Prickasso, you were quick to quote whoscored.

Could you please tell the house how many times Yaya Toure played as an AM for city according to whoscored?

Nihilist:
Listen here Prickasso, Toure and Ramsey played exactly the same position in the majority of the season - in central midfield.

No need getting your knickers in a twist, boy.By your logic, Angel Di Maria and Xabi Alonso played the same position since they were both playing in Central midfield.You are a lost cause!

Nihilist:

Listen here Prickasso, Toure and Ramsey played exactly the same position in the majority of the season - in central midfield.

This PrickAssO chap isn't very bright, is he?

pkasso: No need getting your knickers in a twist, boy.By your logic, Angel Di Maria and Xabi Alonso played the same position since they were both playing in Central midfield.You are a lost cause!

Prickasso tell us how many games whoscored says Toure played as an AM

coogar:

because a midfielder that gets to take penalties regularly will outscore the one that doesn't. it's simple logic. it means toure could play shyte all day & score a hatrick. all he has to do is score from 12 yards with only the goalie to beat.


dietmar hamann
"yaya toure is a defensive liability"

Didi Hamman is not even qualified to talk about Yaya Toure.

Yaya Toure has 6 league winners medals in 4 countries and has won African best 3 times...

Didi should go away and reflect on his less illustrious career.

Nihilist:
Didi Hamman is not even qualified to talk about Yaya Toure.

Yaya Toure has 6 league winners medals in 4 countries and has won African best 3 times...

Didi should go away and reflect on his less illustrious career.

yaya toure was fighting dengue fever in abidjan when hamann was destroying the mighty ac milan in 2005 final of the champions league.

ritchboy:

This PrickAssO chap isn't very bright, is he?

Not at all.

Pkasso I see you viewing this thread. You were so quick to quote whoscored earlier.

Please tell us how many games Toure played as an AM.

Dadehmola:

What was toure's starting position for city in virtually all games last season?

Toure started in Central midfield.In a basic 442 formation, there is always an attack-minded midfielder paired with a destroyer to break up play.Very rarely do teams employ two destroyers in the middle of the park.Which effectively makes Toure a CAM and Fernandinho a CDM.

pkasso: Toure started in Central midfield.In a basic 442 formation, there is always an attack-minded midfielder paired with a destroyer to break up play.Very rarely do teams employ two destroyers in the middle of the park.Which effectively makes Toure a CAM and Fernandinho a CDM.

That's not what whoscored said is it?

Tell us what whoscored said PrickAssHole!!!

Before Mata signed for United and even afterwards, Moyes lined his boys up in a 442

Pkasso can you please tell us who was the CDM and who was the CAM?

ritchboy:

This PrickAssO chap isn't very bright, is he?

Where on NL do i know this attention-seeking biatch? Guy clear road make better people pass.



Coogar, abeg help me school these boys.Vidal is the Truth!

pkasso: Where on NL do i know this attention-seeking biatch? Guy clear road make better people pass.



Coogar, abeg help me school these boys.Vidal is the Truth!

Lol are you begging for help from your oga at the top?

pkasso: Toure started in Central midfield.In a basic 442 formation, there is always an attack-minded midfielder paired with a destroyer to break up play.Very rarely do teams employ two destroyers in the middle of the park.Which effectively makes Toure a CAM and Fernandinho a CDM.

Okay...

How was this different from Ramsey's default role?

Nihilist: Before Mata signed for United and even afterwards, Moyes lined his boys up in a 442
Pkasso can you please tell us who was the CDM and who was the CAM?

pkasso: Very rarely do teams employ two destroyers in the middle of the park.

Clearly, a case of the above.No attacking midfielder in the setup.

afrodoc:

Lol are you begging for help from your oga at the top?

Lol I don't even know coogar from Adam! He was buttressing my point of Yaya being a defensive liability.

pkasso:



Clearly, a case of the above.No attacking midfielder in the setup.

Can you just answer the questions we asked?

How many times did Toure play as an AM according to your reference source?

And who was CAM and CDM in united's 442 last season?

Yaya Toure is not a defensive liability, he has played CM,CDM and even CB with distinction in the past.

Vidal played less matches than Toure yet he committed more fouls 74 fouls to Yaya Toure's 39 and Vidal was dribbled 54 times to Toure's 43.
These stats alone show that Vidal is more of a defensive liability than you think and is a potential yellow card machine in the faster paced EPL.

Nihilist:

Can you just answer the questions we asked?

How many times did Toure play as an AM according to your reference source?

And who was CAM and CDM in united's 442 last season?

