₦airaland Forum

T9ksy:
Change wetin? How I wish that tinubu can just dismember this unworkable union. Its the onenigetia ruse that you guys used to interfer in another region's politics
Interestingly enough, it's only in lagos that you want to practise one nigeria. There's no other region in the country that you can exercise your fake unity

Until you change it then you can talk
For now how much is your family compound?

mrvitalis:
That’s not the topic but a simple google sex would tell you Tinubu have been spending millions on lawyers to prevent the release

In his words it would caused damage to him

Do the google search and post it.

Who even takes people that claim to have evidenve that buhari was a clone of jubril of sudan serious

9japride:
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It seems you didn't understand the topic being discussed? Most Yoruba people have all abandoned their various states to Lagos. As for Abuja, Gbagyi tribe which are found in majority of the middle belt states of the country don't claim owner to Abuja.
The true owners are only the Gbagyi people located in Abuja.
As I said the hatred towards Igbos is mainly from Lagos politics and it's just a means used to win elections.
As for representation at the centre, I don't know about that.
Normally, the Eastern states are rich in agriculture, solid mineral and oil/gas. They aren't poor.
There is a systematic scheme that is being done to limit the progress of the eastern region.
Lagos is a Yoruba zone but due to the cosmopolitan nature and it's status as former capital, it's open for all to reside.
Politics is a dicey matter.
It will be nice if you can throw more light on the main question being asked on this thread?.

The Yoruba were all in the western state before state creation. It is their land. People of the old East have more clout in Anambra or Enugu than other people and as a matter of fact it is mostly Lagos people that rule Lagos. I can't just go to Lagos from Osun to be governor but it can be easier for me than for someone from Enugu or Kano simply because the Yoruba were one people even before Nigeria. Meanwhile there is no law stopping anyone from contesting anywhere and an issue should not be made out of it. Should the Yoruba leave Lagos when other people are migrating there? There is no reason for a non Yoruba to be complaining that the Yoruba are migrating to Lagos. Who else would if not people from neighbouring states? If Oyo state government increases IGR by 500 billion naira a year, they can employ 50k people immediately who will bring five more people each. That is a small city and that was how Lagos grew to become what it is today. Not because of anything Nigeria did for them. Nigeria rather is owing them derivation from Port revenue as they could have been Benin republic

How do you mean I don't understand the question? I responded to you and not the question which I had already responded to earlier on the thread. Nobody hates Igbos but if any Igbo abuses or attacks any people, then the people attacked will respond which is normal. People are protecting their interests and you say they hate Igbos? Igbos have 15 senators for 19 million people and the Yoruba have 18 senators for 55 million people. Assuming Igbos even have the numbers to win in Lagos which they don't, will it be fair for them to take anything in Lagos? The only way it can be fair is to give the SW 45 senators against the SE's 15 and do the same for reps, local governments, states and etc. That is why I said you should join that campaign. Join the right thing to do

No matter the kind of Gbayi, Gbagyinis Gbagyi and I doubt the Gbagyi and other natives in Abuja are up to 20 percent of the city's population or of the city's voter population and etc. They don't have the hold on Abuja that the Yoruba have on Lagos. Yet it is still their land and they are the Frontline beneficiaries of it's development

You see if you die for Igbos, they will still call you a foolish man. Igbos gain from Nigeria more than any group yet they still complain the most. Explain the systematic marginalization of the SE you talk of. They have a very low population and are taking up to three to five times of what they put in. They have been sworn in to lead the country three times too and they controlled totally Jonathan's Presidency. They have at least five federal universities while the SW with three times their population have at least six. All funded etc etc

You don't know about representation at the center? You won't know about it because it exposes the reality that the group being trampled upon in Nigeria are the Yoruba and the people chopping the country are Igbos. It is the Yoruba who should be complaining of marginalization and not Igbos

Yes the Eastern states are rich. The land is fertile and well watered and the people have no need at all to be dragging any other land with any people. Not to talk of tiny Lagos. Nigeria was never one country at any time. It is a federation that allows anybody from anywhere in the world to contest elections so far they have a Nigerian citizenship

Airlord2030:
same way Ethiopia is jealous of them that make them to dominate to their prison..

Yes oh! Did you ever read the documentary how some of them got there? Much better than the SOCIO-ECONOMIC AND PSYCHOLOGICAL prison APC and Tinubu have built for over 200 million Nigerians right there in Nigeria. A town hall not different from WATERLOO if you ask me.

Your hatred for Igbos will continue to eat away your insides even while you rot in your grave. You will know no peace.🍷

Nword22:
Well we are ngwa people a clan not that Igbo man you think of because here in Ngwaland we don't care for your so called Igbo because we are Ngwas, so does ikwere anioma.

