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Poll: If a man refuses DNA test because he loves the child too much does that make him a simp?

Yes 66% (4 votes)
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Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 3:08pm On Sep 02
DiarisGodoo:
**The Genetic Profile of Louisiana & Mississippi Creole Men vs. Women**

### **1. Paternal Haplogroups (Men):**
- Most Louisiana/Mississippi Creole *men* belong to ** haplogroups** R1B, indicating strong European ancestry with a little bit of African and Mediterranean lineage:
> - Their Y-DNA traces back to mainly European origins…
>> But also some sub-Saharan African *(Source: DNA Studies)*

### **2. Maternal Haplogroups (Men):**
1) African Haplogroups (L0, L1, L2, L3): 90% maternal lines trace back to enslaved or free African women who lived in colonial Louisiana. Common specific sub-lineages include L1b1a, L2a1a, and L2a1, reflecting origins in West and Central Africa.
2) Native American Haplogroups (A2, B2, C1, D): About 10% of tested Creole lineages feature indigenous maternal markers.

### ***3**. Maternal Lineage (Women)***
> - Most Creole *women* carry African maternal haplogroups (**L1/L2/L3**)…
>> Just like the men, showing direct descent from enslaved and free West/Central Africans.

**The One-Drop Rule & Some Creole Men’s Foolishness: A Historical perspective**

### **1. The One-Drop Rule’s Impact:**
- Under *the one-drop rule* (a black unifying U.S. legal doctrine), Creole and other mixed non-Creole men—despite their mostly European ancestry—were classified as "Black" :
> - Their mixed heritage notwithstanding …
>> Making many mixed no longer ambivalent but now fully and unequivocally African Americans! *(Source: Civil Rights History)*

### ***2**. Social Consequences***
This meant:
> - Fighting alongside other African Americans against systemic racism…
>> Instead of being ambivalent as to where they belong and if they are "really Black"!
### ***Some Creole men foolishly cling to light skin inherited from slave masters instead of seeing that the fight is against the racist and discriminatory establishment**. ***
You're still thinking our light tan skin came from mixing as if the only two kinds of people are dark skinned and pale skinned. That's the binary affect. Yall also take this same position with Ethiopians and denounce them as true Africans because as you say they're mixed. If half igbo land is Onitsha then you are mixed. Some of you are mixed with Yoruba and Fulani. There is no such thing as pure black because black is just a caste. There is no such thing as a biological race.
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 3:11pm On Sep 02
DiarisGodoo:
I think so too. He is now just trying to save a little face
I am here educating the other people that read this conversation . You serve a purpose which is to help highlight the ignorance that plaques alot of minds. There are no Black or White Hebrews. There is no black or white jesus.
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:45pm On Sep 02
LouisdeFrance:
I am here educating the other people that read this conversation . You serve a purpose which is to help highlight the ignorance that plaques alot of minds. There are no Black or White Hebrews. There is no black or white jesus.
This is like someone guarding his front door while his backdoor is wide open.😅🤣
He doesn't know that Creole DNA test results are all over the internet! See some below😅
And all these lies to what end exactly? There are no colours yet you're all about colour. So much so that you claim Alessandro Medici that has nothing to do with you simply because of colour.
How many dark-skinned Creoles have you ever posted? Colorism is truly a disease - a disease that can be worse than racism!

