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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 1:21pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:are you interested in zigzag football or productivity? how many times has 6 successful dribbles per match led to 17 Chelshit goal's? he dribbles panties Wenger parades & suddenly dribbling is new invention? |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:23pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:36 dribbles and hasn't scored more than Herrera. Silva ofcourse will get dispossed more than someone who spends most times on the flank. Silva is seen everywhere on the pitch. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:23pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:is di maria not a winger? is silva not a winger? how come silva & hazard are both inverted wingers but hazard has no through pass in 7 league games? |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:24pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
SailorXY:He was Chelsea's top player last season in terms of goals and assists. But most importantly the EPL players voted him as one of the best XI. Your opinion doesnt matter anymore. ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:27pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:how many of those goals were awoof penalties? why wasn't he chelsea's top player when mata was there? it seems to me hazard only became a top player after mata left. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 1:27pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:just as Mata was always voted above him irrespective of not dancing unnecessarily around the pitch ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:32pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
coogar:This is not important sef. EPL players told us Hazard is the best between the two. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:34pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:popularity contest - they told us bale was better than nani too in 10/11 & that ryan giggs at 36 was better than ronaldo(best player in the world) in 2009. ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MaziOmenuko: 1:35pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:Unfortunately, I don't depend on the stats to do my analysis. I've watched Silva wreck havoc even without scoring or making an assist; I've seen hazard dance so much and end up frustrating his forwards. Silva is far more effective than Hazard. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:37pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
SailorXY:What is always there? They played only one season. It was Hazard's first season. What happened when 'the special one' arrived? ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:39pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:the special one won nothing - he had to quickly go & buy fabregas to save his job. ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:40pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
MaziOmenuko: You were saying Silva keeps possession, I just exposed him how weak he is in keeping possession when compared to Hazard. What you watch is not even important sef sef because you are a mediocre in football. The professionals have spoke twice. Hazard is better. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 1:44pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:yeah specially compared to Moyes last season ... & Moyes even won something ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:44pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
coogar:Fabregas who won nothing at Arsenal and had to be a passenger at Barca. Last season he left Barca to zero trophy. Abegi Lampard could have done this job with Costa around. ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:49pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:that's not the point..... when mata was at chelsea, he won champions league & fa cup even before hazard arrived. hazard arrived & they both won the europa cup. can you see the gradual decline? then mourinho came and sidelined mata....he later sold mata & made hazard his ace player. he relied on hazard to deliver the holy grail. after a horrendous performance against athletico where hazard's stupïdity cost chelsea another european final, chelsea won nothing that season - the first time jose would fail to win a trophy in england. having seen hazard is a bad market, jose quickly went to spain to buy cesc..... ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MaziOmenuko: 2:02pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:Ok oh! I guess if we pull up Mikel's stats and he happened to be dispossessed fewer times than Hazard, then we can summarily say that Mikel is better than Hazard abi? No qualms. Not to mention the fact that even the worse goal-keeper is never dispossessed of the ball, your yardstick for measuring is ideal! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:06pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
The way Elampiro reasons is far beyond me, see below one of his posts: Silva has been dribbled 20 times by other players this season. Hazard only 4. Hazard even has more play time than Silva.He tried to support his assertion with the above post, imagine, Hazard vs Silva argument o, not Vidal vs Matic or Rafael vs Ivanovic. Nawa o! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:13pm On Oct 06, 2014*. Modified: 2:32pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
nitrogen: This is looking at the overall situation. If you said somone can keep the ball, you have to prove it in relation to how many times he tries to dribble/keep the ball visavis his unseccessful dribbling o rlosing the ball. It's very valid |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:15pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
