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Sportsweb:
Andrey Santos will make Man United Midfield great again

Make he make Chelsea own great first. I go give you Ugarte to support am

Illimitable:
I was told here by Einsteins that he will never make it in the Premier League.

Carragher did a whole session on MNF for 30 minutes, lying to his minions that Lisandro isn’t fit for the rigors of the Premier League.

Carragher has since apologized for his ignorance.



Bro, what is your beef with Messi?

Did he steal your girlfriend?

I also had the same thoughts as Carragher. I like my CBs tall, strong and fast. I know Cannavaro wasn't tall strong or fast as well but CBs with that profile are fewer and less likely to succeed.

MRTA7:
I also had the same thoughts as Carragher. I like my CBs tall, strong and fast. I know Cannavaro wasn't tall strong or fast as well but CBs with that profile are fewer and less likely to succeed.

Has Martinez really been a successful signing? He had one good season which was in his first and hasn't reached that same level again plus he's very injury prone.

MRTA7:
I also had the same thoughts as Carragher. I like my CBs tall, strong and fast. I know Cannavaro wasn't tall strong or fast as well but CBs with that profile are fewer and less likely to succeed.

Our focus should be on our midfielder who is already succeeding

Bombblacks:
Has Martinez really been a successful signing? He had one good season which was in his first and hasn't reached that same level again plus he's very injury prone.

The only issue he has had is injury. Apart from that he's a good signing. Nothing to do with his height

I’m starting to suspect that reaching top 4 wasn’t on the agenda for last season. It feels like the unexpected top 4 achievement has made them confused all of a sudden. The whole saga has made me believe that the management were never prepared for this. They are clueless, uncertain, and unprepared for signing players that are better than the ones we currently have.

No one can confidently say what our approach is so far, and I don’t think the management team can explain as well. I understand the decision not to get rinsed over any player, but beyond that, I just don’t understand what they are trying to do. My fear is that they will buy average players during this transfer window which will set us back by some years.

Average players… average coach… average management team. At this stage, we might be aiming for 7th position next season.

Reports are saying Ederson to United is off. Fabrizio or Ornstein yet to confirm it though.

Ellexy:
Reports are saying Ederson to United is off. Fabrizio or Ornstein yet to confirm it though.

You will like Santos?

odizeey:
You will like Santos?

Omo I just weak. This TW has been underwhelming but let me give INEOS the benefit of doubt because of the ongoing World Cup

Ellexy:
Omo I just weak. This TW has been underwhelming but let me give INEOS the benefit of doubt because of the ongoing World Cup

We will see how it goes down.

odizeey:
The only issue he has had is injury. Apart from that he's a good signing. Nothing to do with his height

Besides injuries Martinez and Mazroui has been one of our best signing

coach martinez is unwell
how far portugal goes in the wc will be in spite of him

-Lord

engrelvis:
Besides injuries Martinez and Mazroui has been one of our best signing

Yes o. Very correct

Bruno Fernandes has had a shocking WC.

But I guess you can say the same for Vitinha and Joao Gomes who so much was expected from.

MRTA7:
Bruno Fernandes has had a shocking WC.

But I guess you can say the same for Vitinha and Joao Gomes who so much was expected from.

Him and Cunha should start resting in preparation for the season ahead biko. We need our guys fully fit and ready to go.

E remain Argentina to comot make Martinez return to base.

MRTA7:
Bruno Fernandes has had a shocking WC.

But I guess you can say the same for Vitinha and Joao Gomes who so much was expected from.

I am really worried. I hope it’s because of the players around him in Portugal, and not something else. We need these guys with their football brains intact abeg.

nitrogen:
I am really worried. I hope it’s because of the players around him in Portugal, and not something else. We need these guys with their football brains intact abeg.

I think it’s fatigue plus Martinez’s incompetence. He played him out of position with no runners in the forward line. Portugal’s campaign on a whole was bad. That’s why Bruno isn’t the only underperforming one. bitinha and co also sucked.

Na today I confirm say world class midfielders can come together and comfortablely play nonsense
Make everybody rest Las las

Leyqute:
I think it’s fatigue plus Martinez’s incompetence. He played him out of position with no runners in the forward line. Portugal’s campaign on a whole was bad. That’s why Bruno isn’t the only underperforming one. bitinha and co also sucked.

Not sure it’s fatigue, as there are other players that played more games than Bruno during the season. I agree with you though re Martinez’s incompetence.

Leyqute:
I think it’s fatigue plus Martinez’s incompetence. He played him out of position with no runners in the forward line. Portugal’s campaign on a whole was bad. That’s why Bruno isn’t the only underperforming one. bitinha and co also sucked.

