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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:51pm On Oct 06, 2014
SIRcumalot:
I agree.
Even going by last Season Hazard
Was better than Gotze.
Explain how. Note. This is a trick question. Explain how Hazard was better than Gotze last season

This is to evaluate how you are able to analyze the stats you see and come up with conclusions

SO we know those who see stats and how they analyze it
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:52pm On Oct 06, 2014
Nani's Omission Is Baffling & Farcical
In this most unpredictable of seasons, perhaps it is apt that we have an exclusion from the PFA Player of the Year shortlist that not many would even have dreamt of predicting. Most of the big names are in there – Carlos Tevez, Rafael van der Vaart, Samir Nasri, Nemanja Vidic, Gareth Bale, Charlie Adam and Scott Parker – but not the one player who has probably caught the eye more often than anyone this season: Nani.

The Portuguese has acquired a reputation as a preening, showboating moaner with a predilection for throwing himself theatrically to ground at the slightest of contact. He is by no means popular, but what is incontestable this season is just how effective he really can be.
He has cut out many of the needless tricks and flicks which used to rile Manchester United team-mates and supporters in equal measure, and his overall impact has increased substantially. Finally Old Trafford is seeing Nani realise the potential that Sir Alex Ferguson spent around £18m to acquire.


Following United's 2-1 victory over Manchester City in February, Ferguson spoke glowingly of a winger he has not always enjoyed a close relationship with, saying: "I don't need to trumpet his improvement. He has been consistent all season. He is a match-winner who creates goals and he scores them. He had seven strikes against City and that is a high ratio for a winger, particularly in a big game. He is showing maturity now. Every time he gets near the box you think something is going to happen. When you get that, you have a great player."


Well, in the wake of his exclusion from the Player of the Year shortlist, perhaps Ferguson did need to trumpet Nani's contribution. In reality, his statistics should have done the talking for him: 29 league appearances, nine goals, 16 assists.


It has been a dazzling season when looked at merely in those simple terms, but even they do not tell the full story of Nani's campaign. In a United attack shorn of the pace of Antonio Valencia and without an in-form Wayne Rooney, it has been Nani who has almost single-handedly carried the team's main attacking thrust. His goal threat, his urgency and his dexterity have constantly served to allow the league leaders to break at pace on the counter-attack, and it has been Nani who has most been able to punish tired legs late on in games when United appear most dangerous.

Dimitar Berbatov may have more goals,
Wayne Rooney may have more fans, but if United win the Premier League this season, then Nani will deserve more plaudits. It is just a shame that somehow he did not garner enough of a popular vote among his fellow players to even make a six-man shortlist for Player of the Year. It is baffling and utterly farcical, but the supporters at Old Trafford will know just how important a contribution the Portuguese has made for his team this term.
few honest british journalists could see the fraud from a mile away then but this particular journalist(from daily telegraph) isn't popular to make himself heard loud enough.

so mr elampawa, PFA vote is sometimes about popularity contest.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:55pm On Oct 06, 2014
Angel di Maria has commented on the importance of Radamel Falcao’s first goal for the club,
Di Maria who was the Man of the Match against Everton, said about his new teammate: “Yes, it’s great for him. He’s been looking for that first goal for a while now and it’s very, very important for him now.
“I think not only him but ourselves are on the right road now and the main thing is we’re fighting for victories and fighting for points. We’ve got the three points for the day and hopefully we can now move further up the table.”
[Source: Daily Mail]
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Wayne Rooney
Yesterday
Great win today and good to see Falcao get his first goal. David De Gea was in great form making some big saves!
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Luke Shaw has allayed fears the injury he picked up in Manchester United's 2-1 win over Everton will leave him on the sidelines.

The 19-year-old limped off after 70 minutes in Louis van Gaal's side's Old Trafford win on Sunday.

But Shaw played down fears over the incident and revealed his is looking forward to joining up with England under-21s for the international break.

"It's not a bad injury, it's a dead leg on my knee, II felt it in the first 20 minutes when I got caught but it carried on during the game so I thought it was probably best to come off before it gets any worse.

"I spoke with the doctor and obviously the manager as well and both feel it's best that I do go with the u21s as it's not an injury that is going to keep me out.

