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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 7:10am On Apr 14
eph12:
Most of these players here were not bad players. Who do you want to compare them with?
What are you even saying?

If it was 2026 that the coach was playing Rafael and Fabio as wingers, una nor go don call for the head of INEOS?

If na now Park dey play Right Back or a CB pairing of Case and Ugarte lined up today, una go even gree any other excuse?

Abi you nor see the pictures wey I post?

You probably were not watching our games back then

The point here is that Fergie had selection issues yet found a way to manage the situation and grind out important wins.

2026, a £400m+ squad struggled against 15th placed Leeds at Old Trafford and the immediate solution is transfer window.

Haba
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:18am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
What are you even saying?

If it was 2026 that the coach was playing Rafael and Fabio as wingers, una nor go don call for the head of INEOS?

If na now Park dey play Right Back or a CB pairing of Case and Ugarte lined up today, una go even gree any other excuse?

Abi you nor see the pictures wey I post?

You probably were not watching our games back then

The point here is that Fergie had selection issues yet found a way to manage the situation and grind out important wins.

2026, a 400m+ squad struggled against 15th placed Leeds at Old Trafford and the immediate solution is transfer window.

Haba
That's Pep's solution, why is it a problem for us? You can't spend 400m badly and expect the players to just turn up because you spent 400m.

Park was an utility player that could run all games. Why are you comparing Case at his current age to players like Rafael and Fabio in their young age ready to run all game? Case in his young age would do a good job at the CB. Please delete Ugarte. He is not better than Gibson
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:20am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
What are you even saying?

If it was 2026 that the coach was playing Rafael and Fabio as wingers, una nor go don call for the head of INEOS?

If na now Park dey play Right Back or a CB pairing of Case and Ugarte lined up today, una go even gree any other excuse?

Abi you nor see the pictures wey I post?

You probably were not watching our games back then

The point here is that Fergie had selection issues yet found a way to manage the situation and grind out important wins.

2026, a £400m+ squad struggled against 15th placed Leeds at Old Trafford and the immediate solution is transfer window.

Haba
We said the same thing under ETH, then Amorim, now Carrick is clueless after a couple good runs. We can even go further than ETH. Who have we recruited to our defense and midfield in the last 5 years? Please let's analyze this 400m+ that we are saying we have spent
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Goosethetruth(m): 7:22am On Apr 14
[quote author=Leyqute post=139091365][/quote]I am not your father,please.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 7:30am On Apr 14
eph12:
That's Pep's solution, why is it a problem for us? You can't spend 400m badly and expect the players to just turn up because you spent 400m.
Hasnt it been proven here repeatedly that we have outspent City in the last 5 years thereabout?

The "Pep solution", is his tactical Nous.

It is always our players that are expensive "rubbish" incapable of beating Leeds at OT.

eph12:
Park was an utility player that could run all games. Why are you comparing Case at his current age to players like Rafael and Fabio in their young age ready to run all game? Case in his young age would do a good job at the CB. Please delete Ugarte. He is not better than Gibson
What are you saying?

Park's "Utility" status no reach RB bros.

Rafael and Fabio - were they wingers?

Were Carrick and Fletcher CBs?

Darren Gibson and John O'Shea as CMs?

You clearly didn't watch our games.

Like I said earlier, Fergie had injury woes yet managed to find a way to win vs Bundesliga Defending Champions and Arsenal.

2026, Maguire misses an embarassing OT loss vs 15th placed Leeds and here we are looking forward to TW as the only solution.

Who do us this thing?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 7:36am On Apr 14
eph12:
We said the same thing under ETH, then Amorim, now Carrick is clueless after a couple good runs. We can even go further than ETH. Who have we recruited to our defense and midfield in the last 5 years? Please let's analyze this 400m+ that we are saying we have spent
•Sesko

•Mbuemo

•Cunha

•Yoro

•Lammens

•Zirkzee

•Ugarte

Give us the total of their transfers please

Unless you are telling me that 15th placed Leeds have better players and that's why they are 15th.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:48am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
•Sesko

•Mbuemo

•Cunha

•Yoro

•Lammens

•Zirkzee

•Ugarte

Give us the total of their transfers please

Unless you are telling me that 15th placed Leeds have better players and that's why they are 15th.
Defense and midfield and you're listing all these?