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:53pm On Sep 02
DiarisGodoo:
I think so too. He is now just trying to save a little face
I want to allow him save a little face but he keeps posting the same LIES!!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:56pm On Sep 02
DiarisGodoo:
Assuming there were any North Africans at all in colonial Louisiana, so somehow your bloodline stayed endogamous to it and managed to avoid all those mixings of West African, European, and a little bit of Indian. Okay o.
According to DNA results posted online there were virtually none. Everything is same West and Central Africa
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:57pm On Sep 02
DiarisGodoo:
On the contrary, all they did was fight against slave raiders organized and armed by Europeans, so much so that Europeans haven't been able to.write it out of history. Though they have managed to convince casual observers like you that Africans were literally begging them to buy people.
LouisdeFrance google this below

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:59pm On Sep 02
DiarisGodoo:
**The Genetic Profile of Louisiana & Mississippi Creole Men vs. Women**

### **1. Paternal Haplogroups (Men):**
- Most Louisiana/Mississippi Creole *men* belong to ** haplogroups** R1B, indicating strong European ancestry with a little bit of African and Mediterranean lineage:
> - Their Y-DNA traces back to mainly European origins…
>> But also some sub-Saharan African *(Source: DNA Studies)*

### **2. Maternal Haplogroups (Men):**
1) African Haplogroups (L0, L1, L2, L3): 90% maternal lines trace back to enslaved or free African women who lived in colonial Louisiana. Common specific sub-lineages include L1b1a, L2a1a, and L2a1, reflecting origins in West and Central Africa.
2) Native American Haplogroups (A2, B2, C1, D): About 10% of tested Creole lineages feature indigenous maternal markers.

### ***3**. Maternal Lineage (Women)***
> - Most Creole *women* carry African maternal haplogroups (**L1/L2/L3**)…
>> Just like the men, showing direct descent from enslaved and free West/Central Africans.

**The One-Drop Rule & Some Creole Men’s Foolishness: A Historical perspective**

### **1. The One-Drop Rule’s Impact:**
- Under *the one-drop rule* (a black unifying U.S. legal doctrine), Creole and other mixed non-Creole men—despite their mostly European ancestry—were classified as "Black" :
> - Their mixed heritage notwithstanding …
>> Making many mixed no longer ambivalent but now fully and unequivocally African Americans! *(Source: Civil Rights History)*

### ***2**. Social Consequences***
This meant:
> - Fighting alongside other African Americans against systemic racism…
>> Instead of being ambivalent as to where they belong and if they are "really Black"!
### ***Some Creole men foolishly cling to light skin inherited from slave masters instead of seeing that the fight is against the racist and discriminatory establishment**. ***
grin grin grin
He carefully avoids mentioning Creole men's maternal haplogroups.
SHAME!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 5:07pm On Sep 02
DiarisGodoo:
These videos perfectly illustrate the above

https://youtube.com/shorts/O4HosaqhVrA?si=rYigh6mJyzoVaF1y

https://youtube.com/shorts/q4BijtK8YfU?si=ZswFHiAxJe0rMWQ2
That second video especially. Instead of fighting the culprits, he's busy fighting the victims!
Shame!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 5:10pm On Sep 02
DMCA:
why e go get rainbow colors
maybe louisdefrance secret-ly tell u say him like am.
na LGBTQIA+ vibe be dat angry
shaa na to pull am drill d LQBTQIA commot from wetin e cover cool
H'about this one? One of my favorites

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by DMCA: 7:37pm On Sep 02
QuinQ:
H'about this one? One of my favorites
kiss kiss kiss
Make sure u wear am on perverts day cool
third Friday of January cool
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 8:35pm On Sep 02
DMCA:
kiss kiss kiss
Make sure u wear am on perverts day cool
third Friday of January cool
I googled it. It's actually true.
How come you know such a thing?? Hmmm

On another note LouisdeFrance has finally shut up.
He doesn't know Creole men have their DNA test results posted all over the internet and they all say West/Central Africa, while he's here shouting Mediterranean! grin

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLK1MqQvqC6/?igsi=MWhmb3c1eWhpcnI1cg==
This is what every Creole person says - they're an admixture, multi-racial, and they all have West African blood.
Every one of them - except Louis!

