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FxMasterz:
You must embrace the truth by force!

There are tens of thousands of churches claiming Christians with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so which one in particular do you belong to so we can know the church that's teaching this truth?😂

FxMasterz:
Who cares how it smells.
The question is "Who appoints rulers?"

See yourself in the mirror!

FxMasterz:
Nobody is asking you about God's chosen rulers.
Who appoints (choose) rulers?

😀

FxMasterz:
Nigerians are required to have NIN. Are you a Nigerian? Do you have NIN?

So how many times do i have to repeat myself that i live in Lagos?😂

FxMasterz:
Do you also.pay government taxes to use swords and guns for their defense services?

Whatever they choose to use is none of my business as long as they vow (take oath of service) after the masses voted them as rulers i pay them! Romans 13:6-7😀

MaxInDHouse:
There are tens of thousands of churches claiming Christians with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines so which one in particular do you belong to so we can know the church that's teaching this truth?😂

Your doctrunes contradict mine, and that of several other gatherings. It's clear you're for deception as I have answered your questions straightly while you keep dodging mine.

If all the doctrunes are taking from the same Bible, your doctrine is just one of the many contradictions.

I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. I believe that He died and rose again for my salvation. I believe that He's coming back again to take me home. Jesus is my Lord. The Holy Spirit is my Sweet Companion, Teacher and Comforter. I am a blood-washed member of God's family. Anyone who believes all these with me is my brother. Anything else is secondary.

FxMasterz:
Your doctrunes contraduct mine.

So it's one against one therefore you can't judge who has the truth unless we use Jesus' yardstick (if you believe in him) he said "by THEIR fruits you will know" Matthew 7:16

So if you can't mention the name of your church how are we going to know the fruit of your gathering? Matthew 5:14-16😂

MaxInDHouse:
See yourself in the mirror!

Says a false worshipper who has admitted errors, dodged questions and had never been able to prove a single point in his repertoire of deceptive doctrines.

So how many times do i have to repeat myself that i live in Lagos?😂

You may live in Lagos and not be a citizen of Nigeria.

Do you have an NIN?

Whatever they choose to use is none of my business as long as they vow (take oath of service) after the masses voted them as rulers i pay them! Romans 13:6-7😀

Kikikikiki.

It's not a matter of whatever they choose to use. You already know what they use. Yet, you enjoy the services while hypocritically teaching against self defense!

MaxInDHouse:
So it's one against one therefore you can't judge who has the truth unless we use Jesus' yardstick (if you believe in him) he said "by THEIR fruits you will know" Matthew 7:16

So if you can't mention the name of your church how are we going to know the fruit of your gathering? Matthew 5:14-16😂

But the fruits you have borne here are these:

Errors.

Deceits

Dodging questions

Hypocrisy.

The Church of a Christ is one. I am a member of His Body. There is no schism in His Body.

So it's by our discussion that the whole world will know who is the light between you and i or by what my church and your church is producing as fruit in the society?😂

FxMasterz:
But the fruits you have borne here are these:
Errors.
Deceits
Dodging questions
Hypocrisy.
The Church of a Christ is one. I am a member of His Body. There is no schism in His Body.

FxMasterz:
Says a false worshipper who has admitted errors, dodged questions and had never been able to prove a single point in his repertoire of deceptive doctrines.

Judge yourself!🤣

FxMasterz:
You may live in Lagos and not be a citizen of Nigeria.

So Lagos is no part of Nigeria?
I can't blame you because most of you are babies when Lagos was the capital of Nigeria?😀

FxMasterz:
It's not a matter of whatever they choose to use. You already know what they use. Yet, you enjoy the services while hypocritically teaching against self defense!

Self defense totally differs from what constituted authority says.
For instance if you kill a member of the Boko haram the authorities won't say "thank you" for killing a terrorist rather you will be sued for taking laws into your hands because they are supposed to do that for you since you've paid them.
So be enlightened self defense totally differs from taking up harms to fight in fact if a gun is found in your car you will be arrested immediately you have to get a license for it and continue to report to the nearest police station how many bullets are in your gun because it must remain intact.

Ọmọ you people don't know the laws you just dey go church!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
So it's by our discussion that the whole world will know who is the light between you and i or by what my church and your church is producing as fruit in the society?😂

Yes. It's by what you and I as individuals produce as fruits in the society - online and offline.

MaxInDHouse:
Judge yourself!🤣

Everything is verifiable here and now.

