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Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by searchng4love: 9:16am On Jun 11
dgr8truth:
Our growing intolerance for opposing views is deeply concerning. We cannot condemn the government for being intolerant of criticism while exhibiting the same behavior ourselves.

A healthy society is built on the free exchange of ideas, not the suppression of opinions we disagree with. We do not have to agree on everything, but we must learn to engage differing perspectives with reason, respect, and maturity.

The true test of our commitment to free speech is not how we treat opinions we like, but how we respond to those we oppose.
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Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by SonOfDSoil01: 9:17am On Jun 11
Pakute:
https://punchng.com/insecurity-reps-vote-on-state-police-bill-thursday/
finally some good news…..they should save us the bureaucracy and expedite action on the bill so every state can be held accountable for the security of life’s and property…..Nigeria is too big to just be controlled by a centralised police system which is not in conform with the reality of the modern day security challenge.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by onuman: 9:19am On Jun 11
DesireV:
I hope the bill clearly addresses the qualification requirements for recruitment and other problems affecting the NPF.

All those state traffic agencies give a good insight into how state controlled paramilitary agencies can look like. They simply put their political thugs and party members who now constitute public nuisance and menace in the name of performing their duties.

Minimum must be HND or BSc. Refined intelligence driven policing is all we need.

Also, they must be adequately remunerated.

The chain of command should be shared with the judiciary too. Leaving it completely to the executives who are purely politicians, as we currently have is ineffective and evil. At least, judiciary is the only technocrat driven arms of government.
Heads of State/Regional police are elected by the people in Europe.
The head of the police takes charge of recruitment.
He is not appointed by the state government. He answers to the state but with limitations to the state governor. He answers to public opinion mainly.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by truthhurts2: 9:20am On Jun 11
Kukutente23:
Kudos to Gov Seyi Makinde of Oyo state for putting FG on their toes regarding the issue of state police

The important thing now is to see the bill so as to know the framework the Federal hawks will be seeking for state police because a state police that is made subservient to the Federal police is no police at all. They must have equal rights and powers within their area of jurisdiction with total control by their governors
Pls pardon my ignorance, what's the benefits of the state police? Cos I've been seeing and reading about it for quite some time but I still don't get it. Can you or anyone else explain it to me in details please?
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by Ttalk: 9:25am On Jun 11
dgr8truth:
State police is not a guarantee of a crime-free society. Crime exists in countries with highly decentralized policing systems just as it exists in countries with centralized policing systems. The effectiveness of law enforcement depends less on who controls the police and more on the quality of institutions, accountability mechanisms, intelligence gathering, training, funding, and the rule of law.

While proponents of state police argue that it will bring security closer to the people and improve local intelligence, there are legitimate concerns about the potential for abuse. In a political environment where democratic institutions are still evolving, placing armed security structures directly under the control of state governments may create opportunities for political intimidation, suppression of opposition voices, election manipulation, and abuse of power.

The fundamental issue facing Nigeria's policing system is not merely its centralized structure but its lack of operational independence. A police force that is truly professional and independent should be loyal to the constitution and the law, not to politicians at any level of government. Whether the police are controlled from Abuja or from state capitals, political interference will continue to undermine effectiveness if institutional safeguards are weak.

What Nigeria urgently needs is a framework that guarantees the actual independence of the police. This should include transparent appointment processes, secure tenure for senior officers, independent oversight bodies, protection from political pressure, improved welfare for personnel, and strict accountability mechanisms for misconduct. Such reforms would allow law enforcement agencies to act professionally without fear or favor.

Security is ultimately a function of strong institutions rather than the level of government that controls them. Creating state police without first addressing the issues of accountability, professionalism, and political interference risks decentralizing the existing problems rather than solving them. The goal should not simply be to create more police forces, but to build security institutions that are independent, competent, accountable, and trusted by the citizens they serve.

A truly independent police force, backed by strong laws and oversight mechanisms, is more likely to deliver lasting security than merely transferring control from the federal government to the states.
Is it not better your governor abuse the power than leave it in the hands of killer bandit and terrorist?

In this case, the governors are the lesser evil
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by DesireV: 9:34am On Jun 11
onuman:
Heads of State/Regional police are elected by the people in Europe.
The head of the police takes charge of recruitment.
He is not appointed by the state government. He answers to the state but with limitations to the state governor. He answers to public opinion mainly.
Well, events have proven that we can never just copy/paste Western world's ways. Africans are different. We can only understudy their ways, then adapt it to cater for our peculiarities. Doing just what they're doing will never give the result they got. See our elections.

Electing head of state police in Nigeria will create bigger problems than we are trying to solve. Imagine head of police in different party from the Governor. It'll also push politicians to set the standard so very low.

