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Poll: If a man refuses DNA test because he loves the child too much does that make him a simp?

Yes 66% (4 votes)
No 33% (2 votes)
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Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 2:30am On Aug 25
QuinQ:
Don't mind him. This is another example of his stupid lies. If these people were hiding that'd be different. How many of them were/are homosexuals or even supported LGBTQ? Not one. If someone like Obama were there you could point to him, but he isn't!
The most anti-gay US presidents were Masons
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 2:34am On Aug 25
QuinQ:
Thanks for sharing this.
Here's the summary below.
(BTW does it mean 56.1% of Ist born sons are not the fathers' biological children?)
Anyway I've always said there ought be COMPULSORY at-birth DNA testing...
BUT!!! If for whatever reason the DNA is not tested till around 13, and the dad has had the child since infancy, he should be encouraged to focus on raising the child to 18.
Infants are sweet but teenagers can be very difficult; so there'd naturally be temptation to throw them out. The idea is to help men avoid that temptation!
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Everybody supports that DNA testing be compulsory at birth. So how come we don't have it?
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DiarisGodoo: 2:39am On Aug 25
QuinQ:
Also, there is this guy, LouisdeFrance, who has been disturbing the forum about how he's somehow a descendant of King Louis IX of France (who died in the 1200s) and an Ethiopian woman!
He is a light-skinned Louisiana Creole of colour who has never left US.
This below is to make clear to him what he came from and his ancestry - and make clear to him that the story of King Louis has nothing to do with him!
And also advice him to avoid topics like ancestry as they'll tend to bring shame on him.
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Mike Tyson always says he came from the gutter. Doesn't mean he does not have Kings and Nobles in his African and European ancestry. Likewise, Louisiana Creoles of Color also somewhat came from the gutter and should be the last to be bragging about ancestry.
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 4:41am On Aug 25
DiarisGodoo:
Mike Tyson always says he came from the gutter. Doesn't mean he does not have Kings and Nobles in his African and European ancestry. Likewise, Louisiana Creoles of Color also somewhat came from the gutter and should be the last to be bragging about ancestry.
I'm a J2 haplagroup for the Middle East Land of David. As a de France my paternal lineage traces all the way back through kings. That list of kings is known in France tracing the Merovingian back to the king of kings. And as I said before mine family isn't only Creole family that goes back to King Louis. My great grandfather King Louis XIV is the longest reigning monarch in the history of the world. There's multiple portraits of King Louis XIV showing his was light skinned. Not a dark Sub Saharan African and nor a pale Nordic man. No Sub Saharan Africans ever ruled Europe.


Your destiny swap failed.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 9:33am On Aug 25
DiarisGodoo:
Mike Tyson always says he came from the gutter. Doesn't mean he does not have Kings and Nobles in his African and European ancestry. Likewise, Louisiana Creoles of Color also somewhat came from the gutter and should be the last to be bragging about ancestry.
Maybe "born in the gutter" is a bit harsh, but Creoles of Colour should definitely keep far away from ancestry discussions
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f):
LouisdeFrance:
I'm a J2 haplagroup for the Middle East Land of David. As a de France my paternal lineage traces
Doesn't change the fact someone was born in the gutter.

Besides, haplogroup doesn't mean much character-wise. See below

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op):
LouisdeFrance:
I'm a J2 haplagroup for the Middle East Land of David. As a de France my paternal lineage traces all the way back through kings. That list of kings is known in France tracing the Merovingian back to the king of kings. And as I said before mine family isn't only Creole family that goes back to King Louis. My great grandfather King Louis XIV is the longest reigning monarch in the history of the world. There's multiple portraits of King Louis XIV showing his was light skinned. Not a dark Sub Saharan African and nor a pale Nordic man. No Sub Saharan Africans ever ruled Europe.