So Lagos is no part of Nigeria?
I can't blame you because most of you are babies when Lagos was the capital of Nigeria?😀

Lol.

Are you a Nigerian living in Lagos? Do you have an NIN?

Or should we accept my your comments that you have admitted and confessed to being Nigerian?

Self defense totally differs from what constituted authority says.
For instance if you kill a member of the Boko haram the authorities won't say "thank you" for killing a terrorist rather you will be sued for taking laws into your hands because they are supposed to do that for you since you've paid them.

I like this bolded part. It says the authorities are supposed to kill Boko haram members for me since I have paid them. Nice one.

That means authorities are not wrong to hold swords and guns to defend the citizens. The citizens, including you, even pay taxes because of this important service.

This make your organization a liar.

So be enlightened self defense totally differs from taking up harms to fight in fact if a gun is found in your car you will be arrested immediately you have to get a license for it and continue to report to the nearest police station how many bullets are in your gun because it must remain intact.

Ọmọ you people don't know the laws you just dey go church!🙂

No one is taking about taking up arms. We are talking about nations defending against evil.

Funny guy!

On a faceless forum where nobody can see you shey?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself Jesus said we are the light of the world which means a global group that's noticable globally not just an individual.

None of Jesus' disciples could do that because they all stumble in words many times {James 3:2 compare to Romans 7:15-18} but as an organized people they will deliver.

That's why you are ashamed of your church because there is no way you can mention any church that could stand beside Jehovah's Witnesses in fine fruit!🙂

FxMasterz:
Yes. It's by what you and I as individuals produce as fruits in the society - online and offline.

FxMasterz:
Everything is verifiable here and now.
Lol.
Are you a Nigerian living in Lagos? Do you have an NIN?
Or should we accept my your comments that you have admitted and confessed to being Nigerian?

Childish talks!🤧

FxMasterz:
I like this bolded part. It says the authorities are supposed to kill Boko haram members for me since I have paid them. Nice one.

You guys just want to argue whereas you know nothing about the law!

Ọmọ if they arrest anyone as Boko haram he must be taken to court and if he doesn't have an attorney to defend his case they must find one for him it's after he has been found guilty and death is not the direct judgement even if he has killed many people they will find out his background maybe he lacks basic education and many more.
So they will do all that as part of their service not just kill.
It's when such terrorists face the army in a gunfight that they are killed o!😀

MaxInDHouse:
Childish talks!🤧

You have been exposed!

You're Nigerian but pretend you don't need the works rulers because they're ruling for Satan according to you. Yet, you benefit from defence activities and many other things government provides. Hypocrisy at its peak.

You guys just want to argue whereas you know nothing about the law!

Ọmọ if they arrest anyone as Boko haram he must be taken to court and if he doesn't have an attorney to defend his case they must find one for him it's after he has been found guilty and death is not the direct judgement even if he has killed many people they will find out his background maybe he lacks basic education and many more.
So they will do all that as part of their service not just kill.
It's when such terrorists face the army in a gunfight that they are killed o!😀

You just like parroting unnecessarily.

Who is talking about the arrest of Boko haram members? Trying to deflect just to avoid the truth.

The thing is that you appreciate the sword and guns being used by government to protect you. You don't want to be left vulnerable but condemn the same government for using sword and guns in your teachings. This is very deceitful of you and your sect.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny guy!

On a faceless forum where nobody can see you shey?

Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself Jesus said we are the light of the world which means a global group that's noticable globally not just an individual.

None of Jesus' disciples could do that because they all stumble in words many times {James 3:2 compare to Romans 7:15-18} but as an organized people they will deliver.

That's why you are ashamed of your church because there is no way you can mentioning any church that could stand beside Jehovah's Witnesses in fine fruit!🙂

False teacher. Once we expose you again, you'll come back here to deny all you said and later, you'll claim it was an error.

Groups don't produce fruits. Fruits are borne by individuals, according to the Bible.

Jesus said "I am the Vine, ye are the branches, every branch in me that produces not good fruit...."

The focus is on branches. Every single individual believer is a branch of Christ. Each branch is attached to only one body - Christ.

Your organization is not a branch. No Church denomination is a branch. Individual believers are all individual branches of the same tree, which is Christ.

The fruits we bear individually can reflect in our conversations, both offline and online.

So the Lord Jesus said: "Let your light so shine before men, that they may Glorify your Father which is in heaven."

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith..." Galatians 5:22.

