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Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by chimex38: 7:29am On Apr 07

For other readers,
you guys can look-up :
Imran N. Hosein
What makes him quite Popular

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by chimex38: 8:08am On Apr 07

AntiChristian:
So if Odumeje makes a claim, I can also say a Christian scholar made a claim and that claim is binding on you as a Christian?

Such is your Galatians 3:1 attitude.

I never said it was binding, I only pointed out via video that some Muslims believe otherwise. I even mentioned it in my previous post you also quoted-->"some Muslims"

You leave the main point of discuss but yet criticizing Christians fervently on a Christian thread with your beliefs and then all of a sudden, gaslighting and pursuing straws when presented with contrary Muslim opinions? undecided

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by chimex38: 8:16am On Apr 07

chimex38:
seems some Muslims also do..
#Sheikh-Imran Nazar Hosein
#A Popular learned Scholar as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYYmAQxjaQc&pp=iggCQAE%3D

Whoever believes that Jesus was replaced at crucifixion as the Sheikh said
Which seems to be the popular Muslim believe, how then can Muslims reconcile the Justice involved to the innocent person crucified on Jesus behalf as raised by Sheikh Imran Hosein in this video?

Since both Christians and Muslims believe Jesus was condemned to die, What then do the Muslims believe happened to Jesus himself on the day Jesus was condemned to die since unlike most Christians, Muslims don't believe he was crucified or died in any form?

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by AntiChristian: 11:04am On Apr 07

chimex38:
I never said it was binding, I only pointed out via video that some Muslims believe otherwise. I even mentioned it in my previous post you also quoted-->"some Muslims"

How can one person become some Muslims?

You leave the main point of discuss but yet criticizing Christians fervently on a Christian thread with your beliefs and then all of a sudden, gaslighting and pursuing straws when presented with contrary Muslim opinions?

Once again, it is one Muslim's opinion you brought not opinions (Plural).

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by AntiChristian: 11:15am On Apr 07

chimex38:
Whoever believes that Jesus was replaced at crucifixion as the Sheikh said
Which seems to be the popular Muslim believe, how then can Muslims reconcile the Justice involved to the innocent person crucified on Jesus behalf as raised by Sheikh Imran Hosein in this video?

Since both Christians and Muslims believe Jesus was condemned to die, What then do the Muslims believe happened to Jesus himself on the day Jesus was condemned to die since unlike most Christians, Muslims don't believe he was crucified or died in any form?

1. Islam teaches that Jesus was not crucified nor was he killed.

2. Anything that happens on the cross happened as Allah wills it to be. It appeared to the people as if Jesus was crucified but he wasn't. And wasn't John beheaded too.

3. The belief that Simon of Cyrene was crucified instead of Jesus was mainly held by certain Gnostic sects like the Basilideans and Carpocratians, as well as by Docetists who denied Jesus' physical suffering around the second century.

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by AntiisIam(m): 2:43pm On Apr 07

Expanse2020:
My ISA (peace be unto him) is very much alive coming back to kill the messiah and give good tilding to Muslims ...

Why this statement from you then since your Isa is alive and never tasted ded

Expanse2020:
I Neva heard or a person wey never died since he was born expect Elijah

Dey reason and think very well before typing next time

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by Expanse2020(m): 2:58pm On Apr 07

[quote author=AntiisIam post=139022121]Why this statement from you then since your Isa is alive and never tasted ded

[s]Dey reason and think very well before typing next time[/quote[/s]]
In the first instance my ISA peace be upon him didn't die rather he was lifted up and he will descend back soon ..
Don't misquoted yourself or get ahead of yourself...Mug🫥un ...

Your own lord die and wake up...
My prophet didn't die he was take up and will be back on earth .. there is a difference there .🤣🤣🤣

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by chimex38: 4:47pm On Apr 07

AntiChristian:
How can one person become some Muslims?

Once again, it is one Muslim's opinion you brought not opinions (Plural).

1. he obviously has followers and adherents and you know this and how teachers and preachers operate across religions lines.

2. The fact the thought exists
shows he may not just be the only one, he's just a pointer to others sheikhs or private believers who may exist.
everything can't just be on the internet or probably out of my reach.

3. Dont reduce the obvious physical reality and possibility to some English nuances and linguistic semantics just to feed your ego to be right.

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by AntiisIam(m): 4:50pm On Apr 07

Expanse2020:
In the first instance my ISA peace be upon him didn't die rather he was lifted up and he will descend back soon ..

dẹpẹ, you never answer me

Why this statement from you then since your Isa is alive and never tasted ded

Expanse2020:
I Neva heard or a person wey never died since he was born expect Elijah

So you never heard of your Isa too abi?

Dey reason and think very well before typing next time

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by Expanse2020(m): 8:40pm On Apr 07

AntiisIam:
dẹpẹ, you never answer me

Why this statement from you then since your Isa is alive and never tasted ded

So you never heard of your Isa too abi?

Gambari I don answer you on it unless blindness don pkai ur eyes

Dey reason and think very well before typing next time

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by AntiisIam(m): 8:37pm On Apr 08

Expanse2020:
...

