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jmichael259:
I was not commenting for your pleasure nor do I care for your disdain.
The fact remains that all matters of treatments involving blood components, blood filtration etc has always been an issue of personal decisions. This is not my first time of hearing any of this and you could never be in a position to tell me about it.

It is now disdain and pleasure because it does dance to the tune of your manipulations.

Assisting Those Who Misuse Blood: If the elders learn that a Christian has consumed unbled meat or blood, or accepted a transfusion of whole blood of another person (alloge-neic), two elders should meet with him to provide loving shepherding and to establish the facts…. Depending on the circumstances, the individual may not be exemplary for a period of time. In the rare instance he does not respond to the assistance of the elders or if you have any questions about a particular situation, please contact the Service Department. This paragraph replaces the direction found in Shepherd, chapter 7, paragraph 35. Shepherd will be adjusted in the next revision to reflect this update.

It is disdain when you guys are exposed. That's what PERSONAL CONSCIENCE means in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses. Person go hospital go collect blood through im own personal conscience elders started investigation and after that if not exemplary OVER MY PERSONAL CONSCIENCE


Jehovah’s Witnesses are trained to depend on someone to teach them. They wait for the Governing Body to announce adjustments, clarifications, and new understandings.

They wait for those familiar words: “The Governing Body has decided.”...... On what your personal conscience should be.

MaxInDHouse:
These people are faithless dudes seeking the attention of faithful people so their comments makes no practical sense if you look into it critically.

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Consider those who died refusing blood transfusions, including my friend's father. They followed the dictates of an organisation that presented its interpretation of scripture as God's instruction, rather than questioning the authority behind those teachings. His father died, leaving him and his siblings orphaned while they were still in secondary school. You can imagine the hardship they endured growing up and the consequences they still live with today.

Now, the same organisation has revised its position on blood components.

P.S: What exactly does critical thinking mean here? Simply accepting the latest interpretation, or questioning how an organisation that claims to be God's channel could have been so wrong about something with such devastating consequences? Perhaps it is time to confront a more fundamental possibility: that the Jehovah's Witness organisation is a human institution, sustained by men's interpretations of scripture and their own conception of how people should live, rather than an organisation being directed by God himself.

And you REALLY talking about looking at things critically?

MaxInDHouse:
These people are faithless dudes seeking the attention of faithful people so their comments makes no practical sense if you look into it critically.

It makes no practical sense because it is not from your GODS of men housed in USA and it does not dance to the tune you want to hear as it exposes the self righteousness and hypocrisy from top to bottom in the midst of your religious organization.

Looking at what you posted yesterday critically made you REALISE that despite all the ALTERNATIVES TO BLOOD marketed for over 60 years, your religious leaders still come back to tell you WHAT VIOLATED God's law is now a personal conscience.😂😂😂😂

achorladey:


It is now disdain and pleasure because it does dance to the tune of your manipulations.




It is disdain when you guys are exposed. That's what PERSONAL CONSCIENCE means in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses. Person go hospital go collect blood through im own personal conscience elders started investigation and after that if not exemplary OVER MY PERSONAL CONSCIENCE


Jehovah’s Witnesses are trained to depend on someone to teach them. They wait for the Governing Body to announce adjustments, clarifications, and new understandings.

They wait for those familiar words: “The Governing Body has decided.”

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I thought it was God who was deciding, so it's a bunch humans called The Governing Body 😂

Roycemadeit:
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I thought it was God who was deciding, so it's a bunch humans called The Governing Body 😂

Na soooo😂😂😂😂 in recent times the thing sweet for the mouth of their Governing body to just say

The Governing Body has decided that members CAN NOW USE THEIR BIBLE TRAINED CONSCIENCE TO accept four major components of blood


Even their conscience na under remote of the Governing Body. To think the person who delivered the update stated they don't want to be masters over the faith of others made the whole issue Laughable.

Roycemadeit:
And you REALLY talking about looking at things critically?

Where did God's organization go wrong?🙂

Present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!🥱

achorladey:
It makes no practical sense because it is not from your GODS of men housed in USA and it does not dance to the tune you want to hear as it exposes the self righteousness and hypocrisy from top to bottom in the midst of your religious organization. Looking at what you posted yesterday critically made you REALISE that despite all the ALTERNATIVES TO BLOOD marketed for over 60 years, your religious leaders still come back to tell you WHAT VIOLATED God's law is now a personal conscience.😂😂😂😂

Roycemadeit:
I thought it was God who was deciding, so it's a bunch humans called The Governing Body 😂

They have fulfilled what our God promised which no human group can achieve {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} so it's our God that is leading the organization not them!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!🥱

The food I give you yesterday don finish

Dem don rewire una thinking about those you call apostates using JW broadcast recently abi tell you guys WHERE ELSE WILL YOU GO

achorladey:
The food I give you yesterday don finish
Dem don rewire una thinking about those you call apostates using JW broadcast recently abi tell you guys WHERE ELSE WILL YOU GO

Good!
In the absence of replacement you have no point Sir!🥱

jmichael259:
I was not commenting for your pleasure nor do I care for your disdain.
The fact remains that all matters of treatments involving blood components, blood filtration etc has always been an issue of personal decisions. This is not my first time of hearing any of this and you could never be in a position to tell me about it.