Anyways like I mentioned earlier, if they spent the money poorly, it doesn't make it better.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 7:49am On Apr 14
eph12:
Defense and midfield and you're listing all these?

Anyways like I mentioned earlier, if they spent the money poorly, it doesn't make it better.
The defenders and midfielders on parade for 15th placed Leeds - are they better than ours?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:57am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
Hasnt it been proven here repeatedly that we have outspent City in the last 5 years thereabout?

The "Pep solution", is his tactical Nous.

It is always our players that are expensive "rubbish" incapable of beating Leeds at OT.



What are you saying?

Park's "Utility" status no reach RB bros.

Rafael and Fabio - were they wingers?

Were Carrick and Fletcher CBs?

Darren Gibson and John O'Shea as CMs?

You clearly didn't watch our games.

Like I said earlier, Fergie had injury woes yet managed to find a way to win vs Bundesliga Defending Champions and Arsenal.

2026, Maguire misses an embarassing OT loss vs 15th placed Leeds and here we are looking forward to TW as the only solution.

Who do us this thing?
We're just repeating the same thing with this money we have spent talk. I'll skip.

How would you know where Park utility status reach if he hasn't played there before? Look at those line ups and see the leaders we had on the field. Scholes, Rooney, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, VDS, Park. Then look at who those guys train with that were not in the starting line up or bench. You think those things don't count?

I agree with you on Maguire. We wouldn't have lost if Maguire was on the pitch cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:59am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
The defenders and midfielders on parade for 15th placed Leeds - are they better than ours?
Better in terms of? Technically, mentally, motivated, physically?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 8:03am On Apr 14
eph12:
We're just repeating the same thing with this money we have spent talk. I'll skip.

How would you know where Park utility status reach if he hasn't played there before? Look at those line ups and see the leaders we had on the field. Scholes, Rooney, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, VDS, Park. Then look at who those guys train with that were not in the starting line up or bench. You think those things don't count?
Park was an utility Midfielder and attacker - he wasnt a RB.

•Carrick and Fletcher lined up at CB!

•Gibson and O'Shea paired as CMs!

•Rafael and Fabio played as wingers!

Yet no excuses from Fergie - he delivered results vs Buli champions and Arsenal!

eph12:
I agree with you on Maguire. We wouldn't have lost if Maguire was on the pitch cheesy
2026, Maguire and is missing from the starting line up vs 15th placed Leeds. We get embarrassed at OT and the "viable" solution is to spend money like City in the next TW

Omo × 20000
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa:
eph12:
Better in terms of? Technically, mentally, motivated, physically?
You tell us nau

Shebi you are implying that we lost because our defenders and midfielders aren't good enough?

Tell us about the "strengths" of defenders and Midfielders plying their trade at 15th placed Leeds
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:14am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
You tell us nau

Shebi you are are implying that we lost because our defenders and midfielders aren't good enough?

Tell us about the "strengths" of defenders and Midfielders plying their trade at 15th placed Leeds
No worry I agree with you. Players are good, coaches are bad. Can't wait for the next coach
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 8:16am On Apr 14
eph12:
I'm saying it will be very difficult for any manager to fix this with the current set of players especially in defense and attack. How many more managers do we need to have before we realize what the real problem is here? A Flick with this midfield and defense will have serious problems trying to implement his style. Even Naggelsman will struggle a lot with bad results. Their only saving grace will be fixing the real problem on time.
Getting a new manager comes with getting players to replace the dross we currently have in the team. Both solid manage and solid players should be the priority
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:21am On Apr 14
larride:
Getting a new manager comes with getting players to replace the dross we currently have in the team. Both solid manage and solid players should be the priority
That's not always the case.

Anyways I am hoping we get both, not like I rate Carrick as a coach. But I wouldn't have any expectation if we don't make significant investments in the defense and midfield.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 8:24am On Apr 14
eph12:
No worry I agree with you. Players are good, coaches are bad. Can't wait for the next coach
Hiring and firing of coaches that are underperforming isnt a big deal anywhere.