Again port is closer to Ngwas or speaks same dialect than your superior Igbo which is none of our business in Ngwaland.

Kiss the truth son.

Get your head fixed.

See as you allowed that guy whine you. You must still be a teen bcus an adult can't be this emotional over some text

Frankmorgan:
See as you allowed that guy whine you. You must still be a teen bcus an adult can't be this emotional over some text

I am telling you all the fact and you are here talking whine.

mrvitalis:
Ghanaian and South Africans have said it na

We outcompete them we take over their businesses

Is that your issue with igbos ?

Let me give you a clearer analogy. If I come and live in your house as a tenant, and after a few years I start claiming ownership of the house and dragging it with you, would you pat me on the back or chase me out of your compound? That is exactly what is happening in most of the places igbo people go and do business, there is always this wrong illusion in their mind that they're smarter than everyone.i have one as a neighbor here and he is already exhibiting this their greedy mind mentality. Whereas, no stranger dare try such things in igbo land , your people don't even allow non igbo to acquire land in the east.

mrvitalis:
They do 100%
Their are more igbos in kaduna and Kano combined than in Lagos

Hausas don’t complain they compete and and we compete they have the numbers

Non Yoruba in Osun ( not non indigenes) are not up to three percent of the population. They are between two and three percent and Osun is one of the most urbanized if not the most urbanized in the country. If Osun has less than three percent none Yoruba in it then only a few Northern states can have more than three percent southerners living in it. Most will not have more than one percent. A Hausa man here once said the population of Igbos in the North is 500k with 200k in Kano, 50k in Kaduna and the rest scattered among the 19 states. I now believe he is not far off the mark. Southerners in the North are between 1.5 and 3 million individuals given that less than three percent of Osun is non Yoruba and that Northern Nigeria will follow the same pattern. Igbos will be less than one third of the population of southerners in the North. The highest population will go to the Yoruba

Therefore Igbos in Lagos alone should exceed the population of Igbos in the North outside Abuja or it might be a similar number

However Abuja is excluded

If you can bring data showing any school in the North have children from the south up to three percent of the population then I might be wrong

lawani:
The Yoruba were all in the western state before state creation. It is their land. People of the old East have more clout in Anambra or Enugu than other people and as a matter of fact it is mostly Lagos people that rule Lagos. I can't just go to Lagos from Osun to be governor but it can be easier for me than for someone from Enugu or Kano simply because the Yoruba were one people even before Nigeria. Meanwhile there is no law stopping anyone from contesting anywhere and an issue should not be made out of it. Should the Yoruba leave Lagos when other people are migrating there? There is no reason for a non Yoruba to be complaining that the Yoruba are migrating to Lagos. Who else would if not people from neighbouring states? If Oyo state government increases IGR by 500 billion naira a year, they can employ 50k people immediately who will bring five more people each. That is a small city and that was how Lagos grew to become what it is today. Not because of anything Nigeria did for them. Nigeria rather is owing them derivation from Port revenue as they could have been Benin republic

How do you mean I don't understand the question? I responded to you and not the question which I had already responded to earlier on the thread. Nobody hates Igbos but if any Igbo abuses or attacks any people, then the people attacked will respond which is normal. People are protecting their interests and you say they hate Igbos? Igbos have 15 senators for 19 million people and the Yoruba have 18 senators for 55 million people. Assuming Igbos even have the numbers to win in Lagos which they don't, will it be fair for them to take anything in Lagos? The only way it can be fair is to give the SW 45 senators against the SE's 15 and do the same for reps, local governments, states and etc. That is why I said you should join that campaign. Join the right thing to do

No matter the kind of Gbayi, Gbagyinis Gbagyi and I doubt the Gbagyi and other natives in Abuja are up to 20 percent of the city's population or of the city's voter population and etc. They don't have the hold on Abuja that the Yoruba have on Lagos. Yet it is still their land and they are the Frontline beneficiaries of it's development

You see if you die for Igbos, they will still call you a foolish man. Igbos gain from Nigeria more than any group yet they still complain the most. Explain the systematic marginalization of the SE you talk of. They have a very low population and are taking up to three to five times of what they put in. They have been sworn in to lead the country three times too and they controlled totally Jonathan's Presidency. They have at least five federal universities while the SW with three times their population have at least six. All funded etc etc

You don't know about representation at the center? You won't know about it because it exposes the reality that the group being trampled upon in Nigeria are the Yoruba and the people chopping the country are Igbos. It is the Yoruba who should be complaining of marginalization and not Igbos

