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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 11:15pm On Jun 09
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 6:24am On Jun 10
justwise:
I preordered a fraction already just to see how the market reacts when it goes public…. I will sell before November midterm election
That's a good way to go, I'd say.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 6:28am On Jun 10
Cyberknight:
That's a good way to go, I'd say.
Are you sure a non sale clause disclosure might not be in the agreement...... 😁😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 6:29am On Jun 10
Lexusgs430:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/two-charged-with-murder-of-devoted-father-outside-lewisham-nightclub/ar-AA25ch6M?ocid=sapphireappshare

Very sad on all fronts......
It is indeed. Poor little children left fatherless.
I gather that the Tories are loudly calling for the return of stop and search targeted at "people most likely to offend", so apparently black men and boys who walk the streets of London will have to get ready.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 6:30am On Jun 10
Lexusgs430:
Are you sure a non sale clause disclosure might not be in the agreement...... 😁😂
We'll find out. But you're right - lockup clauses are not uncommon.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Mcleo007(m): 10:14am On Jun 10
Fred2020:
Ironically, many of the most extreme crimes and security-related offences are often committed by individuals who entered through immigration routes other than skilled work or student visas. Yet public and political attention frequently focuses on the latter groups.

Most people are unlikely to spend £25,000 or more on visa fees, relocation costs, and education only to jeopardise their future through criminal or extremist behaviour. Likewise, those working long hours, paying taxes, supporting themselves without recourse to public funds, and managing everyday financial responsibilities generally have little time or incentive to engage in radical or unlawful activities.

When the british public understands this, they can better tackle the issue from its root cause
Its all politics and like you rightly pointed, 9 out 10 chances of such crimes are likely to come from immigration routes not visa holders. The politicians know this!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Mcleo007(m): 10:16am On Jun 10
Cyberknight:
It is indeed. Poor little children left fatherless.
I gather that the Tories are loudly calling for the return of stop and search targeted at "people most likely to offend", so apparently black men and boys who walk the streets of London will have to get ready.
Thats the way they would go. Kemi already called for it. Goes to show how the acts by a few can affect the whole.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 10:52am On Jun 10
Lexusgs430:
Are you sure a non sale clause disclosure might not be in the agreement...... 😁😂
I doubt, even if that is in place it will not hold longer than 6months then I will get rid of it. Elon is a liability, I regretted holding my Tesla position for 5yrs.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by HollyMadison(f): 11:10am On Jun 10
Hello all, please I need a letter from the Nigerian High Commission in London. Please who knows how I can go about it, Can I just go there and ask for the letter?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 11:27am On Jun 10
Cyberknight:
It is indeed. Poor little children left fatherless.
I gather that the Tories are loudly calling for the return of stop and search targeted at "people most likely to offend", so apparently black men and boys who walk the streets of London will have to get ready.
Such an unfortunate circumstance..... Now the family have to rely on Go Fund me, to organise his funeral + possibly small change for the family.........

Let's assume he was also from the school of thought, of awaiting his Investments to mature...... Let's hope his Investments have prematurely matured......
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 11:29am On Jun 10
justwise:
I doubt, even if that is in place it will not hold longer than 6months then I will get rid of it. Elon is a liability, I regretted holding my Tesla position for 5yrs.
I kept dipping in and out of Tesla..... So no regrets here.... 😁
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by labiola: 8:10pm On Jun 10
Good evening brothers and sisters.

This is an SOS message to everyone who can be of help. I applied for Morocco evisa with my wife as we planned holiday in August. The mistake we made was to book for Hotel and flight without applying for visa. It was after then we applied and denied. I was so surprised because I didn’t envisage anything like this could happen.

I am at the verge of losing about almost £800 because of this mistake. Our current visa will expire in November before applying for ILR. I have written to Morocco embassy to request for reason for denial but no response. It appears that we are suppose to have 180days minimum before our current visa expires.

Please is there anyone who has experienced this before ? How did you resolve it? What are the options that are available for us to get refund from Airline and hotel as we didn’t have insurance.

