₦airaland Forum

TV01:
It must be hard. Living in what is a spiralling situation . Knowing what average, good or even great would look like. Knowing that it isn't even new and can't be that hard. But everyday you seem to be moving further away from what shouldn't be too difficult or take too long to achieve.

Nigeria has been your lived experience and yet you have no idea when it will get better, let alone good. You can't say with any confidence when and how it will get better or admit that it is fast deteriorating?

The cope must be painful. The strawman of "white-skin good, black skin bad" gives one a nice out and even the smugness of sounding virtuous, but it doesn't answer any questions.

No one is making the race argument, but the fact remains that societies arising out of the western cultural milieu are altogether better, generally more ordered, better administered and more advanced. The question of why that is and, how and when Nigeria will level up still remains.

If it helps, move away from Nigeria, Africa even. Indian nationals run Mag7 companies. Have high ranking operators in all the western nations where they have a significant presence. So it's clear it's nothing about them as humans beings, or their skin tone. But their home nation is still relatively backward.

"Why" is not an unreasonable question to ask? How India will level up should be in view. Especially when Indian nationals are flocking to the West. Because if those questions are not asked and Indians continue to migrate, what is that saying exactly?

On the contrary, no one said you had no history , culture or traditions. The question is "what in that culture, those traditions or the history suggest what Nigeria may have developed into in lieu of slavery, or absent colonialism.

I have heard all sorts. That left alone, Africans would have been launching satellites. The science "white" people used to advance, was stolen from "black" people. I hear it casually mentioned in black settings that black people have "better genes" or superior intellects - to nods of agreement.

Listen carefully. At the time of slavery, Africans were trading people for beads, mirrors and umbrellas. Nothing near the apex technologies or innovations the west had even then. Does that suggest an advanced technological society? Or one that would have produced automobiles before the west - if at all?

That's not true though is it? "Guesstimating" is not required. Modern developing economies can project, model, track indices, map strategies, set goals and objectives, review metrics. No guessing required sir.

"Nigeria would have hers" - when, how on what basis. Your whole spiel is assertion. Mere hope as best. Like I noted in my earlier response, you say a lot but make no cogent points. Nothing that is actionable or can be pinned down, tracked or reviewed.

Your point about "tremendous development being achieved in a single generation" makes the case against Nigeria, not for. The nations that "achieved" development of this nature, did it simply happen for them spontaneously, or out of nowhere? No roadmap, no vision, no blueprints?

All the developed nations had an upward trajectory. SA reverted to black-majority rule barely a generation ago. Is it as good today? Is it better? What is its trajectory?

I'll give you double for your money. If you admit people from less-developed nations into a functional society at scale, it will experience
rapid deterioration - whatever their colour.

Yep, if TV01 says Jedisco can't progress, and Jedisco doesn't progress, it's TV01's fault for being a naysayer. Listen to yourself.


TV

Goodenoch:
No.

Cyberknight:
Actually, that's the standard process for international medical graduates to get jobs in the UK?
You come to the UK to take PLAB 2 on a standard 6 month visitor visa.

lavida001:
Where did Kier Starmer and the Labour Party go wrong That they are losing trust of voters so rapidly.

jedisco:
I'd respond to both your quotes at once.

jedisco:
Your writings are too verbose' rash and scattered for someone who considers his 'we group' to be the 'true Brits'. One thing I appreciate about the British is their use of the language. A properly educated Brit would say/write same thing you said but in few lines while still passing across the same meaning.

jedisco:
It must take a special form of emptiness to feel the need to always voice ones nationality on a faceless forum. One would ask- is that all there is to your life?

jedisco:
The problem we have in the UK today is when folks like you who are probably on benefits with little or no economic contribution have an overinflated ego thinking we're still in the days of the British empire when in actual fact that's long gone and the current generation face the prospect of having poorer outcomes than their parents.

jedisco:
Now that spambot abi mods don free me... mk I continue my mussings.

jedisco:
First- At what point in the psyche of some first/second gen migrants do they start seeing themselves as the 'chosen group' 'better than others' or 'gatekeepers'? This is rampant even in politics today- folks whose parents came on a boat or as asylum seekers (not that any of that matters) would turn around and say 'my parents were not like them' when referring to perfectly legal residents. What's worse is that it's mainly on recent migrants dem dey get power.

jedisco:
It's no longer enough to be here or even be a citizen. You now have to be part of their special group of ever-increasing senselessness. We'd soon be hearing phrases with 'we the Brits hardcore', Brit XL, Brit promax. Abi Brit-Roman, Brit-AngloSaxon, Brit-Jute e.t.c. Personally, na Brit-landlord group I dey wait. Na that one be my calling.

jedisco:
In all, opinions are like a**holes... everybody has one.
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jedisco:
Now that spambot abi mods don free me... mk I continue my mussings.


Talking about 'we groups'. Two things have always got me wondering.


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TV01:
This has to be one of the most pathetic and weak responses I have ever come across - on anything, anywhere. Is that it? After being unable to adequately respond or make any kind of decent a case for a discussion point you yourself raised, you regress to slurs and accusations? It's worse for Nigeria and Nigerians than I actually thought.

