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afrodoc:
That fee is for clubs like Man City whose squad is nearly complete and need only 1 or 2 cherry on top signings and who also have the deep pockets to have a 100m player like Grealish flop and not have any major negative effects.

We need 5 to 6 buys this summer not 1 or 2. We can buy 2 top quality midfielders for between 120m-140m.

Was grealish really a flop? He was a key player in their treble season and also helped them win multiple trophies.


Flops are Sancho and Anthony that offered nothing and barely played two full seasons before going out on loan.

😂😂

spillo1:
Was grealish really a flop? He was a key player in their treble season and also helped them win multiple trophies.


Flops are Sancho and Anthony that offered nothing and barely played two full seasons before going out on loan.

The treble season he was a 100m pound player with 5 goals in 50 games. 0 goal in 13 European games. Not a goalkeeper or defender o.

In 4 seasons at high scoring Man City he scored a combined total of 12 league goals. Mbeumo scored 11 goals this season and fans still wanted more.

If a 100m pound attacking player averaging 3 league goals per season is not a flop then we have different definitions of the term.

afrodoc2:
The treble season he was a 100m pound player with 5 goals in 50 games. 0 goal in 13 European games. Not a goalkeeper or defender o.

In 4 seasons at high scoring Man City he scored a combined total of 12 league goals. Mbeumo scored 11 goals this season and fans still wanted more.

If a 100m pound attacking player averaging 3 league goals per season is not a flop then we have different definitions of the term.

To me, a player who was a regular starter for a team that won the treble, while also contributing to multiple league and cup title simply cannot be labelled a flop. If that's what a flop looks like I wish our own flops made that kind of impact even for one season.

spillo1:
To me, a player who was a regular starter for a team that won the treble, while also contributing to multiple league and cup title simply cannot be labelled a flop. If that's what a flop looks like I wish our own flops made that kind of impact even for one season.

Like i said, we have different definitions of flop.

spillo1:
To me, a player who was a regular starter for a team that won the treble, while also contributing to multiple league and cup title simply cannot be labelled a flop. If that's what a flop looks like I wish our own flops made that kind of impact even for one season.

Contribute wetin? They just listed the abysmal "contribution" of an attacking winger and you are talking about impact. Someone had 12 league goals in 4 seasons and you think that's an impact? He has such an impact and he's been bundled out on loan?

Imagine Mbuemo and Cunha scoring an average of 4 goals a season, wouldn't we be fighting for relegation this season?

He didn't contribute for multiple league titles. He was a parasite feeding off other's contributions. Semenyo in 3 to 4 months has had more impact than Grealish in 4 years. You don't know what an impact means for real.

Illimitable:
He doesn’t! Everyone keeps saying this but the player hasn’t actually decided where he’s going.

This is INEOS drip-feeding their media hacks to make it look like the player made a decision and there was nothing they could do to get the player.

Nottingham Forest have a price on the asset. If United maych the price, they will get the player. INEOS don’t want to spend such a big fee on one player so they are using underhanded tactics to fool Man Utd fans.

When Semenyo chose Man City, we all saw the news before the transfer.

EVen if he prefers United. We're not in the position to spend that type of money on 1 player.

Beorn:
Contribute wetin? They just listed the abysmal "contribution" of an attacking winger and you are talking about impact. Someone had 12 league goals in 4 seasons and you think that's an impact? He has such an impact and he's been bundled out on loan?

Imagine Mbuemo and Cunha scoring an average of 4 goals a season, wouldn't we be fighting for relegation this season?

He didn't contribute for multiple league titles. He was a parasite feeding off other's contributions. Semenyo in 3 to 4 months has had more impact than Grealish in 4 years. You don't know what an impact means for real.

He was a key member of city treble winning team. He started every ucl knockout match, ucl final and the Fa cup final. Do you think Pep would trust and continue to start him if he wasn't delivering as expected?

He was a key member in delivering multiple titles and can never be a flop.

MRTA7:
EVen if he prefers United. We're not in the position to spend that type of money on 1 player.

Why aren’t United in that position? INEOS promised to bring in the best in class. They sacked Amorim because he asked for midfielders in January. They said they don’t want to buy half-baked players just for the sake of buying. They told everyone Anderson was the main target for the past 9 months.

Why are you guys letting INEOS get away with murder? United will never win the PL with this attitude in the market. Man City getting Anderson makes it more difficult for United to finish 1st because both clubs are competing in the same competition.