Please help your brother .
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Santa2: 6:06am On Jun 12
justwise:
Again in some ways its an investment , if i burn my house down i will be getting some money from the insurance company either for the content or for the actual house.
I have family in the US where I I saw firsthand how insurance changed the trajectory of the lives. They were comfortably middle class , uncle died in 2006, 3 kids were in uni then, the insurance payout (about $1M) was invested wisely by my aunt and they still continuously reaping from the proceed investment from that payout. My cousins now have their own kids and that insurance payout from 20yrs ago ensured they didn't down grade their lives but upgrade it after the breadwinners death. For me the approach is insurance and investment. Diversify the portfolio grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 4:17pm On Jun 12
labiola:
Good evening brothers and sisters.

This is an SOS message to everyone who can be of help. I applied for Morocco evisa with my wife as we planned holiday in August. The mistake we made was to book for Hotel and flight without applying for visa. It was after then we applied and denied. I was so surprised because I didn’t envisage anything like this could happen.

I am at the verge of losing about almost £800 because of this mistake. Our current visa will expire in November before applying for ILR. I have written to Morocco embassy to request for reason for denial but no response. It appears that we are suppose to have 180days minimum before our current visa expires.

Please is there anyone who has experienced this before ? How did you resolve it? What are the options that are available for us to get refund from Airline and hotel as we didn’t have insurance.

Please help your brother .
Sorry to hear this.... Unfortunately, if you bought non refundable tickets + hotel bookings...... That's it.... £800 gone....

You can plead with them, both don't hold any hopes..... Did you pay with your credit card... If you did, you might have a very slim chance at refunds......
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 12:11am On Jun 13
Santa2:
I have family in the US where I I saw firsthand how insurance changed the trajectory of the lives. They were comfortably middle class , uncle died in 2006, 3 kids were in uni then, the insurance payout (about $1M) was invested wisely by my aunt and they still continuously reaping from the proceed investment from that payout. My cousins now have their own kids and that insurance payout from 20yrs ago ensured they didn't down grade their lives but upgrade it after the breadwinners death. For me the approach is insurance and investment. Diversify the portfolio grin
This is the point we are trying to make...... But people are free to have their own approach towards life insurance & investment...... 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:47am On Jun 14
Fred2020:
personally think SpaceX is overvalued. Much of its valuation appears to be based on the assumption that it will become a global juggernaut and maintain a dominant position across multiple space-related industries globally.

While it undoubtedly has a significant technological lead today, many countries are becoming increasingly cautious about relying on U.S. companies for critical infrastructure. As a result, I doubt SpaceX will be able to capture as large a share of international markets as some investors expect. This is very different from the dot-com era, when U.S. technology and software were adopted globally with far fewer concerns around sovereignty, resilience, and strategic dependence.

I also think geopolitical fragmentation is likely to persist long after Trump leaves office.
Lots of talk abt SpaceX. The valuation itself is brutal and with Elons political shenanigans together with him being the face of the company, many nations would put some barriers to their spread.

Still indexed but it's not nice index fvnds are now being targetted to fuel this frenzy.
Eitherway, market keeps putting in all time highs like it doesn't care. The day this market would crash, e go bad.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:51am On Jun 14
Santa2:
I have family in the US where I I saw firsthand how insurance changed the trajectory of the lives. They were comfortably middle class , uncle died in 2006, 3 kids were in uni then, the insurance payout (about $1M) was invested wisely by my aunt and they still continuously reaping from the proceed investment from that payout. My cousins now have their own kids and that insurance payout from 20yrs ago ensured they didn't down grade their lives but upgrade it after the breadwinners death. For me the approach is insurance and investment. Diversify the portfolio grin
Interesting...its usually a nice bedrock when it works. It doesn't bring back the dead but gives their offspring a good headstart
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:54am On Jun 14
Lexusgs430:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/two-charged-with-murder-of-devoted-father-outside-lewisham-nightclub/ar-AA25ch6M?ocid=sapphireappshare

