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Nihilist:
You sef wan dey argue like mumu.

Based on CL medals, Ribery na mate with Mikel and Mikel Obi.

Bosingwa na en senior sef.

This must take the cake for senseless comparison

Based on CL medals Mikel Obi is greater than Ronaldo Lima, Nistelrooy at par with Ronaldinho Henry

Based on CL medal OShea, Wes Brown Steve Finnan, Djimi Traore are greater than Thiago Silva, Matt Hummels, Arturo Vidal, etc

Dk y u dey find unnecessary trouble today ? Na dat yeye Gotze u dey naim amongst peeps wry better pass hazard ? Thunder go fire u for dat rubbish talk.

diggz:
Dk y u dey find unnecessary trouble today ? Na dat yeye Gotze u dey naim amongst peeps wry better pass hazard ? Thunder go fire u for dat rubbish talk.

Na you dey look for trouble, bros!

raumdeuter:
This must take the cake for senseless comparison

Based on CL medals Mikel Obi is greater than Ronaldo Lima, Nistelrooy at par with Ronaldinho Henry

Based on CL medal OShea, Wes Brown Steve Finnan, Djimi Traore are greater than Thiago Silva, Matt Hummels, Arturo Vidal, etc

Na una start the achievement yarns na?

Na una start the whole Hazard will not win champions league yarns

So take am like that.

If Ribery achieves up to Bosingwa,the he should go and sacrifice an elephant to Amadioha

SailorXY:
ronaldo
messi
bale
james
di maria
robben
ibrahimovic
reus
neymar
suarez
muller
neuer
vidal
kompany
aguero
toure
hummels
ribery
silva
fabregas
goetze
thiago silva
mascherano
etc etc in no particular order!

this is just narrowed down to recent form... their undoubted quality aside
tell me who Hazard can displace on this list

What type of useless list is dis one ? God Abeg ooo......! Putting neuer,kompany, mash,silva and co in the same list as hazard..... Abi is hazard expected to keep and play as a defender too ? Sailor na Orijin or alomo dey do u like dis So?

diggz:
Dk y u dey find unnecessary trouble today ? Na dat yeye Gotze u dey naim amongst peeps wry better pass hazard ? Thunder go fire u for dat rubbish talk.

Someone scored a world cup winning goal. Guess which of them

Nihilist:
Na una start the achievement yarns na?

Na una start the whole Hazard will not win champions league yarns

So take am like that.

If Ribery achieves up to Bosingwa,the he should go and sacrifice an elephant to Amadioha

RIbery has an individual award Hazard would never win in 5 lifetimes

Anytime Hazard is ranked above Messi AND Ronaldo, Lets start the discussion

raumdeuter:
This above is the problem with EPL fans

Where on Gods green earth is Hazard a top 10 player in the world?

UEFA had a list of top players 3 months ago, he didnt even make top 12 MIDFIELDERS in Europe, Yet he is in top 10 in the world?

WHat has he done to make top 10? He dribbled some mediocre Arsenal players?

If thats the consideration then Ciro Immobile who sodomised the entire Arsenal midfield to defence should be Ballon D'Or

http://en.toty.uefa.com/midfielders.html

In the world currently, Hazard wont make top 30. Maybe top 50 sha. No be same Hazard we see for world cup 3 months ago?

we are talking about present form
and am i suppose to be impressed by this list ?
Either it is outdated or the compiler missed something high where is fabregas,vidal,Iniesta,Bastaian,pirlo to name a few.
is that Ozil ? Even Assnal are running out of excuse.
It is funny how Hazard detractors point to a small size tournament like the WC to yab him.
I guess Cr7 is crap too
Ibra also since he was so poor he couldn't even make the tournament.
Musa and Gervinho should just get the ballon d'or.

raumdeuter:
Someone scored a world cup winning goal. Guess which of them

I was waiting for you to bring up this useless gist. So according to u,ur useless goatze is better dan messi,ronaldo,ribery,robben,Muller,klose and co since all of dem did not score the world cup winning goal..... Guy...park well ojare

diggz:
Dk y u dey find unnecessary trouble today ? Na dat yeye Gotze u dey naim amongst peeps wry better pass hazard ? Thunder go fire u for dat rubbish talk.

That is Last season in the Champions league where both players met equal opposition. I wont even use league or world cup

raumdeuter:
RIbery has an individual award Hazard would never win in 5 lifetimes

Anytime Hazard is ranked above Messi AND Ronaldo, Lets start the discussion

What is this award you keep yapping on about?
Is it the Champion's league best player 2012/2013 award?

Plus u even add that froggy ozil to the list of peeps wey dey better dan hazard.... Thunder must fire u DK

SIRcumalot:
we are talking about present form
and am i suppose to be impressed by this list ?
Either it is outdated or the compiler missed something high where is fabregas,vidal,Iniesta,Bastaian,pirlo to name a few.
is that Ozil ? Even Assnal are running out of excuse.
It is funny how Hazard detractors point to a small size tournament like the WC to yab him.
I guess Cr7 is crap too
Ibra also since he was so poor he couldn't even make the tournament.
Musa and Gervinho should just get the ballon d'or.

