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QuinQ:
First of all you use AI more than me. I THINK! That's what I'm good at. I'm NOT good at regurgitation.

I already answered this. I asked you, how do you know anything? We don't know anything finally. It is either something is logical or it is not.
It is logical that whatever caused the Big Bang is outside the Big Bang!

Bro I am not the one always quoting AI summaries and putting AI screenshots that's you. Meanwhile you still didn't answer the question. What you are good at is dodging.

Logic is not knowledge. Logic is used to maintain consistency.

There is no outside to the universe so your answer is not logical.

QuinQ:
You are confusing time with movement. You're saying time does not exist if there is no movement, and that's not true. Time can exist as a background dimension—a geometric grid—regardless of whether matter or energy is actively moving or not.
There's also possibility of a "block universe" where the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously. In this framework, the universe is a static, unchanging geometric structure, and time serves as the framework connecting these frozen events rather than a "ticking" clock!

Not necessarily movement but change. If there is no progression of events, then there is no change therefore, no time. This is similar to saying that a world with no length, width, or depth has no space.

Time existing as a background dimension still doesn't help your position because now you're either creating another spacetime continuum and the can further down the road or postulating, without evidence, that time and space can exist independently.

Block universe theory implies determinism, which is its own can of worms. That said, it also contradicts your position because it implies that the universe had no beginning which makes the need for a first cause irrelevant.

LordReed:
Bro I am not the one always quoting AI summaries and putting AI screenshots that's you. Meanwhile you still didn't answer the question. What you are good at is dodging.

Logic is not knowledge. Logic is used to maintain consistency.

There is no outside to the universe so your answer is not logical.

I already told you, I use Google to show you that MY already arrived-at conclusion also has support!

Once again, we can only say what makes sense to a human being, what is logical. We can't say what is finally true. For example, it doesn't make sense that the Big Bang caused itself from nothing. Therefore the logical thing is that there was something before that

CoolUsername:
Not necessarily movement but change. If there is no progression of events, then there is no change therefore, no time. This is similar to saying that a world with no length, width, or depth has no space.

Time existing as a background dimension still doesn't help your position because now you're either creating another spacetime continuum and the can further down the road or postulating, without evidence, that time and space can exist independently.

Block universe theory implies determinism, which is its own can of worms. That said, it also contradicts your position because it implies that the universe had no beginning which makes the need for a first cause irrelevant.

It is actually the opposite. The time that u tie to change is an illusion. So is spacetime. The only time that exists and that will always exist is now. There is no past or future - everything is contained in now. It is not like space that cannot exist without measurement!

QuinQ:
I already told you, I use Google to show you that MY already arrived-at conclusion also has support!

Once again, we can only say what makes sense to a human being, what is logical. We can't say what is finally true. For example, it doesn't make sense that the Big Bang caused itself from nothing. Therefore the logical thing is that there was something before that

Please answer the question and stop dodging. Ask AI if there is an outside to the universe and come post the answer here to support your claim as you said.

Logic is not about what makes sense to a human being, it is about what is consistent with reality.

Nobody said the big bang came from nothing, so you are just strawmanning here.

QuinQ:
Are we now in elementary school? Energy can change but is never destroyed

So your god changes then?

QuinQ:
See question. HOW do you yourself know anything? Certain things make logical sense. It DOES NOT make logical sense that the universe has always existed - which is your position!

Bro stop dodging the question. You are becoming an artful dodger. LoLz.

HOW do you KNOW. Logic is not knowledge.

QuinQ:
It is actually the opposite. The time that u tie to change is an illusion. So is spacetime. The only time that exists and that will always exist is now. There is no past or future - everything is contained in now. It is not like space that cannot exist without measurement!

Here we go, The retreat into solipsism. You guys can't help yourselves. Wherever a theist gets cornered on fundamentals of the universe they retreat into solipsism, the "universe is not real", "time doesn't exist", "energy doesn't exist". LoLz. SMH

DiarisGodoo:
The Torah specifically says not to marry cousins. That's probably what Igbos follow.
Also, please don't be comparing Creoles and Igbos. Creoles are a made-up modern people. Igbos are ancient.

