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Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 9:20pm On Jul 03
One doesn't need to bring a bearer before a jury to defend his religion.


The confidence of any believer, would show in their body language, attitude and lifestyle.


It's okay to think your faith is absolute - but bear in mind that, it's not printed nor established in any media or Bible.


Your faith will continue to be in competition with other faith.


One neutral knowledge in-between all religions is agnosticism. The belief in a God and no God.


It's safer to be an agnostic than to confidently "assume" you have found the path of righteousness.








MaxInDHouse:
Never!
You don't need to speak in defense of fake currencies call its bearers out to come and defend their currencies just as i'm doing!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27pm On Jul 03
kayjordan:
It's okay to think your faith is absolute - but bear in mind that, it's not printed nor established in any media or Bible.
Obviously you hate the truth!🙂

Ask anyone to come and use the Bible to defend their faith nah!

The Bible only established Jehovah's Witnesses the only clause is God didn't mention the name specifically otherwise all those false religions will start claiming they are Jehovah's Witnesses if it's written in the Bible but all activities and results points to Jehovah's Witnesses.

That's why you need to call them to come and deny with Scripture if they are true Christians!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 11:45pm On Jul 03
I love truth!

Truth that isn't influenced.

Jehovah's Witnesses is an American religion created in the 19th century or so.

The Catholic Church was created way longer - and all of a sudden, a new movement call JW organization becomes the true religion...?

I personally think it's a smart tactic by JW to claim they existed since the time of Jesus when the founder of JW was only born in the 19th century.




MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you hate the truth!🙂

Ask anyone to come and use the Bible to defend their faith nah!

The Bible only established Jehovah's Witnesses the only clause is God didn't mention the name specifically otherwise all those false religions will start claiming they are Jehovah's Witnesses if it's written in the Bible but all activities and results points to Jehovah's Witnesses.

That's why you need to call them to come and deny with Scripture if they are true Christians!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:02am On Jul 04
kayjordan:
Jehovah's Witnesses is an American religion created in the 19th century or so.
This is what you supposed to have said all this while twisting the issue here and there.

First of all Jehovah's Witnesses is never an American religion that is what faithless people are saying so ask for wisdom that is from above.

But for the benefit of honest hearted and sincere individuals following this thread i will explain.

God established pure worship in the land of Israel but the Israelites keeps on going back to false religions which led to their condemnation {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} from the first century till the 19th century Satan decided not to allow true religion stand himself and his human agents (world rulers) continue to put a ban on Christianity in all places while promoting his own that the Bible called "Babylon the Great" Revelation 17:5-6
From Jerusalem to Rome to England and other lands world rulers keep on persecuting true Christianity while they are propagating false religion in the name of Christ until the 19th century when America declared freedom of speech expression and worship started fighting against any country that's enforcing one religion on people or banning any form of worship as long as the religion doesn't cause any harm in the human society America will defend the right of those practicing it. That was when true Christianity got her freedom spiritually and Jesus used America as the base to establish his congregation and continue the work that was stopped by the Jews in the first century.
So today everything Jesus said about his group has been fulfilled by Jehovah's Witnesses because that is the group he is using therefore don't deceive yourself thinking it's an American religion rather Jesus is the one who established his group in the country where freedom of speech expression and worship was declared.

And for that reason there will never ever be any country that's going to conquer America in fact God has said in His word that it's the system of government established by America which is DEMOCRACY that will be ruling the earth until God's government come:

“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever" Daniel 2:44

The above prophecy means when those practicing democracy (government of the people who made up the majority) is dominating planet earth then God will bring His own system of government that will no longer be passed on the other individuals (as they are voted in and out today) or from one ethnic group to another as it's been done today. God's own government will then rule planet earth forever.

Ọmọ this is the truth if you care to know!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 11:02pm On Jul 04
I quite understand your truth!

Your truth is your "truth".

I don't how your truth feels in your heart - if it feels convincing or if it feels uncertain...

Your write up on JW and how it evolved and how Jesus returns, sound like the parables of yester years.

One thing to note here is that, "imagination" is the best any human of any race can achieve to create a spiritual meaning.

When imagination is challenged, the most convenient defense is - "we owe nobody explanation of God's miracles".

Ofcourse, that's a simple and typical way to bypass proving what can't be touched nor created - simply because your miracles are likely fictional stories of coincidences and psychosomatic experiences.

