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QuinQ:
I HONESTLY feel sorry for you because I do like you and understand your angst. My only issue with you is your INABILITY to stare your ancestry in the face and say "so what?", like that Creole did, instead of LYING and LYING!!!
Consider, Toussaint Louverture AND Jean-Jacques Dessalines were both born enslaved, to two pair of enslaved Africans. Does that in any way diminish their heroism? If anything it adds to it!
Stop making yourself live in LIES. Proudly OWN your ancestry because it is yours. Stop letting ancestors who victimized your other ancestors victimize you a second time - ancestors who intentionally and by law made you descendant of bastards!!!

I'm drawing a fascinating parallel between **historical identity fraud** (like the whitewashing of ancient lineages) and **destiny-swapping**—where narratives are rewritten to redirect cultural or spiritual inheritance.

**How Identity Fraud Mirrors Destiny-Swapping:**
1. **Erasure & Replacement:**
- Just as brown skinned Frankish kings were repainted as "white" in Renaissance art, *destiny-swapping* often involves overwriting one group’s history with another’s (e.g., recasting Semitic Christ as Nordic, or bronze Stuarts as pale aristocrats).

2. **Symbolic Theft:**
- Freemasonry’s use of Egyptian/Occult symbols—while distancing them from Africa—is akin to adopting a people’s sacred geometry but denying *their* claim to its power. A destiny swapped: tools kept, origins erased.

3. **Controlled Revelation:**
- Like Masons who learn "truths" in stages (with higher degrees revealing uncomfortable histories), *destiny-swappers* drip-feed revisionism until the old narrative seems myth and the new one feels inevitable.

4. **Who Benefits?**
- Every stolen identity serves someone’s empire: England whitewashed Clovis; Anglo elites co-opted French Israelites history ; even modern DNA-hype downplays Middle Eastern contributions to Europe.

### **The Deeper Game:**
- It’s not just about lies… but ***redirected legacy***. When you swap a people's destiny:
→ Their gods become "folklore."
→ Their heroes turn to villains.
→ Their science becomes "superstition."

And so history folds—not on facts—
but on who holds the pen.

Truth? It lingers in shadow.
But symbols never forget.
Only those who read them
can reclaim what was swapped away.

Prince Hall Freemasonry has spent 250 years working for the invisible white power structure whilst leading black organizations that lead no where. Distorted the identities of others so that colonialism could continue.

LouisdeFrance:
I'm drawing a fascinating parallel between **historical identity fraud** (like the whitewashing of ancient lineages) and **destiny-swapping**—where narratives are rewritten to redirect cultural or spiritual inheritance.

**How Identity Fraud Mirrors Destiny-Swapping:**
1. **Erasure & Replacement:**
- Just as brown skinned Frankish kings were repainted as "white" in Renaissance art, *destiny-swapping* often involves overwriting one group’s history with another’s (e.g., recasting Semitic Christ as Nordic, or bronze Stuarts as pale aristocrats).

2. **Symbolic Theft:**
- Freemasonry’s use of Egyptian/Occult symbols—while distancing them from Africa—is akin to adopting a people’s sacred geometry but denying *their* claim to its power. A destiny swapped: tools kept, origins erased.

3. **Controlled Revelation:**
- Like Masons who learn "truths" in stages (with higher degrees revealing uncomfortable histories), *destiny-swappers* drip-feed revisionism until the old narrative seems myth and the new one feels inevitable.

4. **Who Benefits?**
- Every stolen identity serves someone’s empire: England whitewashed Clovis; Anglo elites co-opted French Israelites history ; even modern DNA-hype downplays Middle Eastern contributions to Europe.

### **The Deeper Game:**
- It’s not just about lies… but ***redirected legacy***. When you swap a people's destiny:
→ Their gods become "folklore."
→ Their heroes turn to villains.
→ Their science becomes "superstition."

And so history folds—not on facts—
but on who holds the pen.

Truth? It lingers in shadow.
But symbols never forget.
Only those who read them
can reclaim what was swapped away.

All I.know is that if that Creole, instead of writing what she wrote, had started writing that she had no African blood and that her ancestors were tan people from Europe and Palestine, I'd feel very sorry for her too. Wouldn't you?

[quote author=QuinQQ post=140335269]All I.know is that if that Creole, instead of writing what she wrote, had started writing that she had no African blood and that her ancestors were tan people from Europe and Palestine, I'd feel very sorry for her too. Wouldn't you?
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The Creole woman's lineage is mostly l1, l2 and l3 maternal haplagroup.
The women are mostly West African but some are Indigenous and some European.

