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| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by mmsen: 12:18pm On Aug 03*. Modified: 12:48pm On Aug 07 |
ProfGday:This is completely untrue. I get it, you're happy in your new home but some of you overdo it with the lies. There are class systems in place and entrenched prejudices that you clearly have no clue about. Many jobs do depend upon referrals and prior relationships. The idea that you can be anything you want to be in the West is childlike dishonesty. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Goldbw122(m): 12:31pm On Aug 03 |
uche87:I don't know why I always seem to run into scammers. It's really frustrating. For now, I'll just put my travel plans on hold. I don't want to ruin myself because of traveling. When I find the right connection and the right opportunity, I'll do what needs to be done. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Love800(m): 12:51pm On Aug 03 |
This is one of the best comments i have read for a while now. In reality you are also saying that one should not follow the crowd sometimes. Try and experience urself. rapcy: |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Love800(m): 12:54pm On Aug 03 |
What jobs can one do there? FineUsername: |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Love800(m): 12:56pm On Aug 03 |
Why do you like the uk? And why is wrong with european countries? fykes: |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Love800(m): 1:03pm On Aug 03 |
But you will come back to nigeria to retire(old age)? A sincere question. BabaAgba79: |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Goinhard: 1:27pm On Aug 03 |
Goldbw122:Do it yourself brr. You don't need agents |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Jman06(m): 1:44pm On Aug 03 |
mmsen:For your info, I didn't say she sends money to me. What I said is that she makes some investments back home and that when we make general family contributions to solve a family needs, she contributes generously unlike before. Mind you, she's not under any debts because she was sponsored by our family such that she didn't have to borrow money for her schooling. I understand the fact that cost of living is high over there in the UK but any little pounds sent to Nigeria from UK becomes a large sum in our currency and that's why many of them in the UK still make investments in Nigeria regardless how hard things are over there. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by mmsen: 1:49pm On Aug 03 |
Jman06:Her schooling is one thing, her accommodation, transport and the daily expenses of living in the UK are something else. From what I've seen over probably thousands of cases, besides those connected to politicos, what the people come with from Nigeria (amongst other places) isn't close to being enough and that puts those people in danger of horrible exploitation from both ends. From those in their home country looking for them to send them money and from people in the UK looking to use them for cheap, often illegal, labor. The pandemic exposed the fallacies that some of you are trying to project about this "japa" business that you have turned into a right of passage. Africans and Asians were more likely to die in the UK during the pandemic because of their worse living and working conditions. That has not changed. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Love800(m): 1:50pm On Aug 03 |
What do you mean by care job? And what do you mean by rose in ladder? MatrixCircle: |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by mmsen: 1:52pm On Aug 03 |
Love800:She means professional nyash cleaner. They went from cleaning nyash to telling others to clean nyash. ![]() |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by fykes(m): 1:56pm On Aug 03 |
Love800:First, i have lived here in the last 4 years. The most basic thing about living here is the respect for human live, the adherence to basic principles of decency and the fact that you can actually make plans, follow it through and without much external and or environmental influences achiebe your plans. Is it perfect, far from it, is it best fit for everyone, far from it. But its orderly and coming from the sort of chaos naija is, you can gather yourself. Again, almost all indigenes of other european countries are here in the UK, working and planning to acquire british stay. Make of that, whatever you will. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by fykes(m): 2:02pm On Aug 03 |
mmsen:This here is the worst form of ignorance. Not knowing and not knowing that you dont know |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by opera1(m): 2:39pm On Aug 03 |
fykes:Can 30m take me and my wife there [UK] |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by fykes(m): 3:30pm On Aug 03 |
opera1:Previously it could. I didnt have a quarter of that when i relocated. Dont really know about now. Do some research. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by jedisco(m): 3:30pm On Aug 03 |
Tickles001:Why would you say this? Do you know that both of them being together and working could be a huge advantage? |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by jedisco(m): 3:34pm On Aug 03 |
