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Poll: If a man refuses DNA test because he loves the child too much does that make him a simp?

Yes 66% (4 votes)
No 33% (2 votes)
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Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 2:47am On Jul 25
Secretbloodline:
That document been changed so many times its pathetic. The proof is in the pudding. My forefathers were born free and Prince Hall and men like your fathers were born slaves. grin

That's just the gist of it.
See him proud that his forefathers were born free. Something that is the norm. Just this marks you an inferior being.
My friend, everybody is born free and nobody is a slave. There are people who are enslaved by wicked people but that doesn’t make them inherently slaves. What it does is make their enslavers subhuman and evil and belonging in the worst part of hell!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 2:50am On Jul 25
Secretbloodline:
All lies. There's not a free people of color who hates the Code de Nior. No English law was it's moral equal. No African law was it's moral equal. Whilst the Anglos and Africans traded slaves the Creoles set them free. There's no proof in AI pre programmed assertions that can dispute all the free people of color communities created that didn't exist anywhere else except France, Spain, Portugal and Spain. Slavery was everywhere even in China and Japan. We're the only people at the time except Arabs who set people free under religious piety.
Lies everywhere. Read below

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 2:54am On Jul 25
Secretbloodline:
All lies. There's not a free people of color who hates the Code de Nior. No English law was it's moral equal. No African law was it's moral equal. Whilst the Anglos and Africans traded slaves the Creoles set them free. There's no proof in AI pre programmed assertions that can dispute all the free people of color communities created that didn't exist anywhere else except France, Spain, Portugal and Spain. Slavery was everywhere even in China and Japan. We're the only people at the time except Arabs who set people free under religious piety.
Brainwashing of the worst kind. Here's the Code Noir we'er talking about below

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by Secretbloodline: 4:11am On Jul 25
QuinQQ:
See him proud that his forefathers were born free. Something that is the norm. Just this marks you an inferior being.
My friend, everybody is born free and nobody is a slave. There are people who are enslaved by wicked people but that doesn’t make them inherently slaves. What it does is make their enslavers subhuman and evil and belonging in the worst part of hell!
Human beings were born enslaved. No one said that the divine world put them in slavery only the world of men .
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by Secretbloodline: 4:11am On Jul 25
QuinQQ:
Brainwashing of the worst kind. Here's the Code Noir we'er talking about below
It's an edited document not the original. grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 6:47am On Jul 25
QuinQ:
I don't do Yaba Left types
u don't have a choice delulu cool
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 6:48am On Jul 25
QuinQ:
Drip??! I don't drip. Do himan beings drip? You drip? Let's ask our resident Creole, New Orleans, Louisiana Creole, Secretbloodline, if he drips (what a moniker! Talk about obsession!)
delulu, u no want make him talk about him bloodline wey secret? grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 8:36am On Jul 25
DMCA:
u don't have a choice delulu cool
I don't? How so? Could you please elaborate? I find this very interesting
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op):
DMCA:
delulu, u no want make him talk about him bloodline wey secret? grin
Have you ever seen such total brainwashing in your life??! grin He's very proud to have collected some DNA from rapists and soulless enslavers!
And this obsession with bloodline (to the extent he picked secretbloodline as moniker), I think it is karma from such DNA
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 9:15am On Jul 25
Secretbloodline:
Human beings were born enslaved. No one said that the divine world put them in slavery only the world of men .
If you think so why then do you constantly refer to humans forcefully abducted from their homeland as slaves? And so proud you share some DNA with their soulless rapist enslavers - rape that resulted in your mixed colour. Same DNA that probably guarantees a place in hell!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 9:25am On Jul 25
Secretbloodline:
It's an edited document not the original. grin
EVERYTHING you read refers to the original Code Noir, as spelt out below.
Honestly you are the most extreme case of total brainwashing I have ever interacted with - to the extent of literally calling white black and black white! grin

