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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 10:05pm On Sep 15
Bombblacks:
De Zerbi what the hell is going on. You might actually get sacked.
Read somewhere that he's been given 3 games to save himself.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 10:58pm On Sep 15
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Them dn kill us finish for Twitter.. Since Sunday, can't count how many banter materials they've used on us

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa:
If only we didnt put ourselves under unnecessary pressure, this Carabao cup fixture would have been a perfect opportunity for fringe players to get some valuable minutes.

Mehn - i miss the good old fergie days.

Below lineup would be leading 2-0 by the 70th minute mark

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:55am On Sep 16
larride:
Just saw that our player had a day off yesterday. We lost on Sunday with one of the lethargic display ever, we have a match on Wednesday and our players are getting a day off training.

We then wonder why our players are so slow and play like imbecil3s.

What a club.
It’s ridiculous. A day off when the next game is tomorrow. Not even a light training session. This ‘jelenke’ style of management will not help us at all. wtf!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 1:05am On Sep 16
afrodoc2:
JJ Gabriel demands to leave the club. It was always going to happen.
That is going to be a very big loss if he actually moves away from United. Kid is definitely talented and the situation of your club, especially at this moment makes it an easy decision for his family to make.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:33am On Sep 16
Roland17:
That is going to be a very big loss if he actually moves away from United. Kid is definitely talented and the situation of your club, especially at this moment makes it an easy decision for his family to make.
Yeah, it is a loss.

I don't think the club did anything wrong in his particular situation to make him leave cos the club has been bending over backwards for a while now to accommodate his dad's wishes. Some might even say the club was far too accommodating of them.

The boy was for a short period with you guys, and then Chelsea, and then West Ham, and then joined us all before he turned 12. His father is notorious for his antics and i have touched on it several times here.

Having said that, an impartial assessment is that he might be making the right decision for his career. It all depends on where he ends up next. We have mismanaged a lot of talented academy players of late and when they flop people will start saying that they were never good in the first place.

IMO if he ends up at Barca, City, Bayern, or even with you guys his football development would be better, and his father won't have the cachet to be making ridiculous demands at such well-run clubs. The 2 clubs that would be mistakes are Real Madrid and Chelsea. Those are our ogas in terms of mismanaging young talent.

The whole situation is just indicative of our current place in the footballing world where a 15yr old unproven player and his father think that they are doing us a favor. The father does not rate us and was always going to try to move the boy to a club he thinks is bigger and better either this year or next year. It is what it is.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 5:21am On Sep 16
nitrogen:
It’s ridiculous. A day off when the next game is tomorrow. Not even a light training session. This ‘jelenke’ style of management will not help us at all. wtf!
Carrick and the club are not serious.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 5:23am On Sep 16
afrodoc2:
Yeah, it is a loss.

I don't think the club did anything wrong in his particular situation to make him leave cos the club has been bending over backwards for a while now to accommodate his dad's wishes. Some might even say the club was far too accommodating of them.

The boy was for a short period with you guys, and then Chelsea, and then West Ham, and then joined us all before he turned 12. His father is notorious for his antics and i have touched on it several times here.

Having said that, an impartial assessment is that he might be making the right decision for his career. It all depends on where he ends up next. We have mismanaged a lot of talented academy players of late and when they flop people will start saying that they were never good in the first place.

IMO if he ends up at Barca, City, Bayern, or even with you guys his football development would be better, and his father won't have the cachet to be making ridiculous demands at such well-run clubs. The 2 clubs that would be mistakes are Real Madrid and Chelsea. Those are our ogas in terms of mismanaging young talent.

The whole situation is just indicative of our current place in the footballing world where a 15yr old unproven player and his father think that they are doing us a favor. The father does not rate us and was always going try to move the boy to a club he thinks is bigger and better either this year or next year. It is what it is.
His situation reminds me of A. Guler’s transfer (in terms of parental influence) where the kid’s heart was at Milan but his dad shopped him until he steered him to Madrid and so far to be fair it has worked, considering the amount of playing time he has gotten under the different coaches that have come and gone.

