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Poll: If a man refuses DNA test because he loves the child too much does that make him a simp?
Yes
66% (4 votes)
No
33% (2 votes)
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 11:14pm On Aug 20 |
DMCA: ![]() It is time to start showing a misbehaving little god the tree from which he was carved. |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by CanadaOrBust: 11:45pm On Aug 20 |
DiarisGodoo:It is also bewildering to me. You'd expect such a person to keep a low profile when ancestry is discussed |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by CanadaOrBust: 11:50pm On Aug 20 |
LouisdeFrance:I didn't know I said I wanted him to be |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by CanadaOrBust: 11:53pm On Aug 20 |
QuinQQ:Of course DNA at birth is a given |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 12:09am On Aug 21 |
DMCA:You nailed it. You deserve two pannies Whst colour would you call this
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 1:16am On Aug 21 |
DMCA:You mean fiancé ![]() |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 1:47am On Aug 21*. Modified: 2:03am On Aug 21 |
DiarisGodoo:It is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. It has you wondering if you living in some sort of alternate universe, where people are proud of what they ought be ashamed of! |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 2:01am On Aug 21*. Modified: 12:50pm On Aug 21 |
Diamond098454:But not the way they have it over there. Example, it means nothing to Nigerians if Tinubu, Obi, Atiku are light or dark. All that matters is what tribe they're from Same way, colour doesn't matter at all in Gaza (where they're all same colour BTW). All that matters is if you're Jewish or Palestinian! |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 2:46am On Aug 21 |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 4:23am On Aug 21 |
CanadaOrBust: QuinQ: QuinQ:The historical relationship between the expanding Benin Empire and the neighboring Western Igbo communities was defined by a brutal asymmetry of power, where military conquest directly translated into the systematic subjugation of Igboland. Benin’s imperial expansion relied on aggressive border raids that fractured the sovereignty of Igbo towns, reducing independent communities to vulnerable frontiers. By executing local defenders and targeting the structures of Igbo governance, the kingdom effectively dismantled the political and social autonomy of these borderlands, imposing a state of fear and submission that altered the geopolitical landscape of the region for generations. Central to this subjugation was the gender-selective terror inflicted upon Igbo women and girls, whose bodies were weaponized as spoils of war. Systematic rape and forced concubinage were codified instruments of imperial dominance, tearing these women from their ancestral homes and placing them into the royal harems (Eguae) or the domestic estates of Bini chiefs. This institutionalized sexual violence was not merely a byproduct of warfare; it was a deliberate strategy of cultural and biological assimilation. By forcing captured Igbo women to bear children who would be raised strictly with Bini identities, the empire stripped these victims of their autonomy while systematically erasing their maternal Igbo heritage. The long-term consequence of this violence was a profound disruption of Igbo lineages and demographic continuity. While Igboland suffered a severe depletion of its population and the severing of ancient family lines, the forced influx of these women introduced an asymmetrical gene flow into the Benin population. This created a deep, painful biological paradox: a shared genetic heritage across modern border communities built entirely upon the historical trauma of captivity and exploitation. Through this systematic displacement and reproductive coercion, the Benin Kingdom left an indelible mark on the lineage of the region, fusing the two cultures through a legacy of enforced subjugation.
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 2:09pm On Aug 21 |
LouisdeFrance:Whoever wrote this doesn't know what he is writing. Probably barely read the book. It is so annoying! WHY NOT READ THE BOOK YOURSELF? Traditional Igbo society was very egalitarian. There were no "big men" or kings. That's why this your fixation on "big men" looks weird and ludicrous. Okonkwo was no "big man" at all and no one worshipped him. He had serious insecurities about failing because his father was a total failure, and he had anger issues. Like in all Igbo families he was head of his family as the man but that was where all his "big man" ended. READ THE BOOK! |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 4:43pm On Aug 21 |
QuinQ:I tell ya, honestly gives me vibes of a grotesque danse macabre of some sort |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 5:23pm On Aug 21 |
DiarisGodoo:
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 7:47pm On Aug 21 |
DMCA: ![]() You get wet panny for making me laugh. But I'll put it as my DP. You have to go to my profile to see it!😆 What you think? Took it this morning. Hope fiancé doesn't mind |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 7:53pm On Aug 21 |
QuinQ: ![]() d slimier d better ![]() ur kind of person (mind) go dey very interesting for dza odza room earnestly ![]() |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 8:53pm On Aug 21 |
DMCA:LouisdeFrance go kill you o! I lost some weight lately. You think this is ok or lose a little more? |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 8:57pm On Aug 21 |
LouisdeFrance:Please what is this "big man" supposed to mean? Is it supposed to be praise or insult? And of who exactly? |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 9:04pm On Aug 21 |
DiarisGodoo:That's the word I've been looking for, "grotesque"! LouisdeFrance that's the feeling we get when we see a child being jingoistic about a father who enslaved and very likely raped his mother to have him! |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 9:12pm On Aug 21 |
Louis what u think of these below? Diarisgodoo LouisdeFrance
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 9:13pm On Aug 21 |
QuinQ:Are you offended by the truth? According to biblical genealogies, David is a direct descendant of Shem through the lineage of Judah, while Goliath’s specific ancestry from Ham is traditionally inferred because he was a champion of the Philistines and from Gath, a region historically associated with Ham's descendants (such as Canaan and Mizraim). David’s Lineage (Shem): Traced in the biblical text (such as in Ruth 4 and the Gospels) from Shem down through Arpachshad to Abraham, Judah, and eventually King David.Goliath’s Lineage (Ham): Goliath was from Gath, part of the Philistine city-states. In the Genesis Table of Nations, the Philistines and the geographic regions of the Canaanites/Anakim are widely interpreted by biblical scholars and traditional commentaries to fall under the broader posterity of Ham.