Unlike players that can still be benched till they regain form, coaches do not have that luxury.

Carrick has done well as an interim manager but regardless, it shouldn't stop us from discussing his shortcomings - the ones that have nothing to do with the yearly player purchases that have been ongoing for aeons and wouldnt stop anytime soon.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by superfelix: 8:26am On Apr 14
shaw no even get any pace again grin . we need to move a lot of players on and get quality replacements too. we literally have no depth at all. lot of work to do this summer
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 8:36am On Apr 14
Next two games are absolutely the make or break points for the UCL..Four points from Chelshit and Loserpool games and we'll be there.. Hopefully the boys turn up..

Mainoo is our only good CM.. The midfield was non-existent yesternight.. Make Oluwa give Ratface better cashout from him businesses before the TW opens abeg..We need to spending heavily and wisely for that midfield..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 8:45am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
What are you even saying?

If it was 2026 that the coach was playing Rafael and Fabio as wingers, una nor go don call for the head of INEOS?

If na now Park dey play Right Back or a CB pairing of Case and Ugarte lined up today, una go even gree any other excuse?

Abi you nor see the pictures wey I post?

You probably were not watching our games back then

The point here is that Fergie had selection issues yet found a way to manage the situation and grind out important wins.

2026, a £400m+ squad struggled against 15th placed Leeds at Old Trafford and the immediate solution is transfer window.

Haba
Those players were good players. Even if you played them in goal, they were ready to put their all in the game. No dey mention Ugarte
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m):
When we talk they will say we are Amorimsexual.Seriously I dnt think yesterday match is a enough to crucify Carrick.Even almighty Pep v his bad days.Alot of us taught ving long rest days will make us more competitive but seems to be ving opposite effect.like I v always maintain let wait till end of season for full assessment.l believe those in charge will make the right decision.They v shown their shrewdness in not accepting Ole
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa:
odizeey:
Those players were good players. Even if you played them in goal, they were ready to put their all in the game. No dey mention Ugarte
The bolded is a testament of Ferguson's influence on the team and further evidence of how important a coach is to a team's psyche and mentality...even when things are a bit awkward!

No amount of spin would make a CM pairing of Gibson and Oshea, a CB pairing of Fletcher and Carrick and a LWF/RWF selection of Rafael and Fabio as ideal.

Ferguson made the best outta the resources at his disposal and was able to grind out results on those occasions. Those days, coaches knew what they signed up for. Those results were entirely on the coach!

Nowadays, Manchester UTD gets embarrassed at home vs 15th placed Team despite the availability of 4 out of 5 transfer acquisitions as recent as 6months ago.

These transfers ran into hundreds of millions of pounds and we are still here talking about spending more money as the solution.

How much more do we need to spend before we can be confident of beating 15th placed teams at OT?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 9:04am On Apr 14
engrelvis:
When we talk they will say we are Amorimsexual.Seriously I dnt that nk yesterday match is a enough to crucify Carrick.Even almighty Pep v his bad days.Alot of us taught ving long rest days will make us more competitive but seems to be ving opposite effect. like I v always maintain let wait till end of season for full assessment.l believe those in charge will make the right decision.They v shown their shrewdness in not accepting Ole
If these are the excuses being put forward, e for better
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 9:08am On Apr 14
Same referee here though..No card, No foul..Same stupid Paul Tierney...

I don't know what the hierarchy of this club is doing..They should have been lambasting the FA from the Bournemouth game..

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m):
Jamiuokolaa:
If these are the excuses being put forward, e for better
Yes some of our players were shit but Leeds won that match yesterday because of high energy and physicality.lt simply disrupt our game plan.Yoro became a nervous wreck
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:30am On Apr 14
eph12:
Hehe after Carrick's good run, he is now clueless? Hmmmmmmmm
Na vibes na, but he gave us the new manager bounce which has helped us to top 3 until now. Way better than the previous manager that made us suffer while building castle in the air.

