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budaatum:
That was not the question raised, and I forgive you because you might have missed what was framed.

The question was, does the Quran make Muslims security risk that should be assessed for risk at Guantanamo Bay before they are let into USA. And the wife beating verse was presented as an example of said risk. Like Muslims read such verses and just do what those verses encourage.

It is why we asked if the Muslim Mayor of London and the Muslim Mayor of New York or any Muslim you know beats their wives. Or even if Christians who read "Thou shalt not steal", do not steal.

We also presented examples of Uthman Dan Fodio, known for spreading Islam in Nigeria, advocating against wife beating and educating his own Muslim daughter, Nana Amasu, so no one can beat her, and so she can educate women to be against being beaten, but "smart people" want to ignore all the intellectual discussion that has occured ever since "beat your wife" was written in the Quran and argue that most Muslims read "beat your wife" in the Quran today and therefore beat their wives.

Thankfully, TV01, who is the only one who has actually admitted to having Muslims around him and in his family has described the sort of men who beat their wives, and no one has yet told me that is who most Muslim men are.

As for offending me. I want you to know that my opinion of rude and insulting people is they (may temporarily) lack the intellectual capacity to argue their position, and want to cover it up by engaging in an insult slinging match. It takes two, but you are now amongst those who hopefully realise that buda does not play that game. (I'll add, "often", because you might find the thread where I did play that game very ferociously indeed). You can not offend me.

You are telling lies as usual.

IjeBos:
Looks like Twitter is trying to get rid of the Basilico's and Bemeruca's of the world.

First sharing location info
Now making it harder for foreigners to influence American political audiences

I do wonder why they are doing this now.

Oga, I asked you to block this account too. What is wrong.



With you

This story moved me.

I'm sharing my contradiction with you.

https://www.nairaland.com/8642287/story-behind-stop-abortion-junction#138895927

nateevs:
Where did you come from?

Good evening sir

Every time this comes up I think of my brother telling my mother, who was struggling to put food in his belly, that he is a woman, or brings a tranny home and tells her he's getting married.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/mar/26/transgender-women-athletes-banned-from-female-events-at-olympics-by-ioc

I once called it an ongoing conversation that some feel the need to have. I'm now certain it's not over.

budaatum:
I know, ono, because I educate myself. There's after all lots of books one can read on the subject so one is not just brainwashed.

Even your Jesus advised it so you may gain understanding, but I guess that's not what your own holy spirit tells you.

You're doing your shape shifting thing again. Stay on the subject. Don't generalise.

"Israelis were chasing non-Jews out of their houses and were claiming their land because they read in some book that their God gave it to a man named Abraham, or was it Moses? They were never quite clear. "

1. What did "their God" tell them about the land, really?
2. On whose authority (or how did you arrive at that conclusion) do you stand to tell them that what "their God" told them was not quite clear?
3. The "some book" you mention is the Torah - the book our Old Testament is based. Are you so filled with the spirit of the dark age now that you don't even know what the "Bible" is?
3. You quoted a passage in the book of Deuteronomy. Do you even understand what that verse of the scripture says?

budaatum:
That was not the question raised, and I forgive you because you might have missed what was framed.

The question was, does the Quran make Muslims security risk that should be assessed for risk at Guantanamo Bay before they are let into USA. And the wife beating verse was presented as an example of said risk. Like Muslims read such verses and just do what those verses encourage.

It is why we asked if the Muslim Mayor of London and the Muslim Mayor of New York or any Muslim you know beats their wives. Or even if Christians who read "Thou shalt not steal", do not steal.

We also presented examples of Uthman Dan Fodio, known for spreading Islam in Nigeria, advocating against wife beating and educating his own Muslim daughter, Nana Amasu, so no one can beat her, and so she can educate women to be against being beaten, but "smart people" want to ignore all the intellectual discussion that has occured ever since "beat your wife" was written in the Quran and argue that most Muslims read "beat your wife" in the Quran today and therefore beat their wives.

Thankfully, TV01, who is the only one who has actually admitted to having Muslims around him and in his family has described the sort of men who beat their wives, and no one has yet told me that is who most Muslim men are.

As for offending me. I want you to know that my opinion of rude and insulting people is they (may temporarily) lack the intellectual capacity to argue their position, and want to cover it up by engaging in an insult slinging match. It takes two, but you are now amongst those who hopefully realise that buda does not play that game. (I'll add, "often", because you might find the thread where I did play that game very ferociously indeed). You can not offend me.

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I don't particularly see it as rude or insulting to point out that something is silly or someone is being silly.

Nonetheless pls be so kind as to link me to the post where this issue first arose. It might help with context.

drisham:
Good evening sir

I replied sir.

budaatum:
Some do believe that others believe in talking snakes, so they believe they beat their wives because of a verse in a god book.

They themselves do not love their own neighbours however, like they read they must in verses in their own god book, but I guess that's because their god book might not be as convincing as the Quran except when they are using their own god book to grab land.