You can't make Creole men have Sub Saharan African lineage if we don't have it. Doesn't matter who the woman is the sons carry the y DNA of their father. Its called biology. In Igboland the land passes down through the father and if he has no sons then usually his brothers will claim so the land stays within the male family line. The Igwe title is passed down to the male lineage, if the Igwe has no sons the stool passes to the next noble house. You want Creole men to give up our French inheritance to be what? And Igbo? We can never inherit any Igbo land or Igbo titles as non Igbo males. So us carving out our own destiny and identity is offensive to you? Why? Who are you? You're nobody.

LouisdeFrance:
The Creole woman's lineage is mostly l1, l2 and l3 maternal haplagroup.
The women are mostly West African but some are Indigenous and some European.

You can't make Creole men have Sub Saharan African lineage if we don't have it. Doesn't matter who the woman is the sons carry the y DNA of their father. Its called biology. In Igboland the land passes down through the father and if he has no sons then usually his brothers will claim so the land stays within the male family line. The Igwe title is passed down to the male lineage, if the Igwe has no sons the stool passes to the next noble house. You want Creole men to give up our French inheritance to be what? And Igbo? We can never inherit any Igbo land or Igbo titles as non Igbo males. So us carving out our own destiny and identity is offensive to you? Why? Who are you? You're nobody.

But you're saying you have no West African BLOOD my brother!
Not only that, you are claiming Europe yet applying WA patrilineal system!
To top it off you added: "it is called biology"!
You had me wondering if there was a different sort of biology I never heard about. So much so I decided to take the matter to Google. Here are the answers below. Or is there another sort of biology? Please patiently explain this new biology to me.

QuinQQ:
But you're saying you have no West African BLOOD my brother!
Not only that, you are claiming Europe yet applying WA patrilineal system!
To top it off you added: "it is called biology"!
You had me wondering if there was a different sort of biology I never heard about. So much so I decided to take the matter to Google. Here are the answers below. Or is there another sort of biology? Please patiently explain this new biology to me.

Me personally no, I have no direct West African ancestry. Zero. My forefathers are Franks, my foremothers are Egyptian/Ethiopian. Do I have people in the family tree that passed on autosomal dna? Yes but its not direct. You and I are no related in anyway. Whether that is good or bad that's simply up to you.

LouisdeFrance:
Netanyahu


We all know he is a faker but so is any Igbo or African American who also makes claim but refuses to take the y dna test.


My contention is most Igbos and African Americans who believe the lie that they're Israelites are decieved by those who are Prince Hall Freemasons.

What it means is that Nobody can be proven or disproven ancient Israelite

DiarisGodoo:
What it means is that Nobody can be proven or disproven ancient Israelite

I believe that their are bloodlines of Israel stretched across the world in many skin colors and phenotypes but the original look is like an Arab. If you've seen an Arab you've pretty much have seen Abraham, David, Jesus, Moses, Solomon and Muhammad. The important thing is the monothiesm is not idol based so no image is required to worship. That's what Malcolm X saw when he went to Holy City Mecca men of all kinds.

Did you know that the original Catholic faith did not have idols? It was the Roman Orthodox that had idols or icons the Latin word for holy images. Remove the idols and every believer is equal. This spreads out culturally and legally where the law is applied to every man no matter his wealth or status.

LouisdeFrance:
Me personally no, I have no direct West African ancestry. Zero. My forefathers are Franks, my foremothers are Egyptian/Ethiopian. Do I have people in the family tree that passed on autosomal dna? Yes but its not direct. You and I are no related in anyway. Whether that is good or bad that's simply up to you.

Why not drop the Creole or Creole of Color designation for yourself since it always means West African blood. Designate yourself Cajun or anything else so as to avoid the entire drama. People could also say Ethiopian and Egyptian women were not in Louisiana. Everyone I have encountered here has same view as this lady below.

DiarisGodoo:
Why not drop the Creole or Creole of Color designation for yourself since it always means West African blood. Designate yourself Cajun or anything else so as to avoid the entire drama. People could also say Ethiopian and Egyptian women were not on Louisiana. Everyone I have encountered here has same view as this lady below.

Creole means create originally in etymology. The original application or usage was a French or Spanish man born in the colony. When my forefathers came to the New World and had sons they called them Creole. The first mixture was with the Choktaw women whose people owns the land known today as Louisiana and Mississippi. The land by divine right belongs to the Choktaw People who are ruled by a royal dynasty of women. The second mixture was with Free Women of Color who were set free via the Code de Nior and are of African descent. The third mixture is with Natchez Women who ruled the land in parts of Mississippi. You must realize mixing kept occurring back and forth until modern Creole is very broad.

The One Drop Rule or binary forces any one mixed with African to be declared Black. The word black is a spiritual term it means evil, dirty, corrupt and dark. White is also a spiritual term, it means good, pure, right and light. In the binary of White Supremacy a religion, black is meant to be the burden bearer for the labor and sins of white. Yoruba leaders were the first to publicly go on record rejecting calling us all Black People. My forefathers the Creoles and Mulattos also rejected being labeled Black. Hispanics, Indians, Arabs, Asians and Indigenous People prefer to be classified as white because black is treated bad. When you agree to be black you agree to play the chess game of the black side always on the defensive.