We are Mediterranean people and we have always been around. Let's not compare, that's seems to your issue always comparing yourself to others. It's called Envy. Especially when it always includes defaming Creoles. Our ancestors are the Franks that built Europe. My de France family originated in Champagne, France home of the Knights Templar. We are actual Knights Templar descendants. We have roots back to the holy land before Christ even back to King David. Queen Mary Magdalene is buried in France and thousands visit her tomb every year. You've finally meet a legitimate Creole who knows our history just like Mr. Peter Edochie is an Igbo historian so am I of Creole history.

LordReed:
Bro I am not the one always quoting AI summaries and putting AI screenshots that's you. Meanwhile you still didn't answer the question. What you are good at is dodging.

Logic is not knowledge. Logic is used to maintain consistency.

There is no outside to the universe so your answer is not logical.

Leave my QuinQQ delulu darling alone.

LordReed:
How can it be beyond and yet act in time? That is an incoherent position. Time is a measure of change. How did it do anything if there was no change aka no time?

For you, Time exist the moment you were born. Then what happens when you are no more? Does the change stop or does it continue?

LordReed:
Please answer the question and stop dodging. Ask AI if there is an outside to the universe and come post the answer here to support your claim as you said.

Logic is not about what makes sense to a human being, it is about what is consistent with reality.

Nobody said the big bang came from nothing, so you are just strawmanning here.

If the big bang did not come from nothing, it means there is something beyond the big bang. Right?
It is not everything I confirm to you with AI. You ought know intuitively that there is something beyond Big Bang. Infact there could be a multiverse.

LordReed:
So your god changes then?

God is the unchanging source of changeable energy and all there is

LordReed:
Bro stop dodging the question. You are becoming an artful dodger. LoLz.

HOW do you KNOW. Logic is not knowledge.

You were already asked how do YOU yourself know anything. Descartes only knew he existed - that's it, nothing else! Do you know better than Descartes?

DMCA:
Leave my QuinQQ delulu darling alone.

Yaba Left, notice how I'm beating LordReed black and blue with pure logic. He'd later claim he didn't lose. Just follow

RealityKings1:
For you, Time exist the moment you were born. Then what happens when you are no more? Does the change stop or does it continue?

Thank you! LordReed over to you

QuinQ:
Yaba Left, notice how I'm beating LordReed black and blue with pure logic. He'd later claim he didn't lose. Just follow

LoLz. Bro you are floundering. Is this how you make yourself feel better? Bwahahahahahahaha!

QuinQ:
You were already asked how do YOU yourself know anything. Descartes only knew he existed - that's it, nothing else! Do you know better than Descartes?

Bro you can't ask a question as answer to a question. I am not asking how you know things in general I am asking HOW you KNOW that it is a god living in a timeless, spaceless locus.

QuinQ:
God is the unchanging source of changeable energy and all there is

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahha! BRO! YOU claimed that energy is the essence of your god. How is the essense of your god changing and the god remains unchanged?? Is this logical to you??

Meanwhile lemme destroy this talking point. Does your god have thoughts? Was there a point in when he decided to make anything? Answer o don't dodge. LoLz.

Royaldescent:
We are Mediterranean people and we have always been around. Let's not compare, that's seems to your issue always comparing yourself to others. It's called Envy. Especially when it always includes defaming Creoles. Our ancestors are the Franks that built Europe. My de France family originated in Champagne, France home of the Knights Templar. We are actual Knights Templar descendants. We have roots back to the holy land before Christ even back to King David. Queen Mary Magdalene is buried in France and thousands visit her tomb every year. You've finally meet a legitimate Creole who knows our history just like Mr. Peter Edochie is an Igbo historian so am I of Creole history.

Don't forget I'm in Louisiana. Younger Creoles are fully integrated into the African American community, yet fully aware of their Creole Heritage. They're not obsessed with France like you. Comparing Louisiana Creoles with Igbos is like comparing America with England. One is new and shallow, the other is ancient and deep. You have European and African ancestry but your hometown, the gtound that is yours, is Louisiana.

