shahydbinaliyu:
Mathew
18
Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
kagw de soi legw oti su ei petroV kai epi tauth th
petra oikodomhsw mou thn ekklhsian kai pulai adou
ou katiscusousin authV


The purpose of this paper is to show that the early
translators of the English Bible mistranslated the
word " ekklesia" using the English word "church"
instead of "assembly" or "congregation." This
translation has helped promote the false doctrine of a
universal or world wide church, a hierarchical
authority over the local congregation, and the church
as being a building

abbacar:
guy if u like type from here to mecca.....u religion is a one way religion .....its a religion of mans love and faithfullness TO god as shown by propht mohammed (pbuh) nothing from God to man only damnation.if u dont do his will BUT
our way of life (christainity) is a two way relationship, a communion, a fellowship. its a practice of love and faithfullnes between GOD and his DEDICATED PEOPLE....where he shows us LOVE and MERCY and asks.us to do the same to our NEIGHBOURS ...irrespective of who they are.....that is why when we devoted christain call upon the name of GOD through CHRIST JESUS (P.O.P- prince of peace, O.B.S.O.G- only begotten son of GOD)...he hears and answers us.....GOD is all knowing, all powerfull..... he says those who know their GOD will do exploits....i know my GOD...JESUS (p.o.p, o.b.s.o.g) said ask the father of anything in my name and ye shall have it....the evidence is not just in the testimony of the bible but in my own very life.....i saw my mother recieve a miracle...saved from the clutches of death.....bleeding for 2 years... she was billed for a major operation to evacuate her womb and some stuff the doctors said....all stoped as we called fervently on the name of the lord in righteousnes through christ JESUS(P.O.P, O. B.S.O.G)....if through that name my mother was healled , bleeding stopped, everything became normal...operation cancelled....this is five years after......what OTHER prove do i need to know and believe JESUS (P.O.P) is the only beggotten son of GOD....
YOU are experiencing religion .....you need to experience GOD....thru CHRIST JESUS( p.o.p, o.b.s.o.g) is the fastest and surest way....EXPERIENCE GOD

abbacar:

we christain know that the church is the body of christ .....not the building but the people.....its in the bible...u cant teach what you dont know.as he is the true vine we a the branches.....
i see this as a way of convincing yourself about your religion .....let me help you....say this prayer with an open heart...
LORD JESUS I COME TO YOU WITH AN OPEN HEART, SEEKING THE TRUTH AND KNOWLEDGE OF GOD....IF TRULY YOU ARE THE SON OF GOD AND LIGHT OF THE WORLD ....SHOW YOUR SELF TO ME ..REVEAL YOUR LIGHT IN ME...IN JESUS NAME I PRAY AMEN....……
if you said dis prayer ...watch as he shows you his peace...experience GOD

shahydbinaliyu:
If the Christians and the Jews look at how the prophets
had prayed in the torah and the gospel, they will find
themselves praying like Muslims.
Now we will compare the prayer of the Muslims with
the prophets in the bible..
Let us begin:
-Muslims (those who submit to the will of God)
perform ablution (wash) before prayer.
Then David arose from the earth and washed and
anointed himself and changed his clothes. And he went
into the house of the LORD and worshiped (Samuel
12:20)
They shall wash their hands and their feet (Exodus
30:21)
31with which Moses and Aaron and his sons washed
their hands and their feet. (Exodus 40:31)
-The first position of prayer, Muslims lift up their
hands palms out at the side of the head 4So I will bless
you as long as I live;
in your name I will lift up my hands. (Psalm 63:4)
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and all the
people answered,(A) “Amen, Amen,”(B) lifting up their
hands. And they bowed their heads and worshiped the
LORD with their faces to the ground.(Nehemiah 8:6)
-Muslims while lifting up their hands proclaim: “God is
Great”
Great is the LORD and greatly to be praised
in the city of our God!
His holy mountain, (Psalm 48:1)
– when the Muslims pray, they fell on their faces.
Then Abram fell on his face. And God said to him
(Genesis 17:3)
Then Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the
assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell
on their faces. And the glory of the LORD appeared to
them, (Numbers 20:6)
Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell to the earth on his
face before the ark of the LORD (Joshua 7:6).
When all the people of Israel saw the fire come down
and the glory of the LORD on the temple, they bowed
down with their faces to the ground (2 chronicles 7:3)
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and all the
people answered,(A) “Amen, Amen,”(B) lifting up their
hands.(C) And they bowed their heads and worshiped
the LORD with their faces to the ground.(Nehemiah
8:6)
Jesus praying to God:
”And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed
”( Matthew 26:39)
Even Jesus’ disciples submitted as Muslims:
“When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces
and were terrified”( Matthew 17:6)
And Elijah went up to the top of Mount Carmel, And he
bowed himself down on the earth and put his face
between his knees.(1 kings 18: 42 )
And all the angels were standing around the throne and
around the elders and the four living creatures, and they
fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,
(Revelations 7:11)
Oh come, let us worship and bow down;
let us kneel before the LORD, our Maker! (Psalm 95:6)
All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship;
before him shall bow all who go down to the dust
( Psalm 22:29)
Now Manoah and his wife were watching, and they fell
on their faces to the ground. (Judges 13:20)
And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces
and said, “The LORD, he is God; the LORD, he is God.
”( 1 kings 18:39)
David rose from beside the stone heap and fell on his
face to the ground( 1 Samuel 20: 41)
And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped
(Joshua 5:14)
When Abraham’s servant heard their words, he bowed
himself to the earth before the LORD.(Genesis 24:52)
Do you pray like the messengers of God have prayed?!
Bow down and prostrate to God and ask for guidance.
It’s God, alone, who can guide us .
May God reward us with the highest level of paradise

