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Magnetic010:
Are you pregnant and not sure who the father is?

QuinQQ:
Simple resson: if you've had a child since infancy, he is your child and you're his father and you're obligated to take care of that child till age of maturity. That's how Nature intended it.
It is NOT sperm that makes you someone's father!
Other people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name, references you as his father, and if he ever becomes something ALL fatherhood glory will go to you!

God punish you.... Respectfully of course.

Can you all listen to this one again. What has come up you that you so much want an abomination to be your friend. Why father a child whose father is still alive roaming aimlessly. Why not just go to motherless babies and know that you abducted one.

Doesn't paternity fraud rings something in your head , abi alasedanu leleyi niii. Na was for this generation oo. So if sperm doesn't make you a father what else ooo.

Oga you can corner everyone to behave like you . Completely dilutional beings roaming.

CzarChris:
God punish you.... Respectfully of course.

God has blessed me and continues to bless me.
But never mind me, can you tell us how it benefits the man, the child, or society when a man accepts a child, bonds with the child, then years later start screaming DNA

I disagree, 4 what will dey scrap it. Am suspecting say na woman get this thread, so because men are always d victim, abi?

reservd:
This can only come from one gender

Well, sorry to disappoint you. I'm a full blooded heterosexual man.
But like I told the other guy, never mind me, can you tell us how it benefits the man or the child, or society when a man accepts a child, bonds with the child, then years later start screaming DNA?

QuinQQ:
Then there is no difference between you and lower beings. I'll tag you in the post above

Goodluck higher being

blaise26abj:
WHO had the child ? The mother or the man or both ? What is wrong with the obligation of the sperm donor to raise his own kid ? What is the obligation of the mother ? Is it to collect sperm outside and pin a pregnancy on a man then force him using the state to accept “obligation” .

Very selfish humans some of these broads are . You want a child to carry a woman’s genetic material into the next generation but want the man who doesn’t have one to pay for hers and the sperm donor. Make it make sense

First of all nobody is forcing the man to accept the child. But once he accepts the child and bonds with the child he can't years later start talking DNA. Govt ought step in and prevent that.

You are human with brain not an animal. Y9u ought use that brains to ask yourself what it benefits you that your particular genetic material goes into next generation.
I'll tag you above, whrre this is further duscussed

QuinQQ:
Simple resson: if you've had a child since infancy, he is your child and you're his father and you're obligated to take care of that child till age of maturity. That's how Nature intended it.
It is NOT sperm that makes you someone's father!
Other people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name, references you as his father, and if he ever becomes something ALL fatherhood glory will go to you!

When my brother wanted to relocate with his family, DNA test of his kids were requested.
If he wasn't the biological father of all of them, what would you have suggested he do?
Stay back in Nigeria so he wouldn't abandon the one that isn't his biological child?

QuinQQ:
DNA testing of children is NOT an improvement. It is just an unnecessary fishing expedition that doesn't benefit the child, the man, or society!

Okay,I rest my case .
Not everybody can be helped .

Just because your father took you in when your Mum brought you to him as a product of her polyamory does not mean normal human beings behave in such a morally reckless manner. I am 100% sure my father is my father because my Mum is monogamous with my Dad and did not play Russian roulette with her morals. Secondly, where I was given birth to, DNA is administered at birth as a prevention for potential hereditary medical conditions. So by the most advanced scientific investigation known to human beings, I am a confirmed biological son of my own father, 100%.
It must be really painful to live a life with the possibility that anybody in the community can be your father. Really sad for you, and I see the reason why this absurdity even makes sense to you. Kpelee.

By the way, how is a family where a woman is promiscuous to the extent of bringing bastard children into a home and living with paternity secrets a happy one? How can that exist as a truly happy family? I am now tempted to check the definition of happiness. Well, please go ahead and enjoy your happy family. Peace and love!

QuinQ:
So how are you sure your father is your biological father or your ancestors are your biological?
Did they do any DNA test? What difference has it made? What we're discussing is a happy, settled family suddenly going on DNA fishing - trying to create "bastard" where none exists

I'm a man like you.
And you're disrupting a,settled family, trying to create "bastard" where none exists.
The wife will be VERY happy to do that - women are always trying to take other women's children as their own - sometimes even killing full-term pregnant women to steal their child!

QuinQQ:
Can you please which parts of it are dumb?

Ok let's start this way,, who does your idea favour?
I will tell you,,,"The Women". Not the kids, because I'm very sure you will never want the idea of your man going around impregnating different women. You won't, so why would a man allow illegitimate child in his home, the truth is that your have reduced a man's value to monetary value, that's why you have failed to see that a lot more is involved than to just,"raise a child"
your idea is to shield promiscuity, and from experience I will also tell you this,,,, PEOPLE DEFEND WHAT THEY ARE.
Let that sink in

QuinQ:
Well, DNA never existed all this while and humanity somehow managed to survive!
But this is not even about paternity fraud. This is about upending a child's and family's settled life by going on a DNA fishing expedition

If a mother can reject a baby that is not hers in the hospital why can't a man reject a baby that is not his own no matter the age?

