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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:28pm On Aug 18, 2014
SailorXY: this definitely is not human anatomy
if your vehicle is a BMW X6M that has provision for you to drive not faster than 100km/h when your tires are flat, do you now continue running on flats for the whole year simply becuz its possible for you to move on flats?
how do you expect to sprint to your duties or even win a race when you just simply like to show the world that you have superior wheels?

what changes will your upgrades in engine or transmission box mean when you still haven't first taken care of your flat tyreshuh
LOL who said it was anatomy? And it also is not Auto Engineering, your analogy was way out there.
I was just pointing to the contradiction in your earlier statement. Why are you complaining of lack of quality in DM position when according to you we have always succeeded with lack of quality?
My point is wherever there is poor quality we need to improve on it and go for world class talent. The argument that we always succeeded with low quality is misleading as there are so many more top quality teams to combat now. The EPL is no longer a 1 or 2 horse race
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 10:28pm On Aug 18, 2014
Dadehmola: Are we going for vidal because we need to "screen the back four"?

We could as well go for a player like matic or fernando..
we may go for someone who's not even flashy, just a fine tackler with ability to drop off the ball decently to the next man. the good thing about such players is that they more often than not, pack a ferocious shot as well... which is always a welcome addition.
Nigel de Jong will serve us just fine, even its for this season. we need to steady our ship first after last season's capitulation; before we start sailing. I will also welcome Vidal if we can get him, the squad quality depth can only be a good thing
& yes, we can steady it & sail too in one season: but first things first!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 10:45pm On Aug 18, 2014
afrodoc: LOL who said it was anatomy? And it also is not Auto Engineering, your analogy was way out there.
I was just pointing to the contradiction in your earlier statement. Why are you complaining of lack of quality in DM position when according to you we have always succeeded with lack of quality?
My point is wherever there is poor quality we need to improve on it and go for world class talent. The argument that we always succeeded with low quality is misleading as there are so many more top quality teams to combat now. The EPL is no longer a 1 or 2 horse race
now that flat tyre is our DM position which we have 'managing' since Keano. Michael Carrick has been successful so far but we all know he doesn't get here and there or throw mud in our opponent's faces. he hardly inspires fear of any kind, just a quiet effective guy: still we had a rock-like five behind! please don't ever for a second underestimate the experience & leadership qualities that has been lost with Evra, Rio, Vidic & van Der Sar.
now, we have 'potential' @ the back. its telling to say that Rafael & Evans are our most senior (experienced) defenders. the logical thing to do now is to 'change that clog in our wheel' first. Carrick is 33? Fletcher is just being honored as it stands, so why no effect that change for the greater good? before upgrading 'your transmission or brakes' grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:56pm On Aug 18, 2014
SailorXY: now that flat tyre is our DM position which we have 'managing' since Keano. Michael Carrick has been successful so far but we all know he doesn't get here and there or throw mud in our opponent's faces. he hardly inspires fear of any kind, just a quiet effective guy: still we had a rock-like five behind! please don't ever for a second underestimate the experience & leadership qualities that has been lost with Evra, Rio, Vidic & van Der Sar.
now, we have 'potential' @ the back. its telling to say that Rafael & Evans are our most senior (experienced) defenders. the logical thing to do now is to 'change that clog in our wheel' first. Carrick is 33? Fletcher is just being honored as it stands, so why no effect that change for the greater good? before upgrading 'your transmission or brakes' grin grin
If i was broke i would go your route, but since i am United and one of the biggest boys out there i won't be cutting and sewing or chopping and changing. I would upgrade transmission,change tires and fix any other issues immediately.....in fact if need be i will just go by the dealership and get another brand new car with a more powerful and reliable engine. Are u happy with ur auto analogy now?

This club is not broke, i don't see why we need to make improvements in a piecemeal fashion. By the time u buy a DM this season, a CB next season and they all settle in RVP and Rooney will be too old to contribute effectively then we need to start looking for another striker, by the time that one settles in Van Gaal will be planning to retire...........u see the trend?

If we decide that the problem we have right now is a CM,DM and CB then lets buy 2 or maybe 3 class players and not waste the last productive years of RVP and LVG replacing "flat tires" cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 10:58pm On Aug 18, 2014
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola:
SailorXY: now that flat tyre is our DM position which we have 'managing' since Keano. Michael Carrick has been successful so far but we all know he doesn't get here and there or throw mud in our opponent's faces. he hardly inspires fear of any kind, just a quiet effective guy: still we had a rock-like five behind! please don't ever for a second underestimate the experience & leadership qualities that has been lost with Evra, Rio, Vidic & van Der Sar.
now, we have 'potential' @ the back. its telling to say that Rafael & Evans are our most senior (experienced) defenders. the logical thing to do now is to 'change that clog in our wheel' first. Carrick is 33? Fletcher is just being honored as it stands, so why no effect that change for the greater good? before upgrading 'your transmission or brakes' grin grin
TBH, me thinks this DM issue should be downplayed a lil bit.