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by Secretbloodline: 11:35am On Jul 25
QuinQQ:
EVERYTHING you read refers to the original Code Noir, as spelt out below.
Honestly you are the most extreme case of total brainwashing I have ever interacted with - to the extent of literally calling white black and black white! grin
The original Code de Nior is the loads of free people. The proof was in the pudding. The Anglos rewrote alot of history that you Prince Hall validates your daddy's story.
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op):
Secretbloodline:
The original Code de Nior is the loads of free people. The proof was in the pudding. The Anglos rewrote alot of history that you Prince Hall validates your daddy's story.
Folks can anybody please help me with this lost and totally brainwashed fellow?
He's so proud to have collected some DNA from rapists and soulless enslavers that he denies having any African blood!
Even the original 1685 Code Noir (see it above) that is acknowledged the most draconian legal monstrosity ever created, he says of it, quote, "No English law was it's moral equal. No African law was it's moral equal"!

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Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 1:51pm On Jul 25
ARISHEM:
Who asked or hired you to speak for their Mother. angry
Do you see me mention the mother anywhere? Has nothing to do with the mother. The focus should be on the teenager and his upbringing to maturity not on the mother or DNA
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by CanadaOrBust: 2:43pm On Jul 25
QuinQ:
Who decides everything else in society? Who decided Tinubu will be President? But there'd also be gene selection and gene editing, not that the "best" will be taken without alteration. Also some integration with AI will be added. People will not be banned from having their own babies if they still choose but of course their babies wont be able to compete with these babies.
Aren't we now delving into something else altogether?
Biblical 666 comes to mind
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo:
QuinQQ:
Folks can anybody please help me with this lost and totally brainwashed fellow?
He's so proud to have collected some DNA from rapists and soulless enslavers that he denies having any African blood!
Even the original 1685 Code Noir (see it above) that is acknowledged the most draconian legal monstrosity ever created, he says of it, quote, "No English law was it's moral equal. No African law was it's moral equal"!
Maybe the poor black woman who was raped to produce his ancestor was not from Africa. Just saying. Not every black person is from Africa.
And it was all a big secret, hence Secretbloodline grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by Secretbloodline: 3:49pm On Jul 25
DiarisGodoo:
Maybe the poor black woman who was raped to produce his ancestor was not from Africa. Just saying. Not every black person is from Africa
My mother's lineage isn't West Africa. My forefathers were never slaves. My forefathers came from French people of color of the house of Burbourn. Many Creole people can from free born people and they freed your people that were sold into slavery by their own kind. I can throw a stone in Lagos a hit a 1000 Black people that there ancestors were slaves during the Pre Colonial period. Just because your ancestors wasn't put on a boat doesn't mean that they wasn't slaves in a land were Slavery was celebrated. How many of your slave ancestors were raped by men of other tribes in slave raids or taken advantage of by her slave owners. You desire to put all Creoles into the category of raped slave cities but truly it is more true about some of you than it is Creoles. grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by Secretbloodline: 3:50pm On Jul 25
DiarisGodoo:
Maybe the poor black woman who was raped to produce his ancestor was not from Africa. Just saying. Not every black person is from Africa.
And it was all a big secret, hence Secretbloodline grin
### Echoes of Èkó: War, Bloodlines, and the Crucible of Modern Lagos

To look upon the glittering, kinetic expanse of modern Lagos is to witness a masterpiece of human convergence. Yet, beneath the vibrant rhythms of Nigeria’s economic heartbeat lies a foundation forged in the alchemist's fire of pre-colonial empires. Long before it was a global mega-city, Lagos—then known as Èkó—was a strategic prize, a coastal theater where the Kingdom of Benin, the Oyo Empire, and the fierce militarism of Dahomey vied for dominance.

In this era of shifting borders, captivity was the raw currency of power. Dominant regional empires systematically subjugated local sub-ethnic groups—the indigenous Awori, the coastal Popo (Egun), and the inland Ijebu and Egba. The stories of these ancestors are woven directly into the biological tapestry of the people who walk the streets of Lagos today.

---

### The Gendered Shadow of Captivity: Systemic Violence and Sovereignty

History often records the movements of armies and the exchange of crowns, but the truest, most intimate ledger of pre-colonial warfare was written on the bodies of captive women. While male prisoners of war were frequently routed toward grueling agricultural labor, ritual sacrifice, or the devastating currents of the transatlantic trade, female captives faced a distinct, highly gendered form of systemic vulnerability.

