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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by TV01(m): 6:21pm On Apr 23
Zahra29:
As expected, but good to hear nonetheless.

Please explain the bolded...curious why the rampaging yobs wouldn't be motivated to attack you, but would attack the mixed heritage Kenyans?
The 2024 riots were ignited in Stockport after 3 young girls were slaughtered and a number of others brutally attacked and injured. People on here claim the riots were motivated by racism. Please ask them how many ethnic or religious minorities were harmed during the riots. What were the casualties. Ask them what the response would be if that happened back in their homelands

"Inherency" - you can't escape it.


TV
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by abuhusna1: 5:11am On Apr 24
Zahra29:
Prakash, the Indian-born Reform leader in Harrow, explains their reasoning 😋

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/23/british-indians-nigel-farage-reform-uk-harrow-local-elections
Usa history is replaying itself in the UK. All Latinos were busy chanting Latinos for Trump but it came back to bite them hard as they are the most target and most deported from USA by Trump. We will be here to mock them in fullness of time
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 9:36am On Apr 24
TV01:
Just calling it as I see it. I have watched - mostly from afar - Nigeria for decades. All nations have challenges. That's what humans are here for - to overcome them. The question is how and when will Nigeria develop to a degree that it's citizens are are able to live decent lives and be mostly content to live there.

Fine as far as it goes, but what does it mean? What does it tell us about the when and how for Nigeria?

I did'nt say the western model was the only solution. And I did ask what native "development would look like". However the case remains that the west could at least be used as a measure. And, like the wedding adage "something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue", Nigeria can look within or take anything from anywhere and incorporate it. There isn't even the need to invent anything new.


You didn't respond to my opener?

The first of the last 2, I don't know? Who can tell. Giving the benefit of hindsight and the knowledge of how we were, in what way is it likely that we would have developed?

I see nothing that gives me the belief that Nigeria can. And so far, it hasn't. It's for whoever believes Nigeria can, to describe how and when.

TV
You're asking me to guesstimate the future which no one can. I haven't watched Nigeria from afar - it's been my lived experience.

To insinuate that we had no history or would have amounted to nothing without colonialism is frankly absurd and belittling.
The imperialists acted in their own best interests and while somethings were picked up during that exchange, much more was lost. I don't see any indigenous people that were colonised who think the imperialists were their saviours.
If you're asking for a when i.e guesstimating the future, you'd get better luck gazing at glass crystals. Just like lots of societies had peaks in the past, Nigeria would have hers and recent history has shown tremendous development can be achieved quickly- even in a single generation.

It's quite telling that you belive a group of people lack the inate ability to build a functional society.
I'd end by saying one great impediment to our progress is sadly a group of people who think like you- folks who think others are inately better than them.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by willyede(m): 2:30pm On Apr 24
Zahra29:
Prakash, the Indian-born Reform leader in Harrow, explains their reasoning 😋

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/23/british-indians-nigel-farage-reform-uk-harrow-local-elections
Its just a pity that we do not learn from history

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 4:13pm On Apr 24
willyede:
Its just a pity that we do not learn from history
Humans generally do not learn from history. smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:35pm On Apr 25
TV01:
Yes.

We permit entry to people from diverse backgrounds and with dffering beliefs - in large numbers. It's quite clear, that for many of those, politically at least, conduct and participation vary in ways that are inimical to our long-held tradition and practices. Even if that wasn't clear previously, it is now.

And, I accept, there are some that would fit right in. But the protection of our institutions and systems is paramount. A few generations to settle in and understand won't hurt cheesy.


TV
By 'we' and 'our' you mean?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch:
"'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party."

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:31pm On Apr 25
Goodenoch:
"'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party."
Hehe...
Mk we no forget that all folks in Trumps inner caucus in his first term ultimately fell out with him.

Who says the second term wouldn't be worse.

Mk we dey observe as he changes the western narrative. All of a sudden, opposing Trump has become a vote winner
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by TV01(m):
jedisco:
By 'we' and 'our' you mean?
I mean
those who live here ancestrally, by birth-right or a regulated migration pathway, who love this nation and appreciate its history and traditions. Who strive for the nations good, and contribute at a minimum by being law-abiding and being or adopting the courteous, polite, warm and welcoming nature that is the hallmark of everyday British life. We are British and Britain is ours kiss.

