Hello Nlanders, can anybody enlighten me on the history of the Akoko people of Ondo state and part of Edo state? I only know them to be part of Yoruba tribe and that they speak multiple language. Also apart from language, their tradition is similar to that of Ekiti people. Please, who can educate us?

They are originally Edo people. However, large number yoruba emigration into that territory has influenced their tongue and even in their names. I think Nigeria needs to carry out boundary adjustments. If that is done, the Akokos will be merged with their kins in Edo state.

^^^^ op is interested in cultural history, not a preaching on how to divide people. fool!

Dudu_Negro: ^^^^ op is interested in cultural history, not a preaching on how to divide people. fool!

The yorubas are so keen in claiming Edos, this thread may be one of those attempts. I hope you understand that.
Have a nice day castrated pig.

I am only interested in their cultural history. I'm from Ondo state but want to know much about them, they claim to originate from Ile-ife.

wehla: I am only interested in their cultural history. I'm from Ondo state but want to know much about them, they claim to originate from Ile-ife.

thanks for bringing this topic up,am an ikare-akoko boy and purely yoruba.the little i knw is dat akoko has many dialects of yoruba about 6,but they all sound like eastern yoruba with little vairations.i have a friend in unilag here and she is frm akoko edo and nt yoruba.bt i wil cum bak later with more history.

Even Akokos in Edo claim yoruba heritage and it shows in their names and other traditions. During border adjustment in early days of Obasanjo admin, they prefer to be in Ondo state.

wehla: Even Akokos in Edo claim yoruba heritage and it shows in their names and other traditions. During border adjustment in early days of Obasanjo admin, they prefer to be in Ondo state.

Poor boy, stop this your silly attempt at land grabbing. At what time did they clamour to join Ondo state?. And for your information as you have none, they do not claim yoruba heritage.
I know your idiotic aim of this thread.

so, what's the consensus?

are they edo or yoruba.

i am from epinmi-akoko......akoko south east lcg.....i no we are YORUBa from name but during festival of OBAHaHOHO d historian use to tell us how d founder migrate from edo,,but all in all everybody still beleive they are yoruba
i rellay want to no more about akoko,form
OBA akoko to
idoano or
SUPARE

updates?

Ngodigha1: They are originally Edo people. However, large number yoruba emigration into that territory has influenced their tongue and even in their names. I think Nigeria needs to carry out boundary adjustments. If that is done, the Akokos will be merged with their kins in Edo state.

I never knew states were created in Nigeria along ethnic lines.. If so why are we Ijaws so balkanized in to numerous states of other tribes ? Is it a way of disuniting us so as to share our oil and gas resources ? In every state we are the people refer to us as non natives.. WHY ??

hardniola: i am from epinmi-akoko......akoko south east lcg.....i no we are YORUBa from name but during festival of OBAHaHOHO d historian use to tell us how d founder migrate from edo,,but all in all everybody still beleive they are yoruba
i rellay want to no more about akoko,form
OBA akoko to
idoano or
SUPARE

People should go by what the historian has been saying..The original land owners are the edos.. AKOKO is an EDO word just as OBA is an EDO word. No natives who migrate to other land are always taking over the land of the natives and this is not a good thing.. Those who have migrated to another land must accept the identity of the land.. Ghanaians would not come to Nigeria and claim Nigeria is GHANA.

It's exactly How Yoruba claimed all Ijaw land.. They migrate to your land and you allow them settle.. But because they will never let go their culture and language , with time they dominate and after years the generation of the time would claim Yoruba effectively making the place a Yoruba land.

killayut:

People should go by what the historian has been saying..The original land owners are the edos.. AKOKO is an EDO word just as OBA is an EDO word. No natives who migrate to other land are always taking over the land of the natives and this is not a good thing.. Those who have migrated to another land must accept the identity of the land.. Ghanaians would not come to Nigeria and claim Nigeria is GHANA.

akoko is a yoruba word for wood pecker which makes the ko"ko" sound.that region has significant.of its population

U can check google we have 2 types of akoko's in ondo those who claim ife ancestry and those who claim edo ancestery but they all speak yoruba. akoko can be said to be the region where yoruba meets edo.and which is significant 2 yoruba edo relationship. Akoko has ova 40 towns ,i am ikare and we clain ife ancestry.

warlei: akoko is a yoruba word for wood pecker which makes the ko"ko" sound.that region has significant.of its population

As far as I know there is a difference in pronounciation between these two words.

