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LordReed:
Haa, poor guy, he can't think.

QuinQ:
Why doesn't he use his money to marry a consenting underage girl? It is his money and the girl is willing

QuinQQ:
The thread is about the govt recognizing that once a man accepts a child and bonds with the child for several years, that is his child!!! And there ought be a law encouraging him to focus on raising that precious child to adulthood (18), rather than spending time and 100's of thousands on DNA tests! Capisce?

IamAsiri:
Don't care about what the thread is about. Your topic is just wrong, which is what I pointed out.

CoolUsername:
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QuinQQ:
Never mind me, just tell us the benefits of unwarranted fishing expedition expensive DNA on a teenager you've raised and loved from birth

reservd:
I quite agree with you but what happened to the biological father of the "fatherless" children? We are in a society where the actual father can later come and claim his child unless he's already late. This child we are "protecting here, how will he/she feel finding out the person he has been looking up to isn't his/her biological father. My point in all these is just sincerity from the onset, that's all

slimik:
I pour you spit bro you are cursed! 😆

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QuinQ:
Now that many people have agreed with me, I want to state some of the points clearly so that (hopefully) everybody will agree with me.

**1) Birth DNA test is best because it makes this debate mute. But unfortunately we don't have that

**2) A man who has raised and loved a child from infancy to teenage IS HIS FATHER and ought focus on properly raising the precious child to maturity, instead of spending scarce resources on UNWARRANTED DNA FISHING EXPEDITIONS!

**3) Nothing wrong in the state enacting laws to encourage him do just that.

**4) 90% of DNA test cases, the husband is the biological. So we're talking about 10%. Different if the tests were free and unobtrusive. But no, they're expensive and involves the children and their mother who now know their father lacks trust in them. And lacks love for them too because if you love someone you won't be out trying to prove they're not your child! Those are enough to break up a home even if it turns out the father is the biological!

**5) Efect on society as a whole ought also be taken into account. Unwarranted DNA fishing expeditions on teenagers raised from birth can only result in possible broken homes, destruction of trust within the home, and fatherless children that'll likely end up menace to society!

**6) Govt's duty to protect life and property is not helped by broken homes and fatherless children. The main aim ought be to prevent destabilization of families and allow children be raised with both a father and a mother.

**7) Assuming test is negative, the biological will not suddenly appear!

**8} Even if you land in the 10% it is not the end of the world. Remember people pay millions for a child and others fight tooth and nail for custody. Getting a healthy child for free is not the worst thing in the world.

**9) Also remembe that throughout human history there had never been DNA tests yet we're still around and kicking. And sometimes, unbeknownst to the father, the most successful of his children is not even his biological child
but he gets all the accolade as his father and the child carries his name and proudly references him as his father. How is sperm more important than that?

**10) If you study the screenshot below you'll know that many people (maybe including you) are NOT biologically related to some of their ancestors. What difference has it made??

**11) The only father who has testified on this thread wrote: "After.after the love and bonding with my children from pregnancy to infancy to adolescence, many times we've shared love, sufferings, laughter, pains and joy together then one idiot from nowhere wants to drag me to go and do DNA, as how naw?"

Hopefully everyone now agrees with me. If you still don't, all I can say is I'm sorry for you!

QuinQ:
Now that many people have agreed with me, I want to state some of the points clearly so that (hopefully) everybody will agree with me.

**1) Birth DNA test is best because it makes this debate mute. But unfortunately we don't have that

**2) A man who has raised and loved a child from infancy to teenage IS HIS FATHER and ought focus on properly raising the precious child to maturity, instead of spending scarce resources on UNWARRANTED DNA FISHING EXPEDITIONS!

**3) Nothing wrong in the state enacting laws to encourage him do just that.

**4) 90% of DNA test cases, the husband is the biological. So we're talking about 10%. Different if the tests were free and unobtrusive. But no, they're expensive and involves the children and their mother who now know their father lacks trust in them. And lacks love for them too because if you love someone you won't be out trying to prove they're not your child! Those are enough to break up a home even if it turns out the father is the biological!

**5) Efect on society as a whole ought also be taken into account. Unwarranted DNA fishing expeditions on teenagers raised from birth can only result in possible broken homes, destruction of trust within the home, and fatherless children that'll likely end up menace to society!

**6) Govt's duty to protect life and property is not helped by broken homes and fatherless children. The main aim ought be to prevent destabilization of families and allow children be raised with both a father and a mother.

**7) Assuming test is negative, the biological will not suddenly appear!

**8} Even if you land in the 10% it is not the end of the world. Remember people pay millions for a child and others fight tooth and nail for custody. Getting a healthy child for free is not the worst thing in the world.

**9) Also remembe that throughout human history there had never been DNA tests yet we're still around and kicking. And sometimes, unbeknownst to the father, the most successful of his children is not even his biological child
but he gets all the accolade as his father and the child carries his name and proudly references him as his father. How is sperm more important than that?

**10) If you study the screenshot below you'll know that many people (maybe including you) are NOT biologically related to some of their ancestors. What difference has it made??