Within the grand compounds of wealthy warlords and the sprawling palaces (Afin) of regional kings, these women were integrated as domestic concubines through what can only be described as a normalized infrastructure of structural rape.

* **The Erasure of Customary Protections:** In traditional West African societies, a legitimate marriage required the payment of a bride price (Owo Ori) to the woman's family. This exchange was not merely financial; it was a sacred legal contract that bound a woman’s birth family to her defense. Because captive women were violently severed from their kin, masters could access them sexually without paying a bride price. This stripped them of all traditional human rights, leaving them with no kinship shield against physical, psychological, or sexual abuse.
* **Reproductive Exploitation:** This sexual violence was highly strategic. The children born of these forced unions were vital to the expansion of a master’s household, inflating both his domestic agricultural workforce and his future military ranks.

THE CRUCIBLE OF LAGOASIAN IDENTITY

[ Benin Aristocracy ] [ Indigenous Awori ]
│ │
└──────────────┬───────────────┘
▼
[ BENIN-AWORI MIXTURE ]
(Modern Lagos Ruling Class)
│
├◄─── [ Hinterland Refugees ] (Egba / Ijebu)
│
├◄─── [ Transatlantic Returnees ] (Saro / Aguda)
▼
【 MODERN LAGOSIAN LINEAGE 】

---

### The Distinct Plight: Captive Women vs. Atlantic Creoles

To truly understand the profound trauma of the pre-colonial African slave caste, their plight must be distinguished from that of Free People of Color or Atlantic Creoles.

Across the Atlantic world—from Paris and New Orleans to Sierra Leone and the trading ports of the West African coast—Creoles and Free People of Color occupied a unique, privileged middle tier. Many were born free, descended from European traders and local African elite women. They possessed wealth, formal literacy, international networks, and legal recognition. They were active agents in commerce, often acting as the very brokers who negotiated the sale of captives.

In stark contrast, the internal captive women of the Lagos hinterlands possessed no such mobility. Their reality was one of absolute, unmediated subjugation. They could not appeal to colonial courts, invoke international trade laws, or rely on mercantile wealth to buy their freedom. While a Creole woman might navigate high society with a degree of bodily autonomy and social prestige, a captive woman in a warlord's compound was legally classified as an object.

Her identity was systematically erased, her labor was entirely uncompensated, and her womb was treated as a tool of state-building for the very empire that had slaughtered her original family.

---

### The Alchemical Blend: How War Rewrote the Tribal Map

As the 18th and 19th centuries progressed, the geopolitical landscape of the Yoruba hinterland fractured, sending shockwaves down to the Lagos lagoon. The collapse of the Oyo Empire sparked decades of devastating civil wars, setting off a massive migration of displaced peoples and captured souls. This chaotic displacement effectively acted as a historical crucible, blending distinct tribal identities into something entirely new.

* **The Benin-Awori Synthesis:** When the forces of the Oba of Benin secured Èkó in the 16th century, soldiers and nobles settled among the indigenous Awori. Through centuries of forced concubinage and political intermarriage with Awori women, a distinct ruling elite emerged. This explains why the modern traditional aristocracy of Lagos—the Oba and his White Cap Chiefs—retain Benin court customs, royal attire, and titles to this day, even while speaking the Yoruba language.
* **The Fusion of the Estate Communities:** In the vast agricultural plantations (Rinji) and transit camps surrounding the lagoon, captives from rival factions—Egba, Ijebu, Ijesha, and Oyo—were forced into intimate, crowded cohabitation. Stripped of their specific geography, these families intermarried and bore children. The old, fierce tribal rivalries melted away in the shared experience of survival, crystallizing into a unified coastal, metropolitan identity.
* **The Badagry Borderlands:** Along the western corridors, the relentless pressure of Dahomean raids created a highly resilient, bilingual population. Here, Popo (Ogu) and Yoruba lineages mixed constantly through capture and assimilation, creating fluid communities that defied rigid ethnic categorizations.
* **The Return of the Diaspora:** The tapestry gained its final, intricate layers in the 19th century with the arrival of the Saro (Sierra Leonean) and Aguda (Brazilian and Cuban) freedmen. Ironically, these returning Creoles and Free People of Color intermarried with the local population, blending their elite status with the bloodlines of those who had survived domestic captivity on the continent.