The "truth" I think you should know is: The God and Jesus Christ of JW Organization and other religions and denominations, is actually "MAN" himself and no other.

The " Jesus Christ" that set up JW Organization in America was the very founder, Mr.Charles Taze Russell himself in physical flesh and blood - not Jesus the Spirit - and not a spirit possessing a man either.

Above explanation is based on the physical human environment every one can understand - not the Harry Potter environment of Jesus Christ came back and set up a religion in a country after 1000 years.


If you believe your storytelling, then you're most likely telling "tales by moonlight" stories to children of the world - or seeing unusual things mentally.







MaxInDHouse:
This is what you supposed to have said all this while twisting the issue here and there.

First of all Jehovah's Witnesses is never an American religion that is what faithless people are saying so ask for wisdom that is from above.

But for the benefit of honest hearted and sincere individuals following this thread i will explain.

God established pure worship in the land of Israel but the Israelites keeps on going back to false religions which led to their condemnation {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} from the first century till the 19th century Satan decided not to allow true religion stand himself and his human agents (world rulers) continue to put a ban on Christianity in all places while promoting his own that the Bible called "Babylon the Great" Revelation 17:5-6
From Jerusalem to Rome to England and other lands world rulers keep on persecuting true Christianity while they are propagating false religion in the name of Christ until the 19th century when America declared freedom of speech expression and worship started fighting against any country that's enforcing one religion on people or banning any form of worship as long as the religion doesn't cause any harm in the human society America will defend the right of those practicing it. That was when true Christianity got her freedom spiritually and Jesus used America as the base to establish his congregation and continue the work that was stopped by the Jews in the first century.
So today everything Jesus said about his group has been fulfilled by Jehovah's Witnesses because that is the group he is using therefore don't deceive yourself thinking it's an American religion rather Jesus is the one who established his group in the country where freedom of speech expression and worship was declared.

And for that reason there will never ever be any country that's going to conquer America in fact God has said in His word that it's the system of government established by America which is DEMOCRACY that will be ruling the earth until God's government come:

“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever" Daniel 2:44

The above prophecy means when those practicing democracy (government of the people who made up the majority) is dominating planet earth then God will bring His own system of government that will no longer be passed on the other individuals (as they are voted in and out today) or from one ethnic group to another as it's been done today. God's own government will then rule planet earth forever.

Ọmọ this is the truth if you care to know!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:06am On Jul 05
kayjordan:
The " Jesus Christ" that set up JW Organization in America was the very founder, Mr.Charles Taze Russell himself in physical flesh and blood - not Jesus the Spirit - and not a spirit possessing a man either.
This is what most people think too but it's not so!🙂

In the Bible Jesus promised that when Satan has caused chaos on planet earth turning everything upside down he (Jesus) will return and reestablish his group in the time of the end because a small group will be seriously making research to know the truth. Matthew 24:45-47

Of course most people said Charles is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses but Jesus proved them wrong!

How?

All the days Charles led the international Bible Students Association himself and all members of the group do celebrate birthdays and Christmas this Jesus later corrected in the year 1926 proving that the group wasn't Charles's founding.

Untill Charles died in the year 1916 the group remains International Bible Students Association this Jesus later corrected in the year 1931 that the name God intended to call all his worshipers is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Untill the year Charles died he was to be referred to as "PASTOR" this Jesus later corrected that we shouldn't bear religious titles in his group. Matthew 23:8-10

So my friend it's a lie Charles is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization but Jesus himself that's why no religion on this planet is meeting up with all the promises God foretold about His worshipers in the last days!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by EnemyofGod4: 6:52am On Jul 05
God doesn't exist, there's no way an imaginary God can answer prayers.
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 4:47pm On Jul 05
Well written explanation.

While your write up sounds realistic in the part of Charles setting up a student Bible association, it also sounds unrealistic, saying Jesus was involved.

If I may ask, was Jesus involved in the creation of JW Organization physically?




MaxInDHouse:
This is what most people think too but it's not so!🙂

In the Bible Jesus promised that when Satan has caused chaos on planet earth turning everything upside down he (Jesus) will return and reestablish his group in the time of the end because a small group will be seriously making research to know the truth. Matthew 24:45-47

Of course most people said Charles is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses but Jesus proved them wrong!

How?

All the days Charles led the international Bible Students Association himself and all members of the group do celebrate birthdays and Christmas this Jesus later corrected in the year 1926 proving that the group wasn't Charles's founding.