Yes the Eastern states are rich. The land is fertile and well watered and the people have no need at all to be dragging any other land with any people. Not to talk of tiny Lagos. Nigeria was never one country at any time. It is a federation that allows anybody from anywhere in the world to contest elections so far they have a Nigerian citizenship

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You made some valid points. Though, Igbos are highly marginalized due to the civil war. It's not rocket science.
Anyone in doubt is not being sincere. Same way the whites in most European countries don't believe they are racist towards people of brown colour.
You are just deviating from the main topic. Igbos I believe are the most populous tribe in the country. A deliberate attempt were made to break them into smaller groups.
The west are the ones gaining from the country and they will do anything humanly possible to keep the country as one, so we shouldn't expect any cry of marginalization from them.
The root cause of tension in the country presently is mostly amplified by politics.
Same way European countries use immigration matters to win elections. That's human nature for you.
The main reason Igbos migrate to other regions is that the competition in the east is very high.
For example look at the examination cut off marks for unity colleges in the eastern region, it will give you a perspective of how it is in other areas such as business setup , etc.

manmade:
Let me give you a clearer analogy. If I come and live in your house as a tenant, and after a few years I start claiming ownership of the house and dragging it with you, would you pat me on the back or chase me out of your compound? That is exactly what is happening in most of the places igbo people go and do business, there is always this wrong illusion in their mind that they're smarter than everyone.i have one as a neighbor here and he is already exhibiting this their greedy mind mentality. Whereas, no stranger dare try such things in igbo land , your people don't even allow non igbo to acquire land in the east.

Oga, if you put your house up for sale the Igbo man will buy it, evict everybody and lay claim to his new property

STOP SELLING YOUR FATHER'S LAND TO OUTSIDERS AND LATER TURN AROUND TO CRY

Live within your means and hustle so your grand parents gravesite won't be put on the real estate market for Igbos to buy and develop

Nword22:
Igbos control Abuja besides arewa has no claim over Abuja... Abuja is not core north.

Owning a petty trading shop is now equivalent to control to our brothers. Well done. Gwarinpa, the largest estate in Africa, was developed by a company owned by a Yoruba man, we've not claimed Abuja yet, but it's one Emeka living in Masaka that's claiming ownership of the FCT.
Wotowoto awaits you from the real native of the FCT. I know your carelessness will push you to that extreme. It's a matter of time.

NotOgaSeun:
Ibos are not serious about the independence...
They fought a war.. Their leader run away..
They lost.
Now the new generation want their own country..
But they are scattered all over the country like almajari..
If you want your own country..
Tell all your people to go back home...
Now tell your leaders to push secession bills at the senate...
That's the only solution...
But as long as you are everywhere..
Nobody is going to take you serious...

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That's not how it's done. It's very funny that Igbos don't even cause trouble but they are being hated. The tribe killing people in their farms and taking over various communities are being loved and integrated in the society. No be juju be that? Africans are really weird.

lawani:
Non Yoruba in Osun ( not non indigenes) are not up to three percent of the population. They are between two and three percent and Osun is one of the most urbanized if not the most urbanized in the country. If Osun has less than three percent none Yoruba in it then only a few Northern states can have more than three percent southerners living in it. Most will not have more than one percent. A Hausa man here once said the population of Igbos in the North is 500k with 200k in Kano, 50k in Kaduna and the rest scattered among the 19 states. I now believe he is not far off the mark. Southerners in the North are between 1.5 and 3 million individuals given that less than three percent of Osun is non Yoruba and that Northern Nigeria will follow the same pattern. Igbos will be less than one third of the population of southerners in the North. The highest population will go to the Yoruba

Therefore Igbos in Lagos alone should exceed the population of Igbos in the North outside Abuja or it might be a similar number

However Abuja is excluded

If you can bring data showing any school in the North have children from the south up to three percent of the population then I might be wrong

At the bolded, most private schools in Abuja have Yoruba or the Northerners as the highest population, the Igbo are trailing far behind most neighbouring states that borders Abuja.

For example we have more Edo people in Abuja more than the Igbo combined, just like we have more Benue and Kogi people in Abuja more than the entire pollution of Igbo residing in Abuja.

You can take samples from private schools in Abuja and confirm this.

Ttalk:
At the bolded, most private schools in Abuja have Yoruba or the Northerners as the highest population, the Igbo are trailing far behind most neighbouring states that borders Abuja.

For example we have more Edo people in Abuja more than the Igbo combined, just like we have more Benue and Kogi people in Abuja more than the entire pollution of Igbo residing in Abuja.

You can take samples from private schools in Abuja and confirm this.