--

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 5:12pm On Jul 25
QuinQQ:
Have you ever seen such total brainwashing in your life??! grin He's very proud to have collected some DNA from rapists and soulless enslavers!
And this obsession with bloodline (to the extent he picked secretbloodline as moniker), I think it is karma from such DNA
if to say i be white man with u working on my cotton farm, I for been d deposit for ur bank steady too grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 5:17pm On Jul 25
QuinQQ:
I don't? How so? Could you please elaborate? I find this very interesting
imagine u in d late 1800s working on my father's cotton field. cool
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 5:53pm On Jul 25
Secretbloodline:
My mother's lineage isn't West Africa. My forefathers were never slaves. My forefathers came from French people of color of the house of Burbourn. Many Creole people can from free born people and they freed your people that were sold into slavery by their own kind. I can throw a stone in Lagos a hit a 1000 Black people that there ancestors were slaves during the Pre Colonial period. Just because your ancestors wasn't put on a boat doesn't mean that they wasn't slaves in a land were Slavery was celebrated. How many of your slave ancestors were raped by men of other tribes in slave raids or taken advantage of by her slave owners. You desire to put all Creoles into the category of raped slave cities but truly it is more true about some of you than it is Creoles. grin
I am in Southern US right now, very close to where you write about. In fact my very first girlfriend (who almost worshipped me because I was the best in Physics class) was a light-skinned Creole. We met in Physics class and she was the first persin I heard the word "Creole" from. You must be an old person because the current generation don't think like this. She would say almost everything you writing here is a lie.

I saw OP already told you there were no slaves before arrival of Europeans. He is right. Whoever was writing what you posted never experienced Wrst Africa before arrival of outsiders.
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 6:11pm On Jul 25
Secretbloodline:
### Echoes of Èkó: War, Bloodlines, and the Crucible of Modern Lagos

To look upon the glittering, kinetic expanse of modern Lagos is to witness a masterpiece of human convergence. Yet, beneath the vibrant rhythms of Nigeria’s economic heartbeat lies a foundation forged in the alchemist's fire of pre-colonial empires. Long before it was a global mega-city, Lagos—then known as Èkó—was a strategic prize, a coastal theater where the Kingdom of Benin, the Oyo Empire, and the fierce militarism of Dahomey vied for dominance.

In this era of shifting borders, captivity was the raw currency of power. Dominant regional empires systematically subjugated local sub-ethnic groups—the indigenous Awori, the coastal Popo (Egun), and the inland Ijebu and Egba. The stories of these ancestors are woven directly into the biological tapestry of the people who walk the streets of Lagos today.

---

### The Gendered Shadow of Captivity: Systemic Violence and Sovereignty

History often records the movements of armies and the exchange of crowns, but the truest, most intimate ledger of pre-colonial warfare was written on the bodies of captive women. While male prisoners of war were frequently routed toward grueling agricultural labor, ritual sacrifice, or the devastating currents of the transatlantic trade, female captives faced a distinct, highly gendered form of systemic vulnerability.

Within the grand compounds of wealthy warlords and the sprawling palaces (Afin) of regional kings, these women were integrated as domestic concubines through what can only be described as a normalized infrastructure of structural rape.

* **The Erasure of Customary Protections:** In traditional West African societies, a legitimate marriage required the payment of a bride price (Owo Ori) to the woman's family. This exchange was not merely financial; it was a sacred legal contract that bound a woman’s birth family to her defense. Because captive women were violently severed from their kin, masters could access them sexually without paying a bride price. This stripped them of all traditional human rights, leaving them with no kinship shield against physical, psychological, or sexual abuse.
* **Reproductive Exploitation:** This sexual violence was highly strategic. The children born of these forced unions were vital to the expansion of a master’s household, inflating both his domestic agricultural workforce and his future military ranks.