**11) The only father who has testified on this thread wrote: "After.after the love and bonding with my children from pregnancy to infancy to adolescence, many times we've shared love, sufferings, laughter, pains and joy together then one idiot from nowhere wants to drag me to go and do DNA, as how naw?"

Hopefully everyone now agrees with me. If you still don't, all I can say is I'm sorry for you!

QuinQ:
Now that many people have agreed with me, I want to state some of the points clearly so that (hopefully) everybody will agree with me.

**1) Birth DNA test is best because it makes this debate mute. But unfortunately we don't have that

**2) A man who has raised and loved a child from infancy to teenage IS HIS FATHER and ought focus on properly raising the precious child to maturity, instead of spending scarce resources on UNWARRANTED DNA FISHING EXPEDITIONS!

**3) Nothing wrong in the state enacting laws to encourage him do just that.

**4) 90% of DNA test cases, the husband is the biological. So we're talking about 10%. Different if the tests were free and unobtrusive. But no, they're expensive and involves the children and their mother who now know their father lacks trust in them. And lacks love for them too because if you love someone you won't be out trying to prove they're not your child! Those are enough to break up a home even if it turns out the father is the biological!

**5) Efect on society as a whole ought also be taken into account. Unwarranted DNA fishing expeditions on teenagers raised from birth can only result in possible broken homes, destruction of trust within the home, and fatherless children that'll likely end up menace to society!

**6) Govt's duty to protect life and property is not helped by broken homes and fatherless children. The main aim ought be to prevent destabilization of families and allow children be raised with both a father and a mother.

**7) Assuming test is negative, the biological will not suddenly appear!

**8} Even if you land in the 10% it is not the end of the world. Remember people pay millions for a child and others fight tooth and nail for custody. Getting a healthy child for free is not the worst thing in the world.

**9) Also remembe that throughout human history there had never been DNA tests yet we're still around and kicking. And sometimes, unbeknownst to the father, the most successful of his children is not even his biological child
but he gets all the accolade as his father and the child carries his name and proudly references him as his father. How is sperm more important than that?

**10) If you study the screenshot below you'll know that many people (maybe including you) are NOT biologically related to some of their ancestors. What difference has it made??

**11) The only father who has testified on this thread wrote: "After.after the love and bonding with my children from pregnancy to infancy to adolescence, many times we've shared love, sufferings, laughter, pains and joy together then one idiot from nowhere wants to drag me to go and do DNA, as how naw?"

Hopefully everyone now agrees with me. If you still don't, all I can say is I'm sorry for you!

LordReed:
Where did you get 10% from?

DMCA:
If i want that kind pikin i go go adopt from orphanage
madam society
if u dey caged by society, allow others who wan dey free make their choice.
na by force?

QuinQQ:
You're already caged by society on so many ways. Example, you can’t have sex with or marry a 16-year-old who loves you and want to marry you. You can't use your own money to grow Marijuana in your own room and smoke it - something that doesn't impact society o. At least a fatherless child impacts society

Also, statistically, there is less than 10% chance the child won't test as your boological

QuinQQ:
But this includes everybody. Our target audience (stable homes where the man has raised the teenager from infancy) will be less than 10%.
But I commend your diligence verifying it. Most people take statistics thrown at them at face value.

DMCA:
u no read as women d fake pregnancies go thief or buy pikin to come present to their husbands as their own.
d man go think say na him biological pikin when d pikin no be any of theirs?
u go school so?
if u go school, na which kind result u even carry comot?

CanadaOrBust:
I agree with you. But it won't work because they now have home DNA tests.
What government should do is find a way to prevent stupid, lazy, and criminal people from breeding.

DMCA:
If e like make e turn president tomorrow, I no want d bastard associated with me
make e no carry my name

LordReed:
The question is how do you know? Are you just guessing?

Nature gave we animals an extremely strong instinct to have our genes survive and most of our actions are dictated by that instinct. That's why men want to sleep with as many women as possible and why a mother gazelle
would give her life for her baby. But as humans with brains why must we be exactly like lower animals?? We ought USE OUR BRAINS to see that survival of our particular genes benefits us NOTHING! What is important is that we live a fulfilled, satisfying life that includes as much of life as possible, including fatherhood!
We are not lower animals. We are humans. God gave us the ability to reason, the ability to think thongs through. We ought be able to use it to override our base animal instincts!

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QuinQ:
Common sense, that's how. Rather obvious.

But never mind all that. what do you think of this below? Don't you think we ought be able to override our animal instinct with reasoning? Why must a person's particular genes survive? How does that benefit the person?? What do you think of this: the best women's eggs are fertilized with the best men's sperm and children mass-produced and distributed? That way evrryone experiences fatherhood and motherhood and all the children have great genes! Just say what's wrong with the plan, don't insult or call me names!

QuinQ:
Common sense, that's how. Rather obvious.

But never mind all that. what do you think of this below? Don't you think we ought be able to override our animal instinct with reasoning? Why must a person's particular genes survive? How does that benefit the person?? What do you think of this: the best women's eggs are fertilized with the best men's sperm and children mass-produced and distributed? That way evrryone experiences fatherhood and motherhood and all the children have great genes! Just say what's wrong with the plan, don't insult or call me names!

correctguy101:
Come on, I've told you before in another way. There's a reason for selective breeding.