Igbos will not agree with you. They will say they have the highest population in Abuja. Kogi and Benue because of proximity might have a high population in Abuja but it is unlikely they will be higher than Igbos. They however might be, solely because of proximity. Edo people in Abuja can not be higher in population than the Igbos there. If they are, it will be a surprise to me and the reason will be worth investigating

9japride:
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You can't do nothing to Igbos, they are like the Israelis.
If you don't like them push for their independence. Due to fear of the unknown you won't.
Igbos will be the happiest people on earth if they are allowed to stay on their own.

you didn't read my comment well.
I said one Nigeria is the reason why we have not gone the south African way on igbos ..
You will understand better when Nigeria divides

lawani:
Igbos will not agree with you. They will say they have the highest population in Abuja. Kogi and Benue because of proximity might have a high population in Abuja but it is unlikely they will be higher than Igbos. They however might be, solely because of proximity. Edo people in Abuja can not be higher in population than the Igbos there. If they are, it will be a surprise to me and the reason will be worth investigating

I've been living in Abuja for more than 15year, am telling you based on what's obtained here.

Let them produce the Senator in Abuja if they have the capacity at least a Yoruba woman have proved it.

9japride:
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You made some valid points. Though, Igbos are highly marginalized due to the civil war. It's not rocket science.
Anyone in doubt is not being sincere. Same way the whites in most European countries don't believe they are racist towards people of brown colour.
You are just deviating from the main topic. Igbos I believe are the most populous tribe in the country. A deliberate attempt were made to break them into smaller groups.
The west are the ones gaining from the country and they will do anything humanly possible to keep the country as one, so we shouldn't expect any cry of marginalization from them.
The root cause of tension in the country presently is mostly amplified by politics.
Same way European countries use immigration matters to win elections. That's human nature for you.
The main reason Igbos migrate to other regions is that the competition in the east is very high.
For example look at the examination cut off marks for unity colleges in the eastern region, it will give you a perspective of how it is in other areas such as business setup , etc.

No Igbos are not marginalized. What is true is they believe they are marginalized and it has become a religion to them when the real group being trampled upon in Nigeria are the Yoruba. By appointments, by representation and by the siting of government projects the Yoruba and even the Hausa etc are marginalized. The most favoured group are the Igbos.

In the past, when Nigeria started, Igbos were migrating because they had no cities but now they have cities and people are migrating in large numbers to their cities. No city can do without non natives. Such a city will not prosper. Also some people that are non natives have mastered some trades that locals don't have expertise in. Then if I have capital and know how, I will make my money in any city regardless of the competition. I will just take not all but a share of the market.
The idea that competition in the East is high is misleading. You can go with capital into any city. You can also start off as a labourer in any city including Igbo cities and grow to become a high net worth individual if you have good financial skills and good financial skills isn't monopolized by any ethnic group

In the East if the best schools are unity schools then the cut off marks will be high since the number of applications will be high. The best schools in Yoruba land are not unity schools though the cut off marks are high too. None of my nuclear family members went to a unity school. There is infact no unity school in a big city like Ilesa. In the North, why they have low cut off marks is because they have a low number of applications. Not because they are not competent.

If you go online to check the number of registered businesses you will see the SE having by far the lowest number because they have the lowest population

Just last year my cousin sold his land to this Igbo man because his daughter was in hospital and he needed to pay the bills

This year he has the money to buy the same land back but the Igbo man said he won't sell it. Even with a higher price up to 20% on top. And the land is empty except some graves.

Is that good?

manmade:
Let me give you a clearer analogy. If I come and live in your house as a tenant, and after a few years I start claiming ownership of the house and dragging it with you, would you pat me on the back or chase me out of your compound? That is exactly what is happening in most of the places igbo people go and do business, there is always this wrong illusion in their mind that they're smarter than everyone.i have one as a neighbor here and he is already exhibiting this their greedy mind mentality. Whereas, no stranger dare try such things in igbo land , your people don't even allow non igbo to acquire land in the east.

Igbos are not claiming cultural heritage in Lagos lol no Igbo man is buried outside unless he is a fool

We are saying the land is your but the building we call contributed and owned it together I too should have a day on how it’s run especially since u are doing a bad job

Yorubas didn’t build Lagos yes it your land Nigerians built Lagos

Airlord2030:
you didn't read my comment well.
I said one Nigeria is the reason why we have not gone the south African way on igbos ..
You will understand better when Nigeria divides

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I have heard you James Bond 😂 If not for Lord Lugard, we shouldn't be having this conversation.
Herdsmen are causing havoc in your region and you can't cough.
I even doubt if you are truly a Nigerian. Some of the hateful things I see online don't have any connection to Nigeria.
Just elements of destabilisation.

lawani:
No Igbos are not marginalized. What is true is they believe they are marginalized and it has become a religion to them when the real group being trampled upon in Nigeria are the Yoruba. By appointments, by representation and by the siting of government projects the Yoruba and even the Hausa etc are marginalized. The most favoured group are the Igbos.