Let me help pkasso though i don't know him from Adam

According to his source Whoscored.com Toure played as a CM 24 times, as a CDM 9 times and as CAM only 5 times.
Also Toure's best stats were as a CM and CDM......he scored 0 goals and made only 1 assist as a CAM

afrodoc:
Let me help pkasso though i don't know him from Adam

Acoording to his source Toure played as a CM 24 times, as a CDM 9 times and as CAM only 5 times.
Also Toure's best stats were as a CM and CDM......he scored 0 goals and made only 1 assist as a CAM

Abeg leave matter for Mathias my able doctor.

While Man dey dodge Ebola for real life, prikasso is trying to bring e-bola to the internet.

I just tire for the en own kind of gbolo

afrodoc:
Let me help pkasso though i don't know him from Adam

According to his source Whoscored.com Toure played as a CM 24 times, as a CDM 9 times and as CAM only 5 times.
Also Toure's best stats were as a CM and CDM......he scored 0 goals and made only 1 assist as a CAM

Fail! 442 was City's default formation for most of last season.His stats in CAM are clearly from a 4231.

pkasso: Fail! 442 was City's default formation for most of last season.His stats in CAM are clearly from a 4231.

Really?

pkasso: Fail! 442 was City's default formation for most of last season.His stats in CAM are clearly from a 4231.

Oh great picasso we are merely quoting the same source you quoted. Are you saying they are right in some matters and wrong in other matters?
If so who decides when we are to believe them and when we are to ignore them? You?

Whoscored which you quoted so confidently earlier on said that Toure played CDM and CM 33 times and played CAM just 5 times. Or you don't believe in Whoscored again? Are you now an unbeliever?

afrodoc: Yaya Toure is not a defensive liability, he has played CM,CDM and even CB with distinction in the past.

no he hasn't.....
in fergie's final days - i saw tom cleverley reenacting the barbaric act of slavery against yaya toure at the etihad. which distinction? what was toure's contribution to the barcelona team that won 2009 champions league? if barca had yobo in toure's position on the night, they would still have won the cup.

Vidal played less matches than Toure yet he committed more fouls 74 fouls to Yaya Toure's 39 and Vidal was dribbled 54 times to Toure's 43.

because vidal is an all-action midfielder. he tackles as many times as he creates chances. he's the latino roy keane. toure's ašs is covered by fernandinho & gareth barry(penultimate season).

These stats alone show that Vidal is more of a defensive liability than you think and is a potential yellow card machine in the faster paced EPL.

that's a very shaky way to analyse statistics. the italian league is very combative. vidal was the anchor of the juventus midfield that won 33 league games, losing only 2 games.

on the attacking side of things, vidal created more & assisted more pro rata. so what does toure have over vidal apart from being a cry baby that wants to flee cos he wasn't wished a happy birthday?

coogar:

no he hasn't.....
in fergie's final days - i saw tom cleverley reenacting the barbaric act of slavery against yaya toure at the etihad. which distinction? what was toure's contribution to the barcelona team that won 2009 champions league? if barca had yobo in toure's position on the night, they would still have won the cup.



because vidal is an all-action midfielder. he tackles as many times as he creates chances. he's the latino roy keane. toure's ašs is covered by fernandinho & gareth barry(penultimate season).



that's a very shaky way to analyse statistics. the italian league is very combative. vidal was the anchor of the juventus midfield that won 33 league games, losing only 2 games.

on the attacking side of things, vidal created more & assisted more pro rata. so what does toure have over vidal apart from being a cry baby that wants to flee cos he wasn't wished a happy birthday?

That does not explain his being dribbled almost 2 times per match and committing 2.3 fouls per match( Toure's stats were 1.2 and 1.1 respectively). That is the definition of defensive liability.
If you add the fact that Vidal turned the ball over 41 times compared to Toure's 28 and Vidal was also dispossessed 44 times compared to Toure's 31 ALL THESE while starting 7 matches less than Toure then we can have a better idea of who the liability is

Vidal better than Toure?

Coog have you finally travelled to the States?

I like Vidal and want him to come to United if he is fit and can remain injury free. However that doesn't mean we sholud rubbish all the others who have done it. I have seen people here denigrating Toure and Fabregas just because Vidal is the flavor of the month.

afrodoc:
That does not explain his being dribbled almost 2 times per match and committing 2.3 fouls per match( Toure's stats were 1.2 and 1.1 respectively). That is the definition of defensive liability.
If you add the fact that Vidal turned the ball over 41 times compared to Toure's 28 and Vidal was also dispossessed 44 times compared to Toure's 31 ALL THESE while starting 7 matches less than Toure then we can have a better idea of who the liability is

toure is the liability.
vidal is combative. he destroys as much as he creates. only roy keane had such attributes & scholes to some extent. scholes can't tackle to save a life & yet he's no liability.

this is how vidal measures to toni kroos who many would choose over toure when push comes to a shove.



in the statistics that matter again, vidal beats kroos to a pulp.

