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Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by dederocs(m): 8:21pm On Apr 12
lawani:
Killing people for God started with Christianity. Forceful conversion started with Christianity. Mohammed was obviously converted by non trinitarian Christians is why he believed in Jesus prophethood and virgin birth. Islam is a sect of Christianity merged with Meccan culture. If no Christianity there would have been no Islam
We are talking of now, these modern times... besides knight Templars were protecting merchant and the free world from rampaging ottoman empire, it was a response to the barbarity of the Ottomans... besides that was in barbaric times, since the 18th century no record of killings under Christianity. Stop supporting barbarity with useless argument. The muslim north is being destroyed because you people take 12th century culture and lifestyle to practice in this 2026. Unless you adapt and change,the north will completely destroy itself with barbarity.

Look at the north with sharia law, yet it produces all the terrorist in Nigeria.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by dederocs(m): 8:27pm On Apr 12
lawani:
Killing people for God started with Christianity. Forceful conversion started with Christianity. Mohammed was obviously converted by non trinitarian Christians is why he believed in Jesus prophethood and virgin birth. Islam is a sect of Christianity merged with Meccan culture. If no Christianity there would have been no Islam
Of course Islam copied some Christian texts, Abrahamic texts, this is the only similarity. The prophets are completely different. Jesus was an epitome of love, peace, forgiveness, sacrifice. Never compare the two, Islam only copied the Abrahamic verses, the two religion are as different as night and day, I have studied both. Christian doctrine is more sound, wiser and makes more sense...the Christian doctrine also inspires a peaceful world...no discrimination, no harsh words for unbelievers in the Christian Bible and no Christian laws, like you have sharia. The two are different. Have you read the Bible before, lol.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by lawani(m): 8:29pm On Apr 12
dederocs:
We are talking of now, these modern times... besides knight Templars were protecting merchant and the free world from rampaging ottoman empire, it was a response to the barbarity of the Ottomans... besides that was in barbaric times, since the 19th century no record of killings under Christianity. Stop supporting barbarity with useless argument.
If Muslims were ruling Christians would fight them. They are all the same. If protestants are ruling Catholics will fight them. The Shia Muslims will fight the Sunni. The Lord"s Resistance army or so is a Christian terrorist group and so was the IRA. Christian nations nowadays are more prosperous is the only difference and Muslim nations were like that during the dark ages. They were more civilized. You can't just rewrite history to say Christians are peaceful when they were absolutely not. Christian saints burnt over 100k people on the stakes in Europe during the inquisition for being witches. No Muslim atrocity can match that
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by dederocs(m): 8:32pm On Apr 12
lawani:
If Muslims were ruling Christians would fight them. They are all the same. If protestants are ruling Catholics will fight them. The Shia Muslims will fight the Sunni. The Lord"s Resistance army or so is a Christian terrorist group and so was the IRA. Christian nations nowadays are more prosperous is the only difference and Muslim nations were like that during the dark ages. They were more civilized. You can't just rewrite history to say Christians are peaceful when they were absolutely not. Christian saints burnt over 100k people on the stakes in Europe during the inquisition for being witches. No Muslim atrocity can match that
Nonsense gibberish, what you wrote there is not reason, just nonsense. Christians don't see religion as a competition but muslims do, Christianity preaches forgiveness and mercy. Not jihad, nobody is called infidel in the Bible, no demeaning words, or words that builds resentment and animosity in the Bible.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by oroje1(m): 8:35pm On Apr 12
True Christianity has no fault,it was after the death of Christ's faithful apostles that the great apostasy started happening courtesy of the merging of Christianity and the the secular world (the church being made a state religion in Rome) ,so the Roman Catholic church started this whole distortion of the truth,and that's why it's been hard for men like you to give Christianity a try...the whole thing have been middled up with falsehood...but please don't stop searching for the truth..
sonmvayina:
Exactly my point, Jesus is an idol.
Gods commandments is clear.
"Do not make the image or LIKENESS of anything in heaven or on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them"....
The Romans created a God in the image and likeness of a man, something found on earth for you to worship and you actually believe them.....
Continue
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by lawani(m): 8:36pm On Apr 12
dederocs:
Nonsense gibberish, what you wrote there is not reason, just nonsense. Christians don't see religion as a competition but muslims do, Christianity preaches forgiveness and mercy. Not jihad, nobody is called infidel in the Bible, no demeaning words, or words that builds resentment and animosity in the Bible.
If you have one million tithe payers, will you want the number to drop given that you have expenses? You are wrong that they are not competing for members.

In the Bible people are warned against being unequally yoked with unbelievers. Yes good morally upright people are dismissed as unbelievers in the Bible.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by dederocs(m): 8:44pm On Apr 12
lawani:
If you have one million tithe payers, will you want the number to drop given that you have expenses? You are wrong that they are not competing for members.