In the past, when Nigeria started, Igbos were migrating because they had no cities but now they have cities and people are migrating in large numbers to their cities. No city can do without non natives. Such a city will not prosper. Also some people that are non natives have mastered some trades that locals don't have expertise in. Then if I have capital and know how, I will make my money in any city regardless of the competition. I will just take not all but a share of the market.
The idea that competition in the East is high is misleading. You can go with capital into any city. You can also start off as a labourer in any city including Igbo cities and grow to become a high net worth individual if you have good financial skills and good financial skills isn't monopolized by any ethnic group

In the East if the best schools are unity schools then the cut off marks will be high since the number of applications will be high. The best schools in Yoruba land are not unity schools though the cut off marks are high too. None of my nuclear family members went to a unity school. There is infact no unity school in a big city like Ilesa. In the North, why they have low cut off marks is because they have a low number of applications. Not because they are not competent.

If you go online to check the number of registered businesses you will see the SE having by far the lowest number because they have the lowest population

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I don't think I can continue with this conversation. Saying Igbos have the lowest population is just a form of hateful comment.
I don't do those unnecessary stuffs being done in Twitter X.
Africans/Nigerians are really weird.
Good day.

mrvitalis:
Igbos are not claiming cultural heritage in Lagos lol no Igbo man is buried outside unless he is a fool

We are saying the land is your but the building we call contributed and owned it together I too should have a day on how it’s run especially since u are doing a bad job

Yorubas didn’t build Lagos yes it your land Nigerians built Lagos

What sector in Lagos is dominated by non Yorubas? because I can not think of any sector but there are some specialized sub sectors and even those specialized subsectors like auto spare parts, bureau de change and etc still have Yorubas there in good numbers while they are still under the trading sector which on the overall is dominated by the Yoruba.

9japride:
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I don't think I can continue with this conversation. Saying Igbos have the lowest population is just a form of hateful comment.
I don't do those unnecessary stuffs being done in Twitter X.
Africans/Nigerians are really weird.
Good day.

Not lowest in Nigeria of course but much less than half of the Yoruba population or where are they living? I can give you an estimated breakdown of Igbo population and it will not be far from the reality

mrvitalis:
Over and over Yorubas complain about Igbo’s in Lagos

Now I’m asking what exactly is Igbo offense in Lagos

In Ghana and South Africa they are very clear igbos outcompete local businesses and take over markets and businesses…. Is that the problem ? You can’t act like South Africa and Ghana na you are one Nigeria you don’t have that power

Is it that igbos refused to vote APC And are anti Tinubu ? That’s legally within their rights as Nigerians

Is it that Igbos contest for position in Lagos ? That’s exactly within their right as Nigerians

Is it that igbos buy up lands and houses ? That’s within their rights


What exactly is the offense of igbos in Lagos

Being loud and arrogant is not an offense it has never killed anyone

They are taught from kids by their parents to hate omo Igbos

lawani:
Not lowest in Nigeria of course but much less than half of the Yoruba population or where are they living? I can give you an estimated breakdown of Igbo population and it will not be far from the reality

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No need, you have your mindset already made up.
I would love every region who share same cultural background manage themselves.
The east and the west are totally different.
The British who joined everyone together, I hope they are happy now feeling the effects of immigrants who don't share same ideology of life with them.
I don't pity them one bit.

lawani:
What sector in Lagos is dominated by non Yorubas? because I can not think of any sector but there are some specialized sub sectors and even those specialized subsectors like auto spare parts, forex trading and etc still have Yorubas there in good numbers while they are still under the trading sector which on the overall is dominated by the Yoruba.

Igbos are not dominating any sector fine

What then are the offense of igbos

mrvitalis:
Igbos are not dominating any sector fine

What then are the offense of igbos

Good that you've eaten your words.

Next time don't start making up lies that you dominate Lagos except the prison

DeOTR:
Owning a petty trading shop is now equivalent to control to our brothers. Well done. Gwarinpa, the largest estate in Africa, was developed by a company owned by a Yoruba man, we've not claimed Abuja yet, but it's one Emeka living in Masaka that's claiming ownership of the FCT.
Wotowoto awaits you from the real native of the FCT. I know your carelessness will push you to that extreme. It's a matter of time.

Go and sit down there,you can't even control Lagos it's Abuja you want to make mouth.

Which business do you guys know even.