Very sad on all fronts......
Bad news is rampant these days. When I read some of these violent crimes, I keep asking.. what were they even thinking
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 1:23am On Jun 14
Zahra29:
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My advice would be to ask this on one of the numerous Reddit housing /property investing sub pages - you'll definitely get broad perspectives and solid insights to help you. All the best.
grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 4:50pm On Jun 14
Cyberknight:
There's nothing wrong with opting out from your NHS pension scheme if you need the extra money in the here and now as opposed to when you've retired. As long as you understand what you're doing. Some people opt out because they're trying to save for an expense they need to meet, others because the extra money is needed to make ends meet.

Basically, the UK has a 3 pillar pension regime, as opposed to Nigeria where we had just the one. The 1st type of pension is the state pension, which everyone who has worked for up to 10 years in the UK will receive from the government at retirement age. This is the one which in theory your payment of taxes (NI is just another tax) entitles you to. That amount is set at a level to cover recipients' basic living costs and assumes that recipients are no longer paying rent or a mortgage at pension age. It's currently about £12,500 for those who have worked and paid tax in the UK for 35 years. The amount people will receive varies by how long their working life in the UK will be, and if you can get state pension "forecasts" letting you know how much you can expect as the state pension when you retire based on your current age. You can't "opt out" of the state pension by deciding not to pay NI.

The second type is the workplace (employer-run) pension scheme in which your employer deducts from your pay a fixed amount and adds its own fixed percentage and puts that in a retirement scheme in your name. This is the one we've got in Nigeria, and that's what your NHS pension scheme is. You can opt out of that one and save the monthly contribution you make every month, as long as you understand that this means that you will also lose the employer contribution and the tax relief as well and will only be building up an entitlement to the state pension.

And as you will be aware, the public sector pensions schemes (NHS, civil service, council, police, forces, etc) are known as gold plated pensions schemes, because they are final salary pensions and are backed by the government, which has a great deal of credibility.

The 3rd type is a private pension. Self -employed people who work for themselves and as such only have entitlement to the state pension and some employed high earners who want to reduce their tax bills can set up private pensions and pay money into them. Private pensions also have tax relief on contributions, but of course do not have employer contributions.

The important thing to understand, as per the chain of discussions in this thread is:

1. You can opt out of a workplace pension, but it doesn't make sense from a financial perspective to do so in order to set up a private pension because you lose the employer contributions (and if you are working for the NHS those are very good).

2. If you desperately need the money you are paying as contributions from your salary now and have no other way to raise it, then of course it also makes financial sense to opt out and use that money now. However, before you decide, it is advisable you consult with someone to understand what the exact pros and cons are, how long you will retain your benefits (if at all) when you're not contributing, etc. Benefits include the death in service provision, which is effectively life insurance, whereby if you die the pension scheme pays a lump sum of a multiple of your salary to your beneficiaries, for example.

Given the quasi-guaranteed nature of these schemes for public sector employees and the high (notional) employer contributions you get from the government, in most cases you'll be ultimately financially better off picking up extra shifts or getting an additional part-time job if you can than opting out of the NHS pension scheme.
Thank you very much sir. This is a concise summary. Regards. The future is long time away though, and I've been reading that one can access the funds even if not living in the UK anymore at that time. But there's a lot of uncertainty!!! Another angle is that the age might be increased from 67 in the near future... For us under 40, it looks like opting out is a sensible option too. It's a really difficult decision right now...
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 4:58pm On Jun 14
justwise:
Rather than stopping it ...maximise it so that NHS will match it, it's pretty much free money.
Thank you. While I agree uncertainty and risk is an integral part of investing (pension) in this case it seems very very significant. Out of a group of Nigerian friends in the NHS trust, I'm the only one still left on it.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Mcleo007(m): 5:52pm On Jun 14
ehizario2012:
Thank you very much sir. This is a concise summary. Regards. The future is long time away though, and I've been reading that one can access the funds even if not living in the UK anymore at that time. But there's a lot of uncertainty!!! Another angle is that the age might be increased from 67 in the near future... For us under 40, it looks like opting out is a sensible option too. It's a really difficult decision right now...
This is one of many reasons I opted out. With how these people are so quick to shift the goal post, there is no telling they can't push the age to even above 70. I mean, once upon a time, the age of retirement was 60-63.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 5:55pm On Jun 14
jedisco:
Interesting...its usually a nice bedrock when it works. It doesn't bring back the dead but gives their offspring a good headstart