In the Bible people are warned against being unequally yoked with unbelievers. Yes good morally upright people are dismissed as unbelievers in the Bible.
That yoke means marriage, it's nothing compared to all the animosity and resentment the Islamic hadiths create, the animosity and resentment sharia create, the false sense of importance it creates in you people, is a big problem. Just look at north and south, it tells you that the Islamic ideology is ruining the north, call it extremism or whatever, but it's from the Islamic religion that all these terrorists learnt all these hate and animosity, and the north will burn to the ground, unless the ideology is changed to reflect forgiveness, love, peace as the Christian ideology does. There is hate naturally in man, man is evil naturally, so it is wise for religion to pacify man, to make him more forgiving and loving not turn him to a jihadists or create animosity in his heart by calling others infidels... nobody is competing with you people, religion is personal not a competition.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Demigod22: 9:39pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
I never said I'm not a sinner Sir.

Just that I know my son, I'm convicted of sin, and therefore I plead for God's mercy everyday I wake up and come back.

The difference between I and a pagan traditional worshipper is that I worship the true God by believing and accepting His only begotten Son as my Master, Lord and Saviour.

A pagan traditional worshipper honours fake gods and goddesses by participating in their rites. Which is wrong because it's all deception.
It is the grand delusions for me. This self righteous all knowing mindset, that your own imported religion is the right religion while others are worshippers of the wrong God.

In modern English, the word PAGAN is slandering. The word pagan is religious profiling. Worship your own God and respect others with their choices. You have no moral ground to call others out for doing masquerade, it is what their fathers did long before the thieves came with Bible to brainwashed others like you.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by xtianchris(m): 9:49pm On Apr 12
uzhiyeka:
Christ is an actor in a book used by our slave masters to brainwash some certain group of people called christians who refuse to think by themselves
. hahaha
Badt Guy 🤓🤓
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 9:52pm On Apr 12
GodPunishOsu:
There is,Yoruba Christian share nothing in common with igbo Christian just as Yoruba Muslim share nothing in common with fulani muslim.Igbo Christian is southern version of Fulani Muslim.they are all fanatics
This is no discrimination in Christianity.

A Christian I Nigeria is a Christian in Japan, china, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa... Anything otherwise, such a person is not a Christian
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 9:53pm On Apr 12
Demigod22:
It is the grand delusions for me. This self righteous all knowing mindset, that your own imported religion is the right religion while others are worshippers of the wrong God.

In modern English, the word PAGAN is slandering. The word pagan is religious profiling. Worship your own God and respect others with their choices. You have no moral ground to call others out for doing masquerade, it is what their fathers did long before the thieves came with Bible to brainwashed others like you.
He that has ears, let him hear!!
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 9:55pm On Apr 12
dederocs:
See where the division is...so those that have no personal relationship are condemned right?

Jesus message was not about this. You people get it wrong.
John 3:16
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 9:56pm On Apr 12
Humanity442:
Sir, I don't think you have yet answered the question. What do you think of secular (not wordly) music like African Queen by 2Face. They don't necessarily preach "soul salvation", but they can reflect love, politics, games and the likes. Is it evil to engage in such?
Any song that does not draw you close to God, as a Christian, one should do away with it.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 9:58pm On Apr 12
uzhiyeka:
Please no bad energy... Without sentiment what has really change since the dead of Jesus Christ on the cross??
Many people are being saved from the coming wrath of God
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 10:00pm On Apr 12
JooEeL:
U go explain tire!
He that has ears, let him; hear
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 10:01pm On Apr 12
uzhiyeka:
Christ is an actor in a book used by our slave masters to brainwash some certain group of people called christians who refuse to think by themselves
Hope you are ready to give account of your words when you meet the king of glory?
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Afrojuju2017(m): 10:13pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
I didn't attack cultural practices Sir.

I just wrote that you cannot call yourself a Christian and still practice traditions that does not glorify God almighty, but smaller fake gods
Traditions that do not glorify God from your perspective, there is no place in the bible that your claim is explicitly stated.
I've lived in a Catholic dominated country for coming on 3 decades and I can tell you what you call pagan celebrations which they have observed from the middle ages continue to be present in their cultural practices such as Christmas.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Harnny(m): 10:32pm On Apr 12
obonujoker:
Jesus is not on my for the Jews.

Salvation is for the whole world.

Our forefathers and Ancestors had a lot of errors and ignorance and God may overlook.(amen)... But now, we have information, what excuse will you give to God as to why you can't be His Child?

And to come to God you must be stainless, blameless and holy ... Only Jesus can make all these possible for humans
Says what? A book whose origin you know nothing about?
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by erniok(m): 10:36pm On Apr 12
dederocs:
That screenshot is talking about Spanish word for Christianity, cristianamos, different from what am saying.

My point is, this organised Christian religion as practiced today, with it's Christmas and Easter holidays etc, was sanctioned by Constantinople, and Roman Catholic church was the first church under the organised Christian religion...you are talking about syntax and word translation... before the creation by Constantinople the word Christianity was never been used.