*Who do you think man united's midfield misses the most - scholes or keane?

*If you were to be in a position to strengthen our midfield and you had modric and maybe a matic as options to choose from, who would you go for?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by boyo44: 11:30pm On Aug 18, 2014
wat happen to Monaco in this transfer window they look inactive.They sold James without attempting to replace him with world class player.They are very quiet
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 6:16am On Aug 19, 2014
Rojo is a red
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 6:55am On Aug 19, 2014
Fussbot: @lekki i meant rojo is not any different from blackett like seriously
I am telling you Rojo will be the next darling of UTD fans - quote me on this any day. He is the sort of player that can raise the temperature of an arena with one crunching tackle . He is not short on confidence and by the time he gets familiar with this new environment, we will see how he will make his 'larger than life' presence felt. I foresee that young man taking over from where Vidic stopped; he will be made captain!

Yeah, I know its only Rojo (a largely unknown quantity) but I think we've found our man!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 6:57am On Aug 19, 2014
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 6:57am On Aug 19, 2014
Rojo confirms Dream man utd move
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BinghiNya(m): 7:01am On Aug 19, 2014
Nani out, that is a very welcome news. Nani is so good he is going out on loan
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 7:02am On Aug 19, 2014
afrodoc: There is too much pressure on Van Gaal to turn water to wine with this mediocre bunch we have here
Beautiful... You think LVG has pressure!!? Me thinks not. Because the kind of barrage David Moyes was getting at the moment from all corners of the globe compares to nothing this man is facing at the moment.

LVG is lucky... UTD fans are doing for him what they should have done for Moyes despite after SAF's appeals - making the job easier before making it harder !
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:12am On Aug 19, 2014
afrodoc: If i was broke i would go your route, but since i am United and one of the biggest boys out there i won't be cutting and sewing or chopping and changing. I would upgrade transmission,change tires and fix any other issues immediately.....in fact if need be i will just go by the dealership and get another brand new car with a more powerful and reliable engine. Are u happy with ur auto analogy now?

This club is not broke, i don't see why we need to make improvements in a piecemeal fashion. By the time u buy a DM this season, a CB next season and they all settle in RVP and Rooney will be too old to contribute effectively then we need to start looking for another striker, by the time that one settles in Van Gaal will be planning to retire...........u see the trend?

If we decide that the problem we have right now is a CM,DM and CB then lets buy 2 or maybe 3 class players and not waste the last productive years of RVP and LVG replacing "flat tires" cheesy
I don't choose to live in fantasy. if we had all those money(to spend) like the board goads us to believe, why have we never won a single to class talent (for about 6seasons now) when other teams compete. its not like we don't have the allure & all that. my 2cent says we don't have the *money* luxury.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:25am On Aug 19, 2014
Although its just one round of games but all our supposed rivals bar everton won their games.
Chelsea, Man city, Arsenal, Liverpool, tottenham, and Eveton.

Once again. Welcome Van Gaal!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 8:29am On Aug 19, 2014
Dadehmola: TBH, me thinks this DM issue should be downplayed a lil bit.

*Who do you think man united's midfield misses the most - scholes or keane?

*If you were to be in a position to strengthen our midfield and you had modric and maybe a matic as options to choose from, who would you go for?
there a players like Modric & Fabregas, who can bridge @ least half of what Scholes can do. what we haven't come close to replacing is Keane, & who the hell is Matic? he has problems moving his heavy body about.
if u had options of modric or schwein or Martinez for our middle now, who will be ur pick
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:46am On Aug 19, 2014
SailorXY: there a players like Modric & Fabregas, who can bridge @ least half of what Scholes can do. what we haven't come close to replacing is Keane, & who the hell is Matic? he has problems moving his heavy body about.
if u had options of modric or schwein or Martinez for our middle now, who will be ur pick
Schwein sharpally!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 8:47am On Aug 19, 2014
SailorXY: there a players like Modric & Fabregas, who can bridge @ least half of what Scholes can do. what we haven't come close to replacing is Keane, & who the hell is Matic? he has problems moving his heavy body about.
if u had options of modric or schwein or Martinez for our middle now, who will be ur pick
I'd pick modric 200 times over and over again.

If we had a "midfield dictator" half as good as he is, our midfield won't be in its present state.

You haven't answered my question: for scholes and keane- who we dey miss pass?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:05am On Aug 19, 2014
Rojo has managed to pick up 21 yellow cards and 4 red cards in 49 league games. shocked

The guy's temper is a serious concern.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by royale442(m): 9:13am On Aug 19, 2014
Dadehmola: I'd pick modric 200 times over and over again.

If we had a "midfield dictator" half as good as he is, our midfield won't be in its present state.

You haven't answered my question: for scholes and keane- who we dey miss pass?
we've missed scholes the more.
after Keane left, we have won loads of silverware with scholes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 10:46am On Aug 19, 2014
royale442: we've missed scholes the more.
after Keane left, we have won loads of silverware with scholes.
it is easy to say becuz Keane was the first to leave
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 10:53am On Aug 19, 2014
Dadehmola: I'd pick modric 200 times over and over again.