I have to agree with you that he may be making the right decision for his career considering he turns 16 this year I believe. I was telling someone last year that gone are the days academy players wait until they turn 18-20 before they get first team opportunities. Today, special talents need to see a clear path to the first team in a stable environment and that isn’t the situation at United. At 16, special talents while being patient should be involved in first team actions. They have also become decisive about their future and this is another example.

Chelsea will kill and waste the talent. He will essentially be a commodity with no effort in actually developing him. I still think under the right circumstances, United is still the best place for him to develop. Arsenal under Arteta may not offer him that path to the first team immediately, he’d have to be patient because right now we are trophy hunting. You’d have to be extremely patient as an academy player to get into Arteta’s plan and he is quite specific about the kind of young players he works with and I don’t know if JJ expressive abilities on the ball would necessarily work. We can see what he is doing with some aspects of Dowman’s game, making him more direct, decisive and intentional with the ball.

JJ’s path to the first team is easier for you guys but your unstable situation, especially with the high coaching turnover is just the hinderance. If you guys had some stability with your coaching position and a strong coach at that, then he may consider but right now, all your young talents are jumping ship.

I’d say Dortmund (System & Stable), PSG (Stable & Coach), Roma (Coach), Arsenal (Stable), Barcelona (Stable, System and Coach)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 5:32am On Sep 16
afrodoc2:
Yeah, it is a loss.

I don't think the club did anything wrong in his particular situation to make him leave cos the club has been bending over backwards for a while now to accommodate his dad's wishes. Some might even say the club was far too accommodating of them.

The boy was for a short period with you guys, and then Chelsea, and then West Ham, and then joined us all before he turned 12. His father is notorious for his antics and i have touched on it several times here.

Having said that, an impartial assessment is that he might be making the right decision for his career. It all depends on where he ends up next. We have mismanaged a lot of talented academy players of late and when they flop people will start saying that they were never good in the first place.

IMO if he ends up at Barca, City, Bayern, or even with you guys his football development would be better, and his father won't have the cachet to be making ridiculous demands at such well-run clubs. The 2 clubs that would be mistakes are Real Madrid and Chelsea. Those are our ogas in terms of mismanaging young talent.

The whole situation is just indicative of our current place in the footballing world where a 15yr old unproven player and his father think that they are doing us a favor. The father does not rate us and was always going to try to move the boy to a club he thinks is bigger and better either this year or next year. It is what it is.
I agree doc, the way we have been mismanaging our academy players, if I was his dad too, I will fight to get him elsewhere asap before the club loan him out to Rotherham in League one.

It's only this club I know that send out it's talented academy boys on loan to unknown improvised club in league one or league two calling it development. No wonder we end up selling them for £1m and below. A very useless board.

INEOS and Glazers will fully run this club into the ground, every aspect of the club is in ruins currently including the female team. Might not take a little time before talented academy players refuses to sign with us.

See Chidi Obi that should be on the team as back up CF or even loaned out to a correct team was sent to Willem II in Netherlands, I'm not sure he has played 90mins of football since the loan. If I be J.J Gabriel papa, I will pack my boy bags without even informing the club.


Meanwhile I'm still waiting for your response.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by popizaino(m): 7:00am On Sep 16
UncleHaba22:
Nobody is even talking about how Bruno Fernandes was just spamming balls against city

Omo Manchester United is on a long thing
Tielemans can't start a game when Baleba gets fit
Maybe that might help a bit

But Fernandes is a fraud man
He can't even try anything aside spamming balls like he's fighting war with football
What do you want him to do?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 7:18am On Sep 16
#CarrickOUT
#TrashfordOUT
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:46am On Sep 16
popizaino:
What do you want him to do?
LooL. This is what happens when you watch highlights alone and not the full game.

That this pass found its man doesn’t mean there weren’t at least 5 other haram-insha-allah- boomba-esque passes that were ridiculous and failed to connect in that Manchester derby.

Bruno is brilliant and all, but his lack of control over his emotions is a major issue. He’s one of the reasons we’re heavily transitional— because he can’t cool the f down to dictate tempo and find the right times for the right passes. He’s always itching to throw that killer pass, and that unguarded recklessness is why some fans are upset with him.