This stinks of fraud. Lol

Why put your senses on hold when you want to write stuffs others will read?

Oga paternity fraud activist, them say make you no use this kain sense cross express ooo!

QuinQQ:
But you can skip all that by simply going back to how it used to be - if you have a child from infancy you're his father and you have an obligation to raise him. And that can be accomplished by simply banning DNA testing of MINORS!

So, that means you approve of people stealing children and going ahead to take of them as their own while the parents look on helplessly even if they suspect a child is theirs.
DNA is not only to establish paternity fraud. It can be used to resolve other cases such as stolen babies, swapped babies etc.

QuinQQ:
You're the one that's not thinking things through. If you really think about it you'd realize sperm is not what makes you child's father

you must be crazy!!!

Na woman write this thing

QuinQQ:
Please explain to me HOW you're defrauded. Remember people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name references you as the person who gave him every thing. And if he ever becomes something ALL the glory will go to you as his father.
Please explain to me HOW you're defrauded

Fight for custody of another person's child?

QuinQQ:
Simple resson: if you've had a child since infancy, he is your child and you're his father and you're obligated to take care of that child till age of maturity. That's how Nature intended it.
It is NOT sperm that makes you someone's father!
Other people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name, references you as his father, and if he ever becomes something ALL fatherhood glory will go to you!

I agree with you if...

You make available a trust fund of billions of naira to take care of such kids,

So the father doesn't have to pay a dime.

Easy to talk.

QuinQ:
I like this your post too much. I hope you don't mind me tagging people on it starting with these ones below.
Nature gave animals an extremely strong instinct to have their genes survive and most of their actions are dictated by that instinct. But as humans with brains why must we be exactly like animals?? We ought USE OUR BRAINS to see that survival of our particular genes benefits us NOTHING! What is important is that we live a fulfilled, satisfying life that includes as much of life as possible, including fatherhood!

This can not be anymore wrong. Ya point seems valid but have you bothered to ask yaselves why some very powerful families are particular about who their descendants marry and have children with?

As a human, you're no animal, you should be different from animals, hence the need of genetic preservation through a specific line. Animals do as you recommend, they just simply increase population.

You're in effect asking humans to be like animals. If you insist humans should ignore matters like that.

If I want to raise another man's child, I'd best adopt instead of having myself played. That's human if you ask me. The option of not minding is exactly how mindless animals do their thing and if you're one like that, a pity..

Smh

I fit bet am N1 billion say nah woman write dis rubbish

QuinQQ:
Simple resson: if you've had a child since infancy, he is your child and you're his father and you're obligated to take care of that child till age of maturity. That's how Nature intended it.
It is NOT sperm that makes you someone's father!
Other people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name, references you as his father, and if he ever becomes something ALL fatherhood glory will go to you!

its complete foolishness for any woman to come into marriage with a pregnancy not belonging to the intended husband and make it look its same...
Tell the truth and await the consequences.
Don't start your home with lies.
Let the man know and let him make his choice if he would carry another mans baggage and promiscous woman.

QuinQ:
Erudite and well-said.
The thing is we haven't had DNA all this time and we have somehow managed to survive!
But this is not even the issue. The issue is not adultery or sex. The issue is upending a family's settled, happy life by going on a DNA fishing expedition! The govt ban gives them incentive not to be tempted to go down that part!

Guy below says it well:

But jokes apart, there's elements of truth here o. Because after the love and bond with my children from pregnancy to infancy to adolescent to adult, many times we've shared love, sufferings, laughter, pains and joy together then one idiot from nowhere wants to drag me to go and do DNA, as how naw? The fact is that, I will never ever want to think whether the children are mine or not. Children wey i nurture from pregnancy till now

Saying we survived before DNA testing is like saying we survived before blood tests, scans and modern medicine. The fact that people lived without a way of discovering the truth does not mean ignorance was better. So that argument does not make sense.

You are also presenting the DNA test as the thing destroying the family. It is not. The betrayal is what destroyed the family. The test only revealed it.
A happy family built on deception is not truly settled. It is only settled because one person has been denied important information about his own life. You cannot protect a family by protecting a lie and preventing the victim from discovering it.

And what exactly is a DNA fishing expedition? A man confirming whether the children he is raising are biologically his? Women investigate men’s phones, messages, locations and friendships because they want to know whether they are being cheated on. Nobody suggests banning phones so women will not be tempted to discover adultery.

The government cannot not ban the truth to discourage people from finding it. That is simply government protected paternity fraud.

The man saying he has loved, suffered, laughed and bonded with the children, therefore he does not want to know whether they are his. That is his personal choice. Nobody is forcing him to take a test. He is free to remain ignorant.
But he has no right to demand that every other man must also remain ignorant.

And let us reverse the situation. A woman raises a child from pregnancy to adulthood and later discovers that the baby was swapped at the hospital. Will anybody tell her not to investigate because she has already loved and bonded with the child? Will the government ban DNA testing so that she is not tempted to disrupt her happy family? Of course not. People will say she deserves the truth and has the right to know what happened to her biological child.

