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Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by mustykenzy(m): 12:18pm On Apr 12
Religion is a tool to indoctrinate and control the mind and thinking of people, so submit to a particular ideology or fear… remember both Christianity and Islam came to Africa through slavery… never forget your roots.
My Ancestors I know 💯
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Humphrey1111: 12:57pm On Apr 12
Christianity amd Islam is pagan as long as Nigeria is concerned. The traditions of the forefathers is the legit one. We'll turn around what colonialism came to destroy
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by jaxxy(m): 1:10pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
Only through The God of heaven and the Earth. The creator of the universe, can we have the will and power to focus on all these things you mentioned.

Man can do nothing without God. His thoughts are continually evil. And so it needs to be cleansed and separated from Pagan practices and traditions, etc, to achieve all those
Definite pagan practices and traditions? is having a circular jobs and interests pegan?
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 1:39pm On Apr 12
Humanity442:
Sir, what do you think of secular (not wordly) music. They don't necessarily preach "soul salvation", but they can reflect love, politics, games and the likes. Is it evil to engage in such?
It is advisable to be careful when it comes to music...

To be frank, most of all these worldly events are arrows of Satan to distract us from our main purpose, which is God .....
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 1:43pm On Apr 12
zinaunreal:
Oga no dey disturb people's traditional beliefs
Carry your Christianity go side
No problem... But no carry ogogoro go give one Iron God, and carry Bible tomorrow call yourself Child of God o
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 1:46pm On Apr 12
JooEeL:
I will never betray the way of my ancestors for that of their conquerors and slavemasters. May we never be so shameful!
The way of the ancestors is damnation. All the ancestors died with their false worship of false gods, and may the Lord have mercy on their souls.

Jesus is the only way to enlightenment. Jesus is the only way to God, our Creator and Father
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 1:46pm On Apr 12
occfx:
This is deceptive and I didn't bother to read the details.

Tradition is a constituted authority and you can be truthful, follow the right way and life in tradition.
I said Pagan traditions that does not glorify God
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by zinaunreal(m): 1:47pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
No problem... But no carry ogogoro go give one Iron God, and carry Bible tomorrow call yourself Child of God o
Stop forcing religion on people guy
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 1:49pm On Apr 12
Demigod22:
There's something about religious people that baffled me all day. The moment an individual calls himself a born again Christian or Muslim, you started seeing how far sense is far from them. They start behaving and talking like APC members.

What's the need for validation in a society that allows freedom of worship? As a Christian, don't mess, as a Christian, don't laugh, as a Christian don't climb bike, everyday. But as a Christian you can hide from your landlord, as a Christian you can lie to your boss to avoid going to work that day, as a Christian you can disturb others in a vehicle by preaching as if you don't know address to your church alter.

Religion is a man's creation to give his soul a purpose and consolation. As a Christian, why don't you relocate to the North so that bandits can help you go live in your mansion in heaven.

All these hypocrites, talking gibberish.

OP

Whether masquerade, New yam festival, Eid, Easter or Christmas.

We are all selective sinners. We choose the sins we are comfortable with and judge others for the ones we are not comfortable with.

If we should go by the standard of Christianity, even Pope and you will never make heaven.

PS: The word " PAGAN" is a Latin word Paganus which means a villager or civilian.

In the 4th century, the Roman Catholic in Rome started using the word to describe non Catholic.

If we should go by the religious meaning of the word PAGAN, any Christian who is not Catholic nor Anglican is a pagan, including all your Daddy G.Os and yourself.
A sinner is not a Christian, and a Christian is not a sinner.

Anybody doing evil , being an hypocrite, selective sins etc, is only Deceiving themselves, as you cannot deceive God or ourselves.

On the Last day, such people will hear , "Depart from me, I know you not".

Let's not get it twisted
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 1:50pm On Apr 12
simpleseyi:
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Go and focus one your life
You shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 1:53pm On Apr 12
Harnny:
They really did Africa dirty. Same religions that believed in saints said invoking our ancestors is fetish. Same religion that believe in angels and Jesus as a way to God said our deities are unclean. I am all for stopping human sacrifices butnis that all we used to be?. Our forefathers sing and dance to honor thier creator but how is that different from what is done in churches today?. Westerners simply put a name to everything. They did not teach us what we dont already know.
Jesus is not on my for the Jews.