I do not mean
I don't mean the passport ho's or the papers tarts, or the grifters, the mercenaries, who are only here for what they can gain. Who care not for the traditions, the history or the sacrifices that built this nation. Who don't really give a toss about continuing or building on that legacy, and the ongoing flourishing of this country. Those who could not care less what direction the nation goes as long as they prosper personally.

Not those who seek to introduce or impose inimical practices from alien lands, or insist that regressive foreign behaviour can be normalised, or that backward religious legal codes can or should be enforced over our native jurisprudence.

Nor those who hail from backward countries, but are ungrateful, entitled and demanding. Those who expect everything to bend to suit them. I don't mean those who arrive here from places were lawlessness is widely accepted and cry foul and play the victim when there is pushback, who can't accept that their lawlessness in not at least winked at, if not outright celebrated.

Neither those deluded, who keep telling us there is nothing here, but won't return to the utopias they fled from cheesy. Who deride what they find, but can't point to anything worth mimicking back home.

Hope that's clear. I'll be back to respond to your earlier mewling cum tap-out later.

Toodles.

TV
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 11:51pm On Apr 25
jedisco:
Hehe...
Mk we no forget that all folks in Trumps inner caucus in his first term ultimately fell out with him.

Who says the second term wouldn't be worse.


Mk we dey observe as he changes the western narrative. All of a sudden, opposing Trump has become a vote winner
😂 they were all deceiving themselves that the orange man was a changed man or will be a totally different person in the second term, me I just like how everyone who told us he was the chosen one Dey collect left right and centre, from all the MAGA podcasters to the European leaders including the uk who aligned with him from the onset, everywhere blur so tey the Argentines are being encouraged to fight for Falkland Islands the uk fought for and won years ago! Na to sit down chop popcorn Dey enjoy all the movie o!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 6:29am On Apr 26
TV01:
I mean
those who live here ancestrally, by birth-right or a regulated migration pathway, who love this nation and appreciate its history and traditions. Who strive for the nations good, and contribute at a minimum by being law-abiding and being or adopting the courteous, polite, warm and welcoming nature that is the hallmark of everyday British life. We are British and Britain is ours kiss.

I do not mean
I don't mean the passport ho's or the papers tarts, or the grifters, the mercenaries, who are only here for what they can gain. Who care not for the traditions, the history or the sacrifices that built this nation. Who don't really give a toss about continuing or building on that legacy, and the ongoing flourishing of this country. Those who could not care less what direction the nation goes as long as they prosper personally.

Not those who seek to introduce or impose inimical practices from alien lands, or insist that regressive foreign behaviour can be normalised, or that backward religious legal codes can or should be enforced over our native jurisprudence.

Nor those who hail from backward countries, but are ungrateful, entitled and demanding. Those who expect everything to bend to suit them. I don't mean those who arrive here from places were lawlessness is widely accepted and cry foul and play the victim when there is pushback, who can't accept that their lawlessness in not at least winked at, if not outright celebrated.

Neither those deluded, who keep telling us there is nothing here, but won't return to the utopias they fled from cheesy. Who deride what they find, but can't point to anything worth mimicking back home.

Hope that's clear. I'll be back to respond to your earlier mewling cum tap-out later.

Toodles.

TV
And where does the ancestral connection start?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:12am On Apr 26
Goke7:
😂 they were all deceiving themselves that the orange man was a changed man or will be a totally different person in the second term, me I just like how everyone who told us he was the chosen one Dey collect left right and centre, from all the MAGA podcasters to the European leaders including the uk who aligned with him from the onset, everywhere blur so tey the Argentines are being encouraged to fight for Falkland Islands the uk fought for and won years ago! Na to sit down chop popcorn Dey enjoy all the movie o!
Saw the Falklands headline and though I haven't read thru, it'd sure be an interesting narrative for Trump to push - one that'd sure anger the British
Another shooting it seems. This Trumps presidency is a daily opera
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by willyede(m): 9:17am On Apr 26
jedisco:
Saw the Falklands headline and though I haven't read thru, it'd sure be an interesting narrative for Trump to push - one that'd sure anger the British
Another shooting it seems. This Trumps presidency is a daily opera
That shooting feels and looks so so staged....Who says we cannot get on with the controversial ballroom project
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 6:51pm On Apr 26
jedisco:
Saw the Falklands headline and though I haven't read thru, it'd sure be an interesting narrative for Trump to push - one that'd sure anger the British
Another shooting it seems. This Trumps presidency is a daily opera
😂 The title of this movie: The Never Ending Story Part 2
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ghis202: 10:11pm On Apr 26
I have just received a UK visitor visa for 6 months. It is an eVisa, so there is no visa stamp in my passport.