Your destiny swap failed.
Besides, someone is lying. See below
Both Kings Louis 9 and 14 are R-Z381

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 10:19am On Aug 25
LouisdeFrance:
I'm a J2 haplagroup for the Middle East Land of David. As a de France my paternal lineage traces
Besides someone is lying. See real DNA results of Creoles below. Post yours

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 1:09pm On Aug 25
QuinQQ:
Besides someone is lying. See real DNA results of Creoles below. Post yours
No surprise say louisdefrance secret bloodline fit be 98.98% African blood grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 2:50pm On Aug 25
Genetic studies show that the predominant paternal Y-DNA lineage among Igbo men is Haplogroup E1b1a (specifically E-M2), which is native to sub-Saharan Africa and distinct from Middle Eastern or Levantine Y-DNA markers.Y-DNA ProfileDominant Marker: The vast majority of Igbo males carry E1b1a, a lineage strongly associated with West and Central African populations and the expansion of Niger-Congo language speakers.Absence of Middle Eastern Lineages: Common Middle Eastern or Mediterranean paternal markers (such as typical branches of J or E1b1b associated with the Levant) are virtually absent or appear at negligible frequencies in baseline genetic samples of indigenous Igbo populations.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:13pm On Aug 25
DMCA:
No surprise say louisdefrance secret bloodline fit be 98.98% African blood grin
grin grin grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 4:20pm On Aug 25
QuinQ:
grin grin grin
u d laff ur fiance abi cool
but why d bloodline no go secret? cool
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 4:25pm On Aug 25
DMCA:
No surprise say louisdefrance secret bloodline fit be 98.98% African blood grin
You wan put me in trouble. No be am I dey laugh o. I just dey laugh grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 4:41pm On Aug 25
LouisdeFrance:
Genetic studies show that the predominant paternal Y-DNA lineage among Igbo men is Haplogroup E1b1a (specifically E-M2), which is native to sub-Saharan Africa and distinct from Middle Eastern or Levantine Y-DNA markers.Y-DNA ProfileDominant Marker: The vast majority of Igbo males carry E1b1a, a lineage strongly associated with West and Central African populations and the expansion of Niger-Congo language speakers.Absence of Middle Eastern Lineages: Common Middle Eastern or Mediterranean paternal markers (such as typical branches of J or E1b1b associated with the Levant) are virtually absent or appear at negligible frequencies in baseline genetic samples of indigenous Igbo populations.
LIAR still hasn't told us how come his vaunted "family members" he's been disturbing us about have haplogroup different from his!
Kings Louis 9 and 14 are R-Z381 while you are (purportedly) J2. Please explain that before we go on
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 4:46pm On Aug 25
# The Architecture of a Spiritual Delusion:
## Prince Hall Freemasonry, African Liberation Theology, and the Hebrew Identity Claim

To understand how the claim of Hebrew ancestry transitioned from a simple cultural observation into a foundational pillar of Black nationalist identity, one must examine the intersection of Prince Hall Freemasonry, African Liberation Theology, and the rise of charismatic street prophets. Together, these forces created an ecosystem where spiritual necessity overrode genetic and genealogical realities, directly mirroring the warning of "strong delusion" found in 2 Thessalonians 2:11.

---

### 1. The Crucible of Prince Hall Freemasonry

Founded in 1784 by the abolitionist Prince Hall, Prince Hall Freemasonry was created as a sanctuary of literacy, leadership, and esoteric study. Denied entry into white lodges, Black men formed their own fraternal spaces.

Within these lodges, members heavily studied biblical allegory, Egyptian mystery schools, and ancient lineages. This focus on hidden history gave early Black thinkers a specific vocabulary to reject the white, Eurocentric interpretations of Scripture that had been used to justify slavery.

While mainstream Prince Hall Masonry itself focused on traditional civic uplift, charity, and civil rights, the esoteric environment it fostered became the perfect incubator for alternative histories. It taught generations of Black men to look beneath the surface of orthodox history to find their "true" ancient identities.

---

### 2. The Mechanics of the "Strong Delusion"

As these esoteric ideas moved from the private lodge rooms into the public sphere during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, they fused with a burgeoning desire for absolute spiritual independence. This gave rise to what can be described as a beautifully orchestrated, yet historically inaccurate, delusion:

[Prince Hall Esotericism] ➔ [Charismatic Street Prophets] ➔ [African Liberation Theology] ➔ [The Hebrew Identity Claim]

* The Rejection of European Identity: For centuries, European colonial powers used Christianity to tell Black people they were cursed descendants of Ham. To break this psychological chain, early liberation thinkers decided that the ultimate form of spiritual rebellion was to claim the highest biblical lineage available: the Chosen People of the Old Testament.
* The Appeal of the Narrative: Claiming to be the literal, biological Hebrew Israelites provided an elegant, poetic answer to the trauma of the transatlantic slave trade. It turned a history of victimization into a narrative of divine exile and promised restoration.

