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Yemmysworld91:
You don't seems to understand the topic sef as I already answered the question up there. I'm surprised you didn't get it.
He came to deliver us from the law. Example of such law is not working on sabbath day. Jesus nullified such action with the sabbath day healing. Man is not made for the law. He made the disciples break other laws eh washing of hands before eating, building relationships with the gentiles etc.
Christianity is a modification of Judaism and that's why we have less Jews who are Christians.

Shalom

So also is tithing. Tithing is part of the law. Dont be a hypocrite

For me, Tithing can be encouraged by the Church but it should not be used to manipulate members especially as to the consequence of not a tither. At this stage of my life, I see tithing as a personal choice and I will encourage anyone that wants to tithe to make sure they hear from the Lord first so that their money won't be a wasted effort. I used to tithe in the past, but what I realized is that I was instead experiencing the opposite of what was promised in the bible cos I listened to Man and not God. Tithing will never protect you from attacks except God instructs you to, so be wise about it and don't let some people lead you into an unprofitable venture. I used to be about tithing in the past, but today I am wiser.

Today's message in Church was about Tithe, and the message brought back bad memories rather than a promised assurance of blessings or calm. I don't think I will ever tithe again and no one can tell me to except God drops an instruction into my heart to start tithing again. For me, tithing has never protected me from job loss, setbacks and all that.

So I can only tell people to be wise.

ajailer:
For me, Tithing can be encouraged by the Church but it should not be used to manipulate members especially as to the consequence of not a tither. At this stage of my life, I see tithing as a personal choice and I will encourage anyone that wants to tithe to make sure they hear from the Lord first so that their money won't be a wasted effort. I used to tithe in the past, but what I realized is that I was instead experiencing the opposite of what was promised in the bible cos I listened to Man and not God. Tithing will never protect you from attacks except God instructs you to, so be wise about it and don't let some people lead you into an unprofitable venture. I used to be about tithing in the past, but today I am wiser.

Today's message in Church was about Tithe, and the message brought back bad memories rather than a promised assurance of blessings or calm. I don't think I will ever tithe again and no one can tell me to except God drops an instruction into my heart to start tithing again. For me, tithing has never protected me from job loss, setbacks and all that.

So I can only tell people to be wise.

Tithing is not tithing for tithing sake , it’s a covenant! Your explanation sounds more like a narrative, so all the tithe you have paid, you were forced to pay like , na your pastor Cajoled you .. tithe is a covenant, “God if you can do this for me , I’ll give you tithe” test him, and when you get what you want , Oya now falter and start looking for conforming or convenient lies. Or pay with grudges that if not for pastor…. tithe is intentional so if e no come from your mind you will never see the benefit

God will grant the grace to be a regular tither

To open our eyes to the truth and in spirit , Abraham was the first to pay tithe to Melchizedek king of Salem , priest of the most high with no father or mother or genealogy , without beginning of days or end of time In GENESIS.. so are you just arguing or you know ? according to the Bible , even when Jesus was crucified, it was said that he’s now risen and in the order of Melchizedek , priest of the most high in the New Testament but there was no law then when Abraham paid tithe , even Moses was not born who created the laws .. so how can you say tithing is wrong? Who told Abraham to pay tithe to Melchizedek? One of the secrets of the Bible that is plain but the carnal man refused to accept..

PS: that doesn’t mean you should be a fool for tithing , I wanted to pay tithe a few days ago and I split it among men of God that I know , it’s me and God , because he did what I asked for and I made a pledge, so I go pay who say na him work dem wan dey do. I no fit give carpenter… so the punishment of how they use it is not in me but since they say na Gods work, we sef God use them to pay tithe.. our covenant is with God and we have fulfilled it. That’s why I no Dey give one person , I go split am but God knows I’ve fufiled my pledge, na pray all of dem go dey pray for you but God knows you no whine am, I’ve walked into random churches and it goes on but .. as child of God you must have sense also . Remain blessed

Uchesis:
The same way Christ and his disciples did not marry or have a child but all of us must marry and born children


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dis ur half baked reasoning e get as e be.
who say person must marry?
u d read wetin u type before u hit reply button so?