"Hopefully, I should be training in the next couple of days and can get another two games of 90 minutes each.

"As I said, I've been talking to the manager and we've spoken about it and think it's a great idea for me to go to help out with the u21s and get some game-time as well."

[Source: Daily Mail]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:01pm On Oct 06, 2014
coogar:
Nani's Omission Is Baffling & Farcical


few honest british journalists could see the fraud from a mile away then but this particular journalist(from daily telegraph) isn't popular to make himself heard loud enough.

so mr elampawa, PFA vote is sometimes about popularity contest.
Mr Coolie-guy, Hazard has defated Silva twice. That cannot be a mistake.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:02pm On Oct 06, 2014
elampiro:
You have resorted to theory now. lol grin

One more killer to end the argument: There is nothing to check about minutes played. Both guys have the same number of minutes this season. And Hazard murders Silva, even though Silva sometimes play as a number 10.
the fake allegations have started....
when have you ever seen silva as a number 10? he's an inverted winger with the license to roam anywhere he pleases.

yaya toure plays more in the hole than silva - city always start with aguero/dzeko or dzeko/jovetic. when it's time to lock up, they take a striker off, push yaya toure in the hole to cause mayhem to the opposition & add one gorilla to partner fernandinho.

elampawa, you don't have to lie to sway arguments. hazard is also given the license to roam at chelsea. he interchanges with the floating 3 behind costa or torres but he has less creative bone than colonel silva.


elampiro:
Mr Coolie-guy, Hazard has defated Silva twice. That cannot be a mistake.
i have provided statistical comparison of both players in the last 3 seasons & silva shat diarrhoea(watery faeces) on hazard. hazard can't even step to mata......na silva ę wan compare himself to?

khaki ain't leather - let hazard fight it out with matt jarvis or stewart downing. silva is miles ahead.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:03pm On Oct 06, 2014
Van Gaal said: ‘.......That is why we have to train, but now all my players are gone. The rest are injured so we cannot train. Now I have to wait.

"Di Maria and Rojo are coming back from Hong Kong. They are playing two friendly games. They are coming back with jetlag so I cannot train at once and then I have to wait.

"Then I have only two or three days before the game with West Bromwich Albion. That is my problem I know and we live in this football world. I was also a national coach but it is not so easy as everybody thinks."

[Source: Daily Mail]

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Nemanja Vidic believes that Manchester United are missing the coaching of Carlos Queiroz to help keep their defence well-drilled.

Nemanja Vidic believes that Manchester United are missing the coaching of Carlos Queiroz to help keep their defence well-drilled.

“We worked a lot in training on this defensive shape with Carlos Queiroz. Patrice was the one who was going forward on that left side, almost as a winger.

“Then you had Rio and I in the middle with Wes on the right. He was a natural defender who could get forward as well but with Patrice attacking it gave us the right balance for Wes to stay more in position to stop counter attacks.

“We had a really great balance and we had Edwin van der Sar behind us. He had great experience and was talking to us all the time. He could pass the ball, too.

“He was a great passer, like an outfield player. It was like having a midfielder and goalkeeper behind you. He could pick out passes and you always felt confident giving him the ball.

“But working with Carlos at that time was a big influence on us and that team. Plus, you had to look at the manager too. Sir Alex Ferguson picked the right players in the right positions.

“He had brilliant players in that squad and he got the positions right and that set up the balance of the team. But there were a lot of things which were decisive in that season which all contributed to us doing well.

“The key to that season was the consistency over a number of games throughout the whole season. It was the players, the coaches, the manager.

“The balance of the defence and how we played as a unit over the entire season which brought it all together.”

