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mcfarlin:
Hardly any winger in europe's top leagues who aint better than that hunchback

Even some players in the backwater leagues will play better than he does.

Hahahahaha

Shirley07:
I dey wait na.

Tomorrow.

mcfarlin:
All those players have a better end product ratio viz a viz goal/assists than eden hazard.

Even neymar is better.

How can you tell that it's not their solid team tha help them, based on your theory?

elampiro:
Suarez
CF= app 31 . Gls/assist 32/11
FL= 3..........1goal/0 assist
FR= 1..........0 assist 1 goal

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/22221/





I have told you. You didn't watch these games. Suarez was Liverpool number one centre forward. They also played fluid games. Sometimes two man forward as we had in Old Trafford.



Bye.







Ayagayagayagayo hei, ayagayagayagayo.

* Shirley07, the above came up in the summer and it was established that Suarez played the centre forward 31 times for Liverpool. This was from whoscored.com players' summary at the end of last season.
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For further imformation on Liverpool's formation last season.

* Check whoscored.com Liverpool most used eleven playera, Suarez was in the number 9- as the most used in that position.

* Liverpool used dominantly 4-3-3 last season. With Sterling on the left of the front three, Suarez in the middle as the number 9 and Sturridge on the left.

* 4-3-3 was used 14 times. 4-2-3-1 9times, 4-1-2-1-2 7times. 3-4-1-2 3times, 3-5-2 2times, 4-4-2 2times and 4-3-2-1 1time,
In all of these there was no times Sterling played the number 9 as you claimed. Suarez
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* http://www.whoscored.com/Teams/26/Archive/England-Liverpool

You can verify everthing in the above link. You will even see that contrary to your claim, Sterling never played centre forward.

Shirley07. See some Liverpool matches and look at Suarez as the number 9 striker.



Arent you entertained?

before this week...

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WC comparison

Di Maria is a great player.

The speed at which he played gave him advantage over Hazard. Pace and Power.

elampiro:
How can you tell that it's not their solid team tha help them, based on your theory?

Has hazard showed any level of consistency to show he's a world beater??

Remember neymar is younger than he is?.

mcfarlin:
All those players have a better end product ratio viz a viz goal/assists than eden hazard.

Even neymar is better.

i know this is going to rile coogar up but how many of hazard chances did super torres convert ?

SailorXY:
@Chrisley024
how do you think Rojo fared today @ CB?

Paddy still did better than him the 2nd time. Paddy put Lukaku in his pocket while Naismith he was supposed to hold tight scored unmarked. Was also caught out of position for Osman's strike that DDG saved

mcfarlin:
Has hazard showed any level of consistency to show he's a world beater??

Remember neymar is younger than he is?.

I am not sure I know what you mean by world beater.

As for me, Hazard is world class. I love his game from inception. I like players who can dribble with ease.Dribbling is natural to his game. Hazard is not the kind of players who will give you goals, but he take away men from the road in numbers and deliver the meal for his team mates.

I believe Hazard will perform better in a league like la liga than he's presently doing. Presently, his dancing around the pitch is very inefficient; compared to Fabregas who is seriously delivering key passes and assists.

I still don't see Hazard as a big threat to opponents. He is easily contained, and mostly goes anonymous when the heat is on.

chrisley024:
Paddy still did better than him the 2nd time. Paddy put Lukaku in his pocket while Naismith he was supposed to hold tight scored unmarked. Was also caught out of position for Osman's strike that DDG saved

I didn't real pay attention to the CBs movements. But I saw that Rojo was the 3rd player nominated for MOTM with Di Maria and DDG.

elampiro:
I didn't real pay attention to the CBs movements. But I saw that Rojo was the 3rd player nominated for MOTM with Di Maria and DDG.

Which site is that? When we've Rafael. Before DDG's saves, it would have been Di maria then Rafael.

Btw, Paddy was rated higher than Rojo.

chrisley024:
Which site is that? When we've Rafael. Before DDG's saves, it would have been Di maria then Rafael.

Btw, Paddy was rated higher than Rojo.

The club official site.

MaziOmenuko:
I believe Hazard will perform better in a league like la liga than he's presently doing. Presently, his dancing around the pitch is very inefficient; compared to Fabregas who is seriously delivering key passes and assists.

I still don't see Hazard as a big threat to opponents. He is easily contained, and mostly goes anonymous when the heat is on.

Hazard Inefficient? Are you serious? He is the one doing the killer job for Chelsea. Football is not about statistics or theory.

* If football were to be about stat, Fabregas would have been retained in Barca and Iniester sold to QPR.
* If football were to be about stat, Robben would have same value as Lewandowski and Gotze.
* If football were to be about stat, Sanchez would be in be in Barca now commanding a regular shirt.

Sometimes players who have high stats in goals and assist are not as important as some others doing the killings.

elampiro:
The club official site.