That doesn’t mean I want us to throw him away. He’s still our best player and we have to make do with what we have, at least until we get improvements all over the pitch and don’t need to rely this much on him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:12am On Sep 16
Bombblacks:
The headline alone is laughable, and some United fans are siding with the little shithead. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
I am surprised. If there's one thing you can't label against the club, it is giving opportunities to youngsters who are good enough.

From the moment Doc first mentioned the kid and talked about his Dad, I knew he wouldn't last here. We don't need all that drama; the kid can go where he pleases. That's how Rashford went to Barcelona and humbled himself, but when he gets to Old Trafford, he begins to act too big...

Let's see what becomes of him when he goes to Barcelona or City, where they have other amazing youngsters. He will be in for a surprise when he realizes that he won't get all the attention he is attracting now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:21am On Sep 16
Bruno's job is to find space between the lines, progress attacks, quality final balls, assists and contributing goals.

Hold Mainoo and others c. midfielders responsible if we cant dictate tempo.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 9:21am On Sep 16
Jamiuokolaa:
If only we didnt put ourselves under unnecessary pressure, this Carabao cup fixture would have been a perfect opportunity for fringe players to get some valuable minutes.

Mehn - i miss the good old fergie days.

Below lineup would be leading 2-0 by the 70th minute mark
Mount should be sold
That guy is very unreliable..
Tufiakwa
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 9:24am On Sep 16
Mrviktor:
Mount should be sold
That guy is very unreliable..
Tufiakwa
I agree..

Same with Lisandro Martinez and maybe De ligt.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 9:24am On Sep 16
Then there's Patrick chinazaperem dorgu

The failed winger
Failed defender.

I blame his defensive insecurities now to Carrick forcing him to play left wing.
And making him feel like he is him

So horrible at everything.
Crossing 0
Marking 0
Shooting good
Speed decent
iQ of a snail
Footballing IQ of a ball boy

He just chases the ball and has no idea what is happening around him

They better put dalot at left back. And let mazz play right back
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:25am On Sep 16
popizaino:
What do you want him to do?

He should have taught Mbeumo that he can take another touch/step before either roofing the ball or going for a low driven shot into the corner.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:28am On Sep 16
Jamiuokolaa:
I agree..

Same with Lisandro Martinez and maybe De ligt.
Thats our best defender.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jamiuokolaa: 9:32am On Sep 16
Expert17:
Thats our best defender.
With a well documented track record of injuries and fitness issues
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:36am On Sep 16
UncleHaba22:
Nobody is even talking about how Bruno Fernandes was just spamming balls against city

Omo Manchester United is on a long thing
Tielemans can't start a game when Baleba gets fit
Maybe that might help a bit

But Fernandes is a fraud man
He can't even try anything aside spamming balls like he's fighting war with football
With no fewer than 100 words, explain why professional footballers voted for the fraud as the best player in the world best league
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by popizaino(m):
Leyqute:
LooL. This is what happens when you watch highlights alone and not the full game.

That this pass found its man doesn’t mean there weren’t at least 5 other haram-insha-allah- boomba-esque passes that were ridiculous and failed to connect in that Manchester derby.

Bruno is brilliant and all, but his lack of control over his emotions is a major issue. He’s one of the reasons we’re heavily transitional— because he can’t cool the f down to dictate tempo and find the right times for the right passes. He’s always itching to throw that killer pass, and that unguarded recklessness is why some fans are upset with him.

That doesn’t mean I want us to throw him away. He’s still our best player and we have to make do with what we have, at least until we get improvements all over the pitch and don’t need to rely this much on him.
Bro.i watched the full game and was rooting for your team to help disgrace that fraud called Enzo Maresca but Carrick had other plans.

In as much as Bruno Fernandez can be frustrating at times especially without the ball,i still think the general setup from Carrick was terrible and that's not fault of Bruno.The team on Sunday didn't play as a unit and also lack of urgency in your game play and even at that,Bruno Fernandez still made his mark by making key passes. I will kee to have a player with the mentality of Bruno Fernandez in my team.He did the basic thing required from a typical AM.

The real culprits for your terrible performance on Sunday were Carrick, Dorgu, Dalots. Although, i don't like to single out players for bad performances but these guys were atrocious on sunday not to mention them. Not a moment of any single noteworthy thing they did and they had time and time on the ball. At a point,i was asking myself if they were professional footballers because everything about was screaming,grassroots footballers.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:54am On Sep 16
popizaino:
Bro.i watched the full game and was rooting for your team to help disgrace that fraud called Enzo Maresca but Carrick had other plans.