As you.bear these fruits listed above, your light is shining, and men are glorifying your Father who is in heaven.

Each fruit mentioned above is borne by individuals, not groups. That is why "EVERY MAN's work (not every group's work) shall be tested with fire."

Now, I know you are confused. Fruits are if two modes:

1. The soul winning mode: If I win you to Christ, you are my fruit in Christ.

2. The Character mode: My way of life and the virtues of Christ that I exude are the expressions of the fruits of the Spirit through me.

Both fruits are individually borne. And our rewards are based on both fruits. That's why Jesus said "I come quickly, and my reward is with me to give to EVERY MAN (Not every organization or group) according as HIS WORK (not their works) shall be."

Rewards are individually awarded because fruits are individually borne.

Humble yourself under the Word of God, and make up your mind to rid yourself of the doctrines of demons with which your organization has fed you.

The Christ mentality is what you have condemned just like your first century brothers in Judaism who condemned Jesus and his disciples because they felt Jesus and his disciples will not use the sword yet they want to be protected by the sword.
This is what Pharisees said about Jesus for teaching his listeners not to carry weapons:

"If we let him go on this way, they will all put faith in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.” John 11:48

To them Jesus and his followers are of no good use to their nation since they will not join in fighting against the Romans.

So the Christ mentality you condemned and i can't stop you from doing so.🙂

FxMasterz:
You have been exposed!
You're Nigerian but pretend you don't need the works rulers because they're ruling for Satan according to you. Yet, you benefit from defence activities and many other things government provides. Hypocrisy at its peak.
You just like parroting unnecessarily.
Who is talking about the arrest of Boko haram members? Trying to deflect just to avoid the truth.
The thing is that you appreciate the sword and guns being used by government to protect you. You don't want to be left vulnerable but condemn the same government for using sword and guns in your teachings. This is very deceitful of you and your sect.

FxMasterz:
Groups don't produce fruits. Fruits are borne by individuals, according to the Bible.

Can you mention an individual among Jesus' disciples who bore the fruit that no pagan individual as borne before?🤔

You don't understand God's word yet you want to argue.

There is no religion on this planet where you won't find individuals having fine qualities worth emulating but what exposes false religions is that as a group they will fail.

WHY?

Because we humans are imperfect so as individually we can't adequately meet up with the qualities of God's holy {James 3:2 compare to Romans 7:15-20} but because we were created in God's image you will always find virtuous individuals in different religions. Romans 2:14-15

What makes God's organization different?

God's organized people differs because it's God's holy spirit that's working in the gathering of God's children while Satan and demons are behind false religions so even though imperfection may affect individuals within God's organized people such an individual can't influence the group for evil but despite having virtuous individuals in false religions it's the demonic powers that will control their gathering that's what Jesus meant by saying "by their fruits you will know" Matthew 7:16-18 🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Can you mention an individual among Jesus' disciples who bore the fruit that no pagan individual as borne before?

All of them except Judas.

You don't understand God's word yet you want to argue.

There is no religion on this planet where you won't find individuals having fine qualities worth emulating but what exposes false religions is that as a group they will fail.

They always fall short. They can't meet God's standards. Only the Holy Spirit can meet God's standards through you. That is why they're not called the fruits of a believer, but ",The Fruits of the Spirit".

WHY?

Because we humans are imperfect so as individually we can't adequately meet up with the qualities of God's holy {James 3:2 compare to Romans 7:15-20} but because we were created in God's image you will always find virtuous individuals in different religions. Romans 2:14-15

Because we are imperfect humans' and God demands perfection. He has given us His Spirit so that His Spirits can bear the fruits in us. That is why the fruits are called The Fruits of the Spirit.

Hence,

"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" Philippians 4:13.

After putting on Christ, I became a partaker of the devine nature through the Spirit of God that indwells me:

"Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires." 2 Peter 1:4.

By virtue of the divine nature granted me by the great Holy Spirit of Promise, I am no longer carnally minded.

"For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace" Romans 8:6.

What makes God's organization different?

God's organized people differs because it's God's holy spirit that's working in the gathering of God's children while Satan and demons are behind false religions so even though imperfection may affect individuals within God's organized people such an individual can't influence the group for evil but despite having virtuous individuals in false religions it's the demonic powers that will control their gathering that's what Jesus meant by saying "by their fruits you will know" Matthew 7:16-18 🙂

When Jesus said "By their fruits, you will know them." He was talking of individual false prophets. Not groups or gatherings. You're just too heretic.