THE CRUCIBLE OF LAGOASIAN IDENTITY

[ Benin Aristocracy ] [ Indigenous Awori ]
│ │
└──────────────┬───────────────┘
▼
[ BENIN-AWORI MIXTURE ]
(Modern Lagos Ruling Class)
│
├◄─── [ Hinterland Refugees ] (Egba / Ijebu)
│
├◄─── [ Transatlantic Returnees ] (Saro / Aguda)
▼
【 MODERN LAGOSIAN LINEAGE 】

---

### The Distinct Plight: Captive Women vs. Atlantic Creoles

To truly understand the profound trauma of the pre-colonial African slave caste, their plight must be distinguished from that of Free People of Color or Atlantic Creoles.

Across the Atlantic world—from Paris and New Orleans to Sierra Leone and the trading ports of the West African coast—Creoles and Free People of Color occupied a unique, privileged middle tier. Many were born free, descended from European traders and local African elite women. They possessed wealth, formal literacy, international networks, and legal recognition. They were active agents in commerce, often acting as the very brokers who negotiated the sale of captives.

In stark contrast, the internal captive women of the Lagos hinterlands possessed no such mobility. Their reality was one of absolute, unmediated subjugation. They could not appeal to colonial courts, invoke international trade laws, or rely on mercantile wealth to buy their freedom. While a Creole woman might navigate high society with a degree of bodily autonomy and social prestige, a captive woman in a warlord's compound was legally classified as an object.

Her identity was systematically erased, her labor was entirely uncompensated, and her womb was treated as a tool of state-building for the very empire that had slaughtered her original family.

---

### The Alchemical Blend: How War Rewrote the Tribal Map

As the 18th and 19th centuries progressed, the geopolitical landscape of the Yoruba hinterland fractured, sending shockwaves down to the Lagos lagoon. The collapse of the Oyo Empire sparked decades of devastating civil wars, setting off a massive migration of displaced peoples and captured souls. This chaotic displacement effectively acted as a historical crucible, blending distinct tribal identities into something entirely new.

* **The Benin-Awori Synthesis:** When the forces of the Oba of Benin secured Èkó in the 16th century, soldiers and nobles settled among the indigenous Awori. Through centuries of forced concubinage and political intermarriage with Awori women, a distinct ruling elite emerged. This explains why the modern traditional aristocracy of Lagos—the Oba and his White Cap Chiefs—retain Benin court customs, royal attire, and titles to this day, even while speaking the Yoruba language.
* **The Fusion of the Estate Communities:** In the vast agricultural plantations (Rinji) and transit camps surrounding the lagoon, captives from rival factions—Egba, Ijebu, Ijesha, and Oyo—were forced into intimate, crowded cohabitation. Stripped of their specific geography, these families intermarried and bore children. The old, fierce tribal rivalries melted away in the shared experience of survival, crystallizing into a unified coastal, metropolitan identity.
* **The Badagry Borderlands:** Along the western corridors, the relentless pressure of Dahomean raids created a highly resilient, bilingual population. Here, Popo (Ogu) and Yoruba lineages mixed constantly through capture and assimilation, creating fluid communities that defied rigid ethnic categorizations.
* **The Return of the Diaspora:** The tapestry gained its final, intricate layers in the 19th century with the arrival of the Saro (Sierra Leonean) and Aguda (Brazilian and Cuban) freedmen. Ironically, these returning Creoles and Free People of Color intermarried with the local population, blending their elite status with the bloodlines of those who had survived domestic captivity on the continent.

--
Pure fiction written here in US by someone reading books and has no first-hand knowledge of Nigeria. Or someone deliberately making things up. Lagos became important with arrival of outsiders because it was close to the sea, and everything you written relates to that arrival.

See how in US you talk about whose ancestor was born free or slave, ever wonder why there is no such talk in Nigeria? Because everyone was born free! Nobody's ancestors were slaves! Think about it, all the captured people who were returned to Nigeria at end of slave trade (but not slavery) nobody enslaved them. Ever wonder why? Because it was not in our culture to enslave people and many of them went on to become pillars of society.
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by Secretbloodline: 3:19am On Jul 26
DiarisGodoo:
Pure fiction written here in US by someone reading books and has no first-hand knowledge of Nigeria. Or someone deliberately making things up. Lagos became important with arrival of outsiders because it was close to the sea, and everything you written relates to that arrival.