Koye e mo abi

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by AntiisIam(m): 8:45pm On Apr 08

Expanse2020:
Gambari I don answer you on it unless blindness don pkai ur eyes

Dẹpẹ, ur palẹ ẹ wey dey Ilorin na Gambari, shey you no no nii?

You said you never heard of anyone wey never dye not until igbati mo reset ẹ ni o to mo wipe your alfa told you that Eesa never dye

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by Expanse2020(m): 8:56pm On Apr 08

AntiisIam:
Dẹpẹ, ur palẹ ẹ wey dey Ilorin na Gambari, shey you no no nii?

You said you never heard of anyone wey never dye not until igbati mo reset ẹ ni o to mo wipe your alfa told you that Eesa never dye

Werey where for dream or for your slave master mind where Dem talk say Jesus pkai 🤣🤣 that wọn na EAZUS naw one roman guy deguise as EZAU peace be upon him

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by Antiislaam(m): 9:08pm On Apr 08

Expanse2020:
No
Werey where for dream or for your slave master mind where Dem talk say Jesus pkai 🤣🤣 that wọn na EAZUS naw one roman guy deguise as EZAU peace be upon him

dẹpẹ, so o gbagbe oruko ati oriki palẹ ẹ abi

Shey allah tell you say he get children? Kini e lodo allah3

If I no lecture you, how you wan take no say your Isa never dye?

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by AntiChristian: 8:30am On Apr 09

chimex38:
1. he obviously has followers and adherents and you know this and how teachers and preachers operate across religions lines.

These ones we don't see in the video. You brought one Muslim and claim multiple Muslims that's simply a lie.

2. The fact the thought exists
shows he may not just be the only one, he's just a pointer to others sheikhs or private believers who may exist.
everything can't just be on the internet or probably out of my reach.

Just as some Christians in the 2nd century believe Jesus was never crucified and another person was in his place.

3. Dont reduce the obvious physical reality and possibility to some English nuances and linguistic semantics just to feed your ego to be right.

This is exactly what you are doing! Add bigotry!

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by chimex38: 9:58am On Apr 09

AntiChristian:
These ones we don't see in the video. You brought one Muslim and claim multiple Muslims that's simply a lie.

Lol.. keep on the denial. At least others can see it. I also posted his popularity and fellowship with images and links. So others reading the thread know it will definitely
be more than 1 Muslim who believe in such.
For someone with such popularity, publications international relations and a prolonged Islamic studies,
You and I know it can be inferred he will definitely have followers. And there are others sheikhs out there.

You don't need to mask your disgust or bitterness for such belief by denying it doesn't exist amongst some Muslims that some believe Jesus(Isa) was crucified.

Just as some Christians in the 2nd century believe Jesus was never crucified and another person was in his place.

Yes I agree some Gnostic Christians believe he wasnt crucified and despite that, I don't agree with them, I don't struggle to deny the reality that they exist like you're doing with yourself and Islam.

But its OK, some people try to project oneness and unison of one's belief in a public forum to defend it against another even if one know personally that differences exist within.

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by chimex38: 10:02am On Apr 09

AntiChristian:
This is exactly what you are doing! Add bigotry!

My point all along is some belief otherwise, which you are struggling not to admit grin

I am not forcing you to change your belief, just to see for yourself and admit(within yourself if not on a public forum due to ego) that DISCREPANCIES THAT ALIGNS WITH CHRISTIANS EXISTS AMONGST SOME ISLAMIC RELIGION PRACTITIONERS THAT JESUS(ISA) WAS CRUCIFIED so you don't come to a Christian thread to kinda mock their crucifixion and death belief of Jesus as though the Islamic religion is 100% in unison, when infact some are not as proven with my video for the rest of Nairalanders reading in future.

you are the one that seem to be in denial here and thus subtly promoting bigotry , for denying popularity and learned nature of the islamic Scholar with publications and international exposure, desperately using English grammar nuances, accusing me of "holy spirit" revelation, despite my physical proof, now "bigotry"..

I have brought proof but you struggle with it with obvious deflections..

Re: Defeating Death Like A Boss (picture) by chimex38: 10:19am On Apr 09

I don't need to go searching for others with varying opinions on Jesus death because I know that SOME exists amongst the Islamic religion just as SOME Christians do not believe in Jesus' crucifixion.

But others reading this post can research on SHEIKH IMRAN HOSEIN a
Muslim and scholar on Islamic studies who preached Islamic and also led Islamic prayers at the highest governing body in the World-The UNITED NATIONS for 10 years!!! and see his popularity, publications, international exposure and learned level on Qur'an and Islamic studies and find out he must definitely have followers which justifies my use of SOME MUSLIMS which is hard for some people to admit
(maybe on a public forum)

I understand either ego or blind defense of religion which is popular across various stauch Religious adherents. It's OK, it's difficult to be fully open minded on belief systems especially on religions matters.

I understand the blind defence and refusal to accept publicly that some things exists even with proof as sometimes it pierces foundations of one's Faith.
But it doesn't mean you should change your belief but open enough to come to terms @least within oneself that the reality exists while still maintaining what you choose to believe.

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