"15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Mathew 7:15-16.

MaxInDHouse:
The Christ mentality is what you have condemned just like your first century brothers in Judaism who condemned Jesus and his disciples because they felt Jesus and his disciples will not use the sword yet they want to be protected by the sword.
This is what Pharisees said about Jesus for teaching his listeners not to carry weapons:

"If we let him go on this way, they will all put faith in him, and the Romans will come and take away both our place and our nation.” John 11:48

To them Jesus and his followers are of no good use to their nation since they will not join in fighting against the Romans.

So the Christ mentality you condemned and i can't stop you from doing so.🙂

My dear, the Pharisees thought Jesus was against national defense. Meanwhile, He never condemned soldiers for being soldiers. He never condemned rulers for recruiting soldiers.

That still does not mean that you keep enjoying defences and protection from government who use guns and swords but you hypocritically teach against it. You pay taxes while joyfully waiting to be protected by 'Satan's rulers', and do not want to be left vulnerable to bandits and Boko boys. 😂 😂

Very funny people.

FxMasterz:
All of them except Judas.

Which means you are talking about the GROUP not an individual!🙂

FxMasterz:
When Jesus said "By their fruits, you will know them." He was talking of individual false prophets. Not groups or gatherings. You're just too heretic.

The individual false prophet will pretend to be a sheep {Matthew 7:15} so there is no way you can get any fruit from them because they will hide everything from the public but after gathering followers and teaching them their teachings will fail to produce fine fruit among their followers.

That's why Jesus said false prophets will mislead many {Matthew 24:11} so it's by observing those following them that you will know whether their God's servants or Satan's!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Which means you are talking about the GROUP not an individual!🙂

Each, and everyone of them as individuals bore fruits that their contemporaries testified about.

The individual false prophet will pretend to be a sheep {Matthew 7:15} so there is no way you can get any fruit from them because they will hide everything from the public but after gathering followers and teaching them their teachings will fail to produce fine fruit among their followers.

Not an intelligent submission at all. This position is very much void of sound reasoning because the fruits they bear is what identifies them. Not the fruits they pretend to bear. We see them daily in our world. Their ministries are full of scandals, failed prophecies, heresies, child abuses, ever changing doctrines, lying revelations, etc.

That's why Jesus said false prophets will mislead many {Matthew 24:11} so it's by observing those following them that you will know whether their God's servants or Satan's!🙂

The Bible didn't say we should observe those following them, but to observe they themselves. We know them by the fruits they bear. They're full of lies and hypocrisy. They condemn military service while enjoying the defence benefits of the military rather than being left vulnerable to attacks.

FxMasterz:
Each, and everyone of them as individuals bore fruits that their contemporaries testified about.

Who disowned Jesus three times? Matthew 10 :33
Who disowned his fellow believers? Galatians 2:11-14
Stop deceiving yourself.
It was as a group that they performed not individually.

FxMasterz:
Not an intelligent submission at all. This position is very much void of sound reasoning because the fruits they bear is what identifies them. Not the fruits they pretend to bear. We see them daily in our world. Their ministries are full of scandals, failed prophecies, heresies, child abuses, ever changing doctrines, lying revelations, etc.

The same applies to first century Jewish disciples of Jesus but when you look around no group performed better than them!🙂

FxMasterz:
The Bible didn't say we should observe those following them, but to observe they themselves. We know them by the fruits they bear. They're full of lies and hypocrisy. They condemn military service while enjoying the defence benefits of the military rather than being left vulnerable to attacks.

This is what Jesus said about fruit of Christianity:

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the cultivator. He takes away every branch in me not bearing fruit, and he cleans every one bearing fruit, so that it may bear more fruit." John 15:1-2

So Jesus himself is the three but who are the branches?

"I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever remains in union with me and I in union with him, this one bears much fruit; for apart from me you can do nothing at all." John 15:5

So the apostles are branches while the disciples they make will serve as the fruit that's is why Jehovah Witnesses are of the same line of thought {John 17:22} because we're all attached to the same vine. You can't present any church because you know that all of you are spiritually scattered regarding your beliefs! Luke 11:23🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Who disowned Jesus three times? Matthew 10 :33
Who disowned his fellow believers? Galatians 2:11-14
Stop deceiving yourself.
It was as a group that they performed not individually.