Personally, the idea of state police seem scary, especially in states with marginalised minorities. It'll just be a legalised tool to properly torment the minorities in addition to being the governor's political tool.

A regional police will be better. It'll offer lesser bias, pooled funding, and an avenue to consider a return to regional system that our forefathers took over.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by mrkings84(m): 9:41am On Jun 11
One thing is sure, APC can't tackle insecurities. Although they created them, but it's gone beyond what they thought...
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by math2001:
What you need is not state police, it is locàl government council police that is what you need . This is what other country have abroad

Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by BioData45: 9:50am On Jun 11
dgr8truth:
State police is not a guarantee of a crime-free society. Crime exists in countries with highly decentralized policing systems just as it exists in countries with centralized policing systems. The effectiveness of law enforcement depends less on who controls the police and more on the quality of institutions, accountability mechanisms, intelligence gathering, training, funding, and the rule of law.

While proponents of state police argue that it will bring security closer to the people and improve local intelligence, there are legitimate concerns about the potential for abuse. In a political environment where democratic institutions are still evolving, placing armed security structures directly under the control of state governments may create opportunities for political intimidation, suppression of opposition voices, election manipulation, and abuse of power.

The fundamental issue facing Nigeria's policing system is not merely its centralized structure but its lack of operational independence. A police force that is truly professional and independent should be loyal to the constitution and the law, not to politicians at any level of government. Whether the police are controlled from Abuja or from state capitals, political interference will continue to undermine effectiveness if institutional safeguards are weak.

What Nigeria urgently needs is a framework that guarantees the actual independence of the police. This should include transparent appointment processes, secure tenure for senior officers, independent oversight bodies, protection from political pressure, improved welfare for personnel, and strict accountability mechanisms for misconduct. Such reforms would allow law enforcement agencies to act professionally without fear or favor.

Security is ultimately a function of strong institutions rather than the level of government that controls them. Creating state police without first addressing the issues of accountability, professionalism, and political interference risks decentralizing the existing problems rather than solving them. The goal should not simply be to create more police forces, but to build security institutions that are independent, competent, accountable, and trusted by the citizens they serve.

A truly independent police force, backed by strong laws and oversight mechanisms, is more likely to deliver lasting security than merely transferring control from the federal government to the states.
State police is the solution. This will evolve into having effective community policing. No be everything we go dey speak English for.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by GraciousEnergy: 9:54am On Jun 11
[quote author=Pakute post=139677002]If Federal Police cannot stop insecurity, State Police will not stop it either. The problem is in the corruption..more police without reformation is just more corruption. The Police needs to be totally rehabilitated.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by Pastorsarynzay: 10:05am On Jun 11
Anybody opposing state police is a fool
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by onuman: 10:12am On Jun 11
Y
dgr8truth:
State police is not a guarantee of a crime-free society. Crime exists in countries with highly decentralized policing systems just as it exists in countries with centralized policing systems. The effectiveness of law enforcement depends less on who controls the police and more on the quality of institutions, accountability mechanisms, intelligence gathering, training, funding, and the rule of law.

While proponents of state police argue that it will bring security closer to the people and improve local intelligence, there are legitimate concerns about the potential for abuse. In a political environment where democratic institutions are still evolving, placing armed security structures directly under the control of state governments may create opportunities for political intimidation, suppression of opposition voices, election manipulation, and abuse of power.

The fundamental issue facing Nigeria's policing system is not merely its centralized structure but its lack of operational independence. A police force that is truly professional and independent should be loyal to the constitution and the law, not to politicians at any level of government. Whether the police are controlled from Abuja or from state capitals, political interference will continue to undermine effectiveness if institutional safeguards are weak.

What Nigeria urgently needs is a framework that guarantees the actual independence of the police. This should include transparent appointment processes, secure tenure for senior officers, independent oversight bodies, protection from political pressure, improved welfare for personnel, and strict accountability mechanisms for misconduct. Such reforms would allow law enforcement agencies to act professionally without fear or favor.

Security is ultimately a function of strong institutions rather than the level of government that controls them. Creating state police without first addressing the issues of accountability, professionalism, and political interference risks decentralizing the existing problems rather than solving them. The goal should not simply be to create more police forces, but to build security institutions that are independent, competent, accountable, and trusted by the citizens they serve.

A truly independent police force, backed by strong laws and oversight mechanisms, is more likely to deliver lasting security than merely transferring control from the federal government to the states.
You take an Okechukwu from the southeast who doesn't understand Hausa language and culture to go to Police a place in Hausa land. He will fail to Police the place.