Untill Charles died in the year 1916 the group remains International Bible Students Association this Jesus later corrected in the year 1931 that the name God intended to call all his worshipers is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Untill the year Charles died he was to be referred to as "PASTOR" this Jesus later corrected that we shouldn't bear religious titles in his group. Matthew 23:8-10

So my friend it's a lie Charles is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization but Jesus himself that's why no religion on this planet is meeting up with all the promises God foretold about His worshipers in the last days!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 4:49pm On Jul 05
That's a straightforward answer.




EnemyofGod4:
God doesn't exist, there's no way an imaginary God can answer prayers.
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:59pm On Jul 05
kayjordan:
Was Jesus involved in the creation of JW Organization physically?
Do you believe in the spiritual?

If so how does it affect the physical?

But if you don't there is no need arguing about God because God is a spirit! John 4:24
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m):
You are a hard hearted atheist seeking validation!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 9:00pm On Jul 05
This clarifies what I want to know.

You've identified your stance and defense on all matters discussed here, as spiritual rather than physical.

So, I understand better.

I would conclude - the physical world harbors spirituality even if not seen nor perceived with the five senses.





MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe in the spiritual?

If so how does it affect the physical?

But if you don't there is no need arguing about God because God is a spirit! John 4:24
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 9:05pm On Jul 05
If a response is clearer, it shouldn't require further questioning.


I don't totally believe in God. However, I tilt to physical inclination than spiritual inclination.


Earthly activities all show physical efforts than spiritual efforts.


If anyone sees a spiritual effort in any part of society, that area or community will become deserted in one minute.

Everybody will runaway.

And that's realistic.




MaxInDHouse:
Someone said:

Your response is:

And you asked no further questions are you just wasting my precious time since?
Please if you don't believe in God there is no need for this discussion!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:08pm On Jul 05
kayjordan:
The physical world harbors spirituality even if not seen nor perceived with the five senses.
So if what Jesus foretold in the Bible is happening just as he promised to do who would you conclude is doing it?

1. Charles who was wrong until his death.

2. Members of JWs coincidentally.

3. Jesus the spirit king.
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 11:27pm On Jul 05
Fantastic question!

I would say number 2, but not directly.

Here's why: people in the biblical days are no different from people of today.

Jesus read the patterns of people in his days and likely predicted their behaviors in the future.

The natural environment of the biblical days is no different from today's environment. Same earth, same sand, same water.

Jesus and other writers in the Bible saw the patterns of the natural environment and likely predicted outcomes of the environment in the future.

Today, scientists, predict human behaviors, give predictive weather forecasts etc based on patterns and probability.

Anything can be guessed quite accurately with presents facts in front of anyone.

You can guess a paper on a table will fly away if the wind blows - it easy to predict that. No need for magic to predict that.

So if you assume Jesus predicted the future accurately, it most likely coincides with what scientists already predicts.

Everybody is a mini Jesus.




MaxInDHouse:
So if what Jesus foretold in the Bible is happening just as he promised to do who would you conclude is doing it?

1. Charles who was wrong until his death.

2. Members of JWs coincidentally.

3. Jesus the spirit king.
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:50am On Jul 06
kayjordan:
Everybody is a mini Jesus.
It's OK there is no further need talking to you everyone has the right to choose what they will believe and you can't be exempted.
Now i know you just want to deceive yourself and looking for people like you for support.
This is what you want everyone to join you in saying!
EnemyofGod4:
God doesn't exist, there's no way an imaginary God can answer prayers.
kayjordan:
That's a straightforward answer.
Whether you like it or not faithful people who love God will continue to worship Him.

Thanks for wasting my time!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 10:05am On Jul 06
My goal here is to make people think.

On the contrary, I'm not deceiving myself. We think differently.

I'm a practical thinker; you are an abstract thinker.

That's why it may feel extremely difficult to think like me.

And that's why it's extremely difficult for me to think like you.

Education plays a role in everything you know today.

Whatever you are exposed to, determines how you think.

So, you have the free-will to believe and worship anything you want to believe, regardless if it's wrong or right.







MaxInDHouse:
It's OK there is no further need talking to you everyone has the right to choose what they will believe and you can't be exempted.
Now i know you just want to deceive yourself and looking for people like you for support.
This is what you want everyone to join you in saying!