So why is truth important when a woman’s maternity is questioned, but suddenly dangerous when a man’s paternity is questioned?

Love can make someone a parent, but love does not make deception acceptable. A man may discover that a child is not biologically his and still decide to remain the child’s father because of the bond they share. That would be his informed decision.

But forcing him to continue under a lie is not love. It is fraud. The truth does not destroy families. The actions that made the truth painful are what destroyed them.

QuinQQ:
Simple resson: if you've had a child since infancy, he is your child and you're his father and you're obligated to take care of that child till age of maturity. That's how Nature intended it.
It is NOT sperm that makes you someone's father!
Other people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name, references you as his father, and if he ever becomes something ALL fatherhood glory will go to you!

This argument was put forward by a woman. Even animals reject babies that aren't theirs.

Without asking I just know you're probably a woman that is married and have given your husband another man's child or you plan on doing that.

Goodluck sha.

I hope God opens the eyes of your husband.

QuinQQ:
Simple resson: if you've had a child since infancy, he is your child and you're his father and you're obligated to take care of that child till age of maturity. That's how Nature intended it.
It is NOT sperm that makes you someone's father!
Other people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name, references you as his father, and if he ever becomes something ALL fatherhood glory will go to you!

IamAsiri:
So, that means you approve of people stealing children and going ahead to take of them as their own while the parents look on helplessly even if they suspect a child is theirs.
DNA is not only to establish paternity fraud. It can be used to resolve other cases such as stolen babies, swapped babies etc.

Thank you for this. QuinQQ can't see the forest for the tree.

Nairaland moderators working hard for their stipend. God knows which new way you children will remix this topic.

QuinQ:
But this is NOT about parternity fraud or adultery or sex. This is about govt dissuading settled families from unwarranted DNA fishing expeditions (which, actually, is human nature) because it does neither them nor society any good!

Knowing the true paternity of the children he sired doesn't do the individual any good? He can should live out his life in blissful ignorance of the betrayal his partner meted out on him?

Kindly expatiate on what you mean by "uwarranted DNA fishing expeditions", please.

QuinQQ:
Please explain to me HOW you're defrauded. Remember people fight for custody of children tooth and nail. You don't have to do any of that. He's your child and you get ALL the benefits of fatherhood. He carries your name references you as the person who gave him every thing. And if he ever becomes something ALL the glory will go to you as his father.
Please explain to me HOW you're defrauded

If any pregnant woman from nowhere comes out and claims you impregnated her, you automatically becomes the father once the child is born right ?? It’s sad that we have so many people that reasons this way in government. You are so selfish that you so much want to take away the ability of a man to make choices for himself. Why should anyone be forced to raise a child he didn’t father I want a logical and clear explanation.

addictiv:
Saying we survived before DNA testing is like saying we survived before blood tests, scans and modern medicine. The fact that people lived without a way of discovering the truth does not mean ignorance was better. So that argument does not make sense.

You are also presenting the DNA test as the thing destroying the family. It is not. The betrayal is what destroyed the family. The test only revealed it.
A happy family built on deception is not truly settled. It is only settled because one person has been denied important information about his own life. You cannot protect a family by protecting a lie and preventing the victim from discovering it.

And what exactly is a DNA fishing expedition? A man confirming whether the children he is raising are biologically his? Women investigate men’s phones, messages, locations and friendships because they want to know whether they are being cheated on. Nobody suggests banning phones so women will not be tempted to discover adultery.

The government cannot not ban the truth to discourage people from finding it. That is simply government protected paternity fraud.

The man saying he has loved, suffered, laughed and bonded with the children, therefore he does not want to know whether they are his. That is his personal choice. Nobody is forcing him to take a test. He is free to remain ignorant.
But he has no right to demand that every other man must also remain ignorant.

And let us reverse the situation. A woman raises a child from pregnancy to adulthood and later discovers that the baby was swapped at the hospital. Will anybody tell her not to investigate because she has already loved and bonded with the child? Will the government ban DNA testing so that she is not tempted to disrupt her happy family? Of course not. People will say she deserves the truth and has the right to know what happened to her biological child.

So why is truth important when a woman’s maternity is questioned, but suddenly dangerous when a man’s paternity is questioned?

Love can make someone a parent, but love does not make deception acceptable. A man may discover that a child is not biologically his and still decide to remain the child’s father because of the bond they share. That would be his informed decision.

But forcing him to continue under a lie is not love. It is fraud. The truth does not destroy families. The actions that made the truth painful are what destroyed them.

Thank you for this explanation. It’s obvious the argument was raised by an unfaithful person trying to gather support and approval. If care is not taken, they will ask that any man that cries or show emotion should be executed. Treating men like they are not humans.

How about they banning women from requesting for divorce based on husband cheating or impregnating someone else outside ? Does it sound good? Very senseless argument the poster is trying to make.