Hopefully, we can make it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:33am On Apr 14
engrelvis:
Yes some of our players were shit but Leeds but won that match yesterday because of high energy and physicality.lt simply disrupt our game plan.Yoro became a nervous wreck
It’s the energy that is lacking these days. Started a few games ago and Carrick has not done anything about it. We play once in 1-2 weeks and you can’t get the boys to stay sharp and run like mad for 90 mins. We had 21 days before the Leeds game. Wtf! Carrick is a big and gentle man football proponent.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 9:37am On Apr 14
nitrogen:
Na vibes na, but he gave us the new manager bounce which has helped us to top 3 until now. Way better than the previous manager that made us suffer while building castle in the air.

Hopefully, we can make it.
2024/2025

*after a humiliating home loss to whatever rubbish club*

"How can we achieve anything with Højlund, Rashford and Garnacho?

We desperately need upgrades in these areas"

2025/2026

*after an embarassing home defeat to 15th placed Leeds;

"If we don't buy CBs and CMs, the attackers we spent huge amounts on, cant function"

Naso we talk talk talk that time sotay operation "Free Pogba" take enter the fray and we became the bútt of jokes

Utd fans sha cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 9:41am On Apr 14
Our people say " something wey no good no get 2 names - it is bad"

Losing at home vs 15th placed Leeds at OT after that abysmal 1st half performance is bad and inexcusable and the manager is culpable to a major extent!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:49am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
2024/2025

*after a humiliating home loss to whatever rubbish club*

"How can we achieve anything with Højlund, Rashford and Garnacho?

We desperately need upgrades in these areas"

2025/2026

*after an embarassing home defeat to 15th placed Leeds;

"If we don't buy CBs and CMs, the attackers we spent huge amounts on, cant function"

Naso we talk talk talk that time sotay operation "Free Pogba" take enter the fray and we became the bútt of jokes

Utd fans sha cheesy
Lol, they’d rather that we change the squad every 1-2 years than change managers. They forgot that changing managers like water is a major part of the game and that buying 7 players per season is not realistic and will not amount to anything if no luck re manager recruitment.

Gone are the days of Fergie and Wenger. Even small teams don’t keep a manager for long anymore.

Meanwhile, the Martinez red card no make any sense sha. Everybody was confused yesterday. The boy sef dey rash, maybe he tries to make up for his lack of height with brashness. We may need to move him on. Na one of the replacements be that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 10:28am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
The bolded is a testament of Ferguson's influence on the team and further evidence of how important a coach is to a team's psyche and mentality...even when things are a bit awkward!

No amount of spin would make a CM pairing of Gibson and Oshea, a CB pairing of Fletcher and Carrick and a LWF/RWF selection of Rafael and Fabio as ideal.

Ferguson made the best outta the resources at his disposal and was able to grind out results on those occasions. Those days, coaches knew what they signed up for. Those results were entirely on the coach!

Nowadays, Manchester UTD gets embarrassed at home vs 15th placed Team despite the availability of 4 out of 5 transfer acquisitions as recent as 6months ago.

These transfers ran into hundreds of millions of pounds and we are still here talking about spending more money as the solution.

How much more do we need to spend before we can be confident of beating 15th placed teams at OT?
Ferguson knew their mentality before he bought them. He no dey buy undedicated players like that.

No coach is coming to make these sissies play like the men they are supposed to be. Thy can whine us for a while but them go cast.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:42am On Apr 14
Jamiuokolaa:
Is it the fielding every week that made us lose yesterday?
You’re asserting that SAF fielded his second team against some clubs and won. But he didn’t do that in isolation. He still had a very strong first team and that is the main reason the team B is hungry to perform.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 10:53am On Apr 14
Leyqute:
You’re asserting that SAF fielded his second team against some clubs and won. But he didn’t do that in isolation. He still had a very strong first team and that is the main reason the team B is hungry to perform.
The strength of the 1st team has no relevance to fergie fielding Carrick and Fletcher at CBs, O'Shea and Gibson as CMs, Park at RB, Doctor Owen (MBBS) and the Da Silva twins as wing forwards to defeat the Reigning Buli champions away from home, and also keep a clean sheet in a 2-0 win vs Arsenal.

There were no excuses then - just results.

We need to raise the bar again and stop putting forth needless excuses for managers...especially when they fail to beat 15th placed Leeds at OT!
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