Except when they are using their own god book to grab land.

Succinctly put.

ono:
1. What did "their God" tell them about the land, really?

"Their God" really never told them anything, ono.

Some men sat down and wrote a book about a god they created and convinced you it spoke to them, and the Palestinians are not having it. And if you had bothered to read books like these, you too would have developed your mind to reason and understand the clues better.

Its like ọmọ onilẹ goes to Oyingbo to do fake CofO to come and claim their great grandfather never sold the land to me.

DeepSight:
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I don't particularly see it as rude or insulting to point out that something is silly or someone is being silly.

Nonetheless pls be so kind as to link me to the post where this issue first arose. It might help with context.

Sorry deepsight, but I can not really be bothered because this wife bearing has taken up far too much of my time, and, moreso because I have a meeting in 10 minutes to continue a review of my old student's association's constitution. Maybe later perhaps. Though I don't wanna waste any more of my time on wife beating, to be sincere.

Do know that I don't particularly care if people are rude or insult buda, as i see it more of a reflection of them than anything they may rudely or insultungly say about me.

DeepSight:
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Very well weighed and delivered. I agree. I only said its fishy because there's simply no way a co-relation with his being the President's son will not be drawn. Its just impossible. It will always look like some sort of nepotism.

But I wholly agree with you.

I must add that those who support the man who mass-pardoned January 6th convicts and the ex president of Honduras - a mass drug trafficker - had best be silent in this matter.

I hear you, that's what we nonconservatives do.
We want fairness and justice and ruminate on it and get pained about anything that may seem unfair so we even go to lengths to make sure there is no perception of unfairness or bias.
So, what we do, is we bent so backwards to not be seen as biased we become biased the other way.

Case in point Merrick Garland and how he ran his investigations.
Or James Comey
Or I don't know if you remember the controversy around Lynch and the tarmac meeting with Clinton. Republicans railed on that; how could an ex-president meet with the AG for a few minutes when their planes are waiting on the same tarmac while her department is investigating his wife. All the while Trump is posting on Truth social who his DOJ should investigate.

There are two sets of rules for Democrats and Republicans.
And I for one aren't living under that paradigm anymore.

budaatum:
Sorry deepsight, but I can not really be bothered because this wife bearing has taken up far too much of my time, and, moreso because I have a meeting in 10 minutes to continue a review of my old student's association's constitution. Maybe later perhaps. Though I don't wanna waste any more of my time on wife beating, to be sincere.

Do know that I don't particularly care if people are rude or insult buda, as i see it more of a reflection of them than anything they may rudely or insultungly say about me.

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Alright.

Since you may not produce the link, I have to retain my understanding. Post over post the question was made clear as to whether Islam taught that or not. And you appeared to try to shift the goal post in a most absurd manner.

Exactly. We hold ourselves to all the standards in the world and these guys don’t even care about decency in the slightest.

Two can actually play that game and they’ll cry blood when the foot is on the other shoe

Can you believe the “morally upright” “family values” “God is back in the White House” hypocrites actually have no shame in blatantly and openly saying they support a pdfile.

What a travesty of all that is good and holy!

IjeBos:
I heat you, that's what we nonconservatives do.
We want fairness and justice and ruminate on it and get pained about anything that may seem unfair so we even go to lengths to make sure there is no perception of unfairness or bias.
So, what we do, is we bent so backwards to not be seen as biased we become biased the other way.

Case in point Merrick Garland and how he ran his investigations.
Or James Comey
Or I don't know if you remember the controversy around Lynch and the tarmac meeting with Clinton. Republicans railed on that; how could an ex-president meet with the AG for a few minutes when their planes are waiting on the same tarmac while her department is investigating his wife. All the while Trump is posting on Truth social who his DOJ should investigate.

There are two sets of rules for Democrats and Republicans.
And I for one aren't living under that paradigm anymore.

raumdeuter:
I think means In my opinion. Education is always a thing for you guys,

Your opinion is shaky.

When you see something condemnable, you condemn it.

Not make floating comments like “I think”. Has your thoughts ever been reasonable in this forum. The next minute you’d be all over the place dancing around and doing obeisance to Trump.

Say you condemn it or just rest.

😡

DeepSight:
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Alright.

Since you may not produce the link, I have to retain my understanding. Post over post the question was made clear as to whether Islam taught that or not. And you appeared to try to shift the goal post in a most absurd manner.

I can live with your retention and with what "appeared to try to shift the goal post in a most absurd manner" to you, especially if you refuse to use your own data and your own time to deep seek for the beginning of the wife beating conversation so you can see for yourself.