If United are going to lose him, let it be to the clubs outside the PL.

spillo1:
He was a key member of city treble winning team. He started every ucl knockout match, ucl final and the Fa cup final. Do you think Pep would trust and continue to start him if he wasn't delivering as expected?

He was a key member in delivering multiple titles and can never be a flop.

Grealish was a massive flop at Man City.

spillo1:
He was a key member of city treble winning team. He started every ucl knockout match, ucl final and the Fa cup final. Do you think Pep would trust and continue to start him if he wasn't delivering as expected?

He was a key member in delivering multiple titles and can never be a flop.

Pep trust him and still sent him out on loan? Why didn't Pep send out the likes of Haaland, KdB, Rodri, Bernardo, Foden on loan after all he trusts them too and they contributed to multiple titles?

He's key member of the UCL squad. Oya what was his contribution to the UCL? State them let me see coz it has been stated already which is an eyesore and it seem you have another version of his contribution I don't know of. State his contribution in the UCL.

Beorn:
Pep trust him and still sent him out on loan? Why didn't Pep send out the likes of Haaland, KdB, Rodri, Bernardo, Foden on loan after all he trusts them too and they contributed to multiple titles?

He's key member of the UCL squad. Oya what was his contribution to the UCL? State them let me see coz it has been stated already which is an eyesore and it seem you have another version of his contribution I don't know of. State his contribution in the UCL.

I really don't have time for this merry go round. For pep to trust in him to start all key matches already showed how important he was to their treble run. A player that was a key member of a treble winning team cannot be a flop.

The moment Anderson gets sold for £120M or thereabout ,the price of every other target will increase. Every club will point to this deal & ask for a higher price. West ham will not budge on their £85M valuation of Matheus. We need to move faster.

spillo1:
I really don't have time for this merry go round. For pep to trust in him to start all key matches already showed how important he was to their treble run. A player that was a key member of a treble winning team cannot be a flop.

So for a £100m player with 17 goals total as a wing forward for City in 4 years and 0 goals in UCL in those years, it's his 35 chances created in the UCL that makes a success? 35 chances created for £100m in 4 seasons? Are you kidding me?

This flop scored only 3 goals in 2023/2024 season and another 3 goals in 2024/2025 season for City as a wing forward and you're using 35 chances created in UCL to call him a success? You must be taking the piss.

Illimitable:
Man Utd have had 12 months to sort out their abysmal midfield. They should be throwing everything at Anderson. He’s worth more than £120m.

When Arsenal signed Rice 3 years ago for £105m, Rice wasn’t this “Anderson” good. We have seen players like Caicedo and Enzo Fernandes with £100m+ fees many years ago. Why is INEOS reluctant to pay the top dollar for an amazing player?

I prefer we split that 120 million in three, then use it to get 3 average or slightly above average midfielders that will do same job as Anderson.

Beorn:
So for a £100m player with 17 goals total as a wing forward for City in 4 years and 0 goals in UCL in those years, it's his 35 chances created in the UCL that makes a success? 35 chances created for £100m in 4 seasons? Are you kidding me?

This flop scored only 3 goals in 2023/2024 season and another 3 goals in 2024/2025 season for City as a wing forward and you're using 35 chances created in UCL to call him a success? You must be taking the piss.

At City the so called flop are key players in winning their team a treble and creating the most chances in their champions league run. I wish our flops like Sancho and Anthony could have had such impacts.

A key player for a treble winning side with the most chances created in their ucl run is a flop. Not even average or just ok but a failure lol.

spillo1:
A key player for a treble winning side with the most chances created in their ucl run is a flop. Not even average or just ok but a failure lol.

How many goal contributions did he have in the UCL that season and what was his usual position then?

dreamxhaser:
I prefer we split that 120 million in three, then use it to get 3 average or slightly above average midfielders that will do same job as Anderson.

Yeah, like when United got Donny Van De Beek when Partey or Declan Rice was required. What eventually happened to Van De Beek? Sold at a loss.

Elite players win you elite trophies. It’s the reason City have been top for so long. If United want to compete for the PL next season while playing in Europe, they need quality players.