It's not fatigue..These are midfield players that we just saw dazzle the entire world not up to two months ago for their respective clubs..All of them can't just have lost their football senses in just three weeks..

Martinez is worse than an average manager..Very silly clown..

Leyqute:
I think it’s fatigue plus Martinez’s incompetence. He played him out of position with no runners in the forward line. Portugal’s campaign on a whole was bad. That’s why Bruno isn’t the only underperforming one. bitinha and co also sucked.

Fatigue catch nearly all the Portuguese players but e no catch players from other countries? Hehehe

I can’t illustrate how rubbish Martinez is as a manager. He is the killer of dreams. LOL

Portugal should have hired Jorge Jesus before the world Cup...

Roberto Martínez had both Kevin De Bruyne and Bruno Fernandes, two of the ultimate creative machines in football, yet won absolutely nothing with them. Blame the manager, not the players.

obonujoker:
Roberto Martínez had both Kevin De Bruyne and Bruno Fernandes, two of the ultimate creative machines in football, yet won absolutely nothing with them. Blame the manager, not the players.

ronaldo also didn't help matters
his insistence on playing every minute cost portugal
too stubborn

some would say the manager should have talked it out with him
or imposed his will
but cr7 is 41 years old

play 60 minutes, go rest for the next game in 4 days, and let others contribute to the team
this is not 2010 or 2014 when the team had glaring holes
this roster is stacked and you're 41
have some self-awareness

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ronaldo's stubbornness meant bruno had to play, because he is the most creative player
if both had to play the only two options are 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-1-2
that martinez never tried 4-3-1-2 is proof that he is a terrible manager
luiz enrique has vitinha and neves and always pairs them with fabian
even though he has a superb attack line that gegenpress

portugal had a superb roster that could have been used in a variety of ways
but ronaldo sucked all the oxygen out of the room and limited the setup options
this world cup was a huge missed opportunity for portugal

in hindsight, they should have appointed a different coach, but the nations league win bought martinez more time.
same happened with santos. his nations league win bought him time to go to qatar.

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usually, i'll say ronaldo is unlucky
but this time, he did himself no favors

-Lord

Ronaldo way suppose ACCEPT OG roles and play 5-10 minutes substitute role.

Robert Martinez
Cristaino Ronaldo
All those useless Midfielders are the top culprits

LordAdam16:
ronaldo also didn't help matters
his insistence on playing every minute cost portugal
too stubborn

some would say the manager should have talked it out with him
or imposed his will
but cr7 is 41 years old

play 60 minutes, go rest for the next game in 4 days, and let others contribute to the team
this is not 2010 or 2014 when the team had glaring holes
this roster is stacked and you're 41
have some self-awareness

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ronaldo's stubbornness meant bruno had to play, because he is the most creative player
if both had to play the only two options are 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-1-2
that martinez never tried 4-3-1-2 is proof that he is a terrible manager
luiz enrique has vitinha and neves and always pairs them with fabian
even though he has a superb attack line that gegenpress

portugal had a superb roster that could have been used in a variety of ways
but ronaldo sucked all the oxygen out of the room and limited the setup options
this world cup was a huge missed opportunity for portugal

in hindsight, they should have appointed a different coach, but the nations league win bought martinez more time.
same happened with santos. his nations league win bought him time to go to qatar.

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usually, i'll say ronaldo is unlucky
but this time, he did himself no favors

-Lord

Sportsweb:
Ronaldo way suppose ACCEPT OG roles and play 5-10 minutes substitute role.

Robert Martinez
Cristaino Ronaldo
All those useless Midfielders are the top culprits

maybe he thinks there is an extra medal for playing the full 90 plus extra time at 41
extremely selfish of him

starting is not even the issue
60 minutes in, spain is outplaying portugal, go rest and let the coach make tactical changes
or worst case, defend and take the game to penalties

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as for martinez, less said about him the better

the goal came from man marking failure
it had happened multiple times in the match including the first oyazarbal chance that should have been a goal

portugal's wc campaign was a perfect storm

-Lord

LordAdam16:
ronaldo also didn't help matters
his insistence on playing every minute cost portugal
too stubborn

some would say the manager should have talked it out with him
or imposed his will
but cr7 is 41 years old

play 60 minutes, go rest for the next game in 4 days, and let others contribute to the team
this is not 2010 or 2014 when the team had glaring holes
this roster is stacked and you're 41
have some self-awareness

---

ronaldo's stubbornness meant bruno had to play, because he is the most creative player
if both had to play the only two options are 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-1-2
that martinez never tried 4-3-1-2 is proof that he is a terrible manager
luiz enrique has vitinha and neves and always pairs them with fabian
even though he has a superb attack line that gegenpress

portugal had a superb roster that could have been used in a variety of ways
but ronaldo sucked all the oxygen out of the room and limited the setup options
this world cup was a huge missed opportunity for portugal

in hindsight, they should have appointed a different coach, but the nations league win bought martinez more time.
same happened with santos. his nations league win bought him time to go to qatar.