What you have written is not a response. Unless you can call the recent outings of people like Daniel Bwala and Lai Mohammed responses - it's closer to the open defecation you are probably well familiar with.

This is just poor. Whatever the quality of my writing, what I described was "patriotism". Based solely on a legitimate right to be here and based on a love for the flourishing of this nation - not any other personal characteristic or attribute. Not ability or the lack thereof.

But why am I not surprised. Notions such as patriotism, a sense of commonwealth, the rule of law, high-trust societies and the like can't compute with the likes of you. People who cannot see beyond their tribalism and inordinate desire for self-aggrandisement.

I wouldn't know? Are you able to show instances. I can't help your inability to comprehend reality, or your denial of the fact that there is currently nothing to evidence the claim that Nigeria will ever make it to a level of basic self-owned decency. Indeed, your ramblings here prove it. Your rubbish would make Reno Omokri Blush and FFK call in sick .


The problem "we" . You cant make this up. Are you reading yourself - you can determine "we", but I can't present my own opinion .

The fact that basic welfare is available - not whether I am in receipt of it or not - is testament against your mentality and your country' inability to manage even the basics. It takes a certain kind of compassion,, benevolence and regard for others to have social welfare.

Yes, we understand the empire is part of a great past. That empire is no more. We know that things are not as good as were, even taking a downturn. But we still love old Blighty and aren't majorly running off to grift and crap over other nations with regressive behaviour, backward practices and lawlessness.

Now, any blueprint, pathway, vision, models, data, thumbnail or any other evidence to the fact that Nigeria will at some point make reasonable progress in terms of development - not assertions, claims, or sheer "force of will" because Jedi-Jedisco, assures us it will happen .


TV

Taal17:
Don't be too concerned about the tracker not showing. It doesn't always update in real time.
Wait for another week, it should be delivered by then.

Goodenoch:
To be honest I don’t know why people are taking someone who signs their initials on Nairaland posts seriously 😄

E say na ‘TV’😂 come on nau. TV nìkan kọ́, Television ni

What more proof do you need that posturing on Nairaland and writing those long-winded, pompous but essentially meaningless posts is how they derive satisfaction in life?

Arguing with him and his like will just stress you out for no reason because they clearly just love to hear themselves talk and everything you say will just be seen as an opportunity to bloviate some more.

Goodenoch:
To be honest I don’t know why people are taking someone who signs their initials on Nairaland posts seriously 😄

E say na ‘TV’😂 come on nau. TV nìkan kọ́, Television ni

What more proof do you need that posturing on Nairaland and writing those long-winded, pompous but essentially meaningless posts is how they derive satisfaction in life?

Arguing with him and his like will just stress you out for no reason because they clearly just love to hear themselves talk and everything you say will just be seen as an opportunity to bloviate some more.

Zahra29:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0m2wjlkzplo

A UK immigration officer has been found guilty of working for Chinese intelligence as part of a "shadow policing operation".

Chi Leung "Peter" Wai, 38, used his access to the main immigration database to track Hong Kong dissidents based in the UK.

😬😬😬

lavida001:
Where did Kier Starmer and the Labour Party go wrong That they are losing trust of voters so rapidly.

justwise:
I don't know if anyone here is experiencing this ... i recently linked my BVN to two different Nigeria investment apps and i noticed a spelling mistake in my name, i called the bank and they checked but found no spelling mistake in my BVN or bank details.

Controlv:
Which investment apps are you using if you don't mind sharing? I am stucked at the verification stage with SFS fund and they are not responding to emails.

RodgersAkpafu:
I have one question for the Nigerians who voted for Reform yesterday.

Are you okay at all?

RodgersAkpafu:
I have one question for the Nigerians who voted for Reform yesterday.

Are you okay at all?

jedisco:
The NL spambot is set up in an awkward manner.
The criteria upon which it bans words is quite vague and varied. For a while, I noticed words like st0cks, e.t.c related to investing can attract a ban in a weird in a non-specific manner. NL is the only fora where I see this happening.

Even if a post is automatically banned, it should be reviewed by a human and if valid, the ban extended. If not (and recurrent), the coding for the bot looked into. There should be AI spambots that get better with time. Let Seun know to look into this.

Controlv:
Possibly a system glitch. Cowrywise couldn't validate by BVN yesterday; says its incorrect. I've tried again this morning and it went through at first attempt.


Which investment apps are you using if you don't mind sharing? I am stucked at the verification stage with SFS fund and they are not responding to emails.

ReesheesuKnack:
In one country I know, a supply teacher can NEVER EVER afford to buy the party nomination forms from his salary. Heck, a University Professor may not afford the money.

ReesheesuKnack:
Not dissimilar to Nigerians who vote(d) Tinubu or Buhari or Goodluck or Yar’adua or Obasanjo.

ReesheesuKnack:
Not dissimilar to Nigerians who vote(d) Tinubu or Buhari or Goodluck or Yar’adua or Obasanjo.