RaptorX:Did you bother to verify what you said before chorusing talking points of racists? Within the western anglosphere, UK would have about the least migrants. Their percentage of foreign born nationals can't be compared to Canada, U.S. or Australia |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by jedisco(m): 3:44pm On Aug 03 |
MatrixCircle:Congrats. Why are you converting the chunk of your savings to naira? Using investment or pension accounts in the UK may be more beneficial longterm. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Love800(m): 4:50pm On Aug 03 |
Lol. So its a branded name! I appreciate. mmsen: |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Tickles001(m): 6:13pm On Aug 03 |
Kaybaba5:If a man is still solely dependent on his wife for warmth and companionship, just like a baby depends on the mother for suckle. Then he's not yet a man and is doomed to burnt by a woman's ruthlessness. A grown man should be fine and unbothered when separated from his wife. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Tickles001(m): 6:16pm On Aug 03 |
amazonguru001:It's not about money. It's about saving himself of the heart ache. There's nothing special to enjoy in your partner that you can't enjoy with someone else. The marriage would even survive better that way. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Tickles001(m): 6:18pm On Aug 03 |
armadeo:2yrs is too soon. 7yrs will allow the gap to settle and narrow the rebel window. Abroad equips women with the capability to be as cruel as they have always wished to, and they never skip that opportunity. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Tickles001(m): 6:20pm On Aug 03 |
jedisco:The disadvantage far outweighs the advantage, and there's a 90% chance he wouldn't get to enjoy any such advantages, before the woman turns everything upside down. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by jedisco(m): 7:58pm On Aug 03 |
Tickles001:Hehe.. Nairaland and ignorance About every successful Nigeria man I know who migrated from Nigeria is married to and lives with their Nigerian wife. I equally know loads of Nigerian women upholding their family. Some were the main sponsors, some got sponsored when their husband lost his visa e.t.c. Yes, some families struggle (as is the case in every nation) but fact remains most successful Nigerians in the west are married to Nigerians. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Dotherightthing: 8:39pm On Aug 03 |
Most successful Nigerians are still in Nigeria ![]()
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| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Davidonkonsults: 9:23pm On Aug 03 |
SamuraiXXX:Go ask your grandfather. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Tickles001(m): 9:42pm On Aug 03 |
jedisco:Because of a few samples of cases you've seen makes you believe nairalanders are ignorant. Says a lot about you and your level of claimed knowledge. Take it from me that if we're to arrange nairalanders according to how knowledgeable, me and you may not be found in the top half. Don't be too carried with the little you know. I don't know how many cases you've actually witnessed, but I've witnessed a lot of cases too. Most of my childhood friends are in the UK and they usually confide in me about their ordeals over there. 80% of them had it hot with the woman they married and brought over there and they was no benefits worth it for them. I'm not even talking about the stories that fly around the media because I believe some are just content. I'm quoting the ones I was involved in and other stories they told me about other happenings. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by mmsen: 9:56pm On Aug 03 |
Tickles001:Marriage in the west is a powder keg no matter where your wife is from. Most of the issues stem from financial instability, it's the primary cause for divorce. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by mmsen: 9:59pm On Aug 03 |
Tickles001:It sounds like you're saying a man should not marry. If there is no mutual benefit, if the man gains nothing when then would he marry? |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Tickles001(m): 10:29pm On Aug 03 |
mmsen:No. I'm not against marriage, but a man being so dependent and attached to the wife like a suckling is a recipe for bad treatment. And that's what I discourage. A man should marry to bear kids in a complete home and have a woman who will take care of the home and the children at infancy. Not to gum body with the woman and build your whole life enjoyment around her. He should be able to live and enjoy life regardless if his wife is with him or not. A wife is just a dedicated accessory to your life, nothing more. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by Tickles001(m): 10:35pm On Aug 03 |
mmsen:No. Most of the problem stem from exposure and power imbalance. The West hands women unlimited power and women are not good when equipped to do whatever they want. Whatever they will want to do with that power will be mostly driven by cruelty. Whenever there's power imbalance and women get on top, they treat every lower person badly. Especially their husband. No matter where she's from or lives, the same outcome is observed once she's handed power that allows her to misbehave with minimal or no consequences. |
| Re: The Untold Side Of Japa: Why The UK Still Changes Lives by 360who: 2:18am On Aug 04 |
justwise:You will never know much about a place until you've lived in it. |
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