See how in US you talk about whose ancestor was born free or slave, ever wonder why there is no such talk in Nigeria? Because everyone was born free! Nobody's ancestors were slaves! Think about it, all the captured people who were returned to Nigeria at end of slave trade (but not slavery) nobody enslaved them. Ever wonder why? Because it was not in our culture to enslave people and many of them went on to become pillars of society.
You love to lie. grin Even without the oath you would still be a liar.

Millions of African people transported across the Atlantic to the United States, the Caribbean, Columbia, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico and God knows where else they ended. Many ended up in the sea food for sharks that followed the slave ships. The Africans kept more slaves than they sold so there were many of your ancestors that were slave caste. Unless you can prove other wise I assume it's true because denial comes with dishonesty. Silence is complicity. Slavery was celebrated in Lagos. Slavery still goes on in Cameroon and other places in West Africa. Do you want me to pull up those news stories?


Spiritual Envy of Creoles because we stood for freedom and autonomy. We are the descendants of Mediterranean Middle Eastern men by Y DNA scientific fact and documented genealogy, we are not White men Anglos or African men sons. We bought slaves and set them free, married your women and created Free People of Color Communities, the only beacons of freedom in the New World besides some Indigenous People that lived free. Everywhere else Slavery was the norm. Arabs performed more manumission through Islam than Sub Saharan Africans who branded people slave caste for life. I know the truth and y'all 100 percent must take accountability. Don't drag my people into Blackness for we only served Christ. It's documented fact.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 4:10am On Jul 26
QuinQQ:
Do you see me mention the mother anywhere? Has nothing to do with the mother. The focus should be on the teenager and his upbringing to maturity not on the mother or DNA
delulu cool
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 10:29am On Jul 26
CanadaOrBust:
Aren't we now delving into something else altogether?
Biblical 666 comes to mind
666 was about putting marks on people. Nobody is talking about that. This is about intentionally selecting the best genes humanity has and distributing the resilting babies. People can still have their own biological children if they wish
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 10:30am On Jul 26
DiarisGodoo:
Maybe the poor black woman who was raped to produce his ancestor was not from Africa. Just saying. Not every black person is from Africa.
And it was all a big secret, hence Secretbloodline grin
; grin grin grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op):
Secretbloodline:
My mother's lineage isn't West Africa. My forefathers were never slaves. My forefathers came from French people of color of the house of Burbourn. Many Creole people can from free born people and they freed your people that were sold into slavery by their own kind. I can throw a stone in Lagos a hit a 1000 Black people that there ancestors were slaves during the Pre Colonial period. Just because your ancestors wasn't put on a boat doesn't mean that they wasn't slaves in a land were Slavery was celebrated. How many of your slave ancestors were raped by men of other tribes in slave raids or taken advantage of by her slave owners. You desire to put all Creoles into the category of raped slave cities but truly it is more true about some of you than it is Creoles. grin
In 2026 he's still telling same old lies that were told way back when and totally discredited. See underlined below.
Also, you have a totally warped sense of traditional Nigeria before arrival of outside people.
"Until the lion learns to write, the hunter will always be the hero of the story"

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op):
Secretbloodline:
### Echoes of Èkó: War, Bloodlines, and the Crucible of Modern Lagos

To look upon the glittering, kinetic expanse of modern Lagos is to witness a masterpiece of human convergence. Yet, beneath the vibrant rhythms of Nigeria’s economic heartbeat lies a foundation forged in the alchemist's fire of pre-colonial empires. Long before it was a global mega-city, Lagos—then known as Èkó—was a strategic prize, a coastal theater where the Kingdom of Benin, the Oyo Empire, and the fierce militarism of Dahomey vied for dominance.

In this era of shifting borders, captivity was the raw currency of power. Dominant regional empires systematically subjugated local sub-ethnic groups—the indigenous Awori, the coastal Popo (Egun), and the inland Ijebu and Egba. The stories of these ancestors are woven directly into the biological tapestry of the people who walk the streets of Lagos today.