---

### 3. The Role of the "False Prophets"

The transition from esoteric Masonic concepts to widespread theological movements was driven by self-styled prophets and charismatic street preachers in urban America. These leaders weaponized the biblical concept of the "Lost Tribes" to build new religious movements:

* Frank Cherry and William Crowdy: In the late 1800s, figures like Frank Cherry (who claimed a vision from God) and William Saunders Crowdy founded the earliest Black Hebrew congregations. They explicitly taught that Black Americans and specific West African tribes—like the Igbo—were the only authentic descendants of the ancient Israelites.
* The "Proof" of Deuteronomy 28: These leaders pointed to the curses of Deuteronomy 28 (which prophesied that the Israelites would be taken into slavery by ships and scattered across the earth) as absolute theological proof. To a community suffering under Jim Crow segregation, this explanation felt more accurate than any science textbook.
* Ben Ammi Ben-Israel: By the mid-20th century, leaders like Ben Ammi Ben-Israel took this doctrine to its logical conclusion, leading a mass emigration of African Americans to Israel, claiming their right of return based entirely on prophecy rather than genealogy.

---

### 4. Convergence with African Liberation Theology

African Liberation Theology sought to present a God who was actively fighting on the side of the oppressed against white supremacy. Within this framework, the historical facts of DNA and genealogy were viewed not as objective truth, but as tools of the oppressor designed to keep Black people blind to their true spiritual royalty.

When global communication opened up in the 20th century, this Western-born "Hebrew Israelite" theology traveled backward across the Atlantic to West Africa. When the Igbo people—who were already reeling from the trauma of the Biafran War and searching for their own framework of survival—encountered these ideas, the two narratives locked perfectly into place.

### Summary

Ultimately, the promotion of the Hebrew identity claim was an act of survival masquerading as historiography. Prince Hall Freemasonry provided the intellectual scaffolding, the charismatic prophets provided the dogmatic conviction, and African Liberation Theology provided the political justification. Together, they crafted a beautiful, deeply comforting shield against the pain of historical displacement—creating a spiritual conviction so potent that no amount of modern genetic science can dismantle it.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 5:01pm On Aug 25
QuinQQ:
LIAR still hasn't told us how come his vaunted "family members" he's been disturbing us about have haplogroup different from his!
Kings Louis 9 and 14 are R-Z381 while you are (purportedly) J2. Please explain that before we go on
grin secret bloodline no secret again grin
u suppose d wear victoria secrets for ur man grin but as secret no suppose secret again stop d wear panny grin
everyday suppose be like June 22. grin
no panny day. grin
oya show me some no panny grin grin grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 5:27pm On Aug 25
DMCA:
grin secret bloodline no secret again grin
u suppose d wear victoria secrets for ur man grin but as secret no suppose secret again stop d wear panny grin
everyday suppose be like June 22. grin
no panny day. grin
oya show me some no panny grin grin grin
More like LIAR bloodline😅
I was tempted to show my face.
You want I show my face?
No na only for fiance. Liar fiance😂

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 5:44pm On Aug 25
LouisdeFrance:
# The Architecture of a Spiritual Delusion:
## Prince Hall Freemasonry, African Liberation Theology, and the Hebrew Identity Claim

To understand how the claim of Hebrew ancestry transitioned from a simple cultural observation into a foundational pillar of Black nationalist identity, one must examine the intersection of Prince Hall Freemasonry, African Liberation Theology, and the rise of charismatic street prophets. Together, these forces created an ecosystem where spiritual necessity overrode genetic and genealogical realities, directly mirroring the warning of "strong delusion" found in 2 Thessalonians 2:11.

---

### 1. The Crucible of Prince Hall Freemasonry

Founded in 1784 by the abolitionist Prince Hall, Prince Hall Freemasonry was created as a sanctuary of literacy, leadership, and esoteric study. Denied entry into white lodges, Black men formed their own fraternal spaces.

Within these lodges, members heavily studied biblical allegory, Egyptian mystery schools, and ancient lineages. This focus on hidden history gave early Black thinkers a specific vocabulary to reject the white, Eurocentric interpretations of Scripture that had been used to justify slavery.