QuinQ:
If the big bang did not come from nothing, it means there is something beyond the big bang. Right?
It is not everything I confirm to you with AI. You ought know intuitively that there is something beyond Big Bang. Infact there could be a multiverse.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Bro the universe is ALL that is. There can be no outside. ALL means ALL.

Your god exists nowhere (spaceless) and at no time (timeless), your god doesn't exist at all. LoLz.

RealityKings1:
For you, Time exist the moment you were born. Then what happens when you are no more? Does the change stop or does it continue?

How does this answer the questions I posed to you?

The questions again: How can it be beyond and yet act in time? That is an incoherent position. Time is a measure of change. How did it do anything if there was no change aka no time?

LordReed:
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahha! BRO! YOU claimed that energy is the essence of your god. How is the essense of your god changing and the god remains unchanged?? Is this logical to you??

Meanwhile lemme destroy this talking point. Does your god have thoughts? Was there a point in when he decided to make anything? Answer o don't dodge. LoLz.

This is beyond ridiculous. You are asking these kind of questions about God that exists outside everything you know! Why not ask if he brushes his teeth?

God is way beyond anything you can conceive of

DMCA:
Leave my QuinQQ delulu darling alone.

QuinQ is getting a lesson in reasoning. LoLz.

QuinQ:
This is beyond ridiculous. You are asking these kind of questions about God that exists outside everything you know! Why not ask if he brushes his teeth?

God is way beyond anything you can conceive of

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Bro answer the question and stop dodging. Are you not the one claiming you know the god exists? LoLz.

Bro your responses are so weak. I expected better from someone who claimed to defeat me.

QuinQ:
I've read the excerpt and will read it again. Not bad. Is it possible to get it free online? Kobojunkie what you think?

I don't think you can get it for free. It is not old enough yet. I think it has to be published before 1923 or so. I will post some more excerpts if you folks wish.

DiarisGodoo:
Don't forget I'm in Louisiana. Younger Creoles are fully integrated into the African American community, yet fully aware of their Creole Heritage. They're not obsessed with France like you. Comparing Louisiana Creoles with Igbos is like comparing America with England. One is new and shallow, the other is ancient and deep. You have European and African ancestry but your hometown, the gtound that is yours, is Louisiana.

You're a liar under oath to Prince Hall. Just like your forefathers who sold their own people to the British they took alliances with and so do you.

LordReed:
QuinQ is getting a lesson in reasoning. LoLz.

Here are the qualities of God below. Ask your questions framed by these attributes and we will see who is getting a lesson in reasoning:

Outside time and space: God is immaterial and exists outside our reality, outside time and space.
Omnipotent: God is all-powerful and has total control over the universe.
Omniscient: God knows everything—past, present, and future.
Omnipresent: God is fully present everywhere at all times.
Eternal: God has no beginning and no end.
Immutable: God never changes in His character or purpose.

Royaldescent:
You're a liar under oath to Prince Hall. Just like your forefathers who sold their own people to the British they took alliances with and so do you.

Let me put it another way, I am in America but I know my hometown, our customs and traditions, where my forefathers are buried, the ground my people occupy, our shared connections, how we are rooted, etc. See, you only have such a tie to Louisiana. You have European and African ancestry but you know nothing of those places or their ways. You know Louisiana, that's your hometown, that's where you're from, not Paris or Lagos.

DiarisGodoo:
I don't think you can get it for free. It is not old enough yet. I think it has to be published before 1923 or so. I will post some more excerpts if you folks wish.

Thanks for the ones you posted but please don't post anymore excerpts please. If we want books we go get them. Thanks

QuinQ:
Here are the qualities of God below. Ask your questions framed by these attributes and we will see who is getting a lesson in reasoning:

Outside time and space: God is immaterial and exists outside our reality, outside time and space.
Omnipotent: God is all-powerful and has total control over the universe.
Omniscient: God knows everything—past, present, and future.
Omnipresent: God is fully present everywhere at all times.
Eternal: God has no beginning and no end.
Immutable: God never changes in His character or purpose.

It was the same you who claimed energy is the essence of the god wasn't it?

QuinQ:
Thanks for the ones you posted but please don't post anymore excerpts please. If we want books we go get them. Thanks

Ok already. I get the hint
You probably want me to delete the ones I posted😅