Salvation is for the whole world.

Our forefathers and Ancestors had a lot of errors and ignorance and God may overlook.(amen)... But now, we have information, what excuse will you give to God as to why you can't be His Child?

And to come to God you must be stainless, blameless and holy ... Only Jesus can make all these possible for humans
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Guestmale: 1:53pm On Apr 12
Mattswaggz:
Lol...... religion serving one of it's main objective (division).

Imagine humans focusing on all this instead of bilateral relationships, growth, peace and unity.
This is a misconception, christians are to live in peace with all his or her neighbors and seek their goodness irrespective of their religion but there is a red line a christian can not cross, like joining them in worshipping their gods or deity.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 1:57pm On Apr 12
chimex38:
Please explain how celebration of harvest via New yam festival doesn't glorify God?
The New Yam Festival (Ịri Ji Ọhụrụ) in Igboland primarily honors the earth goddess (Ala) and the deity of agriculture/yam (often called Njoku Ji or Ahiajoku) - Wikipedia
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Afrojuju2017(m): 2:01pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
Any Culture or tradition, that does not glorify God is already satanic and immoral.

As Christians, true children of God, we are to separate ourselves from such practices -
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,


You cannot call yourself a Christian and you do Masquerade, you do Ifa, you do New yam festival, You do Amadioha , You do Ogun, you do Ojude Oba, You do Raping culture festivals... You may not attend but you sponsor and support with you money...

As a child of God, A Christian, going to church with Bible, you must choose one, whether you follow God or follow the traditions of men inspired by the devil and His agents. See what Apostle Paul wrote about his own-
Galatians 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,


God had to separate him from all those traditions.

Remember the day you accepted Jesus, is the Day you decide to follow Him and do the will of God. May the Lord help us

And if you are still blinded by traditions and Cultures, Remember none of them can connect you to God. Jesus has paid the final price. Anything outside Jesus Christ leads you to damnation.

May the Lord bless and save us. Amen
OP you failed to mention Christmas which is definitely a pagan tradition.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Afrojuju2017(m): 2:02pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
I'm not preaching Religion to you bro.

God has no religion. Yes we need Hid divine help. All through as you rightly stated. However you can only get this divine help by following after the principles of God, and to be able to do this, the divine help one needs is only found through Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I preach Jesus Christ. Not religion.
God has no religion but you have in your OP attacked cultural practices which have no connection to religion such as Ojude Oba
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 2:03pm On Apr 12
latiephwald:
They don't even know they are celebrating pagans festivals. Such as Christmas, new year etc. maybe they even have knowledge of what are named after their calendar.
Pls tell me what these months means.
January-December. Name of Pagans Idols

You'll understand that everything you do from worshipping Jesus as God to everything that associated with Christianity was products of Pagans.

The world Christianity was coined out by pagans and Can't be found in word of God.

You need to seek for knowledge individually. Don't rely on what you pastors teaches, you can always get the best knowledge when you submit yourself to learning individually. Go through research, ask your AI chat deep questions. You'll understand what Christianity and pagans mean.
Firstly, for things of God, AI is not needed and cannot explain the rudiments of God. Christians have the Holy Spirit, which is greater than any knowledge on earth.

2nd Christianity was mentioned in the Book of Acts in the Bible. The people of Antioch in Greece called Jesus disciples, Christians, because they saw the life of Jesus in them.

To be a Christian is to be like Jesus Christ.

Finally, yes Pagan traditions were almost those days, however the early Christians had to put up Christianity events on those days to discourage idol worship and false religion, and hence the tradition continues. So instead of worshipping Apollo(fake god) on Sunday, we Christians go to church to worship Yahweh, the creator of the universe
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 2:04pm On Apr 12
ednut1:
Mumu talk. Is Christmas not originally a pagan festival? So why do u partake in it?
Is it still a pagan religion??
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Kushites: 2:05pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
Any Culture or tradition, that does not glorify God is already satanic and immoral.

As Christians, true children of God, we are to separate ourselves from such practices -
2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,


You cannot call yourself a Christian and you do Masquerade, you do Ifa, you do New yam festival, You do Amadioha , You do Ogun, you do Ojude Oba, You do Raping culture festivals... You may not attend but you sponsor and support with you money...