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usually, i'll say ronaldo is unlucky
but this time, he did himself no favors

-Lord

So, Ronaldo made Bruno and the other quality midfielders to only pass around, sideways or to the back? He also asked the wingers to not bombard the opposition box with crosses?

Is this the first time that they played together? First it was, pressing from the front, now it’s Ronaldo that prevented them from playing attacking and effective football. I don’t think it makes sense. He was just one player on the pitch.

As much as everyone wants to blame Ronaldo, the fact is, the midfield play was shyte with Bruno and co deciding not to turn up. And the only reasonable explanation is that Martinez messed up another good team at the global stage.

It seems I share a birthday with Senne Lammens. Both our birthday's today.

MRTA7:
It seems I share a birthday with Senne Lammens. Both our birthday's today.

Birthday blessings Bro

MRTA7:
It seems I share a birthday with Senne Lammens. Both our birthday's today.

Happy Birthday to una. 🎉

nitrogen:
So, Ronaldo made Bruno and the other quality midfielders to only pass around, sideways or to the back? He also asked the wingers to not bombard the opposition box with crosses?

Is this the first time that they played together? First it was, pressing from the front, now it’s Ronaldo that prevented them from playing attacking and effective football. I don’t think it makes sense. He was just one player on the pitch.

As much as everyone wants to blame Ronaldo, the fact is, the midfield play was shyte with Bruno and co deciding not to turn up. And the only reasonable explanation is that Martinez messed up another good team at the global stage.

i am a fan of ronaldo
but age has caught up to him
he still has the leap and he is still the greatest finisher
but he is not that dynamic anymore

i don't even think he had a bad game yesterday
it is just that in a wc knockout game, the coach should be able to try different approaches
and cr7 made that impossible

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i firmly believe the game would have gone to extra time if ronaldo had been subbed off at the 60-70 minute mark

would portugal win? maybe not
but at least everyone would have played a role
and there will be an acceptance that the team did all it could

instead the game winner against croatia never played a minute of a game that was 0-0 in the 90th minute
that makes no sense
how many minutes of this world cup did trincao and ramos play?

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let me put it simply
portugal's wc campaign was a disaster for several reasons
i'm not saying it is all on ronaldo
personally, i think mendes not being fit played a bigger role in their underwhelming performance
and a different coach could have made cr7 stubbornness a moot point

i'm only saying ronaldo's stubbornness made it impossible for them to explore all the many different ways the team could have played

the next coach should sit with the portuguese fa and tie cr7's call-up to willingness to not have veto power over when he starts or is substituted
at this point, it is better to lose without ronaldo than to lose with ronaldo
yes, we're finally here
otherwise, in two years, he will still be demanding he plays 90 minutes against france in the euros at 43 while getting walloped 5-0

-Lord

LordAdam16:
i am a fan of ronaldo
but age has caught up to him
he still has the leap and he is still the greatest finisher
but he is not that dynamic anymore

i don't even think he had a bad game yesterday
it is just that in a wc knockout game, the coach should be able to try different approaches
and cr7 made that impossible

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i firmly believe the game would have gone to extra time if ronaldo had been subbed off at the 60-70 minute mark

would portugal win? maybe not
but at least everyone would have played a role
and there will be an acceptance that the team did all it could

instead the game winner against croatia never played a minute of a game that was 0-0 in the 90th minute
that makes no sense
how many minutes of this world cup did trincao and ramos play?

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let me put it simply
portugal's wc campaign was a disaster for several reasons
i'm not saying it is all on ronaldo
personally, i think mendes not being fit played a bigger role in their underwhelming performance
and a different coach could have made cr7 stubbornness a moot point

i'm only saying ronaldo's stubbornness made it impossible for them to explore all the many different ways the team could have played

the next coach should sit with the portuguese fa and tie cr7's call-up to willingness to not have veto power over when he starts or is substituted
at this point, it is better to lose without ronaldo than to lose with ronaldo
yes, we're finally here
otherwise, in two years, he will still be demanding he plays 90 minutes against france in the euros at 43 while getting walloped 5-0

-Lord

Does he really have a veto right? He does not like it when he gets substituted or benched, but it should not stop any manager from doing so. ETH and even the previous Portugal manager did it. I believe the main reason he keeps starting for Portugal is that other forwards have not necessarily proved themselves with Portugal. It is a tricky situation.

Unfortunately, the future is bleak. Not sure Portugal can/will win anything tangible after him. Some key players including Bruno are already 30+. Let’s hope they somehow turn up in 2028 and 2030.