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Konkoja:
You have become so insecure as a Christian, it's unreal.

IbeOkehie:
It's good to keep a promise. Don't be offended if the write up sounds too simplified or broken down, I want to make sure everything is understood because I'm not so good at conveying complex subjects. The bolded deserves to be addressed.

First, all drugs are classed into 2 major market groups....BRANDED and GENERIC. Branded drugs are still under patent and have ONLY one monopoly manufacturer and thus the prices are high. Drugs lose patents after 13 to 18 years and BECOME generics and ANY manufacturer can make it, which means lower prices.

So here's the straight answer....drug prices are largely the same in general, but in the specific area of BRAND NAME DRUGS, it's accurate to state that President Trump has crashed the prices of VERY POPULAR brand name drugs, especially the miracle drugs called GLP's...ozempic, wegovy and such. Oh yes, they're miracle drugs and he crashed the prices. In fact what happened borders on comedic, but I've answered the question. I'll get back to these GLP's later, they illustrate a VERY IMPORTANT point about government benefits and the human condition .

In the light of recent commentary on this thread such as the following -



She actually said or implied this? That's interesting. Then again, some also have opinions like this -

and



So here goes.

All of the above are true. The most important thing to know is HOW & WHY seemingly contradictory situations can co-exist as truth. There's nothing new in our world. The simple truth is that even as the rich exist, the Bible and common sense tell us that the poor will always be with us. It's a human reality. It doesn't even need to be explained and worst of all, there's NOTHING anyone can do about it. France, part of the EU/Europe, has an extensive socialist state that spends one of the highest % of GDP on welfarist programs, yet there's still complaints about poverty. Right now there's riots about terrible schools and some other things. So the truth is, if France has such complaints, then EVERY country will have such. To repeat, the problem can NEVER be solved.

Here in the USA, measured on a worldwide basis, there's no poverty. The only way a person can complain about "poverty" in the USA is to use domestic comparative arguments, which simply means ENVY. So the complaints are NOT really about poverty (which doesn't exist in the USA) it's about some people having so much compared to other people AND the fact that much of the income distribution falls along racial lines that suggest Black Americans are victims of a deliberate policy of impoverishment...while Asians are beneficiaries of what...deliberate upliftment?

And it's worth reminding everyone that Black Americans are the richest, healthiest, longest living, best HDI, most socio-politically empowered national group of Negroes on earth....and that the next highest ranked are in South Africa and the UK. Basically, any Negro that wants to thrive KNOWS that the best way to achieve it is to live among Anglo-Saxon Whites or in a country where they rule or dominate the economy.

Meanwhile, Nigeria, the country with the world's highest and MOST DIVERSE population of Negroes and least number of citizens of other races, is the Poverty Capital of the World....somehow, the poorest country in the Americas is also a Negro nation....Haiti, which killed off ALL it's White populace and conquered and colonized it's only neighbor, the Dominican Republic. Every argument MUST take these into account, any argument that doesn't consider the WORLDWIDE comparative is deliberately obtuse.

So those who have much less in the USA are called "POOR", but on a world wide comparison, they're actually middle class...90% of them have access to 24hr electricity, good roads, cell phones, limitless fixed price internet and all the best electronic entertainment. They're well fed to the point of obesity being a national epidemic, teenaged minimum wage earners can buy cars that most 40 year olds in Nigeria can't afford, every child gets free nursery to secondary school education...heck, in North Carolina the equivalent of Polytechnics are FREE for all families earning less than $90K (?) and if you acquire a skill and work inside the State, the tuition is PAID BACK to you, a member of my immediate family went through that. We didn't even know such a law existed, the check just arrived in the mail after the person got employed and we earn much more than $90K. So the notion of "poverty" for any person without physical or mental disability in the USA is laughable. It simply doesn't exist.