Yup...the living gets richer the moment you are 6fit down under...basically you dying is someone's prayer point ....
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Mcleo007(m): 5:57pm On Jun 14
justwise:
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Yup...the living gets richer the moment you are 6fit down under...basically you dying is someone's prayer point ....
Does that still apply, even if it involves family? grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 6:00pm On Jun 14
ehizario2012:
Thank you. While I agree uncertainty and risk is an integral part of investing (pension) in this case it seems very very significant. Out of a group of Nigerian friends in the NHS trust, I'm the only one still left on it.


You may have the last laugh at the end..if you can afford not to opted out i suggest to carry on..carrying on
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 6:06pm On Jun 14
Mcleo007:
Does that still apply, even if it involves family? grin
Trust only yourself...money changes people , there are so many ways to look after family without life insurance.. and to answer your question..Yes
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 6:46pm On Jun 14
ehizario2012:
Thank you very much sir. This is a concise summary. Regards. The future is long time away though, and I've been reading that one can access the funds even if not living in the UK anymore at that time. But there's a lot of uncertainty!!! Another angle is that the age might be increased from 67 in the near future... For us under 40, it looks like opting out is a sensible option too. It's a really difficult decision right now...
I think you can access from age 55 if you retire voluntarily
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by bigtt76(f): 10:55pm On Jun 14
What type of letter?



HollyMadison:
Hello all, please I need a letter from the Nigerian High Commission in London. Please who knows how I can go about it, Can I just go there and ask for the letter?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 6:13am On Jun 15
ehizario2012:
Thank you very much sir. This is a concise summary. Regards. The future is long time away though, and I've been reading that one can access the funds even if not living in the UK anymore at that time. But there's a lot of uncertainty!!! Another angle is that the age might be increased from 67 in the near future... For us under 40, it looks like opting out is a sensible option too. It's a really difficult decision right now...
Lets see it this way.
Before you exit, try and do it from a position of knowledge i.e, try and appreciate the full advantages and why it's called a 'gold plated' pension. If after that, you still want to leave, then no ish.

Try not to look at it from the Nigerian lens. The life expectancy in Nigeria is still in the mid-50's and retirement planning is far from robust. It's something we hardly did. Govt workers back home strike so that their retirement age can be increased. Some even go underhanded to achieve it. That's the opposite of what you have in the west where riots happen when a year or two is added to the retirement age.

It'd likely get to 70 by the time you retire. The retirement age rises as people live longer so it's not bad in itself. It seems far in the future but you'd most likely get there. Question is what are your plans when you do? If you want to retire early, there's the option of a SIPP which can kick in 10 yrs before state pension i.e 57yrs today. Before then, you can use an ISA if say 50 is your target. But I'd flip it and say that if looking to retire early, the NHS pension is not one to miss. It's practically what keeps many working in the NHS.

ehizario2012:
Thank you. While I agree uncertainty and risk is an integral part of investing (pension) in this case it seems very very significant. Out of a group of Nigerian friends in the NHS trust, I'm the only one still left on it.
Oh dear! The effect of recent events as regards visa rules are far-reaching.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 6:14am On Jun 15
Mcleo007:
This is one of many reasons I opted out. With how these people are so quick to shift the goal post, there is no telling they can't push the age to even above 70. I mean, once upon a time, the age of retirement was 60-63.
Was it on this basis you opted out?
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