City started last season with a 442 with Toure and Fernandinho in midfield flanked by two of either Silva, Nasri or Navas with Aguero playing slightly behind Dzeko/Negredo.This formation was employed 19 times.Meaning Yaya is a CAM in theory with the formation looking like a 4132 when City break forward.Navas, Silva and Nasri rarely start together in a 4231, so how i don't understand how Toure plays as CDM.A double-pivot at City is more likely to be Garcia-Fernandinho with Yaya up front with Silva and Nasri.

coogar:

no he hasn't.....
in fergie's final days - i saw tom cleverley reenacting the barbaric act of slavery against yaya toure at the etihad. which distinction? what was toure's contribution to the barcelona team that won 2009 champions league? if barca had yobo in toure's position on the night, they would still have won the cup.



because vidal is an all-action midfielder. he tackles as many times as he creates chances. he's the latino roy keane. toure's ašs is covered by fernandinho & gareth barry(penultimate season).



that's a very shaky way to analyse statistics. the italian league is very combative. vidal was the anchor of the juventus midfield that won 33 league games, losing only 2 games.

on the attacking side of things, vidal created more & assisted more pro rata. so what does toure have over vidal apart from being a cry baby that wants to flee cos he wasn't wished a happy birthday?

Thats to show you the yeyerity of the league. How many matches has Juve lost in the league last 3 years? This same Juve team that struggles almost yearly to reach knock out stages of UCL.

pkasso: City started last season with a 442 with Toure and Fernandinho in midfield flanked by two of either Silva, Nasri or Navas with Aguero playing slightly behind Dzeko/Negredo.This formation was employed 19 times.Meaning Yaya is a CAM in theory with the formation looking like a 4132 when City break forward.Navas, Silva and Nasri rarely start together in a 4231, so how i don't understand how Toure plays as CDM.A double-pivot at City is more likely to be Garcia-Fernandinho with Yaya up front with Silva and Nasri.

Your argument should be with your source Whoscored, not here. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO GAVE THE POSITION STATS

In theory

Petr Cech is a striker in theory

John Terry is a winger in theory

And Beyoncé is my girlfriend in theory.

Life in theory is so much better than the real world.

pkasso: City started last season with a 442 with Toure and Fernandinho in midfield flanked by two of either Silva, Nasri or Navas with Aguero playing slightly behind Dzeko/Negredo.This formation was employed 19 times.Meaning Yaya is a CAM in theory with the formation looking like a 4132 when City break forward.Navas, Silva and Nasri rarely start together in a 4231, so how i don't understand how Toure plays as CDM.A double-pivot at City is more likely to be Garcia-Fernandinho with Yaya up front with Silva and Nasri.

pkasso: City started last season with a 442 with Toure and Fernandinho in midfield flanked by two of either Silva, Nasri or Navas with Aguero playing slightly behind Dzeko/Negredo.This formation was employed 19 times.Meaning Yaya is a CAM in theory with the formation looking like a 4132 when City break forward.Navas, Silva and Nasri rarely start together in a 4231, so how i don't understand how Toure plays as CDM.A double-pivot at City is more likely to be Garcia-Fernandinho with Yaya up front with Silva and Nasri.

pkasso: City started last season with a 442 with Toure and Fernandinho in midfield flanked by two of either Silva, Nasri or Navas with Aguero playing slightly behind Dzeko/Negredo.This formation was employed 19 times.Meaning Yaya is a CAM in theory with the formation looking like a 4132 when City break forward.Navas, Silva and Nasri rarely start together in a 4231, so how i don't understand how Toure plays as CDM.A double-pivot at City is more likely to be Garcia-Fernandinho with Yaya up front with Silva and Nasri.

afrodoc:

Thats to show you the yeyerity of the league. How many matches has Juve lost in the league last 3 years? This same Juve team that struggles almost yearly to reach knock out stages of UCL.

same as man city!
toure has been at man city for how many seasons now - where has he taken city to in europe? they have been beaten bluish blackish by nearly all the teams they have faced in europe. they have finished at the bottom of the group about twice....

vidal is the truth!
this is exactly what we need in our midfield, a raging bulldog who would kill off the opposition while scoring or assisting via his killer passes.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2Header.jpg[/img]

see how busy this player gets in the middle of the pack. rooney wouldn't even need to track back again.

[img]http://164.177.157.12/img/blog/2014%2f7%2fVidal2.jpg[/img]

he has scored 28 goals in serie a. the highest of any midfielder since he moved to italy. who does this guy remind you of? he tackles more than tiote & scores as many as ramsey.....this is the new keane!

van gaal would be stüpid not to pay £50m for this lad.