jcross19:
wow I can see the level a muslim man or woman can go to turn ignorance to lies ahahahhah lol just for the sake of allah to be in bible or mohammad you now post stain to your own faith,don't you know is a stain to you and to your knowledge if what you posted are true then a muslim scholar come out with a copy of that challenge the integrity of the bible. Shame on your knowledge.

shahydbinaliyu:


did Jesus ever attended church?

shahydbinaliyu:
according to Bible, how did Jesus worship God and how did he do pray to God

abbacar:

every thing jesus did he prayed first....
before he started his ministry on earth ...he prayed forty days with fasting...
when he wants to perform a miracle.he prayed to GOD saying father do it that your name be glorified..
he taught his disciples how to pray saying...
OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN HALLOWED BE THEIR NAME , THEIR KINGDOM COME , THEIR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESSPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO SIN AGAINST US AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BUT DELIVER US FROM EVERY EVIL. FOR THOU IS THE KINGDOM, THE POWER AND THE GLORY ARE YOURS NOW AND FOREVER MORE ..AMEN......
Before his crucifixion jesus was praying fervently asking God to give him the grace to carry out the dreadful task ahead....infact he was arrested during his prayer time.
he worshiped God every where he went .....when he was about to feed the multitude he worshiped.and praise God for who he is..the bible would say lifting his head towards heaven he prayed.....lifting his hands towards heaven the offered praise and thanksgiving
...

shahydbinaliyu:

Stephen Sarpong

The Aramaic Bible original with no changes

Aramaic Bible

John 3:16

For Allaha loved the world in this
way: so much that he would give up a Son, The One, so that
everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have
eternal life.

P.S. (where do you see is only begotten son in
this)

shahydbinaliyu:




all i want is a bible verse.. thanks

abbacar:

these are some times when jesus prayed...i even included the readings from the bible...ok

1. Mark 1:35

Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.

it's synonymous with morning prayer of Muslim


2. Matthew 6:9-13

"This, then, is how you should pray: "'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.'


it's synonymous with Surat fatiah of Muslim.. after reading that.. people and who reads will say amin.


3. Matthew 11:25-26

At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.

this is not a prayer nor worship.. it's recognizing the mightiness of God

4. Matthew 14:23
ٌ
After he had dismissed them, he went up on a mountainside by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone.

that's evening prayer.. synonymous with muslims

5. Luke 6:12

One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.

night prayer.. synonymous with Muslim


6. Luke 22:32

But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers."


that's not praying to God


7. Luke 22:41-44

He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.


he withdrew a stone throw.. that's the space between imam and congregation


8. Luke 23:34

Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.

that's not God prayer but praying for someone


9. John 11:41-42

So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, "Father, I thank you that you have heard me. I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me''.

after completing salat.. imam preaches to congregation


10. John 12:27-28

"Now my heart is troubled, and what shall I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'? No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour. Father, glorify your name!" Then a voice came from heaven, "I have glorified it, and will glorify it again."

that's fear prayer not God prayer


11. John 17:1-26

After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. "I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name--the name you gave me--so that they may be one as we are one. While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled. "I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified. "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. "Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them."


that's a sermon


they are many more prayers he did like when he raised lazarus from the dead in john11: 38-44

that's a miracle not God prayer

38. Jesus, intensely moved again, came to the tomb. (Now it was a cave, and a stone was placed across it.) 39. Jesus said, “Take away the stone.” Martha, the sister of the deceased, replied, “Lord, by this time the body will have a bad smell, because he has been buried four days.” 40. Jesus responded, “Didn’t I tell you that if you believe, you would see the glory of God?” 41. So they took away the stone. Jesus looked upward and said, “Father, I thank you that you have listened to me. 42. I knew that you always listen to me, but I said this for the sake of the crowd standing around here, that they may believe that you sent me.” 43. When he had said this, he shouted in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” 44. The one who had died came out, his feet and hands tied up with strips of cloth, and a cloth wrapped around his face. Jesus said to them, “Unwrap him and let him go.”
that's miracle

dis is prove enough......jesus was a prayer warrior...he said man ought to pray and not faint.