As a child of God, A Christian, going to church with Bible, you must choose one, whether you follow God or follow the traditions of men inspired by the devil and His agents. See what Apostle Paul wrote about his own-
Galatians 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.
1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,


God had to separate him from all those traditions.

Remember the day you accepted Jesus, is the Day you decide to follow Him and do the will of God. May the Lord help us

And if you are still blinded by traditions and Cultures, Remember none of them can connect you to God. Jesus has paid the final price. Anything outside Jesus Christ leads you to damnation.

May the Lord bless and save us. Amen
AFRICANS, THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE CHRISTIANITY WAS INVENTED BY ROMANS TO PACIFY THEIR SUBJECTS WITH A DUBIOUS, NON-EXISTENT "Son of God", with ZERO EVIDENCE OF HIS EXISTENCE ON THIS EARTH......WERE KNOWN, BASED ON THEIR TRADITIONAL SPIRITUALITY, AS "THE BLAMELESS AETHIOPIANS", DUE TO THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

YOUR IMPORTED RELIGION IS BUT ROMAN PROPAGANDA.

AND PLEASE.....TELL YOUR COLONIAL "MASTER" THAT AFRICANS KNEW GOD 200,000 YEARS BEFORE WHITE PEOPLE EXISTED, AND THEREFORE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS NO HELLFIRE, NO DEVIL, NO SPECIAL "SON OF GOD", AND THAT WE ARE ETERNAL BEINGS WHO, UPON LEAVING THIS WORLD, RETURN HOME TO THE LAND OF THE ANCESTORS, REGARDLESS OF OUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OR LACK THEREOF, WITH OUT FULL AWARENESS, EXPANDED CONSCIOUSNESS, AND THE REGAINED MEMORY OF OUR IMMORTALITY AND POWER.

A FACT THAT IS BEING CONFIRMED TODAY BY THE ACCOUNTS OF NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TO THE OTHER SIDE UPON CLINICAL DEATH, AND SEEN THAT WE ARE ALL POWERFUL IMMORTAL BEINGS LOVED BY THE ALMIGHTY, WHO DOES NOT DEMAND WORSHIP, CONTRARY TO YOUR IMPORTED ROMAN FALSEHOODS.

SO TAKE YOUR IMPORTED ROMAN PROPAGANDA YOU CALL YOUR "HOLY BOOK", AND THROW IT IN THE DUSTBIN WHERE IT BELONGS.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 2:05pm On Apr 12
stuffs2002:
obonujoker

* Do you realise that Christmas is pegan festival
* Do you also realise that new year is also a pegan festival
* What about going to church on Sundays? Jesus Christ did not go to church on Sunday.
* Jesus Christ never attended any church in his life time
Jesus attended the synagogue during His days on earth.

We go to church to learn and practice Jesus words and life while he was on earth which are documented in the Bible.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 2:07pm On Apr 12
dederocs:
You are just a pawn. Learn how Christianity religion was formed by Constantinople, a Roman leader. Jesus did not intend for Christians to turn what he stood for into religion, because religion divide the people, Jesus did not start any religion in his time, he was born a Jew, Jesus preached spirituality and truth not religion. You are still at the surface, read and do more study to free your mind from enslavement.

All religions is idolising men (prophets), that lived in the past, using symbols , cross, crescent, stone, statue of Mary, Jesus etc...same thing polytheist do, that are tagged 'pagans' today. Most religious people are just hypocrites but a lot have low IQ, they can't even see what stares them in the face.
True Christians (believers) in Christ Jesus don't idolise anyone or anything as god. We worship the God that created heaven and the earth through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who died and resurrected and connected us back to God
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 2:10pm On Apr 12
GodPunishOsu:
Don't be Yoruba Christian then, because we will never allow Igbo type of Christianity among us,just as we wont allow Hausa/Fulani type of islam among us if you can't eat salah meat as Christians and eat Christmas chicken as a Muslim,please South west is not meant for you.
There is nothing like Yoruba Christian, or Hausa Christian or Igbo Christian or Calabar Christian or American or china Christian.

A Christian is a person who follows Jesus Christ and accepts Him as the Lord and personal saviour regardless of Race, tribe or country

Please there's nothing like such in Christianity.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 2:13pm On Apr 12
Afrojuju2017:
God has no religion but you have in your OP attacked cultural practices which have no connection to religion such as Ojude Oba
I didn't attack cultural practices Sir.