MaziOmenuko:Mikel is not adventorous. He doesn't dribble or keep the ball in dangerous areas. He has no reason to give any one to measure his unseccesful dribbling or getting dispossed by defenders. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:21pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
coogar:When Mata came, Chelsea had Drogba, Cole and Lampard still having some respectable degree of sharpness. Malouda, Kalao, Meimeres. These guys had experience in the Champions league and that got them through. But they finished 6th in the league because the players were aging. The next season the team was blended with old and new members. A Chelsea side was expected to have no problems in Europa. Moses' inclusion was also vital (with his 4 goals in the cup) and Banitez needed to prove a point. They got higher on the league with quicker legs. Last season, they did even better in the league in terms of points gathered. Now they might just lost everyone. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:24pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
The way some have even argued it would be as if Silva has dozens of goals and assists already. He has just one goal and one assists. Hazard has two goals and one assist. So I gon't get what they mean by Silva is more efficient. I just discovered too that they have played alomost same number of minutes. Both have been substituted thrice. This again vindicate whoscored rating. ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:29pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Hazard 595 minutes from 7 games. Silva 587 minutes from 7 games. here again whoscored rating that Hazard has been better so far is justified. Hazard games this season. 7 matches and got withdrawn thrice. Silva games this season . 7 matches and got withdrawn thrice. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:36pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
When last season we were being told that Rooney gets dispossed, people were clapping for the writers. We heard 'Rooney just lost the ball now" .lol Now we talk about how Silva is unable to keep the ball, the same guys said the stat shouldn't be discussed that it should be for Matic, Rafael, Ivanovic and Makalele. nitrogen, I salute you oooo. Atenntion, gban! ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MaziOmenuko: 2:42pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:In other words, you'd agree with me that the yardstick of being dispossessed and not dispossessed is lame. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mcfarlin(m): 2:44pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
SailorXY:No mind am jare he forget say na 2014 we dey. Ronaldo sef no dey show with leg-over again. He uses dem to disguise a turbo run or shot or even an assist. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:49pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:so how did mata win chelsea's player of the season when they had all these experienced players in their squad with their respectable degree of sharpness? how did mata win chelsea's player of the season in his debut at chelsea & hazard couldn't match that feat a season later?you are digging your own grave here. Last season, they did even better in the league in terms of points gathered. Now they might just lost everyone.they won nothing! if you are not winning the league, you can have 110 points & it will mean nothing. i would rather have 80 points that win the league than 100 points that finished second. as far as successful seasons are concerned, chelsea were a failure last season. they had good seasons in 11/12 & 12/13 when mata was the best player in chelsea. end of discussion! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:51pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
elampiro:You don't get it Its hard for you to comprehend, you don't use that ideology, its archaic and lame, we are comparing two wingers here and not DMs or defenders, so if Ronaldo was dribbled 5 times in a game, and Musa zero times, it directly means that Musa is better than Ronaldo. For these guys, it should be about key passes, assists etc.You are funny! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:54pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
nitrogen:his statistics are fraudulent. silva keep the ball better than hazard. ask elampawa to post their pass completion statistics in all competitions this season ![]() |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 3:04pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
SailorXY:Nani is a dribbler on a few occasion unplayable. what Young is i don't know. My point is that some players don't fit a certain system why some do. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:09pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
coogar:He is a bit sneaky too, he knows the right thing but he would rather make it (the right thing) look wrong with his deceitful analyses. Hazard that dances around on the pitch like a bush god around an iroko tree, no key passes, few assists, no end product, his presence is sparringly felt on the pitch, wth! And Elampiro is here cooking up statistics to defend the guy? You guys are trying! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 3:13pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Mata and Hazard no be mate abeg. No need arguing, just ask Chelsea fans. We who wear the shoe will tell you where it pinches. Hazard is our Ribery while Mata is our Ozil (passenger) |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 3:15pm On Oct 06, 2014 |
Elampiro, stop this argument please. Hazard is a top top player...yes but David silva no be hin mate for football Abeg. |
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... & Moyes even won something
Its hard for you to comprehend, you don't use that ideology, its archaic and lame, we are comparing two wingers here and not DMs or defenders, so if Ronaldo was dribbled 5 times in a game, and Musa zero times, it directly means that Musa is better than Ronaldo. For these guys, it should be about key passes, assists etc.