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 9:24pm On Aug 21 |
# The Bloodline of Fire: From Noah’s Ark to the "Big Men" of Africa History has a way of repeating itself. It echoes across thousands of years through names, family lines, and cultural story types. If we trace the Bible's family trees from Noah's Ark to ancient battlefields, and then connect that history to West Africa, a fascinating archetype emerges: **The "Big Man."** This is the story of the line of Ham, the fiery nature of giants, and how the spirit of Goliath lives on in literary masterpieces like Chinua Achebe’s *Things Fall Apart*. --- ## 1. The Heritage of David and Goliath To understand this story, we have to look back at the original family split after the Great Flood. According to biblical accounts, two very different worldviews walked off Noah's Ark, eventually meeting again as mortal enemies on the battlefield. * **David’s Lineage (The Line of Shem):** David's family tree is clearly written down in the Book of Ruth and the Gospels. He comes from Shem, Noah's oldest son. Shem’s line was blessed to keep the worship of God alive, passing down to Abraham, Judah, and eventually King David. * **Goliath’s Lineage (The Line of Ham):** Goliath was the giant champion of the Philistines from the city of Gath. In the Genesis "Table of Nations," the Philistines and the geographic regions of Canaan fall under the family line of Ham’s sons, Mizraim and Canaan. This means that while David and Goliath stood on opposite sides of a fierce war, they were actually distant cousins whose family lines started under the exact same roof. --- ## 2. The Etymology of Ham: A Heritage of Heat In the ancient Hebrew language, the word used for the name Ham is *Cham* (חָם). This name literally translates to **"hot"** or **"warm."** This root word extends far beyond the physical climate of the lands his family moved to. In ancient word studies, the root word carries a deep behavioral meaning: * **Emotional Intensity:** To be mentally hot-blooded, easily excited, or quickly angered. * **Fury and Wrath:** A fiery disposition that translates to physical dominance, ambition, and a refusal to be broken. From Ham came the mighty builders of empires, hunters like Nimrod, and the ancient tribes of giants—the Anakim—who ruled through physical intimidation. Goliath of Gath was the ultimate example of this "hot-blooded" line. He was a champion who ruled the battlefield with his massive spear and the terrifying heat of his proud voice. --- ## 3. The West African Archetype: The "Big Man" Culture The cultural and geographic descendants of Ham’s line settled heavily throughout the African continent. When we look at the traditional social structures of West Africa, we find a powerful, surviving social framework known to historians as **"Big Man" culture.** In this traditional setting, a "Big Man" is not just someone with political power. He is a force of nature. ### Attributes of the Traditional "Big Man": * **Physical and Social Stature:** He commands authority through a dominant physical presence and personal wealth. * **The Fierce Provider:** He is hot-blooded, deeply competitive, and fiercely protective of his household and clan. * **Rule by Strength:** Status is won through wrestling matches, warfare, and out-working everyone else. --- ## 4. *Things Fall Apart*: Okonkwo as the Literary Goliath Nowhere is this convergence of hot blood, giant stature, and West African "Big Man" culture more perfectly personified than in **Okonkwo**, the main character of Chinua Achebe’s classic novel, *Things Fall Apart*. Okonkwo is the modern literary descendant of the Goliath archetype. Achebe introduces him not as a politician, but as a physical titan whose fame rested on solid personal achievements. The Hot-Blooded Archetype ]|+-----------+-----------+| |[ Biblical ] [ West African ]Goliath of Gath Okonkwo of Umuofia(The Giant) (The "Big Man" | |• Rule by physical force • Famous for wrestling giants• Driven by fiery pride • Driven by fear of weakness• Defies the changing tide • Crumbles when things fall apart. to the biblical accounts and traditional commentaries, David and Goliath are distant cousins because their lineages trace back to two brothers, Shem and Ham, who were the sons of Noah.