Whether you like it or not faithful people who love God will continue to worship Him.

Thanks for wasting my time!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:33pm On Jul 06
kayjordan:
Education plays a role in everything you know today.
First go and cure yourself from the infection of POLITICS then i will agree that you are TRULY EDUCATED!🙂

Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 1:26pm On Jul 06
Very interesting to know you could fish out my interests so well.

Politics, religion, business, philosophy, science and other subjects, are part of the education system in the world.

Everyone is expected to have a general knowledge of all subjects.

So, being read in politics, religion, business, philosophy, science and other subjects make you EDUCATED.

One can be a specialist in theology and have no knowledge of other subjects

One can have knowledge of other subjects and be brainwashed by religion.

Nevertheless, it's also interesting to know that being born again doesn't exempt some persons from passive-aggressive behavior and emotional reactions.

I'd like you to seek enlightenment beyond your religious knowledge base, the same way you investigated my political interest.






MaxInDHouse:
First go and cure yourself from the infection of POLITICS then i will agree that you are TRULY EDUCATED!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:34pm On Jul 06
kayjordan:
Very interesting to know you could fish out my interests so well. Politics, religion, business, philosophy, science and other subjects, are part of the education system in the world. Everyone is expected to have a general knowledge of all subjects.
There are only two religions on this planet:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

and

POLITICS

So continue with your choice of religion!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 3:03pm On Jul 06
My last paragraph in my rebuttal is important.

If you sit for an examination with this deliberate ideology, you will certainly have a re-sit multiple times.

First, Jehovah's Witnesses is a denomination in Christianity and not a whole religion as you are taught to assume.

All denominations are and should be registered ®️ under the Christian Association of Nigeria.

If you consider politics as a RELIGION just to win an informal argument, then it will be understandable.

But if you consider politics as a RELIGION in truth and in sincerity, then it should be a major concern.

I want to believe you're joking.

And I also want to believe that your JW commentary of it being a Religion and the True Religion is a joke as well.







MaxInDHouse:
There are only two religions on this planet:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

and

POLITICS

So continue with your choice of religion!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:46pm On Jul 06
Since you don't believe in the spiritual how on earth can you understand this?

Well continue with the religion of your choice: POLITICS.

The only thing i want you to know is that people whose interest is in politics can never ever have any real families or friends because politics will always turn them against their loved ones but whoever is interested in the true religion will always love his fellow worshipers just as Jesus loves! John 13:34-35

Keep that until you realize it in the future!🙂
kayjordan:
My last paragraph in my rebuttal is important.
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 8:18pm On Jul 06
You must know, incase you don't know that - politics is important in every society.

Without politics, there will be no functional society.

Those who join politics, do so, to make societies work.

So that people can be safe, businesses can function well and churches like JW, can function and derive tithe as well.

Also note - there are politicians who still have great relationships with their families and friends and examples are Barack Obama who still has a wonderful relationship with his family and friends; Goodluck Jonathan who's still with his family; Yemi Osinbajo who still has his family together; Theresa May who also still has her family together and many others.

Your religious teachers are Propagandists.

I also think you are a POLITICIAN as well...

You likely got a university degree for yourself when you were still practicing Islam.

After getting your degree, you found yourself in JW Organization where you are now taught the opposite of everything you learnt in school.

It would be deceit to say you believe in your religion and at the same time, still believe in science that you were taught in school.

If you were a JW member when you were to write WAEC or JAMB and asked how the earth came about in Geography, that would be the day your faith would be tested - whether you would write "big bang theory" or Genesis chapter 1 for a Geography exam...

If you can oppose, so many scientific explanations on here, how can you and your religious colleagues survive daily in a practical world of unbelief.

If I may ask: If you were invited to a Game Show on TV to win N1million - and asked this question:


"Hello Max! Here comes your question...

"Name ONE Religion from the following options...

"(A) UEFA
"(B) UNITED NATIONS
"(C) JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
"(D) ISLAM

You will be a POLITICIAN if you choose Islam.

And you will be an UNINTELLIGENT PERSON if you choose JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

You know in the deepest part of your heart, what you would choose when a million naira is at stake.

If you walk the path of ignorance or have an extremists belief, you will find it difficult to have friends and survive in society.

If you're surviving in society with such extremists view, it's definitely not God protecting you as you would like to assume - you are probably conforming to societal norms and returning to your church every Sunday in sheep clothing (pretense).