Woodpecker is àkọ́kọ́, while the people is àkókó. Though it could very well be a dialect thing.

So many people are ignorant of so many things esp issues of culture and ethnicity. The other day, Omoyele Sowore from a Yoruba-speaking Ijaw community can not even acknowledge that he is Ijaw but rather accused Ijaw people by saying "that (Apoi land) is where Ijaw people CLAIMED their land starts from".

Today Yoruba & Edo people call us strangers & squatters in Lagos, Ogun, Ondo & Edo states, giving none entities like Itsekiris the audacity to call us the same.

In line with this generally admired trend of ignorance, certain Edoid people in Delta and Rivers state are seen as Igbos and Igbos claim them with all exuberance- even going as far as claiming certain Ijaw communities.

I wish more of our Youths could humble themselves and seek the truth like our OP is doing.

killayut:

People should go by what the historian has been saying..The original land owners are the edos.. AKOKO is an EDO word just as OBA is an EDO word. No natives who migrate to other land are always taking over the land of the natives and this is not a good thing.. Those who have migrated to another land must accept the identity of the land.. Ghanaians would not come to Nigeria and claim Nigeria is GHANA.

Akoko is a Yoruba word, it means wood-pecker. And oba is also a Yoruba word means king. The thing is Edo and Yoruba languages have a lot of words in common but I can tell u that the "Akoko".and "oba" are originally Yoruba words. And the akoko people claim to be Yoruba. This is not about claiming anybodies land Yoruba are not like Igbo.

Yoruba people are land grabbers they wont to grab akoko edo. I blame who ever is responsible for the constitutional delimination of 1966 by retaining the name akoko in edo.

Omexonomy: Yoruba people are land grabbers they wont to grab akoko edo. I blame who ever is responsible for the constitutional delimination of 1966 by retaining the name akoko in edo.

what is this one saying? Who said Akoko-Edo is yoruba? They are a conglomerate of some Aborigines, Igbirras, Igala and Bini. Though a very few Yorubas migrated there. THE AKOKOs in ONDO STATE are YORUBAs. I'm an Ilaje boy from Ondo state so I know what I'm saying.

Though in some northern parts of Akoko, some are Tapa who migrated there during wars and raid; that does not make the whole of Akoko not Yoruba. Go face your Ikwerre, Anioma saga.

Oba is an Edo word and Yoruba do not use it unless at were Edition ruled. OBA OF BENIN. there is nothing like Obama title in any Yoruba land. So this false claim means Akoko is also anEdo word. ONI OF UFE AWUJALE OF IJEBU OLU IBADAN BUT OBA OF BENIN..OBA OF OGBA LAND. .STOP CLAIMING EDO words.King una Yoruba is kabiyesi.

macof:
Akoko is a Yoruba word, it means wood-pecker. And oba is also a Yoruba word means king. The thing is Edo and Yoruba languages have a lot of words in common but I can tell u that the "Akoko".and "oba" are originally Yoruba words. And the akoko people claim to be Yoruba. This is not about claiming anybodies land Yoruba are not like Igbo.

Too much ignorant people on this forum, it is very annoying at times and most times funny .
Firstly, oba, omo, akoko, apoti, osa, okun etc are all of Yoruba origin.

Secondly there is no claiming here, akokos, ilajes, mahin, aworis are all Yorubas. Just cos we are costal does not mean we are ijaw for crying out loud ! Just cos our first oba was a bini man does not mean we are bini,

Just cos bini just oba does not mean we borrowed it from them. I mean any truthful person will analysis the bini royal names well eg omo N oba which means a son of a king in Yoruba, iyoba mask the popular bini cultural sign is a yoruba word which means the king's mother. The meaning of bini is what in bini ?

As for the ijaws, as SR said about apoi, I an awori eko clan man will confirm the same. Kirikiri, apapa etc are not ijaw words but of awori origin which I have explained to killayut already.