While mainstream Prince Hall Masonry itself focused on traditional civic uplift, charity, and civil rights, the esoteric environment it fostered became the perfect incubator for alternative histories. It taught generations of Black men to look beneath the surface of orthodox history to find their "true" ancient identities.

---

### 2. The Mechanics of the "Strong Delusion"

As these esoteric ideas moved from the private lodge rooms into the public sphere during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, they fused with a burgeoning desire for absolute spiritual independence. This gave rise to what can be described as a beautifully orchestrated, yet historically inaccurate, delusion:

[Prince Hall Esotericism] ➔ [Charismatic Street Prophets] ➔ [African Liberation Theology] ➔ [The Hebrew Identity Claim]

* The Rejection of European Identity: For centuries, European colonial powers used Christianity to tell Black people they were cursed descendants of Ham. To break this psychological chain, early liberation thinkers decided that the ultimate form of spiritual rebellion was to claim the highest biblical lineage available: the Chosen People of the Old Testament.
* The Appeal of the Narrative: Claiming to be the literal, biological Hebrew Israelites provided an elegant, poetic answer to the trauma of the transatlantic slave trade. It turned a history of victimization into a narrative of divine exile and promised restoration.

---

### 3. The Role of the "False Prophets"

The transition from esoteric Masonic concepts to widespread theological movements was driven by self-styled prophets and charismatic street preachers in urban America. These leaders weaponized the biblical concept of the "Lost Tribes" to build new religious movements:

* Frank Cherry and William Crowdy: In the late 1800s, figures like Frank Cherry (who claimed a vision from God) and William Saunders Crowdy founded the earliest Black Hebrew congregations. They explicitly taught that Black Americans and specific West African tribes—like the Igbo—were the only authentic descendants of the ancient Israelites.
* The "Proof" of Deuteronomy 28: These leaders pointed to the curses of Deuteronomy 28 (which prophesied that the Israelites would be taken into slavery by ships and scattered across the earth) as absolute theological proof. To a community suffering under Jim Crow segregation, this explanation felt more accurate than any science textbook.
* Ben Ammi Ben-Israel: By the mid-20th century, leaders like Ben Ammi Ben-Israel took this doctrine to its logical conclusion, leading a mass emigration of African Americans to Israel, claiming their right of return based entirely on prophecy rather than genealogy.

---

### 4. Convergence with African Liberation Theology

African Liberation Theology sought to present a God who was actively fighting on the side of the oppressed against white supremacy. Within this framework, the historical facts of DNA and genealogy were viewed not as objective truth, but as tools of the oppressor designed to keep Black people blind to their true spiritual royalty.

When global communication opened up in the 20th century, this Western-born "Hebrew Israelite" theology traveled backward across the Atlantic to West Africa. When the Igbo people—who were already reeling from the trauma of the Biafran War and searching for their own framework of survival—encountered these ideas, the two narratives locked perfectly into place.

### Summary

Ultimately, the promotion of the Hebrew identity claim was an act of survival masquerading as historiography. Prince Hall Freemasonry provided the intellectual scaffolding, the charismatic prophets provided the dogmatic conviction, and African Liberation Theology provided the political justification. Together, they crafted a beautiful, deeply comforting shield against the pain of historical displacement—creating a spiritual conviction so potent that no amount of modern genetic science can dismantle it.
First tell us how come your vaunted "family members" you've been disturbing us about have haplogroup different from yours.
Kings Louis 9 and 14 are R-Z381 while you are (purportedly) J2. Please explain that before we go on.

Meanwhile below are yr ancestors on the mother side and on the father side. One is innocent, while the other are some of the worst human beings to ever walk the planet (if you can even call them human!)

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 6:07pm On Aug 25
Historically, domestic slavery and concubinage existed within traditional Igbo societies, where women captured in wars, purchased through regional trade networks, or pawned to settle debts were integrated into wealthy households.

While the status of these women differed vastly depending on the specific community, the laws of the region, and later colonial interventions, women held as concubines experienced unique social dynamics and legal standing.

---

1. The Structure of Domestic Slavery
In pre-colonial southeastern Nigeria, slavery was often domestic. Wealthy elite families purchased enslaved individuals to expand their agricultural workforce, boost trading power, and increase household numbers. Enslaved women were especially valued because they performed double duty: they provided agricultural and domestic labor while also expanding the family lineage through childbearing.