Man United will not drop any fee even on par with the Harry Maguire cash on a single player für the foreseeable future. I'll project as much as the next decade.
the Ederson deal, amongst other merit, serve as an intangible guard when the club sits at negotiations for midfielders this summer.
it is clear the club already has its targets, and names will be thrown around by insiders as a negotiating gimmick so it appears the club is considering loads of options.

spillo1:
A key player for a treble winning side with the most chances created in their ucl run is a flop. Not even average or just ok but a failure lol.

He wasn’t key.

Starting games for your club doesn’t make you a key player. Sometimes it just means there’s no better option.

Key players are those who massively influenced a game through goals, assists, and big chances created.

Grealish never topped any of those charts at City.

The only reason people don’t pay attention to his flop is because City won the treble. Also, City’s players don’t get as much criticism as other top teams.

His G/A returns is similar with Antony even though the later costs 20m less, and he gets much more criticism.

Illimitable:
Yeah, like when United got Donny Van De Beek when Partey or Declan Rice was required. What eventually happened to Van De Beek? Sold at a loss.

Elite players win you elite trophies. It’s the reason City have been top for so long. If United want to compete for the PL next season while playing in Europe, they need quality players.

While I agree that we should be buying elite players even if they’re expensive, I don’t think now is the time for that.

We’re in a phase of squad building where lavish outlays on a single player can be a costly mistake that will take years to correct. The only scenario where those kinds of expenses make sense is when they’re the last piece that completes the puzzle.

ChristineC:
Man United will not drop any fee even on par with the Harry Maguire cash on a single player für the foreseeable future. I'll project as much as the next decade.
the Ederson deal, amongst other merit, serve as an intangible guard when the club sits at negotiations for midfielders this summer.
it is clear the club already has its targets, and names will be thrown around by insiders as a negotiating gimmick so it appears the club is considering loads of options.

They kind of did this that winter they brought in only Dorgu even though we’d lost about 3 senior players, the squad was thin, and we were still in Europe.

I think it’s the right way to deal with these greedy clubs fleecing us.

Illimitable:
Joezinho, my G. 😎

How is it going?

Baba we bam oo. Where you dey since na. Hope you are back for good 😃

Illimitable:
Yeah, like when United got Donny Van De Beek when Partey or Declan Rice was required. What eventually happened to Van De Beek? Sold at a loss.

Elite players win you elite trophies. It’s the reason City have been top for so long. If United want to compete for the PL next season while playing in Europe, they need quality players.

The thing is most players you think are elites are just above average at best. The difference is a good manager, system, and motivation (if the players are ready to give their all to the club).


Some players you think are elite under pep might flop and become mid under Amorim. We have seen examples here at united where players we thought were finished suddenly became better because Carricks system suits them and they were more motivated.


A squad that is made of above average players, with two or three elite players like bruno are capable of winning anything as long as the system suits them, and they are motivated.

South Africa shud v allowed us go to this world cup.What type of disgraceful display was that yesterday?

dreamxhaser:
The thing is most players you think are elites are just above average at best. The difference is a good manager, system, and motivation (if the players are ready to give their all to the club).


Some players you think are elite under pep might flop and become mid under Amorim. We have seen examples here at united where players we thought were finished suddenly became better because Carricks system suits them and they were more motivated.


A squad that is made of above average players, with two or three elite players like bruno are capable of winning anything as long as the system suits them, and they are motivated.

From experience I don't really believe in big names anymore especially English players.

dreamxhaser:
The thing is most players you think are elites are just above average at best. The difference is a good manager, system, and motivation (if the players are ready to give their all to the club).


Some players you think are elite under pep might flop and become mid under Amorim. We have seen examples here at united where players we thought were finished suddenly became better because Carricks system suits them and they were more motivated.


A squad that is made of above average players, with two or three elite players like bruno are capable of winning anything as long as the system suits them, and they are motivated.

Well said, Anderson might even struggle at a big club. He is no doubt a good Midfielder, but no where near that valuation. English clubs are just excessively greedy.

Here we go Matheus fernades 50m
. Sweet deal

Fernades to man u

How come we aren't looking at defensive minded midfielders hmmmm

But hear me out

It is true.

After getting Ederson I don’t think we should get both Fernandes and Scott.

Fernandes and a more defensive midfielder would make more sense.

afrodoc:
It is true.

After getting Ederson I don’t think we should get both Fernandes and Scott.

Fernandes and a more defensive midfielder would make more sense.

I guess this also put Tonali out of the picture, unless we will ditch Fernandes for Tonali and get a proper DM..