As this is my real name, I'm telling anyone on Nairaland living in the USA...if you know anyone in poverty in this country,...earning below $12/hr is my measure....please send me their info, give them my contacts, they can register on Nairaland and contact me. I promise to show them how they can BECOME a $65K/yr worker @ 40 to 50 hours/week, meaning median HOUSEHOLD income earners within 1 year in the State of North Carolina...a very simple, accessible path that anyone of average intellect can accomplish, with a guaranteed job with INFINITELY flexible hours and full benefits in ANY place in the country, including rural areas with very low rents.

Once they have that stable income, they can move on to do whatever else they choose. If they CHOOSE to continue taking my directions, within 5 years, they can EASILY be earning $100K/yr. So that's my retort to anyone who says there's a poor person in the USA, the only excuse for a normal person is IGNORANCE and I'm willing to educate them.

Why do people exist and REMAIN at the bottom of the income scales in the USA? Everyone knows the answers, but for reasons of political beliefs, self interest and moral posturing, they PRETEND not to know.

People REMAIN at the lower levels of the income/wealth scale in the USA for the following reasons -

(1) Physical health disability or mental health disability.

(2) Bad personal or economic decisions

(3) Government attempts to help the poor.

As this is a political thread and given the promises in the initial notes, the pharmaceutical markets will be used to illustrate point (3) above. The sad thing is that such has already been done and was met with a simple refusal to even engage on the substance of the issues exposed.

The vast and continuing USA subsidy for European and world pharmaceutical markets was explained here -

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/4677#133257086

and here the housing market origins of the Great Recession was explained....and of course ignored by the discussant -

https://www.nairaland.com/7989670/tinubu-nigeria-sinking-streets-full/6#128291426

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html

That NY Times article is so famous because it contains PREDICTIONS of what would happen when President Bill Clinton FORCED banks in 1999 to REDUCE credit standards with the expressed intent of ensuring more Black people could get mortgages and increase their home ownership rates. Just a decade later, the borrowers couldn't pay and the housing market crashed, causing the Great Recession of 2007. The funniest thing is that Black American homeownership is now LOWER than it was in 1999 when President Clinton started HELPING us In other words, the government program created to help Blacks did the opposite and suppressed Black home ownership.


So this is a futile discussion to have with Nigerian liberals cum Oyibo haters but here goes....

In or around the year 2003, Republican President George Bush the 2nd initiated or established Medicare Part D. Prior to this, all senior citizens & retirees in the USA had to pay for their medicines out of their pocket if they didn't have some personal, commercial or employer insurance. Thankfully, I was already in pharmacy at this time so I can say I've seen this thing right from the beginning...in demographic studies, a generation is 25 years. That's long enough to judge initial or substantive outcomes for most things in life.

At that time, who knows how it started, there was a huge outcry about the cost of drugs. No, actually it was started by the drug Plavix LOL, every pharmacist who thinks a little about it will agree. Heart related ailments were (and remain) a big killer in the USA. People who had heart attacks/myocardial infarctions are placed on drugs that prevent clotting. Back then warfarin was the clotting preventive. It was cheap but had some side effects and also needed regular lab testing which involved needle sticks. Warfarin was cheap, something like $15 to $20 for a month supply. Again, because heart/mi issues were so common, warfarin was widely used. We sold the thing like candy, pharmacies stocked the thing like crazy...very important medicine.

Plavix, a much better clot prevention agent, came to the market about 1999. Of course it was a new drug still on patent, so the manufacturer set the price very high...in the range of maybe $100 per month.

Seniors complained bitterly that they had to pay so much for this life preserving drug. Remember though, much cheaper warfarin was available. As rich people paid for Plavix, the ENVY set in from poorer folks who could only afford warfarin. And George Bush saw an issue on which to run for re-election. So he gave the USA Medicare Part D, which made government pay for the pharmaceuticals for all elderly/retired Americans.

So the USA has a pharma market in which companies are allowed to set their prices as they wish. It's budgetary suicide for government to subsidize or pay for a product/service without a limit on price. Well, drug costs quickly spiraled out of control. At first, just like the Nigerian fuel subsidy that started in 1973, nobody noticed, but by 2020 it was all coming apart.