Beating the fruits of the Spirit does not mean that human frailty wouldn't interfere from time to time as we continue to grow in the faith. We're working towards perfection but not subdued by the Adamic nature. It takes times for our minds to be fully renewed and to be totally confirmed to the Word.

The same applies to first century Jewish disciples of Jesus but when you look around no group performed better than them!🙂

This is what Jesus said about fruit of Christianity:

There's nothing like fruit of Christianity, dude. You need to be schooled.


The first century were not new testament saints. Hence, had no claim on the fruits of the Spirit. We're talking of the New Testament era where we see real fake believers who exude no virtue. We see their fruits and know them. Many of them are on this platform. I'm already conversing with one who had no remorse for pending down what he later called and error. Sees no wrong in condemning something he's enjoying. Very heretical and full of deceits.

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the cultivator. He takes away every branch in me not bearing fruit, and he cleans

every one bearing fruit

, so that it may bear more fruit." John 15:1-2

So Jesus himself is the three but who are the branches?

The bolded part of the verse you quoted shows The was talking about individuals, that's why He said EVERY ONE. Except you're expecting Jesus to be talking about several organizations as fruits. And if you claim that your organization is the only true organization, your argument falls flat with Jesus saying "Everyone" in regards to every organization. Does Jesus expect every organization, groups, denominations to bear fruits? No. Jesus does not know groups, organizations or denominations. He has only one Body which comprises of all believers. Hence, the fruit bearers are each individual believers. Jesus is the tree. We, individual believers are His branches

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b]"I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever remains in union with me and I in union with him, this one bears much fruit; for apart from me you can do nothing at all." John 15:5[/b]
That word WHOEVER further establishes that Jesus is referring to individual believers. Simple English.

[quote]So the apostles are branches while the disciples they make will serve as the fruit that's is why Jehovah Witnesses are of the same line of thought {John 17:22} because we're all attached to the same vine. You can't present any church because you know that all of you are spiritually scattered regarding your beliefs! Luke 11:23🙂

We're all spiritually borne of the Vine, Christ Jesus.

Each apostle was a branch. Each genuine Christian is a branch. Bring physically and geographically scattered is not tantamount to being spiritually scattered. You must be delusional.

Faith in Jesus is what makes us one. We are all partakers of that One Bread, which is Christ Jesus.

FxMasterz:
Beating the fruits of the Spirit does not mean that human frailty wouldn't interfere from time to time as we continue to grow in the faith. We're working towards perfection but not subdued by the Adamic nature. It takes times for our minds to be fully renewed and to be totally confirmed to the Word.

Did the same thing happened to Jesus?

NO! Because he is a perfect human unlike we imperfect humans that is why there is no imperfect human who can bear the fruit of God's holy spirit completely as an individual.

FxMasterz:
There's nothing like fruit of Christianity, dude.

So what do you call the fruit that only Jesus' disciples can produce?🙂

FxMasterz:
The bolded part of the verse you quoted shows The was talking about individuals, that's why He said EVERY ONE. Except you're expecting Jesus to be talking about several organizations as fruits. And if you claim that your organization is the only true organization, your argument falls flat with Jesus saying "Everyone" in regards to every organization. Does Jesus expect every organization, groups, denominations to bear fruits? No. Jesus does not know groups, organizations or denominations. He has only one Body which comprises of all believers. Hence, the fruit bearers are each individual believers. Jesus is the tree. We, individual believers are His branches.

The everyone here refers to the branch which means Jesus' apostles but fruit is the product of their gathering as a group!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Did the same thing happened to Jesus?

NO! Because he is a perfect human unlike we imperfect humans that is why there is no imperfect human who can bear the fruit of God's holy spirit completely as an individual.

There are examples of known perfect humans in the Bible. The Scriptures encourage us to move towards perfection. If there are people who achieved perfection in the Bible, there's no reason why we should not achieve the same. The Holy Spirit dwells in us for this very purpose. If we continue yielding, someday, we can attain. This is the truth of the Word of God. Only Satan tells you otherwise.

So what do you call the fruit that only Jesus' disciples can produce?🙂

Galatians 5:22: "Now, the fruits of the spirit are manifest

Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering (Patience), Gentleness, Goodness, Faith (Faithfulness), Meekness, Temperance (Self-control)."

The everyone here refers to the branch which means Jesus' apostles but fruit is the product of their gathering as a group!🙂

Incorrect!

Here, Jesus was not talking about the fruits of the Spirit but soul winning - evangelism.