Tithe is used for church development and furnishing, so it's not bad to support your church.

But the dubious way of going about it is not good enough, some may say you won't enter the kingdom of God if you don't pay tithe, which is wrong. (Manipulations)

Tithe collection is the biggest source of income for the church, and it's used to expand churches, buy the instruments and all.
So let the pastors just come out straight.
If the spirit of God is there, you shouldn't worry,
but if not, it's gone.
That's why it's imperative to discern and choose where to worship.
It's a good thing to support the church development.

deetin:
It’s better to be spiritual than religious, some people are naturally stingy and they are defending not tithing because they don’t want to spare .

The truth is , Abraham paid tithe , Cain killed Abel because of tithe, so as a spiritual man they will not force you to tithe, if you are a Christian you can use tithe to connect with God , as those men in the Bible did.. they won’t force you , it’s not by force like some pastors are relying on it that you must pay .. but if you decide to do it , you are doing it for God that provide the money or whatever it is for you . 10% to him, the other 90 for you .. it’s a spiritual act that is not meaningful to the mortal man but if you will get the same result of people that have done it . So stop looking for comforting lies to justify your frugality . It’s not a sin if you don’t but once you know the secret, you will understand

Very correct

gohf:
Christ didn't change it because he didn't make nor give those laws. God who did, and He changed them.

Being like the Israelites in the wilderness is not a bad thing, it's because you have poor understanding of the way that you would presume such.

Is Christ not God?
Secondly, you obviously did not read that God wiped them out in the wilderness leaving only 3 to see and enter the promise

femi4:
They didn't teach on tithing too

2. Farming isn't the only profession in the Bible. Peter used to be a fisherman

See now you are dodging the question and then you moved post to claim that they did not teach tithing to reverse the burden of proof.

And did you see them teaching about false witnessing or about oppressing the stranger or about in sex? Does it mean that you should do those things since they didn't teach them?

You don't have any reasonable counter to this tithe issue. Even in the Commandment God did not force anyone and Isreal itself did not obey God, so, it is not a surprise that you would be against it

And on your diversionary response did you not read that a fisherman is a Farmer who Farms fish? So, this is vain.

Abemy:
Those who insist on tithing must also insist on animal sacrifice. Christ couldn't have replaced just one and left others.

See you used replaced not abolished!

Christ replaced animal sacrifice with himself therefore removing the need for animal sacrifice. No where did he replace, remove or abolish tithing.

So tithing stands.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is Christ not God?
Secondly, you obviously did not read that God wiped them out in the wilderness leaving only 3 to see and enter the promise

wipe them out? As how? Who then did Joshua lead into Canaan land to conquer and share?

How can you ask is the anointed of God not God?

dofman:
Well all know the truth nah

If they born you well m, pay that title again 🤣🥷

Title abi kini depe nwi

dofman:
Well all know the truth nah

If they born you well , pay that title again 🤣🥷

Title abi kini depe nwi

gohf:
wipe them out? As how? Who then did Joshua lead into Canaan land to conquer and share?

How can you ask is the anointed of God not God?

Did you not see that it was their children who entered the promise and not their parents?

Answer my own question is Jesus not God?

Faithfulness and obedience to God's instruction, though mandatory but never forceful. Was Abraham forced to pay tithes. No. He did it wilfully AFTER God gave him victory and blessing.

Genesis 14:19-20
and he blessed Abram and said: “Blessed be Abram by God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth, and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand.” Then Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of everything.

A show of gratitude that pleased God and model God commanded the descendants of Abraham to follow. If you believe in the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob, why not?

In the denomination I attend, Celestial Church of Christ, that I have been attending for over 45 years. They follow suit and members are mandated by the Holy Spirit to do as well. I have been doing it as deemed fit and the results are astounding. I count my blessing day by day and thank God for what he has done. My good testimony that I will wish on others as well.