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 9:37pm On Sep 02
QuinQ:
This is like someone guarding his front door while his backdoor is wide open.😅🤣
He doesn't know that Creole DNA test results are all over the internet! See some below😅
And all these lies to what end exactly? There are no colours yet you're all about colour. So much so that you claim Alessandro Medici that has nothing to do with you simply because of colour.
How many dark-skinned Creoles have you ever posted? Colorism is truly a disease - a disease that can be worse than racism!
So you use science when its convenient but you misuse it.


The critique that autosomal DNA tests are used to reify the false concept of race is a major area of discussion among geneticists, anthropologists, and bioethicists. From a modern scientific standpoint, race is a social construct, not a biological reality. Human genetic variation is continuous and clinal, meaning it changes gradually across geographic space rather than being divided into discrete, natural categories. grin
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 9:41pm On Sep 02
QuinQ:
LouisdeFrance google this below
Various forms of servitude, captive trading, and conflict-driven capture existed in parts of the African continent thousands of years before the transatlantic slave trade began.

### Ancient Roots of Servitude
* **Ancient Egypt:** Enslaved laborers and war captives were part of the economic and social structure over 4,000 years ago.
* **North and East Africa:** Civilizations like Carthage, Nubia, and the Axumite Kingdom utilized captive labor and participated in regional trade networks.
* **Internal Dynamics:** Most early African societies held captives taken during regional wars or used servitude as a way to integrate outsiders into a community.

### Trade Networks Before Europeans
* **Trans-Saharan Routes:** For centuries, West African kingdoms traded goods and captives across the Sahara desert to North Africa and the Middle East.
* **Indian Ocean Trade:** Coastal East African communities traded with Arab, Persian, and Indian merchants long before the 1500s.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 10:01pm On Sep 02
DiarisGodoo:
These videos perfectly illustrate the above

https://youtube.com/shorts/O4HosaqhVrA?si=rYigh6mJyzoVaF1y

https://youtube.com/shorts/q4BijtK8YfU?si=ZswFHiAxJe0rMWQ2
Genetically, the Igbo people of Nigeria are overwhelmingly West African with no significant Middle Eastern or Levantine ancestry.

### Genetic Evidence
* Sub-Saharan Lineages: Scientific and population genetic studies show that the DNA of the Igbo people aligns directly with indigenous West African populations.
* Lack of Semitic Markers: Comprehensive genetic testing—including studies done by external organizations—shows a complete lack of the distinct Middle Eastern or Levantine genetic markers that would support claims of descent from the ancient Israelites.
* Insignificant Trace Admixture: While individual consumer DNA tests occasionally show tiny trace percentages (often 1% to 2%) of Middle Eastern or North African DNA, geneticists attribute these minor readings to statistical noise, distant background migration, or the limitations of modern reference databases rather than a shared ancestral origin.

### Historical and Cultural Context
* Origin Theories: Scholars generally categorize Igbo origins through autochthonous models (originating in their present location) or internal West African migrations, discounting external migration theories from Egypt or Israel.
* The Igbo-Israelite Claim: Beliefs connecting the Igbo to a "lost tribe of Israel" are largely cultural and religious rather than biological, emerging strongly during and after the colonial period.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 2:32am On Sep 03
LouisdeFrance:
Various forms of servitude, captive trading, and conflict-driven capture existed in parts of the African continent thousands of years before the transatlantic slave trade began.

### Ancient Roots of Servitude
* **Ancient Egypt:** Enslaved laborers and war captives were part of the economic and social structure over 4,000 years ago.
* **North and East Africa:** Civilizations like Carthage, Nubia, and the Axumite Kingdom utilized captive labor and participated in regional trade networks.
* **Internal Dynamics:** Most early African societies held captives taken during regional wars or used servitude as a way to integrate outsiders into a community.

### Trade Networks Before Europeans
* **Trans-Saharan Routes:** For centuries, West African kingdoms traded goods and captives across the Sahara desert to North Africa and the Middle East.
* **Indian Ocean Trade:** Coastal East African communities traded with Arab, Persian, and Indian merchants long before the 1500s.
This is King Duke IX of Calabar with his family (as opposed to your FAKE great²² grand father Louis IX), trying to look tough grin

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 2:48am On Sep 03
LouisdeFrance:
So you use science when its convenient but you misuse it.