Do know that my own view of wife beating in the Quran, is that only an Ïgnorant "man who is any combination of immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high even" would learn from the Quran or anywhere to beat their wife or even sit in a mosque where wife beating is taught. And I expect the wives to have something to say about it too except in Afghanistan, where a lot of ignorant "immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high" men seem to exist.

bayelsaowei:
Your opinion is shaky.
When you see something condemnable, you condemn it.
Not make floating comments like “I think”. Has your thoughts ever been reasonable in this forum. The next minute you’d be all over the place dancing around and doing obeisance to Trump.
Say you condemn it or just rest.
😡

TDS in words

budaatum:
I can live with your retention and with what "appeared to try to shift the goal post in a most absurd manner" to you, especially if you refuse to use your own data and your own time to deep seek for the beginning of the wife beating conversation so you can see for yourself.

Do know that my own view of wife beating in the Quran, is that only an Ïgnorant "man who is any combination of immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high even" would learn from the Quran or anywhere to beat their wife or even sit in a mosque where wife beating is taught. And I expect the wives to have something to say about it too except in Afghanistan, where a lot of ignorant "immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high" men seem to exist.

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Still off point, but as you say, let's leave it.

raumdeuter:
TDS in words

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How about your SDS

ICE killing Americans like the left say

At JFK Airport, as travelers waited in hours-long lines, an infant became unresponsive and stopped breathing. The panic of the child’s family and nearby passengers were heard by an ICE agent stationed at a checkpoint.

This heroic officer immediately sprang into action—rushing… pic.twitter.com/JOJaFSEIZK

— Homeland Security (@DHSgov) March 26, 2026

Pete Hegseth quickly went from:
“we want only gra gra manly macho non-fat men in the military”

To: “Pls send us your middle age stoners” anything at this point 😂🙄😂

budaatum:
"Their God" really never told them anything, ono.

Some men sat down and wrote a book about a god they created and convinced you it spoke to them, and the Palestinians are not having it. And if you had bothered to read books like these, you too would have developed your mind to reason and understand the clues better.

Its like ọmọ onilẹ goes to Oyingbo to do fake CofO to come and claim their great grandfather never sold the land to me.

So, this is how buda got her mind "fried". I have read the book in the link you shared. I have the book in my book shelve. My daughter read the book. Thankfully, we didn't get our minds fried and turn rebellious against God simply by reading some man made up fables and stories. We always knew there is a limit to how much our brainpower can process. Even as a professional engineer, I always knew there's limit to how much we know about our world. We believe our existence in this world is not based only on the laws of nature. There is a supernatural power that makes everything work in perfect unison in this world and in the universe. I've engaged many of your type in England and Scotland. I leave you in God's loving arms buda for your redemption. For with our God, nothing shall be impossible.

budaatum:
Some do believe that others believe in talking snakes, so they believe they beat their wives because of a verse in a god book.

They themselves do not love their own neighbours however, like they read they must in verses in their own god book, but I guess that's because their god book might not be as convincing as the Quran except when they are using their own god book to grab land.

Hmmm. That's an eye opener of sorts. Are you a muslim, if I may ask?

Lol, lmao even.
Trump admin has burned out any political capital they initially had after the elections.

Gen Z CPAC attendee says Republicans "are going to get destroyed in the midterms":

"A lot of people I knew who just voted for Trump because they thought it was cool, are just now being like, 'I can't stand the guy.'" pic.twitter.com/4u28OqSs1q

— The American Conservative (@amconmag) March 26, 2026

IMAliyu2:
Lol, lmao even.
Trump admin has burned out any political capital they initially had after the elections.

Gen Z CPAC attendee says Republicans "are going to get destroyed in the midterms":

"A lot of people I knew who just voted for Trump because they thought it was cool, are just now being like, 'I can't stand the guy.'" pic.twitter.com/4u28OqSs1q

— The American Conservative (@amconmag) March 26, 2026

There's still plenty of time to wipe out Islamist terrorists in Iran. Fingers crossed.

IMAliyu2:
Lol, lmao even.
Trump admin has burned out any political capital they initially had after the elections.

Gen Z CPAC attendee says Republicans "are going to get destroyed in the midterms":

"A lot of people I knew who just voted for Trump because they thought it was cool, are just now being like, 'I can't stand the guy.'" pic.twitter.com/4u28OqSs1q

— The American Conservative (@amconmag) March 26, 2026

It won't surprise anyone if that is the case. It has always been like this.

bemeruca:
You are telling lies as usual.

buda lies a lot.

This is liberalism

An antifa militant from Cambridge, Mass. is among the many, many in the Democrat activist to leftist terrorism advocate pipeline. Calla Walsh, who travels frequently to Cuba and the Middle East, is now a regime influencer for Iranian state media. pic.twitter.com/Sx77w3hOQM

— Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) March 26, 2026

IjeBos:
Looks like Twitter is trying to get rid of the Basilico's and Bemeruca's of the world.

First sharing location info
Now making it harder for foreigners to influence American political audiences

I do wonder why they are doing this now.

X has a lot of bots who automatically respond to mentions of certain phrases or words.
Nairaland doesn't have. There are s few posts I've seen on this thread by someone who is south Africa willing to exchange ideas I don't think there is any problem with that.
Why you obsessed by Benalvino3 location.