So for me, it is not optional and voluntary anymore but an absolute practice.

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see that it was their children who entered the promise and not their parents?

Answer my own question is Jesus not God?

first properly correct your self and answer the questions genuinely

By the way, no use changing it from Christ to Jesus or are you saying Jesus is not Christ?

gohf:
first properly correct your self and answer the questions genuinely

By the way, no use changing it from Christ to Jesus or are you saying Jesus is not Christ?

I asked you the questions first, so if truly you have any Truth and honesty you would have answered it but because you real eyes that you are wrong is why you are playing games and even pretending as if you do not know that Jesus is Christ, The LORD, whether He is called Jesus or Christ or Jesus Christ.

So, answer the question the question is Jesus not God? I expected all these dodgings because you raised a thread on this question and the thread shows that you gave no valid and reasonable reply after the facts of Jesus Godship was proved to you. So everyone sees and understands why you are dodging and commuting the fallacy of reversal of burden of proof and trying to raise trivialities of why I said only Jesus,

See how you are full of unholy spirits?

DMCA:
dis ur half baked reasoning e get as e be.
who say person must marry?
u d read wetin u type before u hit reply button so?

My guy, its like you just come from yankee.

You never hear person say "no wonder you never marry"

Rensheng:
See you used replaced not abolished!

Christ replaced animal sacrifice with himself therefore removing the need for animal sacrifice. No where did he replace, remove or abolish tithing.

So tithing stands.

Pastor, títhing is for Levites who were not allowed to work.

Stop being a lazy African and go and get some work doing instead of depending on other people's hard work and collecting tithes like a drug dealer shaking down their customers.

aswani:
Pastor, títhing is for Levites who were not allowed to work.

Stop being a lazy African and go and get some work doing instead of depending on other people's hard work and collecting tithes like a drug dealer shaking down their customers.

😁 So anyone who speaks up in support of tithe, is a pastor eh? What a joke!

Not all of us are like you oo, some of us speak up and support the truth even if it is unpopular not to talk of the fact that you couldn't rebut my assertion and it so pained you, you had to resort to ad hominem. What a sore 😪

Rensheng:
😁 So anyone who speaks up in support of tithe, is a pastor eh? What a joke!

Not all of us are like you oo, some of us speak up and support the truth even if it is unpopular not to talk of the fact that you couldn't rebut my assertion and it so pained you, you had to resort to ad hominem. What a sore 😪

It's not the truth, there are no Levites in Africa so tithes should not be handed to the lazy, entitled and arrogant Pastors who use the Bible to fleece people.

If you can't run a church off the goodwill of people, close it or don't run it. Stop coercing people to pay you, claiming tithes, when it is your own property and organisation.

God is watching you and yours.

aswani:
It's not the truth, there are no Levites in Africa so tithes should not be handed to the lazy, entitled and arrogant Pastors who use the Bible to fleece people.

If you can't run a church off the goodwill of people, close it or don't run it. Stop coercing people to pay you, claiming tithes, when it is your own property and organisation.

God is watching you and yours.

Off point and off topic!

The issue here is not who Tithe should be paid to but if Tithe has been abolished, which is what I addressed. So you are off topic!

However to even venture into your change of post, do you not read your bible? Do you not see that Tithe can be brought to the Place where God put his name and not to just Levites?

You are without excuse!

And it is you who are in disobedience of which no one is forcing you to obey but know this: it is you God is watching for I am in obedience so God watching me is what I live for and pray for.

You should be worried for yourself!

Rensheng:
Off point and off topic!

The issue here is not who Tithe should be paid to but if Tithe has been abolished, which is what I addressed. So you are off topic!

However to even venture into your change of post, do you not read your bible? Do you not see that Tithe can be brought to the Place where God put his name and not to just Levites?

You are without excuse!

And it is you who are in disobedience of which no one is forcing you to obey but know this: it is you God is watching for I am in obedience so God watching me is what I live for and pray for.

You should be worried for yourself!

Tithes are for Levites and they are not monetary.