@underlined - it's a personal decision but Watchtower said Jehovah Hates it.

So, you mean Jehovah likes Blood Transfusion but ONLY that people should just decide if to take it or not?

MaxInDHouse:
They have fulfilled what our God promised which no human group can achieve {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} so it's our God that is leading the organization not them!🙂

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Your interpretation is internally understandable within your theology, maybe as pronounced by The Governing Body, but it is not something the Hebrew text independently establishes.

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
In the absence of replacement you have no point Sir!🥱

I am not in the business of looking for replacement. My point is not about REPLACEMENT. Think!!! I hope your yawning won't enlarge your oral cavity beyond normal.

MaxInDHouse:
Where did God's organization go wrong?🙂

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God's organization has been making changes here and there. Is it because God or His Organization doesn't know what's better until later?

Roycemadeit:
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Your interpretation is internally understandable within your theology, maybe as pronounced by The Governing Body, but it is not something the Hebrew text independently establishes.

Na fraud be the interpretation internally, their members that fight war within themselves over their children marrying from a particular tribe or even within their own tribe.

Domestic violence and all sorts or abuse within the family, fracas within the congregation. Na just external appearance. Deep within you don't want to go close.

achorladey:
Na soooo😂😂😂😂 in recent times the thing sweet for the mouth of their Governing body to just say

The Governing Body has decided that members CAN NOW USE THEIR BIBLE TRAINED CONSCIENCE TO accept four major components of blood


Even their conscience na under remote of the Governing Body. To think the person who delivered the update stated they don't want to be masters over the faith of others made the whole issue Laughable.

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How can something as clear as day be defended against and denied?

Is this not what they labelled idols as having eyes but can't see. MaxInDHouse I will never worship man-made God 🎶

Roycemadeit:
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God's organization has been making changes here and there. Is it because God or His Organization doesn't know what's better until later?

Their God's organisation = Governing Body = God.

Their GODS of men housed in USA want to be more Pharisee than the Pharisees started making rules and laws on what the scriptures didn't legislate.

achorladey:
Their God's organisation = Governing Body = God.

Their GODS of men housed in USA want to be more Pharisee than the Pharisees started making rules and laws on what the scriptures didn't legislate.

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. I thought so too. Cuz what are they putting Governing Body up there for, when they are all supposedly equal.

achorladey:
Na fraud be the interpretation internally, their members that fight war within themselves over their children marrying from a particular tribe or even within their own tribe.

Domestic violence and all sorts or abuse within the family, fracas within the congregation. Na just external appearance. Deep within you don't want to go close.

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You know they wouldn't pay allegiance to any flags but their kids can't tribally inter-marry 😂

Roycemadeit:
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How can something as clear as day be defended against and denied?

Is this not what they labelled idols as having eyes but can't see. MaxInDHouse I will never worship man-made God 🎶

Loooool

Roycemadeit:
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. I thought so too. Cuz what are they putting Governing Body up there for, when they are all supposedly equal.

That's why people who deal with them based on what they see on the outside are easily deceived. Draw closer to them and you see their true colours.

Within the congregation, they have different class. Publisher to Ministerial servant to elders. They are not in anyway equal. Who born publisher well to go and sit in the midst of elders having elders meeting? Na sakamaje

Roycemadeit:
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You know they wouldn't pay allegiance to any flags but their kids can't tribally inter-marry 😂

When they come with we are uniting people here and there they won't tell you the wars in different congregation they keep counselling members to stop.

Roycemadeit:
Your interpretation is internally understandable within your theology, maybe as pronounced by The Governing Body, but it is not something the Hebrew text independently establishes.

Ọmọ that's why millions are saying "if the world is full of JWs there will be peace globally"🙂

Roycemadeit:
God's organization has been making changes here and there. Is it because God or His Organization doesn't know what's better until later?

That is how our God has been doing from time immemorial it's always one step after another that is why we have the old and new covenant!🙂

Roycemadeit:
MaxInDHouse I will never worship man-made God 🎶

Better!
Now present a better performing God than that of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
That is how our God has been doing from time immemorial it's always one step after another that is why we have the old and new covenant!🙂

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Exactly my point. So, for centuries, humanity was supposedly left in religious confusion, with different denominations interpreting and misinterpreting God's word, until the mid-19th century when your founder finally figured out how God wanted to be worshipped.