Socialist Point #1 - Socialist will ask or will say...President Bush should have implemented price controls, why did he allow the pharma companies to OVER CHARGE the USA...though I don't know how you can call it overcharging when they set the price for their product.

Capitalist Point of Reply - implementing price controls will suppress innovation. Oh yeeees, if price controls had been implemented with Medicare Part D, it's unlikely that Ozempic would exist today.

So when drug spending started going up unsustainably, the solution the government hit on was to suppress the profits of the PHARMACY RETAIL STORES. This is a really sad story for anyone who knows pharmacy retail. Yes, giant chains like Rite Aid and Walgreens were driven into bankruptcy, but small, individually owned and independent stores were even worse hit. Thousands of people lost their jobs and many towns lost their beloved local pharmacists.

You will hear socialists rail and cry about INVESTORS making insane profits. Walgreens was a mainstay investment for many middle class families in the USA, it's the kind of company that Estate Lawyers who administer Trusts for orphans would put their money into because of the reliable dividends. Government policy destroyed a 100 year old company and goodness knows how many people lost their fortunes and wealth. Nobody ever talks about these losses, yes investors took the risk, nobody wants to restore their money but if they invest in another risk venture and succeed, the knives will be out to take their profits. The blood curdling ENVY of liberals & socialists is soooo illogical, it's a wall of unreason.

Now here's the kicker. Whatever happened to Plavix? The drug eventually lost it's patent. The competition that has ensued has driven the cash price to $25 per month today...in inflation adjusted dollars that's likely $10 back in 2002. This is the drug for which a whole retail sector was ravaged and destroyed to ensure that EVERYONE got access to it, despite the availability of a real alternative.

Not only that, even BETTER clot prevention agents like Xarelto have been invented and put on the market and of course the government DEMANDS that these new and EXPENSIVE ones MUST also be made available to EVERYONE regardless of their ability to pay, despite the FACT that Plavix, the recent miracle drug, is still available....and is as cheap as a Whataburger.

This is like the government insisting that EVERYONE must be afforded the subsidized opportunity to buy a dishwasher when they can manually do their dishes....or subsidizing very expensive electric cars when perfectly working petrol cars are still available. It makes no sense at all, even in the case of healthcare because ALTERNATIVES are there and can be used and they work, just maybe a little less efficacious.

This is even deeper in the case of GLP's like Ozempic. I have dozens of patients on Ozempic, Wegovy and such. President Trump went to war against these companies. The very week after he was elected, drug sales people were trooping into our pharmacy in panic, telling us that prices have changed, giving coupons and instructions on pricing. It was high comedy. There's ANOTHER mass price reduction scheduled for the new year too. Everybody go lekpaaa by force.

Most of our patients on Ozempic are getting excellent WEIGHT LOSS but that's only the most visible and of course most desired treatment point. It's also helping with diabetic and cardiovascular endpoints and even....sleep apnea. Yes o, the drug is doing things.
In talking to our patients, the biggest complaint is that Ozempic destroys their appetite to eat, sometimes through reflexive nausea when. That's actually HOW the drug works, it's actually activating a hormonal signal of SATIATION in the brain.

This brings up something important. If the mechanism of action of this drug is to STOP a person from overeating, why can't people do it themselves? Why must government PAY for a sentient human being to have some SELF CONTROL? Just common EATING, simple diet, people can't exercise some reasonable restraint. And they want government to pay for it or FORCE drug companies to sell the drug cheap. It's soooo silly, for real. It's an abdication of personal responsibility.

And that...abdication of personal responsibility....is a major cause of poverty AND government debt and the resultant price inflation in the USA. Nobody wants to do even a little to achieve what they want, the predominant instinct is to demand MONEY from someone else...and jealous socialists are always happy to point the irresponsible "poor" in the direction of the rich who are ALWAYS a minority in every country. It's frankly amusing reading their IGNORANCE and lack of economic sense.