---

### The Gendered Shadow of Captivity: Systemic Violence and Sovereignty

History often records the movements of armies and the exchange of crowns, but the truest, most intimate ledger of pre-colonial warfare was written on the bodies of captive women. While male prisoners of war were frequently routed toward grueling agricultural labor, ritual sacrifice, or the devastating currents of the transatlantic trade, female captives faced a distinct, highly gendered form of systemic vulnerability.

Within the grand compounds of wealthy warlords and the sprawling palaces (Afin) of regional kings, these women were integrated as domestic concubines through what can only be described as a normalized infrastructure of structural rape.

* **The Erasure of Customary Protections:** In traditional West African societies, a legitimate marriage required the payment of a bride price (Owo Ori) to the woman's family. This exchange was not merely financial; it was a sacred legal contract that bound a woman’s birth family to her defense. Because captive women were violently severed from their kin, masters could access them sexually without paying a bride price. This stripped them of all traditional human rights, leaving them with no kinship shield against physical, psychological, or sexual abuse.
* **Reproductive Exploitation:** This sexual violence was highly strategic. The children born of these forced unions were vital to the expansion of a master’s household, inflating both his domestic agricultural workforce and his future military ranks.

THE CRUCIBLE OF LAGOASIAN IDENTITY

[ Benin Aristocracy ] [ Indigenous Awori ]
│ │
└──────────────┬───────────────┘
▼
[ BENIN-AWORI MIXTURE ]
(Modern Lagos Ruling Class)
│
├◄─── [ Hinterland Refugees ] (Egba / Ijebu)
│
├◄─── [ Transatlantic Returnees ] (Saro / Aguda)
▼
【 MODERN LAGOSIAN LINEAGE 】

---

### The Distinct Plight: Captive Women vs. Atlantic Creoles

To truly understand the profound trauma of the pre-colonial African slave caste, their plight must be distinguished from that of Free People of Color or Atlantic Creoles.

Across the Atlantic world—from Paris and New Orleans to Sierra Leone and the trading ports of the West African coast—Creoles and Free People of Color occupied a unique, privileged middle tier. Many were born free, descended from European traders and local African elite women. They possessed wealth, formal literacy, international networks, and legal recognition. They were active agents in commerce, often acting as the very brokers who negotiated the sale of captives.

In stark contrast, the internal captive women of the Lagos hinterlands possessed no such mobility. Their reality was one of absolute, unmediated subjugation. They could not appeal to colonial courts, invoke international trade laws, or rely on mercantile wealth to buy their freedom. While a Creole woman might navigate high society with a degree of bodily autonomy and social prestige, a captive woman in a warlord's compound was legally classified as an object.

Her identity was systematically erased, her labor was entirely uncompensated, and her womb was treated as a tool of state-building for the very empire that had slaughtered her original family.

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### The Alchemical Blend: How War Rewrote the Tribal Map

As the 18th and 19th centuries progressed, the geopolitical landscape of the Yoruba hinterland fractured, sending shockwaves down to the Lagos lagoon. The collapse of the Oyo Empire sparked decades of devastating civil wars, setting off a massive migration of displaced peoples and captured souls. This chaotic displacement effectively acted as a historical crucible, blending distinct tribal identities into something entirely new.