Well, their criteria is best known to them cos I'm yet to see why. Votes were from followers of @ManUtd on Twitter and MUTV viewers.

elampiro:
Hazard Inefficient? Are you serious? He is the one doing the killer job for Chelsea. Football is not about statistics or theory.

Yet you conveniently pull up those stats to defend your stand when it suits you!

Ironically, I never talked about stats, nor did I present any. I'm just saying from my own observation, Fabregas has been of more effect than Hazard, and his dancing around the pitch with the ball will only get him injured one of these days.

Seven penalties given against us in 2014 already. Bad luck or what?

@elampiro, between Silva and Hazard who will u choose?

chrisley024:
Well, their criteria is best known to them cos I'm yet to see why. Votes were from followers of @ManUtd on Twitter and MUTV viewers.

Have they finsihed voting for the shorlisted three players? I didnt follow up again sef.

Whoscored gave it to Di Maria. 9.4 MOTM
DDG 8.0
Falcao 7.9 (goal + clearance offline)
Rafael 7.4

McNair was rated higher than Rojo.

SIRcumalot:
i know this is going to rile coogar up but how many of hazard chances did super torres convert ?

why should it rile me up - about 40% of those chances are from set plays...

chrisley024:
Paddy still did better than him the 2nd time. Paddy put Lukaku in his pocket while Naismith he was supposed to hold tight scored unmarked. Was also caught out of position for Osman's strike that DDG saved

McNair was the natural person to be on Lukaku who was drifting to the left, as a matter of fact it was deliberate targeting the supposed rookie in the heart of our defence!

Rojo's job was to mop while his partner pressed, so I don't know what you're on about. Naismith played as a CM in first half & as No. 10 in second half, how is it Rojo's job to mark him?

the organization @ the back is still suspect & can only be improved by consistent pairings, & it won't happen soon cuz there's still chops & changes to be made yet. this has nothing to with individual abilities.

for now, we may just make do with scoring more than the opposition

leggo:
Seven penalties given against us in 2014 already. Bad luck or what?

+non awarded
we've been denied about 3 clear PKs this season

SailorXY:
+non awarded
we've been denied about 3 clear PKs this season

to borrow a line from rival fans: there is a conspiracy against us!

MaziOmenuko:
Yet you conveniently pull up those stats to defend your stand when it suits you!

Ironically, I never talked about stats, nor did I present any. I'm just saying from my own observation, Fabregas has been of more effect than Hazard, and his dancing around the pitch with the ball will only get him injured one of these days.

Because he assists? Remove Hazard and Chelsea will be far less feared by opponents.

* If I wanted to pull stats I would just give you their whoscored ratings. You see Hazard rated best for Chelsea last season and rated higher than Fab this season despite poor stats. You see Iniester rated far higher than Fab and Sanchez last season depsite having far inferior stats. You see Robben rated far higher than Gotze and Lewandowsky now depsite having similar stats.

This goes to show the overall efficiency of these players I listed- Hazard, Robben and Iniester. I have been a fan of Robben for many years and same way I like Hazard. But Hazard only problem is his lack of super speed. If he had even the speed of Ramires, he would be a better player than Bale.

leggo:
to borrow a line from rival fans: there is a conspiracy against us!

We should have been second now.

chrisley024:
@elampiro, between Silva and Hazard who will u choose?

I like Hazard, Silva and Sterling. I have always liked them all.

But I pick Hazard as the best among the three.

elampiro:
Because he assists? Remove Hazard and Chelsea will be far less feared by opponents.

Remove Fabregas and we all would be discussing how Torres was better than Costa! Its a fact: leave the responsibility of creating chances for Hazard and you'll see a struggling chelsea this season. When you dance around with the ball, your strikers will keep running into offside and eventually get frustrated.

I believe Torres would have fared better if he had Fab behind him as Costa is presently enjoying.

chrisley024:
@elampiro, between Silva and Hazard who will u choose?

Compare like for like. silva and iniesta..

elampiro:
We should have been second now.

'pundits' will ignore all this bad calls now, but the moment the decisions go our way they start looking for dives 'ref intimidation' and what not

MaziOmenuko:
Remove Fabregas and we all would be discussing how Torres was better than Costa! Its a fact:

That's because fabregas was the one creating chances for costa at Athletico with the kinda agbero football they are known for abi?

MaziOmenuko:
leave the responsibility of creating chances for Hazard and you'll see a struggling chelsea this season. When you dance around with the ball, your strikers will keep running into offside and eventually get frustrated.

Hazard is a tactical dribbler of the ball - his dribbles create space in the opposition's defence for his team mates to exploit.

MaziOmenuko:
I believe Torres would have fared better if he had Fab behind him as Costa is presently enjoying.

Even if Chelsea bought 10 fabrepasses, it wouldnt have improved toress' form. The earlier you stopped thinking about the toress at Liverpool, the better. No be the same toress wey dey miss empty net at Chelsea??

As we speak, toress isn't better than Connor wickham.