The critique that autosomal DNA tests are used to reify the false concept of race is a major area of discussion among geneticists, anthropologists, and bioethicists. From a modern scientific standpoint, race is a social construct, not a biological reality. Human genetic variation is continuous and clinal, meaning it changes gradually across geographic space rather than being divided into discrete, natural categories. grin
You the one lying about science all over the place. If DiarisGodoo didn't highlight it you'd have fooled people into believing Creole men don't have maternal haplogroups. Internet is full of Creole DNA tests, produce one without West African DNA.

Yes, everything is on a spectrum, including race, but we all know where it breaks. Example, we know the point we say someone is short or tall or medium, or when someone is fat or skinny or average, etc. So also, we know when someone is "white" or "black" or mixed (without the one-drop rule). Just because there is a spectrum doesn’t mean it doesn't exist

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 4:19am On Sep 03
QuinQ:
You the one lying about science all over the place. If DiarisGodoo didn't highlight it you'd have fooled people into believing Creole men don't have maternal haplogroups. Internet is full of Creole DNA tests, produce one without West African DNA.

Yes, everything is on a spectrum, including race, but we all know where it breaks. Example, we know the point we say someone is short or tall or medium, or when someone is fat or skinny or average, etc. So also, we know when someone is "white" or "black" or mixed (without the one-drop rule). Just because there is a spectrum doesn’t mean it doesn't exist
No, race does not exist biologically.Modern genetics, anthropology, and the American Association of Physical Anthropologists agree that humans are not divided into distinct biological races or genetic groups.Why Race Is Not BiologicalGenetic similarity: All humans share over 99% of their DNA. The genetic differences between individuals are very small.Variation within groups: There is more genetic variation within any single local population than there is between different population groups.Continuous traits (Clines): Physical traits like skin color change gradually across geographic distances rather than stopping at strict borders. Skin color is a surface adaptation to ultraviolet light, not a marker of deep genetic separation.No distinct boundaries: It is impossible to draw a clear line where one human race ends and another begins.


Now you want another reputation orher than your ancestors who sold their own people to total strangers.


Look at the phot of Creole men when photography first came out? They're in suits and West Africans are in chains. If this is what bothers you then blame your ancestors not Creole men. What ever happened to taking responsibility for one's actions?



Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 7:04am On Sep 03
LouisdeFrance:
No, race does not exist biologically.Modern genetics, anthropology, and the American Association of Physical Anthropologists agree that humans are not divided into distinct biological races or genetic groups.Why Race Is Not BiologicalGenetic similarity: All humans share over 99% of their DNA. The genetic differences between individuals are very small.Variation within groups: There is more genetic variation within any single local population than there is between different population groups.Continuous traits (Clines): Physical traits like skin color change gradually across geographic distances rather than stopping at strict borders. Skin color is a surface adaptation to ultraviolet light, not a marker of deep genetic separation.No distinct boundaries: It is impossible to draw a clear line where one human race ends and another begins.


Now you want another reputation orher than your ancestors who sold their own people to total strangers.


Look at the phot of Creole men when photography first came out? They're in suits and West Africans are in chains. If this is what bothers you then blame your ancestors not Creole men. What ever happened to taking responsibility for one's actions?
So why do you keep posting Shem/Ham/Japhet? Only in your hypocrisy does race not exist. In real life no one would mistake you for Chinese!

You lie about every single thing. I never seen anyone that lies this much. A photo that was taken in the 1940s and the men look like ghosts. I'd advise you to stop posting that photo - it really doesn't look good at all. That's what endogamy produces. Look beyond the suits, those are NOT good looking guys. Their original matriarch is like Madam Coin-coin and they are endogamous with her children.
Stop making a fool of you, photography was invented long after end of slave trade.
LIES LIES LIES everywhere!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 1:25pm On Sep 03
QuinQ:
So why do you keep posting Shem/Ham/Japhet? Only in your hypocrisy does race not exist. In real life no one would mistake you for Chinese!