Every branch must bear fruits, and every fruit must someday become a branch bearing fruits. The disciples won souls. We too as individuals must win souls. God expects all believers to be soul winners. The souls you win are the fruits Jesus was talking about here.

Jesus was talking to the 12 disciples here. Paul was not among them. But Paul also bore fruits, didn't he? We too must bear fruits as Paul did. Jesus spoke to all of us, not just the 12 apostles. Paul was the one who first preached the Gospel in Achaia, and he said:

"I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)" 1 Corinthians 15:16.

FxMasterz:
There are examples of known perfect humans in the Bible. The Scriptures encourage us to move towards perfection.

There is no single perfect human:

The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
‭Psalms 14:2-3 NIV‬
So that is why Christ must rule (teach) mankind for 1000 years {Revelation 20:1-3} after that humans will become perfect not now!🙂

FxMasterz:
Galatians 5:22: "Now, the fruits of the spirit are manifest
Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering (Patience), Gentleness, Goodness, Faith (Faithfulness), Meekness, Temperance (Self-control).

No single human manifested all these qualities except Jesus that is why God said we should learn from him {Matthew 17:5} whatever virtue there is in any human you'll see in Individuals across all religions that's why everyone must be a Christian to become perfect like Jesus otherwise God will destroy them for disobedience. John 3:16

FxMasterz:
Incorrect!
Here, Jesus was not talking about the fruits of the Spirit but soul winning - evangelism. Every branch must bear fruits, and every fruit must someday become a branch bearing fruits. The disciples won souls. We too as individuals must win souls. God expects all believers to be soul winners. The souls you hear are the fruits Jesus was talking about here. Jesus was talking to the 12 disciples here. Paul was not among them. But Paul also bore fruits, didn't he? We too must bear fruits as Paul did. Jesus spoke to all of us, not just the 12 apostles. Paul was the one who first preached the Gospel in Achaia, and he said:
"I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)" 1 Corinthians 15:16.

What fruit has any individual claiming Christian produced or exhibited that you won't find in individuals across other religions!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
There is no single perfect human:

The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.
‭Psalms 14:2-3 NIV‬
So that is why Christ must rule (teach) mankind for 1000 years {Revelation 20:1-3} after that humans will become perfect not now!🙂


No single human manifested all these qualities except Jesus that is why God said we should learn from him {Matthew 17:5} whatever virtue there is in any human you'll see in Individuals across all religions that's why everyone must be a Christian to become perfect like Jesus otherwise God will destroy them for disobedience. John 3:16

What fruit has any individual claiming Christian produced or exhibited that you won't find in individuals across other religions!🙂

Are you deliberately heretical, or you're simply ignorant?

Here are the specific people whom the Bible testified to us about how they were perfect:

1. Job
Job 1:1, 8 (KJV): Describes Job as a "perfect and an upright man" [1, 2] who feared God. [4, 5, 6, 7]

2. Zechariah and Elizabeth
Luke 1:6 (KJV): They are described as righteous and walking in all the commandments of the Lord "blameless" [3]. [8, 9, 10, 11]

3. Simeon
Luke 2:25 (KJV): Described as a "just and devout" man waiting for the consolation of Israel [4]. [12, 13]

4. Noah: Described as a just man who was "perfect in his generations" (Genesis 6:9).

Here you go again with misinterpretation.

Surely you don't know the meaning of that word "PERFECT"🙂

If you know you will slap any translator who use the word PERFECT for anyone other than Jesus Christ.

Of what use is Jesus if there are humans who are perfect?
Why must we accept Jesus as God's only begotten Son if there are humans who have proved to be PERFECT?🙂

FxMasterz:
Are you deliberately heretical, or you're simply ignorant?

Here are the specific people whom the Bible testified to us about how they were perfect:

1. Job
Job 1:1, 8 (KJV): Describes Job as a "perfect and an upright man" [1, 2] who feared God. [4, 5, 6, 7]

2. Zechariah and Elizabeth
Luke 1:6 (KJV): They are described as righteous and walking in all the commandments of the Lord "blameless" [3]. [8, 9, 10, 11]

3. Simeon
Luke 2:25 (KJV): Described as a "just and devout" man waiting for the consolation of Israel [4]. [12, 13]

4. Noah: Described as a just man who was "perfect in his generations" (Genesis 6:9).

lol.. someone refused to answer if he's a Nigerian with NIN. Simple Yes/No or simply A/B.
took almost 3 pages explaining and explaining tire a simple Yes/No answer.
Using gaslighting laffing emojis as evasion.