MaxInDHouse:
Since you don't believe in the spiritual how on earth can you understand this?

Well continue with the religion of your choice: POLITICS.

The only thing i want you to know is that people whose interest is in politics can never ever have any real families or friends because politics will always turn them against their loved ones but whoever is interested in the true religion will always love his fellow worshipers just as Jesus loves! John 13:34-35

Keep that until you realize it in the future!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m):
kayjordan:
You must know, incase you don't know that - politics is important in every society. Without politics, there will be no functional society.
Since you don't believe in the spiritual you only believe what you can see this will be extremely difficult for you to grasp.
Well for your information Satan is the spirit behind this system of things and the politics worldly people are practicing so those involved will continue hating, fighting and killing one another.
You once said:
kayjordan:
Everybody is a mini Jesus.
So each person can set standards for himself or herself just as Satan insinuated. Genesis 3:4-5
So continue but know that politics is the wide road Jesus said is filled with many people going into destruction {Matthew 7:13-14} all those involved will continue hating, fighting and killing themselves {Revelation 6:3-4} on the other hand Jehovah's Witnesses is the narrow road leading to everlasting life which only a few are finding all those in it have love among ourselves {John 13:34-35} because the true God who is LOVE dwells in our midst! 1John 4:8🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 10:12pm On Jul 06
According to you, "Jehovah's Witnesses is the narrow road leading to everlasting life" - Yet no JW member is 300 years old on earth.


You say: "people set standards for themselves as Satan insinuated" - Well, Fela set the standard for himself, as he was able to predict the Nigerian government and Nigerians attested to it - he was like a mini Jesus too.


Also, I don't get the issue with politics. Even the churches do politics including your church. You have ushers, head ushers, security department, production department, junior pastors/teachers, senior pastors/teachers - and in all, there's likely still in-fighting and hating amongst you.


Your denomination/church/religion (JW Organization) is as imperfect as everybody and every system on earth.






MaxInDHouse:
Since you don't believe in the spiritual you only believe what you can see this will be extremely difficult for you to grasp.
Well for your information Satan is the spirit behind this system of things and the politics worldly people are practicing so those involved will continue hating, fighting and killing one another.
You once said:


So each person can set standards for himself or herself just as Satan insinuated. Genesis 3:4-5
So continue but know that politics is the wide road Jesus said is filled with many people going into destruction {Matthew 7:13-14} all those involved will continue hating, fighting and killing themselves {Revelation 6:3-4} on the other hand Jehovah's Witnesses is the narrow road leading to everlasting life which only a few are finding all those in it have love among ourselves {John 13:34-35} because the true God who is LOVE dwells in our midst! 1John 4:8🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:50am On Jul 07
kayjordan:
According to you, "Jehovah's Witnesses is the narrow road leading to everlasting life" - Yet no JW member is 300 years old on earth.
That is what you are expecting: MIRACLES
Before you believe in the Good News of God's Kingdom shey?
Well you're never going to see that {Matthew 12:39} but members of the true religion are seeing all the signs because we believe in God.
For your information it's in progress as Jesus foretold:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

Note the highlighted in red Jesus said Jehovah's Witnesses will have families all over the earth which is happening right now then he went on to say we will have everlasting life when God's Kingdom begin operating. So if what he promised us in this system of things is fulfilling in our eyes surely we are going to live forever when God's Kingdom comes! Matthew 6:10; Psalms 37:29

kayjordan:
Your denomination/church/religion (JW Organization) is as imperfect as everybody and every system on earth.
Who told you that God's earthly organization is filled with perfect humans? You keep on showing how low your reasoning is. If everyone in Jehovah's Witnesses organization is perfect what other miracles do you expect unbelievers like you to see?
Ọmọ when the true God insisted that Israelites are his chosen people they were not perfect and that's what other nations fighting and getting destroyed before them expected to see. So keep on waiting for signs that you will never ever see! Matthew 12:39🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 10:18am On Jul 07
All one sees in your religious rebuttal is a hopeful but hopeless messaging by mortals.


You speak in future terms, when the present times are most evident.

You admit your earthly organization is not perfect and one shouldn't expect miracles...

So where did the "miracle of everlasting life" come from?

Israelites were not perfect and yet the Israelites of biblical years (God's people) are no where to be found...


No single news of oldest men and women alive in any newspaper or encyclopedia.