I just wrote that you cannot call yourself a Christian and still practice traditions that does not glorify God almighty, but smaller fake gods
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 2:13pm On Apr 12
zinaunreal:
Stop forcing religion on people guy
We are not forcing it Sir, the truth must be told

So that people can be free, and know the truth
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Kushites: 2:16pm On Apr 12
THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE THE COLONIAL INVASIONS, AFRICANS WERE KNOWN TO THE ANCIENT GREEKS AND ROMANS AS "THE BLAMELESS AETHIOPIANS".

Incredible history:

"GOD'S PEOPLE: THE BLAMELESS AETHIOPIANS"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxNtL3UUqRA?si=4PuOmDupamk_-sYq
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by focus7: 2:18pm On Apr 12
dederocs:
What have Nigeria gained from the two popular religions today?

One is influencing terrorists, the other is fleecing Nigerians of their time and economic resources...not against religion, but I believe in cost/benefit analysis.

Traditionalism will unify us around our African essence, unite our spirit and purpose and aspirations, this is how nations develop, this is why China is developing, united under Buddhism, which has been the traditions of their progenitors, and China is developing, we here are replacing our culture with foreign culture and where are we today?
It's over 8 years I stopped going to church, and ever since, my life has been better defined and focused, I don't have any regrets for that decision and action.. Let those who chooses to go be going in peace and let them leave us that are not going alone to enjoy our peace too
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by zinaunreal(m): 2:24pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
We are not forcing it Sir, the truth must be told

So that people can be free, and know the truth
Which truth? Colonizer worshipper. So traditional religion na lie na. Add sense to your ingredients. Abgi
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by GodHimself(m):
Pagan traditions are already part and parcel of many present day Christian practices.

obonujoker:
Only through The God of heaven and the Earth. The creator of the universe, can we have the will and power to focus on all these things you mentioned.

Man can do nothing without God. His thoughts are continually evil. And so it needs to be cleansed and separated from Pagan practices and traditions, etc, to achieve all those

Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Kushites: 2:31pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
I didn't attack cultural practices Sir.

I just wrote that you cannot call yourself a Christian and still practice traditions that does not glorify God almighty, but smaller fake gods
My friend will you SHUT UP.

Mr "GLORIFY".

Where did God tell you to "GLORIFY" him?

Is he a child?

Is he a megalomaniac?

You just read something in some foolish imported book from thieves and plunderers of your ancestors' land, and parrot it like a robot.

Those deities you call "fake gods" are historically seen as HELPERS of God, similar to how you view "Angels" in your imported faith, and are more directly involved in human interaction in daily life, with only insurmountable problems taken before the Supreme Being.

WHO ARE YOU OR ANY WHITE MAN TO CRITICISE THIS 200,000 YEAR OLD SPIRITUAL BELIEF SYSTEM?

WHO ARE YOU?
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Mattswaggz: 2:42pm On Apr 12
Guestmale:
This is a misconception, christians are to live in peace with all his or her neighbors and seek their goodness irrespective of their religion but there is a red line a christian can not cross, like joining them in worshipping their gods or deity.
All this sugarcoating you're doing wouldn't change the fact that religion is still divisive.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by GodHimself(m):
Correct.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by latiephwald: 3:16pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
Firstly, for things of God, AI is not needed and cannot explain the rudiments of God. Christians have the Holy Spirit, which is greater than any knowledge on earth.

2nd Christianity was mentioned in the Book of Acts in the Bible. The people of Antioch in Greece called Jesus disciples, Christians, because they saw the life of Jesus in them.

To be a Christian is to be like Jesus Christ.

Finally, yes Pagan traditions were almost those days, however the early Christians had to put up Christianity events on those days to discourage idol worship and false religion, and hence the tradition continues. So instead of worshipping Apollo(fake god) on Sunday, we Christians go to church to worship Yahweh, the creator of the universe
Why is seeking knowledge a difficult task for Christians? Instead, they attached everything to holy Spirit. Why can't you read as far back as possible? History is there to tell you what you need to know about Christianity, yet you chose holy Spirit. May you all be free from the boundage of GOs who has brainwashed you.
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