Can I book a return flight with KLM from Lagos? Do KLM require a transit visa in this scenario?

Thank you.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by TV01(m):
jedisco:
You're asking me to guesstimate the future which no one can. I haven't watched Nigeria from afar - it's been my lived experience.
It must be hard. Living in what is a spiralling situation . Knowing what average, good or even great would look like. Knowing that it isn't even new and can't be that hard. But everyday you seem to be moving further away from what shouldn't be too difficult or take too long to achieve.

Nigeria has been your lived experience and yet you have no idea when it will get better, let alone good. You can't say with any confidence when and how it will get better or admit that it is fast deteriorating?

The cope must be painful. The strawman of "white-skin good, black skin bad" gives one a nice out and even the smugness of sounding virtuous, but it doesn't answer any questions.

No one is making the race argument, but the fact remains that societies arising out of the western cultural milieu are altogether better, generally more ordered, better administered and more advanced. The question of why that is and, how and when Nigeria will level up still remains.

If it helps, move away from Nigeria, Africa even. Indian nationals run Mag7 companies. Have high ranking operators in all the western nations where they have a significant presence. So it's clear it's nothing about them as humans beings, or their skin tone. But their home nation is still relatively backward.

"Why" is not an unreasonable question to ask? How India will level up should be in view. Especially when Indian nationals are flocking to the West. Because if those questions are not asked and Indians continue to migrate, what is that saying exactly?

jedisco:
To insinuate that we had no history or would have amounted to nothing without colonialism is frankly absurd and belittling.
On the contrary, no one said you had no history , culture or traditions. The question is "what in that culture, those traditions or the history suggest what Nigeria may have developed into in lieu of slavery, or absent colonialism.

I have heard all sorts. That left alone, Africans would have been launching satellites. The science "white" people used to advance, was stolen from "black" people. I hear it casually mentioned in black settings that black people have "better genes" or superior intellects - to nods of agreement.

Listen carefully. At the time of slavery, Africans were trading people for beads, mirrors and umbrellas. Nothing near the apex technologies or innovations the west had even then. Does that suggest an advanced technological society? Or one that would have produced automobiles before the west - if at all?

jedisco:
If you're asking for a when i.e guesstimating the future, you'd get better luck gazing at glass crystals. Just like lots of societies had peaks in the past, Nigeria would have hers and recent history has shown tremendous development can be achieved quickly- even in a single generation.
That's not true though is it? "Guesstimating" is not required. Modern developing economies can project, model, track indices, map strategies, set goals and objectives, review metrics. No guessing required sir.

"Nigeria would have hers" - when, how on what basis. Your whole spiel is assertion. Mere hope as best. Like I noted in my earlier response, you say a lot but make no cogent points. Nothing that is actionable or can be pinned down, tracked or reviewed.

Your point about "tremendous development being achieved in a single generation" makes the case against Nigeria, not for. The nations that "achieved" development of this nature, did it simply happen for them spontaneously, or out of nowhere? No roadmap, no vision, no blueprints?

All the developed nations had an upward trajectory. SA reverted to black-majority rule barely a generation ago. Is it as good today? Is it better? What is its trajectory?

jedisco:
It's quite telling that you belive a group of people lack the inate ability to build a functional society.
I'll give you double for your money. If you admit people from less-developed nations into a functional society at scale, it will experience
rapid deterioration - whatever their colour.

jedisco:
I'd end by saying one great impediment to our progress is sadly a group of people who think like you- folks who think others are inately better than them.
Yep, if TV01 says Jedisco can't progress, and Jedisco doesn't progress, it's TV01's fault for being a naysayer. Listen to yourself.


TV
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney:
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:49pm On Apr 28
Jamesclooney:
Dear Elders,

Does anyone know if the US Embassy in London is still issuing visas to Nigerian passport holders?