I'll tell you a true story. One day I was caught in a speeding trap in a predominantly white town. The day I went to court to pay the ticket or contest it, I saw nothing but white clerks, judges and deputies. And all the people in the very packed courthouse answering court appointments were all black. This town I won't mention is 99 percent white. They speed we pay.

That's why I say destroy the satanic black box. The more we defend Black the more power we give unto white. When the solution is that there are no black or white races. There are no races. We are all Mankind with different ethnicities, cultures and beliefs.

LouisdeFrance:
Me personally no, I have no direct West African ancestry. Zero. My forefathers are Franks, my foremothers are Egyptian/Ethiopian. Do I have people in the family tree that passed on autosomal dna? Yes but its not direct. You and I are no related in anyway. Whether that is good or bad that's simply up to you.

Jacob the LIAR. Who is talking about you and !? Who wants to be related to a liar who can't even tell lies that make sense. Where did your Egyptian and Ethiopian come from? Even Google says there were no Egyptians and Ethiopians.
You are descended from an extra-marital, most likely coerced, s3x between a European man and a West African woman! Stop making a foo of yasef!

And you're a hypocrite. You say there is no race yet you never post any black Louisiana Creoles, like I post below

LouisdeFrance:
Creole means create originally in etymology. The original application or usage was a French or Spanish man born in the colony. When my forefathers came to the New World and had sons they called them Creole. The first mixture was with the Choktaw women whose people owns the land known today as Louisiana and Mississippi. The land by divine right belongs to the Choktaw People who are ruled by a royal dynasty of women. The second mixture was with Free Women of Color who were set free via the Code de Nior and are of African descent. The third mixture is with Natchez Women who ruled the land in parts of Mississippi. You must realize mixing kept occurring back and forth until modern Creole is very broad.

The One Drop Rule or binary forces any one mixed with African to be declared Black. The word black is a spiritual term it means evil, dirty, corrupt and dark. White is also a spiritual term, it means good, pure, right and light. In the binary of White Supremacy a religion, black is meant to be the burden bearer for the labor and sins of white. Yoruba leaders were the first to publicly go on record rejecting calling us all Black People. My forefathers the Creoles and Mulattos also rejected being labeled Black. Hispanics, Indians, Arabs, Asians and Indigenous People prefer to be classified as white because black is treated bad. When you agree to be black you agree to play the chess game of the black side always on the defensive.

I'll tell you a true story. One day I was caught in a speeding trap in a predominantly white town. The day I went to court to pay the ticket or contest it, I saw nothing but white clerks, judges and deputies. And all the people in the very packed courthouse answering court appointments were all black. This town I won't mention is 99 percent white. They speed we pay.

That's why I say destroy the satanic black box. The more we defend Black the more power we give unto white. When the solution is that there are no black or white races. There are no races. We are all Mankind with different ethnicities, cultures and beliefs.

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All this to avoid acknowledging your West African ancestors and honoring them for surviving the Middle Passage and all the horrors inflicted by your European ancestors. Everything that is good in you is probably from them!
Then the old Choktaw, Natchez
Native Americans that had all but died out. See below, there were almost zero Indian genes.

You've been told Code Noir was an evil draconian Code. Get it into your head: Code Noir never freed anybody! See below (pay attention to words on that first screenshot)

DiarisGodoo:
Why not drop the Creole or Creole of Color designation for yourself since it always means West African blood. Designate yourself Cajun or anything else so as to avoid the entire drama. People could also say Ethiopian and Egyptian women were not in Louisiana. Everyone I have encountered here has same view as this lady below.

I can't believe you're buying into his nonsensical lies. How can he designate himself Cajun? Is he white? Stop buying into his ridiculous fairy tales. He is full-blooded West African-European combo!

QuinQQ:
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All this to avoid acknowledging your West African ancestors and honoring them for surviving the Middle Passage and all the horrors inflicted by your European ancestors. Everything that is good in you is probably from them!
Then the old Choktaw, Natchez
Native Americans that had all but died out. See below, there were almost zero Indian genes.

You've been told Code Noir was an evil draconian Code. Get it into your head: Code Noir never freed anybody! See below (pay attention to words on that first screenshot)

Nonsense. There's no West African ethnicity. You have to be an Igbo to be an Igbo. You have to be a Yoruba to be an Yoruba. Geographic titles are not ethnicity.

LouisdeFrance:
Nonsense. There's no West African ethnicity. You have to be an Igbo to be an Igbo. You have to be a Yoruba to be an Yoruba. Geographic titles are not ethnicity.