If we had a "midfield dictator" half as good as he is, our midfield won't be in its present state.

You haven't answered my question: for scholes and keane- who we dey miss pass?
we've missed them both because its been regression in quality since Keane left. they complemented each other & they both did it with their backs in. however, Keane's presence was enough menace even to put off Vieira - as stoutly built as the Frenchman was. to replace such command, poise, confidence & quality is never easy. opposing players will think twice before trying to bully Kagawa or Mata or Januzaj if such a presence is also on that pitch
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 10:56am On Aug 19, 2014
SailorXY: I don't choose to live in fantasy. if we had all those money(to spend) like the board goads us to believe, why have we never won a single to class talent (for about 6seasons now) when other teams compete. its not like we don't have the allure & all that. my 2cent says we don't have the *money* luxury.
Money we have allure we don't most of our transfer target alway end up in places with better lifestyle think Madrid,Barcelona and worse London.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ElFenomeno1: 10:56am On Aug 19, 2014
leggo: Rojo is a red card waiting to happen
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 10:58am On Aug 19, 2014
chrisley024: Rojo has managed to pick up 21 yellow cards and 4 red cards in 49 league games. shocked

The guy's temper is a serious concern.
we need that fiercely figure on the pitch as well
Rooney used to be fierce & vocal, but these days he's like cold pap.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:04am On Aug 19, 2014
SIRcumalot: Money we have allure we don't most of our transfer target alway end up in places with better lifestyle think Madrid,Barcelona and worse London.
better lifestyle my flat azz
so Silva is living in a better city presently? nasri too? toure left the boring Barcelona for the wet Manchester, no?
abeg bone levels jare
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 11:18am On Aug 19, 2014
chrisley024: Rojo has managed to pick up 21 yellow cards and 4 red cards in 49 league games. shocked

The guy's temper is a serious concern.
Nope. Not temper... this is exactly something we need; a 'fighter', 'warrior'... a "I-will-beat-the-living-day-light-out-of-your-b!tch-a$$-if-you-come-forming-papparazi-in-my-hood" type n!gga!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 11:18am On Aug 19, 2014
SailorXY: we need that fiercely figure on the pitch as well
Rooney used to be fierce & vocal, but these days he's like cold pap.
Not really. The guy is actually not better than what we have in the middle of defence right now. No point being fierce if you lack discipline which he does without great quality to boot. Total panic buy. Atleast he adds bodies i guess.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 11:19am On Aug 19, 2014
SailorXY: better lifestyle my flat azz
so Silva is living in a better city presently? nasri too? toure left the boring Barcelona for the wet Manchester, no?
abeg bone levels jare
How truly committed was Utd in buying Silva,Toure(surplus to requirement at Barca)
When we wanted RVP we got him (who city wanted)
Now look at the players we lost to Madrid Modric,Kross and Bale all this players we wanted they all picked Madrid over us
Am by know means suggesting that the groovy life in Madrid is the deciding factor but this player take this into consideration
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:23am On Aug 19, 2014
RuuDie: Nope. Not temper... this is exactly something we need; a 'fighter', 'warrior'... a "I-will-beat-the-living-day-light-out-of-your-b!tch-a$$-if-you-come-forming-papparazi-in-my-hood" type n!gga!!!
our biggest issue is our injury curse. we can sign the whole madrid players & barca players, of what use would they be if they cannot be fit to play. as we speak, we have 8 or 9 first team players injured & that has been the case for more than 7 seasons now.

according to injuryroom, this has been our record since 06/07. the importance of the player injured is put in the bracket

2007/08 - 8th worst (6th worst)
2008/09 - 7th worst (3rd worst)
2009/10 - 3rd worst (2nd worst)
2010/11 - 7th worst (5th worst)
2011/12 - 1st worst (1st worst)
2012/13 - 5th worst (5th worst)
2013/14 - 7th worst (2nd worst)

how can we compete with this kinda horrible luck? the season has barely started and we are 2nd worst already. we need to address this ish. we lost the league in 11/12 cos of injuries.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 11:28am On Aug 19, 2014
SailorXY: we've missed them both because its been regression in quality since Keane left. they complemented each other & they both did it with their backs in.
..Yet we have seen scholes partner the "ajebutter" carrick to great effect!

SailorXY: however, Keane's presence was enough menace even to put off Vieira - as stoutly built as the Frenchman was. to replace such command, poise, confidence & quality is never easy.
That's why I'd rather say we have missed keane's on-field leadership qualities, not necessarily his tactical importance.

SailorXY: opposing players will think twice before trying to bully Kagawa or Mata or Januzaj if such a presence is also on that pitch
These players excelled at their former clubs without necessarily having a feisty roy keane instilling fear in opponents.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 11:34am On Aug 19, 2014
Really! What will satisfy you guys?

If chelsea buys him now and he performs very well, una go dey say why we no buy am.. Una don dey analyse wetin person go play before he touch ball

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