chamotex: Moyes " our situation is at the verge of turning, I cans sense it"

Is this guy a bastard?

Bros, Moyes is an 'oloshious' bastard.

bandely: The same Cleverly one mofo said is better than Oscar. Some people deserves to be castrated

bros na so we see am o.

this time last year there were pages and pages of tori here where they were telling us these same players are better than everyone in sight.
na on top this same thread we hear say cleverly na the best young midfielder in the league. valencia is greater than zeus. rooney shits on van persie etc etc etc.

make we sha dey look.

Moyes blocks Zaha's loan move.
He no wan play the guy, he no wan release the guy to develop.
Something no correct for this man head

So this club is still playing in premier league? Hiss!

Top 4 dream getting slimmer

Dantedasz: Depressing.
It is obvious these players do not want to play for Moyes.

The be all and end all of the matter.
Dude cannot motivate/inspire the players to achieve anything for the life of it.

Oghos1, still of the view that David Moyes was the best choice for united at the time of his appointment?

StarBoard:
Oghos1, still of the view that David Moyes was the best choice for united at the time of his appointment?

YES.
At the time of his appointment he was.
...and I've not given up on him.
Not yet at least.


Meanwhile, a £25m bid for pjanic is being reported.
I hope this won't end in another 'rejection' just as all our bids in the summer.

Not to worry, it's a 2-legged tie. We can still make amends.

Soon as we can get RvP back and firing, we'll be back to winning ways!

^^ Question is can Moyes get RVP firing with his longball, slow paced, rigid setup? Not to mention unimaginative tactics and approach in the final third.

Had RVP being around, things would have been better. We went on an eleven match unbeaten run, then some bad results put pressure on the young lads and the manager. In such situations, you need senior players to cope and get out with some decent results. Then Giggs, Rooney and RVP brought some maturity against Shakhtar and we won 1-0. From then we went on a six straight victories. Then the bad result against Tottenham. No senior players, things went bad against Sawnsea. Last night, Giggs provided some 'fatherly' cover, but his age meant he could do little.

If we had all our senior players fit, including Young and Nani, there was no way we could have lost three straight matches. There would have been a limit to which Swansea and Sunderland venture out of their defensive area. One moment of magic from a senior player or a combination of senior players will open up the opponent.

Yesterday wasn't so bad, but we lacked quality in the final third. In the absence of Rooney and RVP, Ashley Young could have given us a bit of that quality. Ashley Young is intelligent when he cuts into the hole from the wing.

montelik: ^^ Question is can Moyes get RVP firing with his longball, slow paced, rigid setup? Not to mention unimaginative tactics and approach in the final third.

Finally, Moyes is no genius... there is more than enough substantial evidence of this, so no arguing. But we are stuck with him for now; and that is why I also insist, that our players do not cover themselves in glory either

Simple basic things as drifting, swapping positions, showing to receive a pass, tracking opponents runs, et al... do they have to be spelled out to 'em like A, B, C...
I mean take for instance Valencia's crosses - most often than not, it is a low ball played on the floor that usually doesn't beat the first defender - why doesn't Welbeck take a gamble at the near post!? Time and time again, they replay the same things over as though they have been programmed not to use their heads all of a sudden... and this are pro players, internationals!

The manager is poor doesn't mean they cannot take matters into their hands and up the ante... or maybe they are "taking matters into their hands" by trying to get the manager sacked!

It's not fair to judge Moyes until he's had a
decent crack of the whip in the transfer
market. He knows the squad needs massively
strengthening. He needs a lot of top quality players to strengthening. It's not that easy though, not in
January.

Yes, they won the Premier League last year,
but lads are a year older. Other competitors
have upped their game.
And the incredible Fergie factor. SAF had a great influence on the EPL and its referees. It will take Moyes or any other coach a decade or more to get there.

I am very sure Man City can play wihout a manager and still come out with 90% of their result.

Our players are also not helping. My major blame on the team management is their stubbornness not to buy players. We have no bench. We have just about 13-14 good players. We know injury will always be there. No forward playing midfielder, etc, etc,etc.

All these talk na just stories
The Fact:
We are not playing well, we are not getting results either. We wouldn't mind either or both options now for the fresh air at least
The board should strategize a way forward
#finish

I just cant wait for the transfer window now.

elampiro:

Yesterday wasn't so bad, but we lacked quality in the final third. In the absence of Rooney and RVP, Ashley Young could have given us a bit of that quality. Ashley Young is intelligent when he cuts into the hole from the wing.

You know the situation is really bad when you have to rely on Ashley Young for anything

If I also see Mike Phelan, me sef. I go just randomly apologise to him.

As a chelsea fan, that draw earlier in the season against man u is beginning to look like two unnecessary points dropped, the kind of game we should be winning easily. We'll make amends in about a weeks time

elampiro: I am very sure Man City can play wihout a manager and still come out with 90% of their result.