Are we then to believe that God allowed generations of people to live and die without the truth, only to reveal it through one man in the 19th century? Was misleading humanity for all those centuries part of God's plan?

MaxInDHouse:
Better!
Now present a better performing God than that of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!🙂

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God only gets credited with outstanding performance when the evidence is absent and human logic is asked to fill in the gaps. When things go wrong, somehow it's all part of his mysterious plan. When things go right, it's proof of his intervention. Isn't that convenient?

YES!
Because Satan is fighting tough against the salvation of mankind so he's always imitating whatever God arranged for His worshipers that's why God allowed centuries of confusion {Matthew 13:25} until the endtime before separating sheep-like people from goat-like ones.
Matthew 13:29-30🙂
Note that with the clear separation today not even you with all your grievances can point out a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

All you're doing now is lying to your own soul despite seeing the truth clearly before you that only this group has fulfilled what God promised in the Bible.

Why? Because God has allowed centuries of confusion for us to learn from their mistakes and know how to maintain our stand in the truth. Nobody is talking about perfection but you can never ever find a better performing group than God's people!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Exactly my point. So, for centuries, humanity was supposedly left in religious confusion, with different denominations interpreting and misinterpreting God's word, until the mid-19th century when your founder finally figured out how God wanted to be worshipped.

Are we then to believe that God allowed generations of people to live and die without the truth, only to reveal it through one man in the 19th century? Was misleading humanity for all those centuries part of God's plan?

Roycemadeit:
God only gets credited with outstanding performance when the evidence is absent and human logic is asked to fill in the gaps. When things go wrong, somehow it's all part of his mysterious plan. When things go right, it's proof of his intervention. Isn't that convenient?

All these are story for the gods.

If you don't want to believe God is working among JWs then point out a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses because our God has used His true worshipers to prove that He is alive! Isaiah 43:10🙂

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
Because Satan is fighting tough against the salvation of mankind so he's always imitating whatever God arranged for His worshipers that's why God allowed centuries of confusion {Matthew 13:25} until the endtime before separating sheep-like people from goat-like ones.
Matthew 13:29-30🙂
Note that with the clear separation today not even you with all your grievances can point out a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

All you're doing now is lying to your own soul despite seeing the truth clearly before you that only this group has fulfilled what God promised in the Bible.

Why? Because God has allowed centuries of confusion for us to learn from their mistakes and know how to maintain our stand in the truth. Nobody is talking about perfection but you can never ever find a better performing group than God's people!🙂

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Let's not confuse a later Christian theological interpretation with a universally established fact.

According to the Tanakh, Satan is an accuser operating under God's authority. The Hellenistic-influenced New Testament develops a different picture of Satan as God's adversary and deceiver.

Now, according to Revelation 20:1-10, Satan is eventually bound, released after a thousand years and allowed to deceive humanity again. Think about that: God releases Satan to deceive mankind, and those who fall for that deception are destroyed. Interestingly, in the Garden of Eden, Satan entered the serpent and deceived Eve, but it wa the serpent, Adam and Eve who received the punishment, not Satan.

God allows centuries of religious confusion, permits Satan to deceive humanity, releases him for another round of deception after a thousand years, and somehow the human beings and Satan caught in this elaborate arrangement orchested are the ones to blame? 😂

And you can claim that your organisation is the truth, but to another denomination, you are hellbound, occultic and not even Christian enough. Everyone seems to have a direct line to the truth, yet the truth ain't one.

Roycemadeit:
According to the Tanakh, Satan is an accuser operating under God's authority.

Simply because you're an atheist you want to confuse yourself shey?😂

Please who should the so called ACCUSER accuse justifiably?😂

The same person who accused God claiming God lied is now working for the same God he accused shey?😂

Ọmọ ask make we enlighten you if you're not interested that is understandable but cooking what is not and expecting right thinking people to agree with you is really really hilarious!😂

MaxInDHouse:
Simply because you're an atheist you want to confuse yourself shey?😂

Please who should the so called ACCUSER accuse justifiably?😂

The same person who accused God claiming God lied is now working for the same God he accused shey?😂

Ọmọ ask make we enlighten you if you're not interested that is understandable but cooking what is not and expecting right thinking people to agree with you is really really hilarious!😂

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I don't think y'all know anything. You keep running with interpretation here and there, but God is silent. That's why you would wake up tomorrow and update your tenets. I have been telling you that is all human and their bias cherry-picking verses in the view that it is what God wants.