Remember, President Clinton FORCED banks to lend to Black Americans in 1999...sparking a house buying boom. By 2007, most of those people couldn't pay the mortgages for the houses they bought and the banks started losing money and the economy crashed. Today in 2026, Black American home ownership rate is LOWER than in 1999. That's an affront to me as a Black American and is a practical example of why socialism is held in contempt by reasonable people.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html

Anyways, that's about it...hopefully it's coherent and makes sense, not too pedestrian but easy to understand the relevant points.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

Konkoja:
You have become so insecure as a Christian, it's unreal.

raumdeuter:
But once again May you continue to do well and enjoy this Great land of America

Comprehensive federal crime data consistently shows that White offenders kill more Asian Americans in total numbers than Black offenders, primarily because the White population in the United States is significantly larger.

However, criminologists and statistical analyses note that when adjusting for population size, Black offenders are statistically overrepresented relative to their share of the U.S. population, while White offenders are underrepresented.

The green/islamic unholy alliance are destroying Belgium aswell as France.

Legacy media and politicians leftist politicians turn a blind eye for the sake of DIEversity.
pic.twitter.com/rq2F23aLDz

— Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 (@TRobinsonNewEra) October 9, 2026

The legacy media tells you that these scenes out of Belgium are because French students want a better education... pic.twitter.com/U0L3uSGZSM

— Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 (@TRobinsonNewEra) October 10, 2026

bayelsaowei:
Mention Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands and others..

Is Spain still bankrupt today? Has their stance on government programs changed? Talk about today.

Stop dancing around..many countries are a living success of a mixed capitalist/socialist form of government..the US must adjust its approach to ensure a system is established for all and not just for a microscopic fee..

The few folks leaving Canada and the UK would have to deal with humongous medical bills in the USA and come to a realization that their earnings aren’t enough.. and would never be enough..

bayelsaowei:
Any responsible government would kill little kids? Did I just hear you correctly??

You’re like your deputy god.. insanity and goriness runs in all of you..

The Islamic riots in France have spread to Belgium, and Brussels looks like a war zone right now.

This is the capital of the European Union. 88% of people under 18 have a foreign background, and more than half are Muslim.

What has Europe done to itself? pic.twitter.com/gVDGj9DKPf

— Dr. Maalouf ‏ (@realMaalouf) October 9, 2026

kodded:
60 years ago lebanon was once a Christian nation

A man in Belgium tries to put out the fires made by invaders.

They scum attack him.
pic.twitter.com/o83zMPbBMw

— Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 (@TRobinsonNewEra) October 9, 2026

Konkoja:
Okay, when will the "rightists" propose to amend the constitution, so that only Christianity would be the official religion? As it is now, there is freedom of religion in America.

IbeOkehie:
I'm not sure the enjoyment will last much longer. I'm in retail pharmacy, it was a normal sector when I transitioned from hospital pharmacy. Government policy almost destroyed us, we only survived because we're in North Carolina where government has some respect for business due to preponderant Republican control of the State legislature. Here in the USA state legislatures are more important than the Governor/executive.

Remember, I used to live and practice in Maryland, a Deep Blue state with a permanently Democrat controlled legislature. I have MANY, many friends and colleagues who were destroyed by Medicare Part D in that state.

The ultimate trump card with socialists, liberals and progressives is that they pander to the lower achievers, who happen to be the less intelligent, and who NATURALLY are the majority. In a democracy the eventual outcome is that the socialists always win. It's a miracle the USA has achieved so much over such a long time. I read somewhere that the USA Constitution is now the longest lasting governing document in human history. The ONLY reason it's lasted and made the USA we have today is because it enthroned a republican LIMITED GOVERNMENT, it's also the ONLY BASIC LAW in the world that PREVENTS government from making some laws.


It's all going to be destroyed. I worry about my children and other young people, especially we Black Americans. Somehow whenever anything goes wrong, Negroes get the worst of it. Take something like HIV/AIDS. It should make everyone think....how a disease that started with and was mainly an affliction among White homosexual males has morphed into a situation where Black Women are now the predominantly affected race/gender group in the USA...and it's also very prevalent in Southern Africa.