Enough of the longer throat.

aswani:
Tithes are for Levites and they are not monetary.

Enough of the longer throat.

Repeating yourself just shows you have nothing to say in counter.
So I am done, you can continue 🤡 yourself like say dem beg you for your tithe. What a 🤡

Rensheng:
Repeating yourself just shows you have nothing to say in counter.
So I am done, you can continue 🤡 yourself like say dem beg you for your tithe. What a 🤡

Below is Deuteronomy 14:22-27.

22You must be sure to set aside a tenth of all the produce brought forth each year from your fields. 23And you are to eat a tenth of your grain, new wine, and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks, in the presence of the LORD your God at the place He will choose as a dwelling for His Name, so that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.

24But if the distance is too great for you to carry that with which the LORD your God has blessed you, because the place where the LORD your God will choose to put His Name is too far away, 25then exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household. 27And do not neglect the Levite within your gates, since he has no portion or inheritance among you.

According to the verses above, what did God say we should do to our tithe?

Truthseeker10:
Below is Deuteronomy 14:22-27.

22You must be sure to set aside a tenth of all the produce brought forth each year from your fields. 23And you are to eat a tenth of your grain, new wine, and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks, in the presence of the LORD your God at the place He will choose as a dwelling for His Name, so that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.

24But if the distance is too great for you to carry that with which the LORD your God has blessed you, because the place where the LORD your God will choose to put His Name is too far away, 25then exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. 26Then you may spend the money on anything you desire: cattle, sheep, wine, strong drink, or anything you wish. You are to feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice with your household. 27And do not neglect the Levite within your gates, since he has no portion or inheritance among you.

According to the verses above, what did God say we should do to our tithe?

As I said to the moniker whom I answered, the issue is not who tithe should be paid to or what should be done to tithe which you have now shifted post to but whether tithe has been abolished which was in issue.

He shifted post to levites which I answered by showing him it's not levites only who are entitled to tithes.

So your coming to show me the Bible passage which I was referring to only goes to support my assertion that it's not only levites who are entitled to tithes and that it can be brought to the place that has his Name on it.

So you have not said anything contrary!

Rensheng:
As I said to the moniker whom I answered, the issue is not who tithe should be paid to or what should be done to tithe which you have now shifted post to but whether tithe has been abolished which was in issue.

He shifted post to levites which I answered by showing him it's not levites only who are entitled to tithes.

So your coming to show me the Bible passage which I was referring to only goes to support my assertion that it's not only levites who are entitled to tithes and that it can be brought to the place that has his Name on it.

So you have not said anything contrary!

You are deflecting. According to Deuteronomy 14:22-27, what did God say we should do to our tithe?

Rensheng:
He shifted post to levites which I answered by showing him it's not levites only who are entitled to tithes.

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If you are referring to me Pastor, you didn't show me where other people where entitled to tithes. Especially lazy black Africans using the Bible to fleece other lazy black Africans.

aswani:
If you are referring to me Pastor, you didn't show me where other people where entitled to tithes. Especially lazy black Africans using the Bible to fleece other lazy black Africans.

See attempt to relitigate after you kept repeating yourself. Abegi, you have nothing to say! 🤡

Truthseeker10:
You are deflecting. According to Deuteronomy 14:22-27, what did God say we should do to our tithe?

you shifted post thereby deflecting. I have answered you and because you are stumped, and have nothing else to say, you have run to deflecting which you yourself did. So you are only self projecting!

Rensheng:
you shifted post thereby deflecting. I have answered you and because you are stumped, and have nothing else to say, you have run to deflecting which you yourself did. So you are only self projecting!

What kind of mentality and logic is this? I simply asked you to tell us what God said that we should do to our tithe in the verses that I brought up.

Below is Deuteronomy 14:23.

23 And you are to eat a tenth of your grain, new wine, and oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks, in the presence of the LORD your God at the place He will choose as a dwelling for His Name, so that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.

According to the verse above, did God tell us to eat our tithe, Yes or no?