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A viral video has sparked debate after a man refused to pay for a date when he discovered the woman had no intention of going home with him afterwards.

But the real issue isn’t who should pay.

The real issue is that too many men go on dates without being clear about their intentions from the start. Whether you’re looking for a relationship, something casual, or simply getting to know someone, clarity saves time, money, and unnecessary drama.

Watch the video as I break down why men need to stop guessing, stop assuming, and start being upfront before the date even happens.

Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM6mv5LP8GY?si=4AYWlQav49XzDQ2n

Why would a guy wants a girl to follow him to his house after their first date in the first place?

Samantha125:
Why would a guy wants a girl to follow him to his house after their first date in the first place?

Why would a lady forget her purse at home and still expect the stranger to pay for everything (even transport back home) in the first place.

How is he a stranger when they'd have already been familiar with each other?

And you're not obliged to pay for anything if you don't feel like it.

marlow1962:
Why would a lady forget her purse at home and still expect the stranger to pay for everything (even transport back home) in the first place.

That's why I like broke girls. Immediately they enter your car AC thigh with many lies of what you will do for there family oga believe me they're already wet to follow home on that first date. Some go give knack for that your car that day. Just guide as a man you will understand that words that say(money over bitches)

I've broken a lot of women's hearts who genuinely loved me but I only wanted things casual. Nowadays I let them know upfront what I'm about, it's easy and fun

Like why must we be eating when we are discussing about whether or not we should mate?

And then that responsibility falls on one person only to pay for the meals.

If hunger dey do you, beg for food. No dey use style go chop free food.

We can discuss about relationship while sitting in a park or walking or working or sitting in my room.

Some of una no get sense. This kain setting you no fit find me at all.

Going on a date with a banny who doesn't even know what she wants . Some will even be busy with their phones all through the date, date that's supposed to be a time for both of use to get to know each other . Why can't we just go to a cool environment,and talk things out, instead of going out on a date that'll still lead to nothing las las

Samantha125:
How is he a stranger when they'd have already been familiar with each other?

And you're not obliged to pay for anything if you don't feel like it.

Yes, as a man i support you. The girl did not even force him to pay for things on the date.
He could have spent within his means.
Must every girl you take on a date have sex with you.
We guys are funny. First it was every girl that visits us must give us sex.
Now it has graduated to every girl we take on a date must give us sex.
Its funny.
I think maybe a lot of guys have to learn how to relate with ladies.
Know when a lady is really interested in them, how to make ladies like them etc.
instead of seeing any acquaintance with a lady as an opportunity for sex.
It sounds seriously desperate

I agree that clarity is important, but I think this conversation is missing an equally important point: a date is not a contract.

By all means, men should be honest about their intentions. If you're looking for something casual, say so. If you're looking for a serious relationship, say so. Clear communication prevents misunderstandings.

However, being upfront about your intentions does not mean the other person owes you a particular outcome.

A man paying for dinner does not automatically entitle him to sex. Likewise, a woman accepting a date does not automatically mean she is interested in a relationship.

Sometimes two people meet and realize there is no chemistry. Sometimes attraction changes. Sometimes one person is interested and the other is not. That's part of dating.

The bigger problem today is that many people approach dating as a transaction rather than a process of mutual discovery. One side feels cheated because money was spent. The other side feels pressured because expectations were attached to that spending.

A healthier mindset is this: go on a date because you want to get to know someone, not because you are purchasing a guaranteed outcome.

If your intention is casual, be honest. If your intention is serious, be honest. But also understand that the other person has the right to say yes, no, or change their mind.

The real issue isn't that men need to stop dating without clear intentions. The real issue is that both men and women need to stop treating dates as transactions and start treating them as conversations between two adults trying to determine whether they are compatible.

Clarity is important. Respect is equally important.

Samantha125:
Why would a guy wants a girl to follow him to his house after their first date in the first place?

And whats the big deal in first date if you will still remove your pant several times

Sonnobax15:

Going on a date with a banny who doesn't even know what she wants . Some will even be busy with their phones all through the date, date that's supposed to be a time for both of use to get to know each other . Why can't we just go to a cool environment,and talk things out, instead of going out on a date that'll still lead to nothing las las

The whole purpose of a date is to find out whether two people are compatible. Sometimes you discover that you're a good match. Sometimes you discover that you're not. Both outcomes are useful.

The truth is that many people don't fully know what they want until they meet different people and have different experiences. That's not necessarily dishonesty; it's part of self-discovery.

As for people being glued to their phones during a date, I completely agree that it's disrespectful. If someone can't put their phone away long enough to have a meaningful conversation, it sends a message that they're not fully present or interested.

However, replacing dates with a simple conversation in a cool environment doesn't solve the bigger issue. Whether you're at a restaurant, a park, a café, or sitting on a bench, two people still need time and interaction to figure out if there's genuine chemistry.

Not every date will lead to a relationship, marriage, or even a second meeting. That's normal.

The real problem isn't that some dates lead nowhere. The real problem is when people stop seeing dates as opportunities to learn about someone and start seeing them as investments that must generate a return.