Even when we have something good, we still manage to mess it up as a collective. How can Nigeria have the 6th largest crude oil & natural gas production and top 10 proven reserves in both....and end up as the Poverty Capital of the World? Abeg na curse?

Drug abuse nko? Same thing, when I started in healthcare, it was a White thing, now it's mainly Black people that indulge in it.

Poverty, abortion, murder....it always ends up worse among Negroes. I was just shaking my head as I kept reading some of these liberals repeatedly stating how White Americans are the main mass murderers in the USA or just the worst murderers period. The facts are in plain view for anyone that cares to look. One can only claim White Americans are the predominant murderers if their rate of the offense exceeds their share of the population.

Black Americans are 13% of the population and commit between 40 and 50% of the murders in this country...Black Men are 6% and commit over 42% of the murders.

White Americans are 55% to 63% of the population depending on how you handle the Hispanic angle...and they commit about 50% of the murders.

Given that killers of Black murder victims are less likely to be arrested because Whites tend to do more easily solved DOMESTIC violence murders, the disparity is likely wider.

When it comes to mass murder, it's the same pattern. Any given weekend, just Chicago alone supplies enough Black American mass murder to make the case, but anyone is free to look into the stats.

Then the most intriguing is the case of Asian Americans. It's a known thing that INTRA RACIAL MURDER is the norm, but it seems Asians are more likely to be killed by OTHER RACES in the USA. Who kills more Asian Americans, Blacks or Whites? And who makes popular songs about it? I've read about this in detail long ago, but hey let's do a gander and ask Google Gemini -



For the statistically illiterate, it's called PER CAPITA.

https://www.youtubeG9ja2VycyB5Zw%3D%3D

Blacks all over the world should be fighting to preserve the socio-political dominance of the Anglo-Saxons, but it seems we're only interested in getting the PERSONAL rewards of living among them while indulging in collective or group self sabotage via racial resentment. The long term outcomes are not gonna be positive.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

BREAKING:

Moroccan wedding guests have attacked the Member of the Flemish Parliament Filip Dewinter @FDW_VB in Antwerp city hall in Belgium.

The anti-migration politician is also a Councilman of the Antwerp City Council and arrived in city hall for a council meeting together…

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) October 9, 2026

bayelsaowei:
Mention Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands and others..

Is Spain still bankrupt today? Has their stance on government programs changed? Talk about today.

Stop dancing around..many countries are a living success of a mixed capitalist/socialist form of government..the US must adjust its approach to ensure a system is established for all and not just for a microscopic fee..

The few folks leaving Canada and the UK would have to deal with humongous medical bills in the USA and come to a realization that their earnings aren’t enough.. and would never be enough..

BREAKING:

The riots are spreading from France to Belgium.

Young second and third-generation migrants have joined forces with Antifa near the central station and are clashing with riot police. pic.twitter.com/i2K4pPfNCc

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) October 9, 2026

raumdeuter:
Yes anyone who kills Americans should be executed

I know you are angry that Hasan Nidal was not voted into congress as a reward

John 8:1-11
New International Version
8 1 but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.

2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

raumdeuter:
Have you forgotten your favorite places jn the world
Gaza
Iran
Yemen


Now list 3 socialist countries you will want to live in

IbeOkehie:
I'm not sure the enjoyment will last much longer. I'm in retail pharmacy, it was a normal sector when I transitioned from hospital pharmacy. Government policy almost destroyed us, we only survived because we're in North Carolina where government has some respect for business due to preponderant Republican control of the State legislature. Here in the USA state legislatures are more important than the Governor/executive.

Remember, I used to live and practice in Maryland, a Deep Blue state with a permanently Democrat controlled legislature. I have MANY, many friends and colleagues who were destroyed by Medicare Part D in that state.