I have an appointment next month but I’m not sure whether it’s worth attending. The purpose is tourism/World Cup travel etc. (No family member in the USA)

I’ve paid for the appointment about a year ago and there’s no refund option, but I’m considering postponing until 2029 when Trump is gone 😂

Any advice or recent experience would be appreciated.

Thank you.
😂 even Iran that qualified to play at the World Cup e no sure for them!

There’s a visa ban list and Nigeria is sitting comfortably on the list. I doubt they will issue the visa even if you qualify from all I’ve been hearing! What I don’t know is if there is a waiver for those going to the World Cup!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Fred2020: 10:47am On Apr 29
ghis202:
I have just received a UK visitor visa for 6 months. It is an eVisa, so there is no visa stamp in my passport.

Can I book a return flight with KLM from Lagos? Do KLM require a transit visa in this scenario?

Thank you.
Your question isn't clear. Why do you think you may need a transit visa? are you transiting through another country?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Fred2020: 10:55am On Apr 29
Zahra29:
Prakash, the Indian-born Reform leader in Harrow, explains their reasoning 😋

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/23/british-indians-nigel-farage-reform-uk-harrow-local-elections
A lady applied for a visitor's visa, arrived in the UK & instead hussled for a job while on a visitors visa. Today she is Reform's banner holder in London...... grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 2:05pm On Apr 29
Fred2020:
A lady applied for a visitor's visa, arrived in the UK & instead[b] hussled for a job while on a visitors visa[/b]. Today she is Reform's banner holder in London...... grin
Actually, that's the standard process for international medical graduates to get jobs in the UK?
You come to the UK to take PLAB 2 on a standard 6 month visitor visa.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 5:36pm On Apr 30
Where did Kier Starmer and the Labour Party go wrong That they are losing trust of voters so rapidly.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:16pm On Apr 30
lavida001:
Where did Kier Starmer and the Labour Party go wrong That they are losing trust of voters so rapidly.
😂 they all decamped to reform party but just maintaining as card carrying members of Labour
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NewT123: 9:25pm On Apr 30
Hi guys, I applied for renewal of my Nigerian passport and completed my biometrics using the contactless option exactly 2 weeks ago. I also sent my passport to the high commission with the £20 postal order and ensure all procedures were correct.

However for the past 2 weeks, the tracker has not passed “enrolled” and still awaiting passport production approval. Please is this normal? If not, how do I chase for an update

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 1:15am On May 01
lavida001:
Where did Kier Starmer and the Labour Party go wrong That they are losing trust of voters so rapidly.
His government is full of u - turns and failing to deliver on key issues, they booted the conservatives on the ass about........ 🤔😂

That Mandelson saga, he cannot seem to escape from..... 😊
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:57am On May 01
It’s coming.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul:
lavida001:
It’s coming.
Why do I feel this will be somehow be blamed on immigrants? smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 6:27am On May 02
Job opportunities with the civil service........ 360 slots available..... Try your luck...... 😂😊

https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/csr/jobs.cgi?jcode=1996187
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 11:44am On May 02
lavida001:
It’s coming.
Scary, admittedly (see also: https://www.axios.com/2026/04/29/ai-models-speed-warning), but the jury's still out on just how much damage to the labour market this will eventually cause.
Ultimately, everyone can't become a plumber or handyperson of sorts and the [developed] world's governments can't allow their populations to end up on the streets or on unfunded benefits while tech bros feed fat, otherwise there'll be massive societal chaos.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch:
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 9:13am On May 03
Goodenoch:
Welp - https://www.birminghamdispatch.co.uk/exclusive-shabana-mahmoods-postal-ballot-was-investigated-in-a-2004-vote-rigging-scandal-in-birmingham/?ref=dispatch-newsletter#/share.
Shots fired.
There's a leadership race in prospect, so more of the same expected. Big Ange isn't taking any prisoners.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Taal17: 1:15pm On May 03
NewT123:
Hi guys, I applied for renewal of my Nigerian passport and completed my biometrics using the contactless option exactly 2 weeks ago. I also sent my passport to the high commission with the £20 postal order and ensure all procedures were correct.

However for the past 2 weeks, the tracker has not passed “enrolled” and still awaiting passport production approval. Please is this normal? If not, how do I chase for an update
Don't be too concerned about the tracker not showing. It doesn't always update in real time.
Wait for another week, it should be delivered by then.
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