You lie about every single thing. I never seen anyone that lies this much. A photo that was taken in the 1940s and the men look like ghosts. I'd advise you to stop posting that photo - it really doesn't look good at all. That's what endogamy produces. Look beyond the suits, those are NOT good looking guys. Their original matriarch is like Madam Coin-coin and they are endogamous with her children.
Stop making a fool of you, photography was invented long after end of slave trade.
LIES LIES LIES everywhere!
I keep posting Shem, Ham and Yapeth because father's lineage exists and father's inheritance is even the law in Igboland. grin

You're a bloody Prince Hall Feeemason and you don't represent Igboland. You are the one that is a liar.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQQ(op): 1:55pm On Sep 03
LouisdeFrance:
I keep posting Shem, Ham and Yapeth because father's lineage exists and father's inheritance is even the law in Igboland. grin

You're a bloody Prince Hall Feeemason and you don't represent Igboland. You are the one that is a liar.
So why do you keep emphasizing their colours? Even after it was shown to you that Ham was NOT black and has nothing to do with Africa (see below). Such a total hypocrite and liar.

Do you ever consider the CIRCUMSTANCES whereby this father's lineage you are so proud of came about??! Do you think a child should be inordinately proud of a father's line he came about that way?

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 1:56pm On Sep 03
You can never destroy the truth and take what doesn't belong to you. Dark skinned Sub Saharan African men did not rule over Europe. Light skinned men of Semitic origins ruled over Europe.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 3:41pm On Sep 03
Its not that they love the pale skinned British people so much that they're willing to lie and distort his history but its for their own soiled reputation they seek to steal what doesn't belong to them. And its not so much so that it matters what myths they believe or create its the attacks upon the Creole people which are the highlight of our oppression. You see, they have to reduce us to nothing more than victims of rape by pale skinned slave owners and self hating mixed people who deny blackness. Yet this lie falls apart when the truth is told that Creole men are the direct paternal descendants of French, Spanish, Italians and Portuguese men that were light skinned like we are today.


And the fact we were always free people who used our wealth and resources to liberate some of them. We have never abandoned liberty but most importantly Creole do not have the reputation of enslaving free people and sell them away. We do not have the reputation of aligning with the evil British Empire and making treaties them the way their ancestors did at the disservice of their own brethren. Even the famous artist Fela Kumi talks about the Traitors of Africa who collaborated with the coloniers. So even today they are proud sworn members of the British Freemasonry through Prince Hall and Scottish Rites.





Freemasons, homosexuals and corrupt elites in Cameroon – inside an African conspiracy theory
Published: December 12, 2024 9:37am EST




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An unusual and fascinating new book has been written by two anthropologists, called Conspiracy Narratives from Postcolonial Africa: Freemasonry, Homosexuality, and Illicit Enrichment. It explores an ongoing conspiracy theory in Cameroon and neighbouring Gabon that corrupt elites spread homosexuality through their connections to secret orders like the Freemasons. They trace the origins of the conspiracy theory to a moral panic in Cameroon in 2005. They then move back in time to understand what it all means. We asked the authors to tell us more.

What sparked the moral panic in Cameroon?
On Christmas day in 2005 the archbishop of Yaoundé, Cameroon’s capital, the famously homophobic Victor Tonye Bakot, surprised the nation with a sermon attacking the national elite. He accused them of spreading homosexuality by forcing anal sex on young men eager to get a job.