[Source: Sport Review
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 9:05pm On Oct 06, 2014
Dk,Gustavo and ko abeg we still get unfinished bizness for arsenal thread.....mk una show for the party shaperly plsssssss
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 9:14pm On Oct 06, 2014
afrodoc2:
cheesy
See free for all. This reminds me of Royal Rumble, anybody fit troway anybody.......i no know which one to follow sef. Hazard vs Silva or Hazard vs Ribery or Hazard vs Gotze or .................. shocked Di Maria vs Young(yeye dey smell).
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin Na so we see am o grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola:
raumdeuter post: Just remain in your ignorance. No use trying to force you out of your comfort zone.
Nobody is here to challenge your position as that glorified moronic douchbag who is always quick to exhibit astute stûpidity at the slightest opportunity. The crown has been yours and it will always be. Ade a pe Lori oo!!

raumdeuter post: I saw that Hazard has potential, plays for a coach who wouldnt maximize his attacking POTENTIAL

Saw that we had a player who is starting to decline, Logic and common sense would want Hazard to come right now and grow up in the correct system where his POTENTIAL can be used instead of waiting till he is 25 when he might already be a waste due to bad coaching

But in your own upside-down thinking that means Hazard is already better than Ribery?
Another proposition typically bereft of logic and common sense by the daft midget.

You claimed ribery was shyte and that you needed hazard as his immediate replacement because you couldn't put up with such performances anymore since hazard is kinda like the immediate fix to the urgent problem. Why would any sane person pick a "shittier" hazard to continue stinking up the joint pending the time "he reaches his potential"?

It's obvious your brain-cells are filled with thick mucous.

raumdeuter post: Luke Shaw was bought to replace Evra. I would bet that based on CURRENT play Evra is still better than Shaw, If there is a Man Utd vs Bayern game today, Most managers would use Evra over Shaw.
That's probably because shaw doesn't have UCL experience, especially in such a game of that magnitude. That aside, shaw is better than evra as we speak and will surely start ahead of him in the domestic league.

raumdeuter post: But sensible management dictates that you buy the long term replacement and bed him early enough for long term gains.
I guess all this is beyond your intelligence quotient
Like I said earlier, stop trying so hard to sound knowledgable and intelligent - no matter how hard you try, those two words will never be used in the same sentence with your name. cheesy

Now run along!! wink
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:15pm On Oct 06, 2014
Very happy with my first goal and win in Manchester United

Muy feliz con el primer gol y victoria en Manchester United.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by HARDDON: 9:21pm On Oct 06, 2014
Hello United Fam

The joy I feel to go thru this international break on the back of that win against Everton , can only be imagined .

How would I have survived with my team sh1ting down EPL table if we had lost that match?
Now we top 4, two weeks to spare, bois wud be retuning from injuries , youth revelations and the team gelling !

Let this two weeks come and pass on! We gas to return
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:21pm On Oct 06, 2014
coogar:
the fake allegations have started....
when have you ever seen silva as a number 10? he's an inverted winger with the license to roam anywhere he pleases.

yaya toure plays more in the hole than silva - city always start with aguero/dzeko or dzeko/jovetic. when it's time to lock up, they take a striker off, push yaya toure in the hole to cause mayhem to the opposition & add one gorilla to partner fernandinho.

elampawa, you don't have to lie to sway arguments. hazard is also given the license to roam at chelsea. he interchanges with the floating 3 behind costa or torres but he has less creative bone than colonel silva.




i have provided statistical comparison of both players in the last 3 seasons & silva shat diarrhoea(watery faeces) on hazard. hazard can't even step to mata......na silva ę wan compare himself to?

khaki ain't leather - let hazard fight it out with matt jarvis or stewart downing. silva is miles ahead.
I nullfied all your useless stats already.

Most importantly, official records show Hazard has been better since he came. Professionals have spoken. whoscored has spoken.


This is why Hazard is at least 50 million in the market.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:43pm On Oct 06, 2014
FALCAO HAPPY WITH FIRST MAN UTD GOAL: AND MY FAMILY WANTS TO STAY FOR MANY YEARS!

Radamel Falcao is delighted to be off the mark for Manchester United.

The on-loan AS Monaco striker struck the winner against Everton yesterday.

"All strikers need goals, and for me there was a little bit of relief to score my first goal," he told MUTV. "I hope to score many in the future. It was amazing that my first goal was at Old Trafford, I enjoyed it with all the fans and I want to say thank you to God, my team mates, all the staff and the coaches."

Having clinched three points with his quick thinking positioning inside the box, Falcao is looking to the future beyond his current loan from Monaco.

"Me and my family are happy here, and we would like to stay for many years at Manchester United."

"I believe in this project," he said at the time. "I think Manchester United is the best club for my style of play and I am sure about my decision. This project in the future will be great for us."