We are yorubas and very very very proud to be one, no propaganda can change that ! Not all yorubas have the same origin just as.not all ijaws or edo groups have the same origin.

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Iyoba is "Iye-Oba." Iye is the Edo word for mother - there isn't some other word for mother in the Edo ('Bini') language. 'Omo' is used by most - if not all - of the groups that speak 'Edoid' languages - Etsako, Urhobo, Isoko, Engenni, Degema, etc. Not sure why you thought it was exclusively Yoruba.

What does 'osa' mean in Yoruba? Just wondering.

PhysicsQED: ^

Iyoba is "Iye-Oba." Iye is the Edo word for mother - there isn't some other word for mother in the Edo ('Bini') language. 'Omo' is used by most - if not all - of the groups that speak 'Edoid' languages - Etsako, Urhobo, Isoko, Engenni, Degema, etc. Not sure why you thought it was exclusively Yoruba.

What does 'osa' mean in Yoruba? Just wondering.

Iye is a yoruba word for mother spoken by north eastern yorubas.(Ondo ekiti axis)

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I know iye is used in a few parts of Yorubaland, but my point is that iye is the word for mother in Edo - there isn't some other word and it is not borrowed from any outside group (basic parental terms are not the sort of words groups borrow). There are some words that are going to be shared between some nearby linguistic groups that aren't borrowed and iye is one of these words. Alj harem also wrongly tried to suggest that "omo" is borrowed when omo has never been exclusive to Yorubas. These words have more to do with a proto-language ancestral to some modern southern Nigerian languages than they have to do with any specific modern ethnicity.

PhysicsQED: ^

Iyoba is "Iye-Oba." Iye is the Edo word for mother - there isn't some other word for mother in the Edo ('Bini') language. 'Omo' is used by most - if not all - of the groups that speak 'Edoid' languages - Etsako, Urhobo, Isoko, Engenni, Degema, etc. Not sure why you thought it was exclusively Yoruba.

What does 'osa' mean in Yoruba? Just wondering.

Osa and okun means the ocean or sea and can be used interchangeably.

Iye or iya are not only used by eastern yorubas but likes of ijesha, and even as far as kwara and ogun ijebu.

Omo is used as far as Ghana ga tribe and even they know it's from the yorubas. Years ago before the word Yoruba came to existence, Yoruba as far as Togo used omo oduduwa.

Osa does not mean ocean or sea in Edo so I guess that's a completely different word. Thanks for telling me what it means in Yoruba. Which particular Yoruba dialect uses osa to mean ocean/sea?

I talked about this in another thread, but apart from the fact that fundamental words for "father" "mother" "child" etc. in languages are not borrowed, there are obvious signs that "iye" "iya" etc. developed from a root word in a language ancestral to some modern southern Nigerian languages - there are cognates for this word among different nearby ethnic groups.

Thinking "omo" is exclusive to Yoruba makes no sense. There's a very similar word (very similar in appearance and meaning) "umu" used by a linguistic group to the east (Igbos), and to the north-central, there's a group, Igala, that use "oma" to mean the same thing, and all the Edoid groups (including those in Bayelsa) in between Yoruba and Igbo and Igala use "omo" to mean child/descendant. All these words (omo,oma,umu) clearly have the same origin, and it doesn't make sense to claim that because the Edoid and Yoruboid forms of the word settled on the same variant ('omo') that this means that one particular ethnic group originated the word when it's clear that the words just didn't diverge enough from one another among those groups (Yoruboid and Edoid groups) to take different forms.

The Ga language does not use "omo" for child.

See here:

http://archive.org/details/agrammaticalske01zimmgoog

('A grammatical sketch of the Akra- or Gã-language' (1858))

Look through p. 80 of that book. The word for child in Ga is "bi." A daugher is "biyei" and a son is "bihi."

Anyone using "omo" to mean child or son who claims to be a Ga has direct ancestry from somewhere in southern Nigeria.

^^^^However, the Ga's of Ghana claim their ancestry is Ife. So their use "omo" is plausible. Even in Yoruba, not every group calls the same words the same thing.

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There isn't any evidence that the Ga do use it or even that they used it in the past though.

PhysicsQED has locked it up.