Sometimes a date's only purpose is to help two people realize they aren't right for each other. That may feel disappointing, but it's still a successful outcome because it saves both people from wasting months or years pursuing the wrong relationship.

Philosopher1979:
Yes, as a man i support you. The girl did not even force him to pay for things on the date.
He could have spent within his means.
Must every girl you take on a date have sex with you.
We guys are funny. First it was every girl that visits us must give us sex.
Now it has graduated to every girl we take on a date must give us sex.
Its funny.
I think maybe a lot of guys have to learn how to relate with ladies.
Know when a lady is really interested in them, how to make ladies like them etc.
instead of seeing any acquaintance with a lady as an opportunity for sex.
It sounds seriously desperate

I think you've touched on something important that often gets lost in these conversations.

A date should not be viewed as a financial transaction where one person pays and the other is expected to provide sex as compensation. Human relationships simply do not work that way.

One of the challenges many people face in modern dating is confusing access with entitlement. Spending money on someone may demonstrate interest, generosity, or effort, but it does not create an obligation. Attraction cannot be purchased, and genuine desire cannot be negotiated through receipts.

I also agree that many men would benefit from learning to recognize genuine interest rather than assuming that every interaction with a woman is automatically progressing toward intimacy. A woman can enjoy your company, appreciate a meal, and still decide you're not the right person for her. That's not necessarily exploitation; sometimes it's simply incompatibility.

At the same time, women should also be mindful of giving mixed signals or accepting repeated invitations from people they know they have absolutely no interest in. Respect and consideration should go both ways.

The healthiest approach is for both parties to enter a date with realistic expectations. You're there to see if there's a connection, not to guarantee an outcome.

Ironically, people often become more attractive when they stop approaching every interaction with the pressure of "Where will this lead?" and instead focus on getting to know the person in front of them.

Dating works best when it's driven by curiosity, honesty, and mutual interest—not by a sense of entitlement from either side.

A good date should leave both people with more clarity, not with the feeling that someone owes the other something.

Always referring to girls as banny?

Sonnobax15:

Going on a date with a banny who doesn't even know what she wants . Some will even be busy with their phones all through the date, date that's supposed to be a time for both of use to get to know each other . Why can't we just go to a cool environment,and talk things out, instead of going out on a date that'll still lead to nothing las las

Cum4me:
That's why I like broke girls. Immediately they enter your car AC thigh with many lies of what you will do for there family oga believe me they're already wet to follow home on that first date. Some go give knack for that your car that day. Just guide as a man you will understand that words that say(money over bitches)

I think this kind of thinking is exactly why many people are becoming cynical about modern dating.

First, being financially challenged does not make a woman morally loose, just as being wealthy does not make a woman virtuous. Human beings are far more complex than their bank balances.

Second, if a woman shows interest in a man because he has money, that doesn't automatically mean she's interested in him as a person. The same way a man who is only interested in a woman's appearance may not be interested in her character.

The danger of viewing women through this lens is that it encourages men to mistake financial dependence for genuine attraction. Someone agreeing to spend time with you because they need help is not the same thing as someone choosing you because they genuinely like, respect, and admire you.

In fact, relationships built primarily on financial leverage often become the most fragile. The moment the money disappears, the foundation is tested.

A healthy relationship should be based on more than what either party can extract from the other. Men need more than admiration for their wallets, and women need more than admiration for their looks.

The real win is not finding someone who is willing to follow you home because of what you can provide. The real win is finding someone who would still value your presence, character, and companionship even when life becomes difficult.

Money is important, but it is a poor substitute for genuine connection. Many people discover that lesson only after they've spent years chasing validation instead of compatibility.

Some men na cho cho dem dey do.
Every hole must be sample

I think you're looking at dating purely from a cost-benefit perspective, and that's where the disagreement comes from.

A date is not necessarily about food. The food is often just an activity that creates a relaxed environment for conversation. People eat together because it's a social experience, not because they're negotiating a contract.

That said, I actually agree that not every first meeting needs to be at an expensive restaurant. A walk in a park, a coffee shop, a museum, or even a simple conversation in a public place can be just as effective for getting to know someone.

Where I disagree is the assumption that a woman who accepts a meal is automatically looking for "free food." Most adults can afford to feed themselves. The value of a date is usually the company, not the plate of rice or pasta.

The bigger issue is compatibility. If you're someone who prefers low-cost, simple first meetings, there's nothing wrong with that. Be upfront about it. The right person won't have a problem with it.

Likewise, if someone prefers dinner dates, that's their preference too.

The mistake is assuming that everyone who enjoys a traditional date is trying to exploit someone. Sometimes two people are simply meeting to see if there's a connection. If there isn't, both parties move on.

Not every unsuccessful date is a scam. Sometimes it's just two people discovering they're not a match—and that's exactly what dating is supposed to help you figure out.

Host78:
Like why must we be eating when we are discussing about whether or not we should mate?

And then that responsibility falls on one person only to pay for the meals.

If hunger dey do you, beg for food. No dey use style go chop free food.