SO what has Hazard done since then? Went to the world cup flopped, Done nothing in his club since then dribbles some Arsenal morrrons suddenly he is top 10 in the world?

CR7 before and after the world cup has been performing top notch, Same with Fabregas Iniesta, Bastian Pirlo etc.

WHat has Hazard done pre world cup, AT world cup or post world cup to deserve top 30 in the world

raumdeuter:
That is Last season in the Champions league where both players met equal opposition. I wont even use league or world cup

Which season ? Dk abeg mk u stop am....hup u know say all una overhyped German breads na flop for epl abi ?

raumdeuter:
That is Last season in the Champions league where both players met equal opposition. I wont even use league or world cup

Dayo you dey argue like mumu again.

Compare the quality of players making the runs at Bayern to what was obtainable at Chelsea and tell me why Goetze won't have more chances created/assists

Nihilist:
What is this award you keep yapping on about?
Is it the Champion's league best player 2012/2013 award?

UEFA best player in Europe award
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Best_Player_in_Europe_Award
In the same competition Hazard played

U know wat,Lets do a straight swoop of both players and lets see how goatze will fair under this same Chelsea structure.

Nihilist:
Dayo you dey argue like mumu again.

Compare the quality of players making the runs at Bayern to what was obtainable at Chelsea and tell me why Goetze won't have more chances created/assists

WIth the quality of players making the runs Chelsea still made the semi just like Bayern. Yet Gotze bossed Hazard in every stat that counts for an attacking midfielder
Lets even forget or discount that Hazard played over 150mins more than Gotze in that same competiton
Come up with the next excuse.

diggz:
U know wat,Lets do a straight swoop of both players and lets see how goatze will fair under this same Chelsea structure.

DO you want me to murder Hazard?

Ok this is It.

Ok in 2012/2013 season ONLY when Gotze was still in DORTMUND, He played 11 CL games has 2 goals and 8 assists in the Champions league

In Hazards entire career combined Lille and Chelsea he has played he has played 23 CL games he has 2 goals and 6 assists

Even though Hazard is 18months older than Gotze, Gotze achieved more in one CL season than in Hazards entire CL career till date

CASE CLOSED

raumdeuter:
WIth the quality of players making the runs Chelsea still made the semi just like Bayern. Yet Gotze bossed Hazard in every stat that counts for an attacking midfielder
Lets even forget or discount that Hazard played over 150mins more than Gotze in that same competiton
Come up with the next excuse.

Walahi Talahi you dey argue rubbish.

Each one our CL games last season was a battle of attrition. Midfield was weak, Attack was poor.

We couldn't attack with Verve for fear of getting hit on the counter eg the game against Basel.

You want to Compare the Bayern that were arguably the most complete team on the planet?

I suspect God wants to punish you this evening Dayo. The thunder that will fire you is doing press up.

diggz:
What type of useless list is dis one ? God Abeg ooo......! Putting neuer,kompany, mash,silva and co in the same list as hazard..... Abi is hazard expected to keep and play as a defender too ? Sailor na Orijin or alomo dey do u like dis So?

the checklist wasn't based on player position, of course I know Hazard won't compete with Mascherano or Toure for a midfield slot

raumdeuter:
DO you want me to murder Hazard?

Ok this is It.

Ok in 2012/2013 season ONLY when Gotze was still in DORTMUND, He played 11 CL games has 2 goals and 8 assists in the Champions league

In Hazards entire career combined Lille and Chelsea he has played he has played 23 CL games he has 2 goals and 6 assists

Even though Hazard is 18months older than Gotze, Gotze achieved more in one CL season than in Hazards entire CL career till date

CASE CLOSED

what!! Hazard that is almost at messi and cr7's level?? A fuccin' travesty!

raumdeuter:
SO what has Hazard done since then? Went to the world cup flopped, Done nothing in his club since then dribbles some Arsenal morrrons suddenly he is top 10 in the world?

CR7 before and after the world cup has been performing top notch, Same with Fabregas Iniesta, Bastian Pirlo etc.

WHat has Hazard done pre world cup, AT world cup or post world cup to deserve top 30 in the world

Has Hazard not Performed ?
And why is Hazard superior dribbling skilling a disadvantage he creates,assist and scores a decent amount of goals
he isn't your average one trick pony.
You're that Bayern munich supporter so i know you have no respect for the EPL let alone the ligue1 so naming his achievement na wash.
Let just Hope Bayern plays chelsea in the UCL.
then you will get the Hazard lecture.

Nihilist:
Walahi Talahi you dey argue rubbish.