* **The Benin-Awori Synthesis:** When the forces of the Oba of Benin secured Èkó in the 16th century, soldiers and nobles settled among the indigenous Awori. Through centuries of forced concubinage and political intermarriage with Awori women, a distinct ruling elite emerged. This explains why the modern traditional aristocracy of Lagos—the Oba and his White Cap Chiefs—retain Benin court customs, royal attire, and titles to this day, even while speaking the Yoruba language.
* **The Fusion of the Estate Communities:** In the vast agricultural plantations (Rinji) and transit camps surrounding the lagoon, captives from rival factions—Egba, Ijebu, Ijesha, and Oyo—were forced into intimate, crowded cohabitation. Stripped of their specific geography, these families intermarried and bore children. The old, fierce tribal rivalries melted away in the shared experience of survival, crystallizing into a unified coastal, metropolitan identity.
* **The Badagry Borderlands:** Along the western corridors, the relentless pressure of Dahomean raids created a highly resilient, bilingual population. Here, Popo (Ogu) and Yoruba lineages mixed constantly through capture and assimilation, creating fluid communities that defied rigid ethnic categorizations.
* **The Return of the Diaspora:** The tapestry gained its final, intricate layers in the 19th century with the arrival of the Saro (Sierra Leonean) and Aguda (Brazilian and Cuban) freedmen. Ironically, these returning Creoles and Free People of Color intermarried with the local population, blending their elite status with the bloodlines of those who had survived domestic captivity on the continent.

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Unfortunately for the liars and twisters of history, through oral tradition and direct experience we now know the approximate truth, we now know they totally manufactured narratives to hide or justify their extreme devilishness and soulless inhumanity.
My friend, your African female ancestor was RAPED (coercive sex is still rape) by soulless enslavers. That's how you came about. Your ridiculous lies impresses exactly nobody.

Your warped view of precolonial Nigeria is not accidental. It was deliberately planted to justify rape of your mothers and how lucky they were!

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 11:17am On Jul 26
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if to say i be white man with u working on my cotton farm, I for been d deposit for ur bank steady too grin
Of course. That's how Secretbloodline ancestors came about and he just can't make peace with it. He has to manufacture "tan people from Europe"!😅
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 11:23am On Jul 26
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imagine u in d late 1800s working on my father's cotton field. cool
The crimes that were committed were unimaginable. Which is probably why Secretbloodline is so messed up and caught in a bloodline loop - his punishment for having some of his DNA come from soulless rapist enslavers!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by Secretbloodline: 12:00pm On Jul 26
QuinQQ:
In 2026 he's still telling same old lies that were told way back when and totally discredited. See underlined below.
Also, you have a totally warped sense of traditional Nigeria before arrival of outsiders.
"Until the lion learns to write, the hunter will always be the hero of the story"
### Confronting the Shadows of Prestige: A Re-examination of the Igbo Slave Trade

History is rarely a neat tapestry of heroes and villains. More often, it is an intricate web of human ambition, cultural blind spots, and uncomfortable truths. This complexity is precisely what Nigerian journalist Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani brought to light when she courageously opened her family archives to reveal the life of her great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku—a man of immense stature, cultural reverence, and a prolific trader of human beings.

In the late 19th century, within the hinterlands of southeastern Nigeria, the acquisition of human cargo was not viewed through the lens of modern moral tragedy. Instead, it was treated as the ultimate metric of power. When a trader successfully captured or sold a captive, it was treated not with shame, but as a triumph of the highest order. Local praise singers would weave the trader’s exploits into song, celebrating his cunning and strength much like they would a warrior returning from a victorious battle, a wrestler who conquered the arena, or a hunter who felled a lion.

> "In that era, human trafficking brought immense riches, which funded grand community feasts and elevated family legacies."

While the specific mechanics of these transactions relied on agents and networks spanning from the interior to coastal ports like Calabar and Bonny, the cultural landscape surrounding it was steeped in local tradition. Major business successes and celebrations of status in Igbo society were inherently communal events. They were marked by the rhythmic pulse of traditional music, the gathering of elders, and the sharing of palm wine. The wealth generated from this trade did more than just line pockets; it purchased European luxury imports, funded elaborate title-taking ceremonies, and cemented a family’s aristocracy under the administrative gaze of the British Royal Niger Company.

Yet, this prestige carried a devastating human cost. Those who were not marched to the coast to fill the hulls of ships bound for Brazil or Cuba remained as domestic laborers—or worse, became ultimate status symbols, sacrificed at religious rituals or buried alive to serve their masters in the afterlife.

By pulling back the curtain on how effortlessly cruelty can be wrapped in the garments of cultural celebration, Nwaubani’s reflections force a vital dialogue. They remind us that history must be examined with an unyielding gaze, recognizing that the systems we celebrate today may become the reckonings of tomorrow.

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