The sermon was all the more surprising since the archbishop spoke in the Yaoundé cathedral with the nation’s leaders right in front of him, including then president Paul Biya. It offered a new variation of the Catholic church’s attacks on Freemasonry.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:25pm On Sep 03
LouisdeFrance:
Its not that they love the pale skinned British people so much that they're willing to lie and distort his history but its for their own soiled reputation they seek to steal what doesn't belong to them. And its not so much so that it matters what myths they believe or create its the attacks upon the Creole people which are the highlight of our oppression. You see, they have to reduce us to nothing more than victims of rape by pale skinned slave owners and self hating mixed people who deny blackness. Yet this lie falls apart when the truth is told that Creole men are the direct paternal descendants of French, Spanish, Italians and Portuguese men that were light skinned like we are today.


And the fact we were always free people who used our wealth and resources to liberate some of them. We have never abandoned liberty but most importantly Creole do not have the reputation of enslaving free people and sell them away. We do not have the reputation of aligning with the evil British Empire and making treaties them the way their ancestors did at the disservice of their own brethren. Even the famous artist Fela Kumi talks about the Traitors of Africa who collaborated with the coloniers. So even today they are proud sworn members of the British Freemasonry through Prince Hall and Scottish Rites.





Freemasons, homosexuals and corrupt elites in Cameroon – inside an African conspiracy theory
Published: December 12, 2024 9:37am EST




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An unusual and fascinating new book has been written by two anthropologists, called Conspiracy Narratives from Postcolonial Africa: Freemasonry, Homosexuality, and Illicit Enrichment. It explores an ongoing conspiracy theory in Cameroon and neighbouring Gabon that corrupt elites spread homosexuality through their connections to secret orders like the Freemasons. They trace the origins of the conspiracy theory to a moral panic in Cameroon in 2005. They then move back in time to understand what it all means. We asked the authors to tell us more.

What sparked the moral panic in Cameroon?
On Christmas day in 2005 the archbishop of Yaoundé, Cameroon’s capital, the famously homophobic Victor Tonye Bakot, surprised the nation with a sermon attacking the national elite. He accused them of spreading homosexuality by forcing anal sex on young men eager to get a job.

The sermon was all the more surprising since the archbishop spoke in the Yaoundé cathedral with the nation’s leaders right in front of him, including then president Paul Biya. It offered a new variation of the Catholic church’s attacks on Freemasonry.
All this stuff you keep writing about masonry would make sense if we didn't know some people who are freemasons and some who are not. We know Shaquille is. We know Jeffery Epstein is not!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:28pm On Sep 03
LouisdeFrance:
You can never destroy the truth and take what doesn't belong to you. Dark skinned Sub Saharan African men did not rule over Europe. Light skinned men of Semitic origins ruled over Europe.
How did you become such a low colorist?
Do you know lots of Creoles are dark-skinned?
Why are you all about something as superficial as colour? Don't you know this is entirely because of the country you're from and grew in?
Do you know in Nigeria the only time people see skin colour is who they instinctively are personally (sexually) attracted to? Usually light skinned are attracted to dark, and dark-skinned are attracted to light.
Other than that, skin colour doesn't register in anything else. We literally won't see this your light colour, it will be totally meaningless. Our only question will be what tribe you're from!
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 4:36pm On Sep 03
LouisdeFrance:
Its not that they love the pale skinned British people so much that they're willing to lie and distort his history but its for their own soiled reputation they seek to steal what doesn't belong to them. And its not so much so that it matters what myths they believe or create its the attacks upon the Creole people which are the highlight of our oppression. You see, they have to reduce us to nothing more than victims of rape by pale skinned slave owners and self hating mixed people who deny blackness. Yet this lie falls apart when the truth is told that Creole men are the direct paternal descendants of French, Spanish, Italians and Portuguese men that were light skinned like we are today.


And the fact we were always free people who used our wealth and resources to liberate some of them. We have never abandoned liberty but most importantly Creole do not have the reputation of enslaving free people and sell them away. We do not have the reputation of aligning with the evil British Empire and making treaties them the way their ancestors did at the disservice of their own brethren. Even the famous artist Fela Kumi talks about the Traitors of Africa who collaborated with the coloniers. So even today they are proud sworn members of the British Freemasonry through Prince Hall and Scottish Rites.