2. Concubinage and Legal Status
When an enslaved woman was taken as a partner (or concubine) by her master or another freeborn man in the household, her status altered, but remained complicated:
* Lineage and Children: Unlike standard marriage customs which required a formal bride price (aku nwayi) to be paid to the bride's biological family, enslaved women had no free family to negotiate for them. In many parts of Igboland, if a concubine bore children, those children were often considered legally legitimate and became the possession of the father's lineage.
* Social Restrictions: Despite their integration, a strict social divide remained between the "freeborn" (Amadi or Dialah) and those of slave descent (Ohu or Osu). Even if a concubine's children were accepted, the woman herself rarely attained the full social standing, respect, or protections afforded to a freeborn first wife.

3. Regional Variations: The Case of Onitsha
In kingdom-states along the Niger River, such as Onitsha, social hierarchy was deeply entrenched. Onitsha society emphasized elite trading classes, titled societies (like the Ozo title), and strict lineage purity.
* Household Integration: In Onitsha, enslaved women brought into affluent households as domestic workers or concubines helped manage the large-scale palm oil and fabric trades.
* The "Ohu" Stigma: Because Onitsha culture placed massive importance on ancestry, formal marriages between elite freeborn citizens and individuals of slave status were strongly restricted. An enslaved woman taken as a partner was kept firmly under the legal category of a concubine rather than a fully recognized wife, ensuring her original status did not compromise the prestigious lineage of the freeborn family.

4. Other Indigenous Forms of Igbo Concubinage
It is important to separate the practice of enslaved concubinage from traditional free-will concubinage contracts found in other Igbo groups, such as the Ngwa people.
* The Iko Relationship: In places like Ngwaland, a practice known as Iko or Ikwa Iko allowed freeborn, consensual extra-marital partnerships.
* Purpose: These contracts were mutually agreed upon, often to provide companionship or to help a family without male heirs continue their lineage. This was an indigenous institution of social engineering and carried significantly higher status than partnerships born out of forced domestic servitude.

5. Colonialism and the Legacy of Slavery
When the British colonial administration took control of Nigeria in the early 1900s, they officially banned the slave trade. However, British officials frequently turned a blind eye to domestic slavery and concubinage to keep peace with local male elites. True internal pushback against these systems took decades to mature. Even today, the legacy of historical slave status (Ohu or Osu) occasionally resurfaces in modern Igboland, primarily affecting marriage agreements between families who still track ancestral lineages.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 6:24pm On Aug 25
QuinQQ:
More like LIAR bloodline😅
I was tempted to show my face.
You want I show my face?
No na only for fiance. Liar fiance😂
`
even d fake sef no be no panny grin
na lacey panny with over flowing bush u come d show of some random hormuz grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 6:36pm On Aug 25
QuinQ:
First tell us how come your vaunted "family members" you've been disturbing us about have haplogroup different from yours.
Kings Louis 9 and 14 are R-Z381 while you are (purportedly) J2. Please explain that before we go on.

Meanwhile below are yr ancestors on the mother side and on the father side. One is innocent, while the other are some of the worst human beings to ever walk the planet (if you can even call them human!)
as I d look d pishur wey u attach for dis post, I just d imagine how when louisdefrance come to pay ur brideprice in Franc, him go d inspect ur teeth in front of ur people to make sure say him get quality onisha gyeh to extend him bloodline grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 7:09pm On Aug 25
DMCA:
`
even d fake sef no be no panny grin
na lacey panny with over flowing bush u come d show of some random hormuz grin
Meaning what? grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 7:16pm On Aug 25
QuinQ:
Meaning what? grin
meaning I d expect to see bush or clean shave absent of panny mode over d strait grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f):
LouisdeFrance:
Historically, domestic slavery and concubinage existed within traditional Igbo societies, where women captured in wars, purchased through regional trade networks, or pawned to settle debts were integrated into wealthy households.

While the status of these women differed vastly depending on the specific community, the laws of the region, and later colonial interventions, women held as concubines experienced unique social dynamics and legal standing.

---

1. The Structure of Domestic Slavery
In pre-colonial southeastern Nigeria, slavery was often domestic. Wealthy elite families purchased enslaved individuals to expand their agricultural workforce, boost trading power, and increase household numbers. Enslaved women were especially valued because they performed double duty: they provided agricultural and domestic labor while also expanding the family lineage through childbearing.