ProfessorPeter:
This your so called original Aramaic bible. Which version is that?
No matter how Islam want to justify their falsehood from the bible, it will always be remain a falsehood.
Allah in quran and biblical God is not the same.
Angel Gabriel in the d bible is quite different from quranic Angel Gabriel

shahydbinaliyu:



my question is how did Jesus pray to God and how does he worship God. prayer that's for God only.. it's synonymous with worship...

i will give you a verse to read out... that verse explains exactly how jesus do pray to God as in worship.. in the morning, evening, night and even how salat was performed In Bible..

Mathew 26:39... i will accompany it with Picture

abbacar:

in christainity there is no specific time for prayer ....jesus showed this by praying ceaselessly .....he said pray without ceasing dis he demonstrated by praying thrice during the night time in matt 26: 36 - 46..
"
36. Then Jesus went with them to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to his disciples, “Sit here, while I go over there and pray.” 37. And taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and troubled. 38. Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch[a] with me.” 39. And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” 40. And he came to the disciples and found them sleeping. And he said to Peter, “So, could you not watch with me one hour? 41. Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” 42. Again, for the second time, he went away and prayed, “My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.” 43. And again he came and found them sleeping, for their eyes were heavy. 44. So, leaving them again, he went away and prayed for the third time, saying the same words again. 45. Then he came to the disciples and said to them, “Sleep and take your rest later on. See, the hour is at hand, and the Son of Man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. 46. Rise, let us be going; see, my betrayer is at hand.”.
can you se he prayed for one hour at his first prayer and went back for more prayers.....he prayed ceaslessly

mk 14 :23...speaks of jesus going to the mountain to pray by noon remaining there praying till it was night time...this is to show you how long his prayer time was....
luke 6:12...talks about jesus praying all through the night....in christainity we are taught and by personal experience i believe night time prayer is very powerful time for prayer...cause this prayer is done with fasting....fasting from sleep....when all other men are sleeping u stay awake and pray...u starved ur body the sleep it requires to seek the face of God...jesus show the importance of night prayer in this verse of mt 13; 25
"But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way"
most evil are done in the deep of the night waging prayer during this time is very efficacious.....
as for matt 26 :39 ....there is no better way of falling on ones face than this pic below. this is highly practiced in christainity

shahydbinaliyu:





laughing.... which version? laughing... God word nor His holy book can never have different version.. people intentionally misinterpreted holy book.

do you know that Jesus language is Aramaic language? bible was written in Aramaic language

Greek Bible also exist.. Bible written in Greek. it's synonymous with Aramaic Bible.

don't you ever wonder why Bible has different versions?
Dont you ever wanna see the original scripture in which it was translated?
don't you ever wanna translate the original script yourself?

so many Bible, different translation, different amount of chapters..

ProfessorPeter:
so Jesus and his apostles called God Allah? Is Allah aramaic word for God.

shahydbinaliyu:



Aramaic scripture.. original language was translated into English.. and it's Allaha that it was translated too.. even Jesus isn't Jesus real name.. English translated his name to Jesus.. check the site.. you will see Jesus real name..

shahydbinaliyu:




laughing... go check Aramaic Bible for correct translation of that verse.. its not lieing down.. it's exactly like we muslims do

shahydbinaliyu:




laughing... go check Aramaic Bible for correct translation of that verse.. its not lieing down.. it's exactly like we muslims do

abbacar:

if u call a total physical act of submitting ones self flat before God ....an act DAT show humility.....that shows man as being GOD' possessions ...respect and outright fear of God's mightiness....as mere laying down ....then ma friend u have to be told....that ur position of prayer is as well a sexual position....(doggy)...
isnt it why your women are not put in the same room as you....even if they are they are put behind your male counterpart...all because the position will arouse sexual thought for men....
if truly your worship of God is of truth and in spirit then u guys wouldn't be aroused sexually.....ur prayers are crammed and recited verbatim no connection with God in spirit....a pure example of the hypocrite Jesus spoke about in the bible.....whose lips and hands shows evidence of prayer but whose heart are far from GOD.....
on a lighter note....even animals know that position is for MATING

abbacar:

so if ur fellow muslim is paralysed waist down , u mean he cant worship God..


ofcourse they can ... Allah tell us how they will worship HIM


..from what you are saying only those who hit their head on the floor truly worship God ....

hit their head? lol.. it's either you call it fall on face or prostration or bow.. jesus did exactly like that

what a wicked religion that segregates among its people....so this cripple and paralysed persons are as good as damned since they do no hit their head on the floor......please direct them to the next church ....Jesus teaches us to worship God in truth and spirit....by loving God and loving our neighbour...worshipping God fervently through our heart and thought....not by our body position, that only seek to satisfy man's judgement....God sees the heart of every man, it is through this our real intention are seen...not our outward demonstration and position.


you b olodo.. judging what you doing understand.. ..

ProfessorPeter:
so Jesus called God Allah?

shahydbinaliyu:



all i need to say to you has been said. accepting the truth relies on you. instead of finding the truth, you insulting me.. i pity you

shahydbinaliyu:

Stephen Sarpong

The Aramaic Bible original with no changes

Aramaic Bible

John 3:16

For Allaha loved the world in this
way: so much that he would give up a Son, The One, so that
everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have
eternal life.

P.S. (where do you see is only begotten son in
this)