The ultimate trump card with socialists, liberals and progressives is that they pander to the lower achievers, who happen to be the less intelligent, and who NATURALLY are the majority. In a democracy the eventual outcome is that the socialists always win. It's a miracle the USA has achieved so much over such a long time. I read somewhere that the USA Constitution is now the longest lasting governing document in human history. The ONLY reason it's lasted and made the USA we have today is because it enthroned a republican LIMITED GOVERNMENT, it's also the ONLY BASIC LAW in the world that PREVENTS government from making some laws.


It's all going to be destroyed. I worry about my children and other young people, especially we Black Americans. Somehow whenever anything goes wrong, Negroes get the worst of it. Take something like HIV/AIDS. It should make everyone think....how a disease that started with and was mainly an affliction among White homosexual males has morphed into a situation where Black Women are now the predominantly affected race/gender group in the USA...and it's also very prevalent in Southern Africa.

Even when we have something good, we still manage to mess it up as a collective. How can Nigeria have the 6th largest crude oil & natural gas production and top 10 proven reserves in both....and end up as the Poverty Capital of the World? Abeg na curse?

Drug abuse nko? Same thing, when I started in healthcare, it was a White thing, now it's mainly Black people that indulge in it.

Poverty, abortion, murder....it always ends up worse among Negroes. I was just shaking my head as I kept reading some of these liberals repeatedly stating how White Americans are the main mass murderers in the USA or just the worst murderers period. The facts are in plain view for anyone that cares to look. One can only claim White Americans are the predominant murderers if their rate of the offense exceeds their share of the population.

Black Americans are 13% of the population and commit between 40 and 50% of the murders in this country...Black Men are 6% and commit over 42% of the murders.

White Americans are 55% to 63% of the population depending on how you handle the Hispanic angle...and they commit about 50% of the murders.

Given that killers of Black murder victims are less likely to be arrested because Whites tend to do more easily solved DOMESTIC violence murders, the disparity is likely wider.

When it comes to mass murder, it's the same pattern. Any given weekend, just Chicago alone supplies enough Black American mass murder to make the case, but anyone is free to look into the stats.

Then the most intriguing is the case of Asian Americans. It's a known thing that INTRA RACIAL MURDER is the norm, but it seems Asians are more likely to be killed by OTHER RACES in the USA. Who kills more Asian Americans, Blacks or Whites? And who makes popular songs about it? I've read about this in detail long ago, but hey let's do a gander and ask Google Gemini -



For the statistically illiterate, it's called PER CAPITA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_FvQpoji70&pp=ygUuc29uZyBhYm91dCBraWxsaW5nIGFzaWFucyBtZWV0IHRoZSBmbG9ja2VycyB5Zw%3D%3D

Blacks all over the world should be fighting to preserve the socio-political dominance of the Anglo-Saxons, but it seems we're only interested in getting the PERSONAL rewards of living among them while indulging in collective or group self sabotage via racial resentment. The long term outcomes are not gonna be positive.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

IjeBos:
But, as I said, Republican "Christians" would see Jesus today and call him a woke hippie.

bemeruca:
Do you even understand the concept of Conservatism?

kodded:
comparing murder with adultery


Omo

IjeBos:
Professor "I pretend to live in the US" and "I like to speak on things I have no idea about" wants to give us another Ted talk this time on what conservatism is.

His last Ted talk was. "The 1st Amendment: It doesn't have the word 'press' in it"

Below is the one sentence 1st Amendment.

kodded:
comparing murder with adultery


Omo

bemeruca:
So you don't understand.

IbeOkehie:
I'm not sure the enjoyment will last much longer. I'm in retail pharmacy, it was a normal sector when I transitioned from hospital pharmacy. Government policy almost destroyed us, we only survived because we're in North Carolina where government has some respect for business due to preponderant Republican control of the State legislature. Here in the USA state legislatures are more important than the Governor/executive.

raumdeuter:
Maybe you shouldnt kill and attack Israel in the first place

IjeBos:
But, as I said, Republican "Christians" would see Jesus today and call him a woke hippie.

raumdeuter:
Whats the combined population of Norway Denmark and Netherlands is less than Texas never mind the US. The US already has a good.mix and doesnt need more else it goes the way of France