2. Concubinage and Legal Status
When an enslaved woman was taken as a partner (or concubine) by her master or another freeborn man in the household, her status altered, but remained complicated:
* Lineage and Children: Unlike standard marriage customs which required a formal bride price (aku nwayi) to be paid to the bride's biological family, enslaved women had no free family to negotiate for them. In many parts of Igboland, if a concubine bore children, those children were often considered legally legitimate and became the possession of the father's lineage.
* Social Restrictions: Despite their integration, a strict social divide remained between the "freeborn" (Amadi or Dialah) and those of slave descent (Ohu or Osu). Even if a concubine's children were accepted, the woman herself rarely attained the full social standing, respect, or protections afforded to a freeborn first wife.

3. Regional Variations: The Case of Onitsha
In kingdom-states along the Niger River, such as Onitsha, social hierarchy was deeply entrenched. Onitsha society emphasized elite trading classes, titled societies (like the Ozo title), and strict lineage purity.
* Household Integration: In Onitsha, enslaved women brought into affluent households as domestic workers or concubines helped manage the large-scale palm oil and fabric trades.
* The "Ohu" Stigma: Because Onitsha culture placed massive importance on ancestry, formal marriages between elite freeborn citizens and individuals of slave status were strongly restricted. An enslaved woman taken as a partner was kept firmly under the legal category of a concubine rather than a fully recognized wife, ensuring her original status did not compromise the prestigious lineage of the freeborn family.

4. Other Indigenous Forms of Igbo Concubinage
It is important to separate the practice of enslaved concubinage from traditional free-will concubinage contracts found in other Igbo groups, such as the Ngwa people.
* The Iko Relationship: In places like Ngwaland, a practice known as Iko or Ikwa Iko allowed freeborn, consensual extra-marital partnerships.
* Purpose: These contracts were mutually agreed upon, often to provide companionship or to help a family without male heirs continue their lineage. This was an indigenous institution of social engineering and carried significantly higher status than partnerships born out of forced domestic servitude.

5. Colonialism and the Legacy of Slavery
When the British colonial administration took control of Nigeria in the early 1900s, they officially banned the slave trade. However, British officials frequently turned a blind eye to domestic slavery and concubinage to keep peace with local male elites. True internal pushback against these systems took decades to mature. Even today, the legacy of historical slave status (Ohu or Osu) occasionally resurfaces in modern Igboland, primarily affecting marriage agreements between families who still track ancestral lineages.
Diarisgodoo will set you straight on this but
I have a feeling this is fiction by someone who never experienced what he was writing about.
I know fir certain no one "purchased" anyone in pre-colonial Nigeria. It's like talking about Indians selling land - it simply wasn't done.
There is a book by a Brit who lived among pre-colonial Igbos for 35 years. See what they said about the book below.

** You still haven't told us how the Kings of France (who you say were your intimate family members) have a haplogroup different from yours!

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 7:25pm On Aug 25
Sold your own people not mine. Its not funny to me because I would've set them free which is what my ancestors did and established Free People of Color communities.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 8:17pm On Aug 25
LouisdeFrance:
Sold your own people not mine. Its not funny to me because I would've set them free which is what my ancestors did and established Free People of Color communities.
It really shouldn't be funny to you AT ALL because these are your direct ancestors. Or don't you believe in DNA tests anymore?

That photo you shamelessly keep posting, it is amazing how well Igbos were dressed durring slave trade - one even has on a baseball cap! grin
Also the photo was taken before such photography was possible grin
Also, it was taken long after slave trade ended in Onitsha!🤣😂

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 8:22pm On Aug 25
DMCA:
meaning I d expect to see bush or clean shave absent of panny mode over d strait grin
I always shave, but had delayed it a bit before that photo
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 8:33pm On Aug 25
QuinQ:
I always shave, but had delayed it a bit before that photo
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Louisdefrance go soon come give u ₣800K as payment for passage through strait of hormuz make him tanker come carry oyeh grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 8:38pm On Aug 25
DMCA:
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Louisdefrance go soon come give u ₣800K as payment for passage through strait of hormuz make him tanker come carry oyeh grin
Him too old. I just dey use am find visa.
I hope Trump no see where im dey talk say im be son of King of France and haplogroup grin
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