ESPN, Tribal sports.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:56pm On Oct 06, 2014
Manchester United have suffered yet another injury blow with teenager Paddy McNair ruled-out for three weeks with a hamstring strain.
McNair will now miss out on the opportunity make his International debut for Northern Ireland in their forthcoming Euro 2016 qualifiers with the Faroe Islands and Greece.
Louis van Gaal has revealed Chris Smalling and Phil Jones are back in training on the road to recovery but the latest setback means his injury nightmare continues.
McNair's injury will jeopardise his chances of featuring in United's starting-eleven in the upcoming clash with Chelsea.
[Source: Express, Daily Star]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 10:00pm On Oct 06, 2014
Dadehmola:
Nobody is here to challenge your position as that glorified moronic douchbag who is always quick to exhibit astute stûpidity at the slightest opportunity. The crown has been yours and it will always be. Ade a pe Lori oo!!

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:01pm On Oct 06, 2014
Good night my people.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 10:23pm On Oct 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
Explain how. Note. This is a trick question. Explain how Hazard was better than Gotze last season

This is to evaluate how you are able to analyze the stats you see and come up with conclusions

SO we know those who see stats and how they analyze it
What it is their to analyse
it obvious to everybody that Hazard was Chelsea best player last season supported by Chelsea's dogged defence
hampered by a useless attack and A mediocre Oscar who was supposed to share the creative burden.
he led the league in chance created chipped in 14 goals and 7 assist.
why Gotze was struggling coming,from the bench into a bayern teams rich in quality players.
it is even understandable why Hazard stats was lowered in the UCL as the quality of the opposing team increases and the tournament tougher.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by diggz: 10:32pm On Oct 06, 2014
SIRcumalot:
What it is their to analyse
it obvious to everybody that Hazard was Chelsea best player last season supported by Chelsea's dogged defence
hampered by a useless attack and A mediocre Oscar who was supposed to share the creative burden.
he led the league in chance created chipped in 14 goals and 7 assist.
why Gotze was struggling coming,from the bench into a bayern teams rich in quality players.
it is even understandable why Hazard stats was lowered in the UCL as the quality of the opposing team increases and the tournament tougher.
Abeg leave DK alone. I don give up for the mata since.....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 10:36pm On Oct 06, 2014
You guys are just fvcking unbelievable!

shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:47pm On Oct 06, 2014
elampiro:
I nullfied all your useless stats already.

Most importantly, official records show Hazard has been better since he came. Professionals have spoken. whoscored has spoken.

This is why Hazard is at least 50 million in the market.
my stats nullified whoscored - whoscored tabulate stats per game. even if hazard spends 3 mins more per game than hazard, he would appear to be better because in those 3 mins difference, his stats would be padded up. whoscored does not take players who take awoof penalties into cognisance - a goal is a goal as far as they are concerned.

their stats is dodgy - this is why diame has been better than your £300k/week obese striker this season. why not swap diame with rooney then since whoscored has fooled you into believing their dodgy collated stats.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:41pm On Oct 06, 2014
Rafael; Brazil's loss, Manchester United's gain
Rafael gave a dogged performance at right full-back, and while he didn't cover himself in glory for the away side's goal, his efforts down the flank prevented Everton's advances for the most-part of the match.

He made several vital interceptions and clearances, and won four tackles, as he recovered possession for his side on 14 occasions. He also prevented a potential late Everton equaliser, blocking a strike in the 87th minute.

He was also superb going forward, and played an integral role in his side's opener, with his cross finding Juan Mata who played the final pass to Angel di Maria. His attacking runs put the Merseysiders on the back foot throughout, as he completed one of three attempted dribbles and drew three fouls, while he played six crosses in total.

Proving comfortable in possession he accumulated 82 touches
during 90 minutes - second to only Angel Di Maria - while he fashioned 43 passes, with a 79% accuracy rate.