Our players are also not helping. My major blame on the team management is their stubbornness not to buy players. We have no bench. We have just about 13-14 good players. We know injury will always be there. No forward playing midfielder, etc, etc,etc.

City or even Bayern would lose games with a clueless manager. All these things u guys r mentioning here r still under d tactics, instructns n motivatns from d manager.

Our present style of play is similar to d@ of street football.

Oghos1:
YES.
At the time of his appointment he was.
...and I've not given up on him.
Not yet at least.

good for you.
Just to remind you, this is 2014. His Win record so far leaves a lot to be desired.
On the evidence of the games played this year, I would say he's doing a masterful job of proving you right, innit?

on a side note, two of my candidates for the job (Martinez and Laudrup) have beaten him at Old Trafford this season with less expensive sides.
Hope you noticed that.

Oghos1:
Meanwhile, a £25m bid for pjanic is being reported.
I hope this won't end in another 'rejection' just as all our bids in the summer.

My hope is not necessarily whether he will reject us or not.
What I'm more interested in is whether this is not just a panic purchase.
Because that was what Fail-aini turned out to be and we're yet to see what improvement that has done.

folahann: It's not fair to judge Moyes until he's had a
decent crack of the whip in the transfer
market. He knows the squad needs massively
strengthening. He needs a lot of top quality players to strengthening. It's not that easy though, not in
January.

Don't agree necessarily with your view there.
He had all summer last year to buy but bumbled around Fabregas and Herrera till the late minute where he scrambled Fellaini (instead of Barkley).
That negates the view that he hasn't had a decent crack of the whip at transfers.

folahann: .
Yes, they won the Premier League last year,
but lads are a year older. Other competitors
have upped their game.
And the incredible Fergie factor. SAF had a great influence on the EPL and its referees. It will take Moyes or any other coach a decade or more to get there.

The time frame within the period here isn't more than 6-8 months, so I'm not sure the older thing works for me.
The Fergie factor as per refs is bloated out of proportion, really.
The fact is Moyes cannot inspire the players to play for and believe in him and his methods, like Fergie did.
That's why we are so limp and vulnerable.

Man Utd problems are

1. The players must take highest proportion of the blame because those players we believe would step up their games are really doing nothing.
2. Injuries to key players are not really helping matters as well.
3. Age is catching up with some players as well.
4. Players are making too many individual errors.

I am not expecting much from this squad this season. The only target for me is top 4. Then there should be quality reinforcement in the summer for us to move on.

StarBoard:
good for you.
Just to remind you, this is 2014. His Win record so far leaves a lot to be desired.

we all know this.

on a side note, two of my candidates for the job (Martinez and Laudrup) have beaten him at Old Trafford this season with less expensive sides.
Hope you noticed that.

so has poyet, sherwood, sacked steve clark, alan pardew etc etc. Does that make them better candidates for the job now? not to talk of at d end of last season.
Its always easy to talk in hindsight.
Would u really have hired martinez if u were at the helm of affairs?seriously? At d end of last season! Be real.

My hope is not necessarily whether he will reject us or not.
What I'm more interested in is whether this is not just a panic purchase.
Because that was what Fail-aini turned out to be and we're yet to see what improvement that has done.

u need to watch him play. Roma games aren't that hard to come by. that's all.

United are in serious trouble right now.
The debts hoisted on the club by the Glazers wheen they bought the club means all profits generated by the cclub go into servicing these enormous debts. This means the club HAS to qualify for the champios League every season in order to break even. Right now United cn not win the champions League and do not look like finishing fourth in the league to qualify for the champions league.. So how will the debts be serviced?
Nemanja Vidics contract will run out at the end of the season and there is talk of him refusing to renew his contract.
Wayne Rooneys contract runs out next season and he is also reluctant to renew his contract.
Robin Van Persie has complained about David Moyes archaic coaching and training methods that has left almost half the squad consistently and constantly injured.
Rio Ferdinand has also complained about Moyes silly tactic of not releasing team sheets till the last minute.
As far as I am concerned Moyes is gradually losing the dressing room and the board needs to act before it is too late.
Next season without champions league football will impact on United in a negative way.
David Moyes can not get this team into a champions league place and in all honesty I doubt the fans will remain behind him if he continues his losing streak over the next couple of weeks.

tess_1: Man Utd problems are
1. The players must take highest proportion of the blame because those players we believe would step up their games are really doing nothing.
2. Injuries to key players are not really helping matters as well.
3. Age is catching up with some players as well.
4. Players are making too many individual errors.