Or perhaps, maybe God has been keeping them in a freezer for 1000 years.


Look, be real with yourself. There's no hope, any JW Organization member will be alive forever, nor will go to heaven on a spiritual aircraft.

Whatever you're seeing or being told by your religious teachers, is creating what is called "Barnum effect".

Your doctrine is an illusion - science fiction and archaic and backward knowledge.

Life in 2026 is like driving a car, while a tiny group of believers (JW) are still using chariots.





MaxInDHouse:
That is what you are expecting: MIRACLES
Before you believe in the Good News of God's Kingdom shey?
Well you're never going to see that {Matthew 12:39} but members of the true religion are seeing all the signs because we believe in God.
For your information it's in progress as Jesus foretold:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

Note the highlighted in red Jesus said Jehovah's Witnesses will have families all over the earth which is happening right now then he went on to say we will have everlasting life when God's Kingdom begin operating. So if what he promised us in this system of things is fulfilling in our eyes surely we are going to live forever when God's Kingdom comes! Matthew 6:10; Psalms 37:29


Who told you that God's earthly organization is filled with perfect humans? You keep on showing how low your reasoning is. If everyone in Jehovah's Witnesses organization is perfect what other miracles do you expect unbelievers like you to see?
Ọmọ when the true God insisted that Israelites are his chosen people they were not perfect and that's what other nations fighting and getting destroyed before them expected to see. So keep on waiting for signs that you will never ever see! Matthew 12:39🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:55am On Jul 07
kayjordan:
You admit your earthly organization is not perfect and one shouldn't expect miracles...
So where did the "miracle of everlasting life" come from?
Miracles happens everyday among God's people but the spectacular display you are expecting won't be given to you.
When Jesus said adulterous generation of his time were seeking a sign but none will be given {Matthew 12:39} it's not that Jesus himself wasn't performing miracles but they are making special demands as if God owes them {Matthew 12:38} whereas they are seeing the signs foretold that the Christ will perform! John 11:47

kayjordan:
Israelites were not perfect and yet the Israelites of biblical years (God's people) are no where to be found...
God foretold that Israelites will be driven away from that place and they will have to scatter among the nations. Leviticus 26:27, 33
So no faithful individual excepts to see the old twelve tribes of Israel again today!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 11:57am On Jul 07
I understand why Jesus didn't want to advertise his powers.

One could assume he was being careful or uncertain about his ability.

What should be asked if JW Organization members in Nigeria are Israelites?

It's very convenient to hide under the canopy of deceit.

Many things people didn't believe in this world, like the universe, dinosaurs etc have been later proven to people through science after billions of years.

Your religious miracles such as "everlasting life" is yet to be proven 1000 years after.

In the next 1000 years, another crop of people will still be promoting Jesus is coming..

After 5,000 years, the same message by the descendants of the same crop of people will still be saying Jesus is coming to give everlasting life.

Is it when a giant asteroid hits planet earth and destroys it after 100,000 years that everlasting life will finally take place?









MaxInDHouse:
Miracles happens everyday among God's people but the spectacular display you are expecting won't be given to you.
When Jesus said adulterous generation of his time were seeking a sign but none will be given {Matthew 12:39} it's not that Jesus himself wasn't performing miracles but they are making special demands as if God owes them {Matthew 12:38} whereas they are seeing the signs foretold that the Christ will perform! John 11:47


God foretold that Israelites will be driven away from that place and they will have to scatter among the nations. Leviticus 26:27, 33
So no faithful individual excepts to see the old twelve tribes of Israel again today!🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:12pm On Jul 07
kayjordan:
Many things people didn't believe in this world, like the universe, dinosaurs etc have been later proven to people through science after billions of years.
Have you seen a dinosaur before?🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by kayjordan(op): 1:27pm On Jul 07
No, I haven't seen a dinosaur in person, but I have seen photos of the specimens.

That is more believable to a reasonable degree.

Not the story that Jesus came in the 19th century to set up JW Organization in a land that will be greater than all nations.

Jesus came and no trumpet was blown nor heard?

Give me a break!





MaxInDHouse:
Have you seen a dinosaur before?🙂
Re: Does God Really Answer Prayers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:52pm On Jul 07
kayjordan:
No.
So you too can believe what you never saw in mission shey?
Is it not the explanation of some people that you relied upon when talking about dinosaurs?
Ọmọ you are just deceiving yourself!🙂
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