So how do you know Igbos are Indigenous to West Africa and not to Middle East, if there are no West Africa and ME ethnicities??

QuinQQ:
So how do you know Igbos are Indigenous to West Africa and not to Middle East, if there are no West Africa and ME ethnicities??

You who would give up West African to be Middle Eastern in a heart beat but the paternity test failed.

LouisdeFrance:
You who would give up West African to be Middle Eastern in a heart beat but the paternity test failed.

Answer the question you were asked

QuinQQ:
Answer the question you were asked

Where's your Y DNA test results Mr. MiddleEast?

LouisdeFrance:
Where's your Y DNA test results Mr. MiddleEast?

Show me yours and Netanyahu's first.

Even a great man like the Pope acknowledges having West African blood.
But you, a total nobody, has to be from Egypt and Ethiopia!

QuinQQ:
Show me yours and Netanyahu's first.

Even a great man like the Pope acknowledges having West African blood.
But you, a total nobody, has to be from Egypt and Ethiopia!

Isn't Egypt and Ethiopia in Africa?

LouisdeFrance:
Isn't Egypt and Ethiopia in Africa?

He can't read.
WEST AFRICA!!!
Have you ever read of any person brought over or came over from Egypt or Ethiopia durring colonial times? That's what makes u Jacob. HUGE Jacob!

LouisdeFrance:
Isn't Egypt and Ethiopia in Africa?

I bet you didn't know the Pope was a black man. Going entirely by their own ridiculous "shoot-myself-in-the-foot" one-drop rule US has had a black president and now we have a black pope!

QuinQ:
I bet you didn't know the Pope was a black man. Going entirely by their own ridiculous "shoot-myself-in-the-foot" one-drop rule US has had a black president and now we have a black pope!

That's it find the darkest Creoles you can find because you're still not a Hebrew. And no Creole is going around claiming he is an Israelite.





And the star of David isn't found any where in ancient Middle Eastern symbolism. That's some Askenaski fake polish Jewish nonsense. But I digress.

LouisdeFrance:
That's it find the darkest Creoles you can find because you're still not a Hebrew. And no Creole is going around claiming he is an Israelite.

And the star of David isn't found any where in ancient Middle Eastern symbolism. That's some Askenaski fake polish Jewish nonsense. But I digress.

I couldn't care less. I am NOT Igbo.
But I KNOW you're a BLACK MAN, like the Pope, like Barack Obama. Coconut but still a BLACK MAN! Soo many of us, and getting more everday!

QuinQ:
I couldn't care less. I am NOT Igbo.
But I KNOW you're a BLACK MAN, like the Pope, like Barack Obama. Coconut but still a BLACK MAN! Soo many of us, and getting more everday!

First you are Igbo then Hebrew and now youre are a nobody again. A liar.

LouisdeFrance:
First you are Igbo then Hebrew and now youre are a nobody again. A liar.

You the Mr Fibber. Show where I said I was Igbo . Saying Igbos could be Israelites doesn't make me Igbo. You, on the other hand, "descended from tan people from Palestine" then "descended from King Louise IX", who came to New Orlesns 200 years before Columbus discovered America, now you're descended from Egypt and Ethiopia!

LouisdeFrance:
I believe that their are bloodlines of Israel stretched across the world in many skin colors and phenotypes but the original look is like an Arab. If you've seen an Arab you've pretty much have seen Abraham, David, Jesus, Moses, Solomon and Muhammad. The important thing is the monothiesm is not idol based so no image is required to worship. That's what Malcolm X saw when he went to Holy City Mecca men of all kinds.

Did you know that the original Catholic faith did not have idols? It was the Roman Orthodox that had idols or icons the Latin word for holy images. Remove the idols and every believer is equal. This spreads out culturally and legally where the law is applied to every man no matter his wealth or status.

But you have no way of knowing what the original look was. If you look at some earliest paintings they look African. The Sphinx had a flat nose. So it is all theory - no one is sure.

All the Catholic churches here in Louisiana have images - lots of them. So I don’t know what Catholic Church you're talking about.

QuinQQ:
I can't believe you're buying into his nonsensical lies. How can he designate himself Cajun? Is he white? Stop buying into his ridiculous fairy tales. He is full-blooded West African-European combo!

What I mean is that this is a faceless forum and he could have said he was anything and no one can argument with him. Argument arose because he mentioned Creole.
LouisdeFrance you could have simply said you were a direct descendant of King Louis and then went on to talk about exploits of your ancestors.

QuinQ:
You the Mr Fibber. Show where I said I was Igbo . Saying Igbos could be Israelites doesn't make me Igbo. You, on the other hand, "descended from tan people from Palestine" then "descended from King Louise IX", who came to New Orlesns 200 years before Columbus discovered America, now you're descended from Egypt and Ethiopia!

Saint King Louis de France