We can discuss about relationship while sitting in a park or walking or working or sitting in my room.

Some of una no get sense. This kain setting you no fit find me at all.

In reality, it is actually not sane for a lady to go home with her acquaintance, just after a first date/hangout.

Samantha125:
Why would a guy wants a girl to follow him to his house after their first date in the first place?

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In other words, if it's a prostitute you want to take out on a date, do your due diligence and go for quality. There are many available in Allen.

Stop the idea of taking someone's daughter on a date with intention of converting her into a prostitute for goodness sake.

Not every flexing must end up in bed.

Samantha125:
Why would a guy wants a girl to follow him to his house after their first date in the first place?

To change her oil, service is important in maintenance

Looking for the importance of this thread to my life. No. Nothing? Exactly.

This is one of the reasons I always picked my bills whenever I went out with my then boyfriend, now husband.

When I wasn't buoyant enough for such outings,I declined and stayed away...and he never pushed because intention was clear from the start.

Imagine being insulted and embarrassed over food and entertainment that I could afford or avoid simply because a man paid.

Women are really going through a lot.

How would you know that she needs oil change when you wouldn't even know her that well?

Gotocourt:
To change her oil, service is important in maintenance

deebrain:
In other words, if it's a prostitute you want to take out on a date, do your due diligence and go for quality. There are many available in Allen.

Stop the idea of taking someone's daughter on a date with intention of converting her into a prostitute for goodness sake.

Not every flexing must end up in bed.

Then start shaming women with their body counts.
Imagine a woman has to sleep with every man she had a date with.. Damn!

Okay. This is very true. It is important that both parties are on the same page

Cum4me:
That's why I like broke girls. Immediately they enter your car AC thigh with many lies of what you will do for there family oga believe me they're already wet to follow home on that first date. Some go give knack for that your car that day. Just guide as a man you will understand that words that say(money over bitches)

....and what is the benefit of this information you are sharing publicly? To mock girls from poor home or to what end Mr car owner?


Some of you lack decorum, you will just open mouth waaah, tomorrow you will still be the same guy opening your mouth to say Nigerian girls are now proven stubborn for you, make una try de get sense, everything is not cruise and u mustn't say everything you know in life in open forums just for shalaye

spiceadole:
This is one of the reasons I always picked my bills whenever I went out with my then boyfriend, now husband.

When I wasn't buoyant enough for such outings,I declined and stayed away...and he never pushed because intention was clear from the start.

Imagine being insulted and embarrassed over food and entertainment that I could afford or avoid simply because a man paid.

Women are really going through a lot.

Things have changed completely in the dating environment of today and don't blame one gender for it, blame both genders, I said this because some cunning ladies did took advantage of innocent unsuspecting young men without much dating experience and when they become more exposed they try to take out their past negative experiences with some cunning ladies they met in the past on their new female dates and the cycle continues like that, so blame both genders cos many ladies took advantage of many good guys that made some good guys to turn bad guys

The guy dey try him luck na. No offence! Before the lady go call ham mumu

ReluctantAdult:
I've broken a lot of women's hearts who genuinely loved me but I only wanted things casual. Nowadays I let them know upfront what I'm about, it's easy and fun

Baba you played a smart game and you feel guilty?
Making the first break move is smartness.. they would have eventually shown you pepper. Ladies barely love. If you see a guy who says his girl loves him, its just that he has submitted himself to ger template and he has bn programmed by her to be her toy. The moment a typical African man says no to their template, she will move against you. So you playing the first move was smartness... Again, she would have eventually done same. Gen z girls know not love sir.

All these ones na grammar.

Tell any babe you want to take her on a date and then ask her what she expects in a date, if it's not free food

Oyindamolah:
I think you're looking at dating purely from a cost-benefit perspective, and that's where the disagreement comes from.

A date is not necessarily about food. The food is often just an activity that creates a relaxed environment for conversation. People eat together because it's a social experience, not because they're negotiating a contract.

That said, I actually agree that not every first meeting needs to be at an expensive restaurant. A walk in a park, a coffee shop, a museum, or even a simple conversation in a public place can be just as effective for getting to know someone.

Where I disagree is the assumption that a woman who accepts a meal is automatically looking for "free food." Most adults can afford to feed themselves. The value of a date is usually the company, not the plate of rice or pasta.

The bigger issue is compatibility. If you're someone who prefers low-cost, simple first meetings, there's nothing wrong with that. Be upfront about it. The right person won't have a problem with it.

Likewise, if someone prefers dinner dates, that's their preference too.

The mistake is assuming that everyone who enjoys a traditional date is trying to exploit someone. Sometimes two people are simply meeting to see if there's a connection. If there isn't, both parties move on.

Not every unsuccessful date is a scam. Sometimes it's just two people discovering they're not a match—and that's exactly what dating is supposed to help you figure out.

Samantha125:
Why would a guy wants a girl to follow him to his house after their first date in the first place?

Why won't follow him when you are hungry and he fed you free of charge?

Guys of nowadays be like roaring lions looking for who to devour...