Each one our CL games last season was a battle of attrition. Midfield was weak, Attack was poor.

We couldn't attack with Verve for fear of getting hit on the counter eg the game against Basel.

You want to Compare the Bayern that were arguably the most complete team on the planet?

I suspect God wants to punish you this evening Dayo. The thunder that will fire you is doing press up.

Bayern played Man city, Arsenal, Man Utd and Madrid last season in the CL

Chelsea played Schalke, Basel, PSG Atletico

Let anyone come here and tell us who played the tougher opposition

SIRcumalot:
Has Hazard not Performed ?
And why is Hazard superior dribbling skilling a disadvantage he creates,assist and scores a decent amount of goals
he isn't your average one trick pony.
You're that Bayern munich supporter so i know you have no respect for the EPL let alone the ligue1 so naming his achievement na wash.
Let just Hope Bayern plays chelsea in the UCL.
then you will get the Hazard lecture.

Whats the use of dribbling when a simple pass would do? Its only senseless players like Quaresma, Denilson Hazard and Manga Mohammed who would dribble when a simple pass would do

WHen last did you see Messi, Ronaldo Robben etc doing stupidd stepovers

Using Champions league alone so you wont tell us Bundesliga is weaker

Gotze has outscored, Out-assisted and out-created Hazard

or should we use world cup?

We are not even using league now so you wont tell us one league is more difficult

So come up with the next excuse!!

This dayokanu guy funny sha. After the Allianz arena massacre by Madrid last season, No be you dey talk am for Chelsea thread say make dem give you hazard and that scarface can go to calabar rovers for all you care? How I wish the nl tsunami didn't happen.

coogar:
you have not advanced your point one jot....you keep dancing round in circles. i guess EPL players were also right when they chose a geriatric giggs over world best player(ronaldo) in 2009.



i said ashley young(if fit) is as productive, if not better than di maria. that claim is still very valid. i don't want to start digging young's résumé again.

- i have done that more than 20 times on this thread, i even challenged you to find any winger better than young in the whole of europe(minus ronaldo/messi) and you ran away with the tail between your legs.

unfortunately for young, he is unfit again this season to re-produce the form that made SAF pay the top dollar for him in 2012. as far as productivity is concerned, only few wingers can match ashley young in europe. his performance in 2007 got jose mourinho sacked.



you don't understand stats!
i dunno why van persie is being brought up in a debate that involved silva & hazard but i can defend the dutchman.

van persie is a centre forward. he's constantly marked by 2 centre-halves & he operates in high pressure zones on the pitch. there's hardly any striker with a good turnover stats....

hazard isn't a striker. he's further away from the opponent's box than a centre forward, why then is he losing the ball twice as much as silva who play the same role for city? it then means the more hazard dribbles, the more likely he loses the ball.

your fraudulent stats is only showing attempted dribbles - it didn't say how many of those dribbles were successful in the end. the turnover simply shows eden hazard is a liability & this is why silva has outpassed him in the last 2 seasons.

Just wait.

Dadehmola:
This dayokanu guy funny sha. After the Allianz arena massacre by Madrid last season, No be you dey talk am for Chelsea thread say make dem give you hazard and that scarface can go to calabar rovers for all you care? How I wish the nl tsunami didn't happen.

Are you minding him?

I remember when Jose and Eden had that falling out, Dayo said those exact words....that Hazard should come and get rid of the aging Ribery.

Dayo is just a hater

Dadehmola:
This dayokanu guy funny sha. After the Allianz arena massacre by Madrid last season, No be you dey talk am for Chelsea thread say make dem give you hazard and that scarface can go to calabar rovers for all you care? How I wish the nl tsunami didn't happen.

Based on potential, Hazard is a decent replacement for Ribery who is already over 30 and would start declining

Just like for example One can wish Raheem STerling as a future Robben replacement, Does that mean Sterling is better than Robben?

Nihilist:
Are you minding him?

I remember when Jose and Eden had that falling out, Dayo said those exact words....that Hazard should come and get rid of the aging Ribery.

Dayo is just a hater

Hater is all you can come up with? AFter slapping you in the face with hard facts.

The best you can come up with is Hater? You dey fall my hand.

Hazard in the right environment/coach can be developed to be a good player, but currently he pales in comparison with other top talents. A coach who would mould him that senseless stepovers arent needed in football, Like ROnaldo learnt but QUaresma failed to

You havent told us what Hazard needs to sacrifice to be rated above Messi and Ronaldo in any comparison

raumdeuter:
Based on potential, Hazard is a decent replacement for Ribery who is already over 30 and would start declining

Just like for example One can wish Raheem STerling as a future Robben replacement, Does that mean Sterling is better than Robben?

I don't think you understand English.



If you believe that Hazard is a good enough replacement for Ribery right now, then why are you arguing that Hazard cannot surpass Ribery's achievement?

Abi which Kain agbo Jedi you drink this night?