With Rafael looking close to getting back to his best for United, he will certainly have given Louis van Gaal plenty to mull over.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iheanyi40(m): 1:19am On Oct 07, 2014
SailorXY:
Rafael; Brazil's loss, Manchester United's gain
I still think we're yet to c d best of Rafael; dat guy is phucking gOOd
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 7:52am On Oct 07, 2014
iheanyi40:
I still think we're yet to c d best of Rafael; dat guy is phucking gOOd
every1 knows this, injuries keep holding him back from establishing himself as the undisputed best RB in the league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:09am On Oct 07, 2014
coogar:
my stats nullified whoscored - whoscored tabulate stats per game. even if hazard spends 3 mins more per game than hazard, he would appear to be better because in those 3 mins difference, his stats would be padded up. whoscored does not take players who take awoof penalties into cognisance - a goal is a goal as far as they are concerned.

their stats is dodgy - this is why diame has been better than your £300k/week obese striker this season. why not swap diame with rooney then since whoscored has fooled you into believing their dodgy collated stats.
You are so confused now that you bring in isolated cases. cheesy

Don't you know what it means for Hazard to defeat Silva 2/2 in EPL players peer rating? 2/3 in whoscored? I am not even talking of the fact that Silva operated far more in the number 10 role. When City visited Old Trafford last season, Silva was in the hole. He plays in the hole far more that Hazard, and yet his goals and assists stats are like that of an out and out winger. cheesy

Your wayo stat you produced yesterday you deleted goals from it and every other stats that favoured Hazard. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:17am On Oct 07, 2014
When DDG saved that penalty, Rafael was the first to react. If he didn't react so quickly, an Everton player was on hand to pounce on the ball.

As per Brazil call up. I think Rafael never impressed for Brazil even when he was very good in the past. I always wanted him to do well in their games, but he played like he needed to play like a junior player. He didnt give a deserved fight to compete with the senior guys.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:19am On Oct 07, 2014
elampiro:
When DDG saved that penalty, Rafael was the first to react. If he didn't react so quickly, an Everton player was on hand to pounce on the ball.

As per Brazil call up. I think Rafael never impressed for Brazil even when he was very good in the past. I always wanted him to do well in their games, but he played like he needed to play like a junior player. He didnt give a deserved fight to compete with the senior guys.
Did yhu write this, Elamps??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:22am On Oct 07, 2014
Some of Manchester United’s new signings
have made a fantastic start to the season and
have adjusted to life in the Premier League
seamlessly.
United are now 4th in the table and the 12
goals/assists that new signings Angel di Maria,
Ander Herrera and Radamel Falcao have
provided have been key in this.
Di Maria is 2nd in the league for the number
of key passes, averaging 3.2 per game and 3rd
for the number of assists (3). He’s also 3rd in
the league for number of crosses per game,
averaging 2, and 8th in the league for the
number of dribbles he’s completed, averaging
at 2.4 as well as being the 10th highest scorer.
Marcos Rojo is 9th in the league for the
average number of passes completed per
game, with 68.5, and Daley Blind is just
behind him in 10th with 67.8.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:27am On Oct 07, 2014
JayKayMaybachz:
Did yhu write this, Elamps??
Yes, I saw a few friendly matches he played. I was hoping he did well but he didn't play like the Rafael of Manchester United. Let's hope he takes ownership now that Brazil is rebuilding.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:31am On Oct 07, 2014
STATS: Glazers ensure lower spending than Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, City and Tottenham

* Manchester United spent 54.32% of their
income on transfers and wages, lower than
any rival.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:33am On Oct 07, 2014
⇧⇧
That’s the reason Utd are in such a
strong position now FFP has kicked in
and City are bleeped and Rent Boys
have to sell before they can buy just
good management.Now there is no
team that have the same buying
power than Utd because both Madrid
and Barca have a bigger debt load
All the doom mongers predicted
bankruptcy and it’s the complete
opposite
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:34am On Oct 07, 2014
elampiro:
Yes, I saw a few friendly matches he played. I was hoping he did well but he didn't play like the Rafael of Manchester United. Let's hope he takes ownership now that Brazil is rebuilding.
If they like.... I careless, All want him do is beast our defense for us...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola:
elampiro:
Yes, I saw a few friendly matches he played. I was hoping he did well but he didn't play like the Rafael of Manchester United. Let's hope he takes ownership now that Brazil is rebuilding.
I pray he continues to get snubbed by the selecào.

The last thing I want to hear is " Rafael ruled out for _ weeks after picking up a _ injury in a friendly match for Brazil"
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