And as an animal different from the rest, humans truly have a just cause to do selective breeding.

You can't decide to do it anyhow like common animals. Even in the animal world, some do choose who they mate with. Let alone humans.

Why do you think that happens?

Ya claims are not founded on solid grounds. Sorry...


Lemme share something real personal. But before I choose to have a child with any woman, she must have records that are encouraging even if you check to the third generation... My reason is simple. My Uncle...

The old boy married in the 70s one fine girl. But she has more than one person in her family that has succumbed to madness, and she's showing signs as the years pass. Today, she's semi crazy.

So how I no go wonder the pool I'm mixing my own genes with? That's why all these things gained credibility.

There are stupid women out there who go find and make out with psychopaths and total inhumane animals, whose idiocy springs from defective genes. So make we accept them too?

By my Creator, stop please. You know how many loonies dey outside? then some woman that says she's a wife would now make me take care of the child of a loonie? What if the child inherits the defective genes?

The peace of any man is self given, not even the children he has could make that possible. All they can be is an addition to the peace a man already has.

If not for my privacy I would have posted some pictures. But let's leave it at that.

Lordreed, what do you truly think about this matter our op brought up. I would like to know if it's possible for a man, aware of these possibilities to decide to be ignorant of such an easy matter as this and be happy....

I personally feel it's impossible.

correctguy101:
Come on, I've told you before in another way. There's a reason for selective breeding.

And as an animal different from the rest, humans truly have a just cause to do selective breeding.

You can't decide to do it anyhow like common animals. Even in the animal world, some do choose who they mate with. Let alone humans.

Why do you think that happens?

Ya claims are not founded on solid grounds. Sorry...


Lemme share something real personal. But before I choose to have a child with any woman, she must have records that are encouraging even if you check to the third generation... My reason is simple. My Uncle...

The old boy married in the 70s one fine girl. But she has more than one person in her family that has succumbed to madness, and she's showing signs as the years pass. Today, she's semi crazy.

So how I no go wonder the pool I'm mixing my own genes with? That's why all these things gained credibility.

There are stupid women out there who go find and make out with psychopaths and total inhumane animals, whose idiocy springs from defective genes. So make we accept them too?

By my Creator, stop please. You know how many loonies dey outside? then some woman that says she's a wife would now make me take care of the child of a loonie? What if the child inherits the defective genes?

The peace of any man is self given, not even the children he has could make that possible. All they can be is an addition to the peace a man already has.

If not for my privacy I would have posted some pictures. But let's leave it at that.

Lordreed, what do you truly think about this matter our op brought up. I would like to know if it's possible for a man, aware of these possibilities to decide to be ignorant of such an easy matter as this and be happy....

I personally feel it's impossible.

LordReed:
So you just guessed? You didn't look at any actually data, you are just basing your opinion on a guess!

If I talk now you will say I'm insulting you.

And to top it off you want a eugenics program. Do you need me to explain why a eugenics program is a bad idea? Not to talk of why you would choose a program similar to what the Nazi wanted.

Bro you are so full of bad ideas.

LordReed:
Yes it is possible for a man to be aware that a child may not be his and still choose to raise the child. But the issue here is Quin wants the state to curtail the rights of EVERY MAN. Look now he even dreams of a state powered eugenics program. The last time we heard of something like that it was from the Nazis. Basically Quin is dreaming of a fascist state that forces men to father children that are not theirs. Do we need to elaborate all the ways this is a bad idea? After 15 pages of sound arguments to the contrary?

QuinQ:
Common sense, that's how. Rather obvious.

But never mind all that. what do you think of this below? Don't you think we ought be able to override our animal instinct with reasoning? Why must a person's particular genes survive? How does that benefit the person?? What do you think of this: the best women's eggs are fertilized with the best men's sperm and children mass-produced and distributed? That way evrryone experiences fatherhood and motherhood and all the children have great genes! Just say what's wrong with the plan, don't insult or call me names!

QuinQ:
Common sense, that's how. Rather obvious.

But never mind all that. what do you think of this below? Don't you think we ought be able to override our animal instinct with reasoning? Why must a person's particular genes survive? How does that benefit the person?? What do you think of this: the best women's eggs are fertilized with the best men's sperm and children mass-produced and distributed? That way evrryone experiences fatherhood and motherhood and all the children have great genes! Just say what's wrong with the plan, don't insult or call me names!

CanadaOrBust:
But who will decide "the best men" and "the best women"? I feel I'm a best man and I'm sure many people feel they're best men too

DMCA:
u never tire to d copy and paste same reply to everyone over and over?

LordReed:
Unlike you I don't arrogantly think the ideas I dreamed up while navel gazing are supreme, I can recognise when people have excellent points. Lots of people have given you well thought out and well written rebuttals to anything you have to say and instead of considering it you just repeat your already thoroughly defeated idea.

Secretbloodline:
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