Freemasons, homosexuals and corrupt elites in Cameroon – inside an African conspiracy theory
Published: December 12, 2024 9:37am EST




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An unusual and fascinating new book has been written by two anthropologists, called Conspiracy Narratives from Postcolonial Africa: Freemasonry, Homosexuality, and Illicit Enrichment. It explores an ongoing conspiracy theory in Cameroon and neighbouring Gabon that corrupt elites spread homosexuality through their connections to secret orders like the Freemasons. They trace the origins of the conspiracy theory to a moral panic in Cameroon in 2005. They then move back in time to understand what it all means. We asked the authors to tell us more.

What sparked the moral panic in Cameroon?
On Christmas day in 2005 the archbishop of Yaoundé, Cameroon’s capital, the famously homophobic Victor Tonye Bakot, surprised the nation with a sermon attacking the national elite. He accused them of spreading homosexuality by forcing anal sex on young men eager to get a job.

The sermon was all the more surprising since the archbishop spoke in the Yaoundé cathedral with the nation’s leaders right in front of him, including then president Paul Biya. It offered a new variation of the Catholic church’s attacks on Freemasonry.
But there were lots of white-on-black rapes and coerced sex and prostitution, all without condom, in Louisiana, resulting in lots of illegitimate children (the b-word). Do you agree with that?
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LouisdeFrance: 6:08pm On Sep 03
QuinQ:
How did you become such a low colorist?
Do you know lots of Creoles are dark-skinned?
Why are you all about something as superficial as colour? Don't you know this is entirely because of the country you're from and grew in?
Do you know in Nigeria the only time people see skin colour is who they instinctively are personally (sexually) attracted to? Usually light skinned are attracted to dark, and dark-skinned are attracted to light.
Other than that, skin colour doesn't register in anything else. We literally won't see this your light colour, it will be totally meaningless. Our only question will be what tribe you're from!
There's Creoles of all shades but they started as Southern European tan skinned men. grin Dark-skinned men nor pale skinned men fathered Creole men. No dark skinned Sub Saharan Africans ever ruled Spain let alone France founded by my forefathers.

All you Igbos that claim you are Moors and Israelites are Prince Hall Freemasons helping British people suppress our history.

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f):
LouisdeFrance:
There's Creoles of all shades but they started as Southern European tan skinned men. grin Dark-skinned men nor pale skinned men fathered Creole men. No dark skinned Sub Saharan Africans ever ruled Spain let alone France founded by my forefathers.

All you Igbos that claim you are Moors and Israelites are Prince Hall Freemasons helping British people suppress our history.
Ok, so what happened to all these b-word kids below?
Madam Coincoin was the matriarch founder of rhe Cane River Creole community. Were her children also from tan people from Europe? grin

QuinQ:
But there were lots of white-on-black rapes and coerced sex and prostitution, all without condom, in Louisiana, resulting in lots of illegitimate children (the b-word). Do you agree with that?

Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by FreeIgboho: 9:46pm On Sep 03
QuinQ:
Ok, so what happened to all these b-word kids below?
Madam Coincoin was the matriarch founder of rhe Cane River Creole community. Were her children also from tan people from Europe? grin
Not getting drawn into your discussion cum fight but French people generally have darker features (eyes and hair) than the Brits and other Northern Europeans. But they still slept with African women to produce Creoles.
Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by QuinQ(f): 11:45pm On Sep 03
FreeIgboho:
Not getting drawn into your discussion cum fight but French people generally have darker features (eyes and hair) than the Brits and other Northern Europeans. But they still slept with African women to produce Creoles.
Not just African women, WEST African women!
I have N1m for anybody who can produce a Creole of Colour DNA result with zero West Africa.
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