In as much as Bruno Fernandez can be frustrating at times especially without the ball,i still think the general setup from Carrick was terrible and that's not fault of Bruno.The team on Sunday didn't play as a unit and also lack of urgency in your game play and even at that,Bruno Fernandez still made his mark by making key passes. I will kee to have a player with the mentality of Bruno Fernandez in my team.He did the basic thing required from a typical AM.

The real culprits for your terrible performance on Sunday were Carrick, Dorgu, Dalots. Although, i don't like to single out players for bad performances but these guys were atrocious on sunday not to mention them. Not a moment of any single noteworthy thing they did and they had time and time on the ball. At a point,i was asking myself if they were professional footballers because everything about was screaming graduated grassroots footballers.
I didn’t single Bruno out for Sunday’s loss even though I think he could’ve done better. If you go through the thread you’ll see how frustrated I was with Dorgu mainly. That dude was absolutely terrible. Only Mainoo can hold his head up high.

We lost because of several reasons- Carrick’s tactics, laziness, and several terrible performances from players like Dorgu. Bruno didn’t get most of his decisions right too but I’m not singling him out. Several truths can coexist at the same time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:12am On Sep 16
Lamentations everywhere..let them do a 5-star performance today all these insult will stop.Another shitty display in our next game noise up again.ls a circle .Until we ready to call a spade a spade we will continue moving in circle.Sombody here ( I think afrodoc) said we should have given Carrick a handshake for job well done then allow him leave.
Tbh I don't really understand his experimentations.He had preseason to do that.let players go back to their original position.Cuhna in false 9 and Dorgu as LW is horrible.Let hope Baleba coming in will stabilize that midfield
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Onkoolos: 2:10pm On Sep 16
engrelvis:
Lamentations everywhere..let them do a 5-star performance today all these insult will stop.Another shitty display in our next game noise up again.ls a circle .Until we ready to call a spade a spade we will continue moving in circle.Sombody here ( I think afrodoc) said we should have given Carrick a handshake for job well done then allow him leave.
Tbh I don't really understand his experimentations.He had preseason to do that.let players go back to their original position.Cuhna in false 9 and Dorgu as LW is horrible.Let hope Baleba coming in will stabilize that midfield
even sesko self no look like someone that want to be starting
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 2:17pm On Sep 16
The annoying thing about this fôölish false 9 experiment is that we will be attacking and there will be nobody in the box. Both Cunha and Bruno will be waiting for one useless cutback at the edge of the box that's not coming.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 2:35pm On Sep 16
larride:
The annoying thing about this fôölish false 9 experiment is that we will be attacking and there will be nobody in the box. Both Cunha and Bruno will be waiting for one useless cutback at the edge of the box that's not coming.
Oversabi no dey good..

Something that he's tried three times already and it failed..The only goal Cunha has this season, he started at the left..

Let's wait for tonight's game sha..Let me see if he's actually as stupid as he wants me to think..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 3:07pm On Sep 16
CrystalTiger:
Oversabi no dey good..

Something that he's tried three times already and it failed..The only goal Cunha has this season, he started at the left..

Let's wait for tonight's game sha..Let me see if he's actually as stupid as he wants me to think..
Nothing can surprise me with this coach and players bro. Nothing. I expect everything, I expect nothing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by FortCavazosKnox: 4:08pm On Sep 16
Manchester United didn’t make an attempt to sign Romero from Tottenham but wants to sign Branthwaite from Everton? Useless club, board of directors and coach
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by superfelix: 7:04pm On Sep 16
bench Sesko in the league. start him in the efl cup. wow
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 7:19pm On Sep 16
Yoro and Heaven partnership. TrembleChamp, Carrick don listen to you oo.

Mbeumo on the bench, Bruno on the bench, Cunha on the bench and Dorgu on the bench too.

Carrick don listen to everybody so. Na Dalot remain grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 7:19pm On Sep 16
superfelix:
bench Sesko in the league. start him in the efl cup. wow
He needs to play him into form. Benching him won't do him any good.
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