, I didn't expect you to just argue for argument sake abeg.

Jakarta:
Can you calmly read what you wrote? Nothing is free but you want to collect cost reflective tariffs from areas where you did not sow a penny. Of what use are u as a distribution company if you can't provide measures for adequate distribution of the electricity you are being supplied?

If you feel you don't have money to invest in infrastructure to sustain your business, it is better you quit, instead of stealing from customers and crying fowl, because the the customers will in turn steal heavily from you.

Well, if you invest in a company or a thing, you expect to see return on investment.

From the way you are talking you seem to think that investment is free money, and that people who invest are not supposed to see any returns but to just dash people money

That's not how real life works.

The rest of your commentary was just special pleading and rhetorics.

nairalanda1:
Well, if you invest in a company or a thing, you expect to see return on investment.

From the way you are talking you seem to think that investment is free money, and that people who invest are not supposed to see any returns but to just dash people money

That's not how real life works.

The rest of your commentary was just special pleading and rhetorics.

Ok, a customer that invested in buying transformers, electric poles, wires, meters which ordinarily should be provided by DisCos shouldn't expect back their capital let alone their return on investment, but the Discos should expect to see returns on their own investment. Can you see how selfish and self centred you are?

Can you please tell me the primary duties of DisCos?

I ask you again whose duty is it to provide transformers, electric poles, wires, and meters, is it Discos or their customers? The way some of you think is baffling I must say.

Jakarta:
Ok, a customer that invested in buying transformers, electric poles, wires, meters which ordinarily should be provided by DisCos shouldn't expect back their capital let alone their return on investment, but the Discos should expect to see returns on their own investment. Can you see how selfish and self centred you are?

You are kind of mixing your tomato with your tomato.

Discos and gencos cannot buy transformers, electric poles, wires, meters, etc...because they do not get enough investment, which happens because many potential investors don't want to put money into a company that is bound to lose money because government is setting prices for most consumers.

Again, the analogy of the private school I went to vs the government school i did not go to...the private school fees were five times that of the government school, yet I was able to get books and textbooks and desk from the private school, because everyone paid fees at the rate set by the private school, and because there were external investors (exparents and local companies), that were ready to invest money in the school..in return for kids of their staff getting a good education

The government school was not able to do that because the cheap fees they were charging were too low to pay for all that, and government funding for education then as now was scanty (because budgets were scanty, and additionally because stealing was prevalent even then).

Can you please tell me the primary duties of DisCos?

Would your wife be able to cook for you if you gave her no cooking money, or if you prevented her from eating the food she cooked for the family , and instead went hungry?

Think about that.

I ask you again whose duty is it to provide transformers, electric poles, wires, and meters, is it Discos or their customers? The way some of you think is baffling I must say.

The disco, and they would do it when everyone...is paying a cost reflective tarrif. It is because most nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs...and at least 20-30% are not even paying for the electricty they use, or severely underpaying...that you have to buy all that.

Again did you ever buy generators, diesel, and antenna and wires for your GSM company? Again you did not because every Nigerian pays a cost reflective tarrif to the gsm companies, and unlike electricity where one can bypass meters, you can't use a phone without paying at all.

nairalanda1:
You are kind of mixing your tomato with your tomato.

Discos and gencos cannot buy transformers, electric poles, wires, meters, etc...because they do not get enough investment, which happens because many potential investors don't want to put money into a company that is bound to lose money because government is setting prices for most consumers.

Giving your analogy stealing shouldn't be a crime or a bad thing if people could give excuses that they stole due to the fact that they have no money or what to eat?

Would your wife be able to cook for you if you gave her no cooking money, or if you prevented her from eating the food she cooked for the family , and instead went hungry?

What if I gave same wife 20k, and she still refused to cook simply because other men are giving their wives 60k - 70k to cook? Does such an example makes sense to you?

The disco, and they would do it when everyone...is paying a cost reflective tarrif. It is because most nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs...and at least 20-30% are not even paying for the electricty they use, or severely underpaying...that you have to buy all that.

Again did you ever buy generators, diesel, and antenna and wires for your GSM company? Again you did not because every Nigerian pays a cost reflective tarrif to the gsm companies, and unlike electricity where one can bypass meters, you can't use a phone without paying at all.

So those who are ready to do it will do it, and and recoup their investment by not paying bills to these Discos, the cost of what they spent will be deducted from their bills. Should that be too hard for an adult to comprehend?

Lastly I didn't buy Diesels, and antennas for telecom companies because they stood firm on their responsibilities in providing the network infrastructure that would ease acquisition of cost reflect tarrifs paying customers. Not crying like babies over paying tarrifs. Even these telecoms companies had various tariffs plans for customers who are being charged based on their tarrifs plans, that's called innovation which Discos lack.
Stop manufacturing endless excuses for failure, it's a sign of stagnation and not taking responsibilities for actions.

Jakarta:
Giving your analogy stealing shouldn't be a crime or a bad thing if people could give excuses that they stole due to the fact that they have no money or what to eat?

Irrelevant. Next.

What if I gave same wife 20k, and she still refused to cook simply because other men are giving their wives 60k - 70k to cook? Does such an example makes sense to you?

Irrelevant. Next.

(Plus if you expect a N60000 WORTH of cooking from someone who you just gave N20000, better analogy for you to get what I am telling you.)

Again, special pleading. Next.

So those who are ready to do it will do it, and and recoup their investment by not paying bills to these Discos, the cost of what they spent will be deducted from their bills. Should that be too hard for an adult to comprehend?

Most Nigerians do not pay bills, so discos lose a lot of money in potential profits, which means they can't provide power for everyone

Power supply is more than wires, and poles

You want free electricity, so better admit it.

NEXT.

Lastly I didn't buy Diesels, and antennas for telecom companies because they stood firm on their responsibilities in providing the network infrastructure that would ease acquisition of cost reflect tarrifs paying customers. Not crying like babies over paying tarrifs. Even these telecoms companies had various tariffs plans for customers who are being charged based on their tarrifs plans, that's called innovation which Discos lack.

Which they were able to do because 100% of nigerians pay a cost refective tarrif to use phones on the GSM network

That's the difference with the discos where only 20% or less do so

20% is not 100%

NEXT.

Stop manufacturing endless excuses for failure, it's a sign of stagnation and not taking responsibilities for actions.

If every Nigerian paid a cost reflective tarrif, the power sector will work

Adieu. And better read better.