@FxMasterz
Well-done, I like your insistence on your questions cuz that's exactly what he does and how he does it.

I have equally contributed on this issue on taxes and leadership in some other thread.

Most other countries have a working tax system..close to an ideal which is for the welfare and amenities of the same citizens paying the taxes.
Welfare and amenities-good roads, electricity, water, security, emergency services on fire, health, hazards, provision for windows and widowers, orphanage social services for parentless, preventive security and corrective security when needed.

Also importantly justice for the oppressed when needed as free legal services from same tax system.

All these provides citizens a sense of safety and serve as deterents for radicals and others who would likely cause mayhem.



I read somewhere that some countries are closing their prisons, due to efficent use of tax. This must have helped rehabilitate radical people or support low income in their society. Preventing a massive misdirected crisis y tackling root causes as they come.

Countries without fences, gigantic huge gates cuz the average citizen lives in a dignified way to worry and envy his neighbor to attack.

some countries even put shelves of books on the street for people to read cuz there's almost zero chance they will be stolen.

That's what good governance can do and bring.

Just as humans strive for righteousness and perfection I'm Christ but yet keep committing sin and thus are not worthy but still yet, God's finds it in his heart out of mercy to forgive us and receive the "Righteous" amongst us all into his kingdom; He never labeled us SATAN for our shortcomings..

So the government and politicians try to venture into that political space so as to touch more life positively via welfare on a larger scale and get the country or state Or LGA close to what an ideal region or nation should look like.
These aspiring kind hearted and "righteous" politicians could not have achieved these from their private businesses due to finance, connection and influential reasons but went as far as possible to improve the welfarism and justice of the common man will be rewarded.
God will also find it in his heart out of mercy to forgive and receive the "Righteous" amongst the politicians into his kingdom whose fruit yielded good for the populace he served.
God never labeled we individuals as SATAN for our shortcomings and so he won't also label his appointed politicians and rulers SATAN for their shortcomings in-service.
All will be judged according to their deeds.

MaxInDHouse:
Here you go again with misinterpretation.

Surely you don't know the meaning of that word "PERFECT"🙂

If you know you will slap any translator who use the word PERFECT for anyone other than Jesus Christ.

Of what use is Jesus if there are humans who are perfect?
Why must we accept Jesus as God's only begotten Son if there are humans who have proved to be PERFECT?🙂

My friend, if humans cannot be perfect, don't you think it'll be wickedness on God's part to command us to do what we cannot do?

"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect" (Matthew 5:48).

Why are we commanded to be perfect when we cannot? It will be wicked for you as a father to command your 4 year old to lift a 25kg keg of water when you know he can't. Even to promise him punishment if he doesn't lift it. Do you know that the Bible says "imperfection cannot inherit perfection"? To inherit God, you must be perfect like God. God gave you the Holy Spirit so that you can become like Jesus. Then, when we see Him, we shall also be like Him. That's the Bible.

God explicitly commanded us to be perfect, and the Scriptures say:

"His commandments are not grievous" (1 John 5:3)

That's to say, His commandments are not hard. His commandments for us to become perfect is not hard because He gave us His Holy Spirit as our enabler.

This is the Bible.

chimex38:
lol.. someone refused to answer if he's a Nigerian with NIN. Simple Yes/No or simply A/B.
took almost 3 pages explaining and explaining tire a simple Yes/No answer.
Using gaslighting laffing emojis as evasion.

@FxMasterz
Well-done, I like your insistence on your questions cuz that's exactly what he does and how he does it.

Thanks bro.

Maxindhouse is such an insincere individual. Whenever he sees that a question thrown at him has exposed his lies, he'll decline to answer the question. Instead, he'll be dribbling you. He's a real Madonna who has perfected the art of deceit. He will never answer any question that destroys his lying arguments.

FxMasterz:
Thanks bro.
Maxindhouse is such an insincere individual. Whenever he sees that a question thrown at him has exposed his lies, he'll decline to answer the question. Instead, he'll be dribbling you. He's a real Madonna who has perfected the art of deceit. He will never answer any question that destroys his lying arguments.

Continue deceiving yourself with your friends.

We all know that real disciples of Christ in the Bible never fought with anyone neither do they support any government that is why everyone back then hated them just as you are doing for JWs real disciples of Christ today!🙂