I am not expecting much from this squad this season. The only target for me is top 4. Then there should be quality reinforcement in the summer for us to move on.

david moyes is the root cause of all the problems you listed here. he's the one with the controllers - the players are just the players. will you blame the players on your FIFA 14 because you got whooped by the computer? hell no.

moyes has zero man management qualities.....he's divided the squad into two. he overuses the first group & he's frozen the second group out. the first group are fatigued & getting injured or tired, the second group are now rusty with no confidence.

age & injury are no excuses if moyes had simply used fergie's blueprint. fergie was rotating rio, fergie gave RVP a special training regime that made him complete 38 league games last season. injury to players is a direct outcome of the pre-historic training regime of david moyes!

moyes is why we are losing games like it's out of fashion. guess what? he still lies to the camera the players are doing well. he's not a leader of men. tactically, he's a disgrace! after sunderland went 2 goals up, he should have played all his attacking options & grab a draw or win - his first sub was fletcher. hernandez was brought on like the 85th minute. how do you explain such tactical daftness?

Oghos1: we all know this.

so has poyet, sherwood, sacked steve clark, alan pardew etc etc. Does that make them better candidates for the job now? not to talk of at d end of last season.
Its always easy to talk in hindsight.
Would u really have hired martinez if u were at the helm of affairs?seriously? At d end of last season! Be real.



u need to watch him play. Roma games aren't that hard to come by. that's all.

d way we went about the replacement process, wasnt good enof jare! I expected d board to hav interviewed atleast 3 pple( even if moyes was alws gonna be fergie's favorite). I believe a proper interview wlda exposed moyes' plan to sack the backroom staff d way he did

dademola: d way we went about the replacement process, wasnt good enof jare! I expected d board to hav interviewed atleast 3 pple( even if moyes was alws gonna be fergie's favorite). I believe a proper interview wlda exposed moyes' plan to sack the backroom staff d way he did

the transition process was crap, you are 1000% correct. david gill left, fergie left & the backroom staff all left. those changes are too much in one fell swoop.

the decision makers at OT missed a trick & this was exactly why i was rooting for jose in the summer. he's the master of steadying the ship. give jose 3 years, send solskjaer + neville + giggs to get their coaching badges & the necessary experience and then let them come back to take the reins from jose.

^^^^Debts debts debts bla bla bla.
Most of u av not even been following united's financial situation closely.
FYI the debt situation is not as bad as it was 2-3 years ago.
United are in a very strong financial position, believe it or not. Its d fact.
Of what use do u think d tons and tons of sponsors we've be signing are?
Record breaking sponsorship deals here and there.
In summary, a year without ucl football won't bring us to oir doom.

And yes, believe it or not united were willing to spend 80m on bale OR 60 on ronaldo last summer.
Bale only preferred a move abroad and Ronaldo just didn't want to move.
Lyk I said believe it or not.

D only major loss there would be rooney.
And he is replaceable.
Difficult but very possible.
Good central defenders aren't hard to find.

If d worst gets to d worst, moyes gets dismissed and klopp(already being disillusioned with d bandesliga for obvious reasons) and mayb diego simeone.
Neither of them were available at d end of last season.

Oghos1: ^^^^Debts debts debts bla bla bla.
Most of u av not even been following united's financial situation closely.
FYI the debt situation is not as bad as it was 2-3 years ago.
United are in a very strong financial position, believe it or not. Its d fact.
Of what use do u think d tons and tons of sponsors we've be signing are?
Record breaking sponsorship deals here and there.
In summary, a year without ucl football won't bring us to oir doom.

And yes, believe it or not united were willing to spend 80m on bale OR 60 on ronaldo last summer.
Bale only preferred a move abroad and Ronaldo just didn't want to move.
Lyk I said believe it or not.

D only major loss there would be rooney.
And he is replaceable.
Difficult but very possible.
Good central defenders aren't hard to find.

If d worst gets to d worst, moyes gets dismissed and klopp(already being disillusioned with d bandesliga for obvious reasons) and mayb diego simeone.
Neither of them were available at d end of last season.

as at that time,none of them wlda turned down the opportunity to be manager of the biggest sporting institution in the world!!

dademola: d way we went about the replacement process, wasnt good enof jare! I expected d board to hav interviewed atleast 3 pple( even if moyes was alws gonna be fergie's favorite). I believe a proper interview wlda exposed moyes' plan to sack the backroom staff d way he did

Fergie's reasons at that time were plain obvious and straightforward at that time.
Again its always easy to talk from hindsight.
Moyes had been at everton for years and they weren't playing badly.
They were a very hard side to beat.
And they even cracked d top 4 once.
All with limited budget.

That's y I just laff when people compare martinez and moyes based on their work with everton alone and still find ways to favour martinez.
Revenues skyrocketed in this past season and that has left d average premier league club with much more money to spend.
I need not xplain further

dademola: as at that time,none of them wlda turned down the opportunity to be manager of the biggest sporting institution in the world!!

U r mistaken

In Moyes we continue to RUST.