You take a Muhammadu from Arewa who does not understand Igbo language and culture to go to Police the southeast. He will fail to Police the place
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by atiku4President(m): 10:20am On Jun 11
This is a welcome development. Let Tinubu do this and write his name in the history book.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 10:38am On Jun 11
The man probably don't wanna act and deal with the situation because if he does,
His secrets (how he got in will be exposed)


This one requires divine intervention.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by HelipsTech: 10:44am On Jun 11
They should be voting on impeachment not that fruitless bill.

Gone are the days of Saraki, and Dogara, they threatened Buhari with impeachment. This mandate abi manh00d suckers, can never ever try it.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by jahsharon: 10:45am On Jun 11
Only Tinubu is bold enough to establish State Police which several military heads of state could not
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by bjdon: 10:50am On Jun 11
commoditiesnig:
Very good.. they should pass it fast, then Senate as well as state houses of assembly pass the bill fast.

We need State Police implemented asap.

Although I’d have preferred REGIONAL POLICING instead
Regions do not exist in the Nigerian constitution, they are mere political creations. Also nothing stops police forces from neighbouring states co-operating with each other and even having joint operational systems
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by bentenny(m): 10:56am On Jun 11
Without sounding like a broken record,any state policing structure without the necessary safeguards like funding and reduction to the nearest minimum the influence of political office holders,will be a recipe for disaster!
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by cedricksly: 11:25am On Jun 11
The system and constitution part that recognizes house of rep is a very stupid part and cost the government money unneccessarily. They are not doing anything there, they are just spending Nigeria tax payer money... A single legislative arm of government is more than enough if they know what they afe doing. Because Tell me why they will pass bill and it has to still be OK by the senate first? Isn't that proof that it is a waste of tax payers money
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by Nemesis0147(m): 11:42am On Jun 11
bewla:
Was kanu fighting for state police or succession from Nigeria

Tell us because this history is not yet up twelve years o
you see your life?
He said Benjamin kalu not Kanu

Ndi history
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by commoditiesnig(m): 12:54pm On Jun 11
bjdon:
Regions do not exist in the Nigerian constitution, they are mere political creations. Also nothing stops police forces from neighbouring states co-operating with each other and even having joint operational systems
Well noted 👍🏻
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by Ovieemmanuel: 1:00pm On Jun 11
Na still junkies dem go pack full am.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by bewla(m): 2:49pm On Jun 11
Nemesis0147:
you see your life?
He said Benjamin kalu not Kanu

Ndi history
thanks for pointing it out

I won't mind the ndi history part
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by seunayantokun(m): 3:48pm On Jun 11
State police and state prison service please. State judiciary system already exists. Then a state can enforce its law as contained in the constitution, and when necessary, the federal security architecture can offer assistance. You can be sure insecurity will gradually lose its grips. Though there will still be a lot of things to do.
Re: Insecurity: House Of Reps Vote On State Police Bill Today by darediamond(m): 3:24am On Jun 12
dgr8truth:
State police is not a guarantee of a crime-free society. Crime exists in countries with highly decentralized policing systems just as it exists in countries with centralized policing systems. The effectiveness of law enforcement depends less on who controls the police and more on the quality of institutions, accountability mechanisms, intelligence gathering, training, funding, and the rule of law.

While proponents of state police argue that it will bring security closer to the people and improve local intelligence, there are legitimate concerns about the potential for abuse. In a political environment where democratic institutions are still evolving, placing armed security structures directly under the control of state governments may create opportunities for political intimidation, suppression of opposition voices, election manipulation, and abuse of power.

The fundamental issue facing Nigeria's policing system is not merely its centralized structure but its lack of operational independence. A police force that is truly professional and independent should be loyal to the constitution and the law, not to politicians at any level of government. Whether the police are controlled from Abuja or from state capitals, political interference will continue to undermine effectiveness if institutional safeguards are weak.

What Nigeria urgently needs is a framework that guarantees the actual independence of the police. This should include transparent appointment processes, secure tenure for senior officers, independent oversight bodies, protection from political pressure, improved welfare for personnel, and strict accountability mechanisms for misconduct. Such reforms would allow law enforcement agencies to act professionally without fear or favor.

Security is ultimately a function of strong institutions rather than the level of government that controls them. Creating state police without first addressing the issues of accountability, professionalism, and political interference risks decentralizing the existing problems rather than solving them. The goal should not simply be to create more police forces, but to build security institutions that are independent, competent, accountable, and trusted by the citizens they serve.

A truly independent police force, backed by strong laws and oversight mechanisms, is more likely to deliver lasting security than merely transferring control from the federal government to the states.
You go explain tire!
Will State Policing not stop the Britain-Backed Fulanis Killing Every Other People Of Indigenous Tribes Of Nigeria?
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