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 9:33pm On Aug 21 |
QuinQ:The historical relationship between the expanding Benin Empire and the neighboring Western Igbo communities was defined by a brutal asymmetry of power, where military conquest directly translated into the systematic subjugation of Igboland. Benin’s imperial expansion relied on aggressive border raids that fractured the sovereignty of Igbo towns, reducing independent communities to vulnerable frontiers. By executing local defenders and targeting the structures of Igbo governance, the kingdom effectively dismantled the political and social autonomy of these borderlands, imposing a state of fear and submission that altered the geopolitical landscape of the region for generations. Central to this subjugation was the gender-selective terror inflicted upon Igbo women and girls, whose bodies were weaponized as spoils of war. Systematic rape and forced concubinage were codified instruments of imperial dominance, tearing these women from their ancestral homes and placing them into the royal harems (Eguae) or the domestic estates of Bini chiefs. This institutionalized sexual violence was not merely a byproduct of warfare; it was a deliberate strategy of cultural and biological assimilation. By forcing captured Igbo women to bear children who would be raised strictly with Bini identities, the empire stripped these victims of their autonomy while systematically erasing their maternal Igbo heritage. The long-term consequence of this violence was a profound disruption of Igbo lineages and demographic continuity. While Igboland suffered a severe depletion of its population and the severing of ancient family lines, the forced influx of these women introduced an asymmetrical gene flow into the Benin population. This created a deep, painful biological paradox: a shared genetic heritage across modern border communities built entirely upon the historical trauma of captivity and exploitation. Through this systematic displacement and reproductive coercion, the Benin Kingdom left an indelible mark on the lineage of the region, fusing the two cultures through a legacy of enforced subjugation.
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 9:39pm On Aug 21 |
QuinQ:I like it thicky thicky ![]() |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 10:06pm On Aug 21 |
LouisdeFrance:Aren't you a bit too old and not-totally-illitereate to be posting this Sham-Ham-Japheth stuff?? ![]() Read below
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 10:48pm On Aug 21 |
QuinQ: schizo rights matter ![]() schizo opinions matter ![]() respect schizo opinions ![]() ![]() |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 12:00am On Aug 22 |
DMCA:If LouisdeFrance catch you eh Don't forget, he's the illegitimate great great grandson of Louis IX and an Ethipian woman😎 |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 12:39am On Aug 22 |
QuinQ:Genetic studies on paternal lineages demonstrate that Y-DNA profiles among the Igbo and Yoruba are predominantly indigenous to West Africa, specifically centering on the sub-Saharan paternal haplogroup E1b1a (E-M2), rather than typical Middle Eastern paternal lineages. ### Paternal Lineages in West Africa * **Dominant Haplogroup:** The vast majority of men from the Igbo and Yoruba ethnic groups carry E1b1a, an ancient African lineage that expanded across West and Central Africa over millennia. * **Differentiation from Middle Eastern Markers:** Characteristic Middle Eastern paternal markers—such as haplogroups J1 or J2, which are frequent in populations of the Levant and Arabian Peninsula—are largely absent in baseline populations of these West African groups. ### Context of Identity Claims * **Cultural Parallels vs. Genetics:** Cultural or oral traditions linking certain African groups to external regions (such as historical or biblical migrations from the Near East) are distinct from molecular anthropology findings, which show deep indigenous continuity in West Africa. * **Scientific Consensus:** Population geneticists and anthropological studies conclude that the genetic architecture—both uniparental (Y-DNA and mtDNA) and autosomal—reflects local evolution and regional demographic expansions rather than a recent genetic contribution from the Middle East.
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| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 2:18am On Aug 22 |
Mockery Is a Form of Social Positioning, I don't make mock, I relay the facts of science and mathematics. |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 3:15am On Aug 22 |
QuinQ:I honestly don't understand the man. Why is he fixated on the one thing he's at a disadvantage - ancesry. I told him I'm right here in Louisiana and quite familiar with the rather shameful basis of his ancestry, yet he keeps talking. |
| Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 3:21am On Aug 22 |
QuinQ:No church is perfect, I wouldn't be a Catholic though. The upside-down cross commemorates the crucifixion of St. Peter who asked to be crucified upside down as he felt unworthy to be crucified same as Christ. |
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