I have nothing against Christian religion, this whole discussion started because of the bashing of traditional culture. I respect Christians because they are peaceful and they are no Christian terrorists etc. I have lots of Christian friends.
Still wrong. Christianity predates Constantine.
This has got nothing to do with you having friends who are Christians but peddling falsehood.

Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by simpleseyi: 11:09pm On Apr 12
erniok:
And you are so focused on yours and belive so much you're doing so much better than him abi?
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Far much more better than you my brethren. I am not mocking you, I can’t even try it, because I cannot mock those whom God hasn’t blessed as much as HE has blessed me, but I am telling you the truth, just as I tell my children. Go and focus on your life
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by erniok(m): 1:23am On Apr 13
simpleseyi:
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Far much more better than you my brethren. I am not mocking you, I can’t even try it, because I cannot mock those whom God hasn’t blessed as much as HE has blessed me, but I am telling you the truth, just as I tell my children. Go and focus on your life
Audio blessing grin grin grin, keep faking it until you make it. Clown.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by babajero(m): 9:48am On Apr 13
xtianchris:
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Who's Christ and who are Christians ?
I'm here to learn okay. No Bad blood
you asking about Christ shows that you have read about Christ, while Christians are those who lives like or strive to live like Christ.
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by Dafresh: 10:46am On Apr 13
obonujoker:
Many people will fall by the way Side.

Yes God didn't create religion. He only created a way to come to Him and abide in Him, and that way is through the Lord Jesus Christ.
Show me a video where God told you to go through Jesus in order to meet him
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by xtianchris(m): 12:49pm On Apr 13
babajero:
you asking about Christ shows that you have read about Christ, while Christians are those who lives like or strive to live like Christ.
Yes bro you are clever...
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by sonmvayina(m): 1:50pm On Apr 13
oroje1:
True Christianity has no fault,it was after the death of Christ's faithful apostles that the great apostasy started happening courtesy of the merging of Christianity and the the secular world (the church being made a state religion in Rome) ,so the Roman Catholic church started this whole distortion of the truth,and that's why it's been hard for men like you to give Christianity a try...the whole thing have been middled up with falsehood...but please don't stop searching for the truth..
The truth is what I stated.
God gave the nations laws to guide our human journey. He gave the Jews the Torah, we the igbos he gave odinala/Omenala, to guide us..it's an everlasting covenant.
It was the Romans who created Jesus and Christianity. It never started in Israel. No jew will start a movement contrary toGods laws, when he/she knows the consequences..
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by sonmvayina(m): 1:51pm On Apr 13
erniok:
How did the Romans create God.
They created Jesus and called him God. Jesus the so called God is supposed to be a man, isn't it??
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by sonmvayina(m): 1:53pm On Apr 13
obonujoker:
In the book of Isaiah the old testament, Jesus was prophesied to come
Show me the place, I will credit you #500k
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by obonujoker(op): 2:12pm On Apr 13
sonmvayina:
Show me the place, I will credit you #500k
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Read also Isaiah 53:1-12
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by erniok(m): 2:22pm On Apr 13
sonmvayina:
They created Jesus and called him God. Jesus the so called God is supposed to be a man, isn't it??
How did they create Jesus or you guys don't understand the term create?
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by oroje1(m): 4:02pm On Apr 13
And who's the God who gave human different ways of worshipping him knowing quite well that that would cause confusion.... speaking biblically, God has always had one way of guiding those who he chooses.from Abraham to the nation of Israel,and when he rejected the Israelites it's only through Christianity...the African religions you mentioned are all demon worshippers
sonmvayina:
The truth is what I stated.
God gave the nations laws to guide our human journey. He gave the Jews the Torah, we the igbos he gave odinala/Omenala, to guide us..it's an everlasting covenant.
It was the Romans who created Jesus and Christianity. It never started in Israel. No jew will start a movement contrary toGods laws, when he/she knows the consequences..
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by lawani(m): 5:25pm On Apr 13
oroje1:
And who's the God who gave human different ways of worshipping him knowing quite well that that would cause confusion.... speaking biblically, God has always had one way of guiding those who he chooses.from Abraham to the nation of Israel,and when he rejected the Israelites it's only through Christianity...the African religions you mentioned are all demon worshippers
They are demon worshippers but we had nobody killing over God, raping and etc until the God worshippers arrived around 2000 years ago
Re: You Can't Be A Christian And Still Join In Pagan Traditions by sonmvayina(m): 6:02pm On Apr 13
oroje1:
And who's the God who gave human different ways of worshipping him knowing quite well that that would cause confusion.... speaking biblically, God has always had one way of guiding those who he chooses.from Abraham to the nation of Israel,and when he rejected the Israelites it's only through Christianity...the African religions you mentioned are all demon worshippers
Maybe your ancestors were demon worshippers, mine were not. We follow the divine laws given to our ancestors by God our Creator. That law has been passed down by words of mouth from generation to generation.
The Romans created Jesus as an insult to God. Christianity is an aberration. It is idolatry/human sacrifice what God forbids and calls an abomination.
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