AugustineAgain:
Even our drivers are deadly....don't ya mezz around with dem !

Point being what? If he is in a combat unit or in a combat area it is only normal for him to be armed. Not to mention the driver of a APC and IFV are typically Infantry.

ChukwuCantDie:
Shut up Patrick, the Zimbabweans now own THEIR OWN LAND, South Africans DO NOT.

Zimbabweans now also live in destitute poverty - 72% of their population

Zimbabweans now also have 80% unemployment - 94% in 2008

Zimbabweans now flee by their millions in search of work and food in South Africa (2muchIrony4me)

Zimbabweans enjoyed hyper inflation of 200 000 000%

Zimbabweans now no longer have their own currency

Zimbabwe is now rife with Cholera and other diseases

Zimbabwe is now an international Pariah and even the Chinese (their only allys) try to keep a distance (superficially)

Yeah, worked out great didnt it!! We should all totally do it!! We can all starve and die of disease on our tiny patches of land!!

AugustineAgain:


No need, Nigeria has ALL infantry weapon class that SANDF has, from Rifle to AGL.

Well for us, evry bullet counts, one enemy one bullet, SANDF wastes their own

See how we nailed this Boko driver through his windsheild.....one naija bullet works like 10 saffer bullets
.

In what numbers?

In SA the MGL is a squad weapon and ever except the LMG gunner can use a rifle grenade.

Sure because your solders are better shots than the Americans. Or you talking Bull and don't under stand, cover and movement, surprising fire, or that it is very hard to hit a moving target. Do you know that if your patrol comes under attack from a certain direction you open fire at the enemy, where the enemy is hiding and where he could be hiding. With you average solders load out he can not do proper fire and movement, He can not pin the enemy down so they can get flanked or hit with heavy weapons. Face it your solders are under equipped.

ChukwuCantDie:
Shut up Patrick, the Zimbabweans now own THEIR OWN LAND, South Africans DO NOT.

r it is owned by a few very rich men well the rest starve.

Henry120:


You might not care about the report, but the 85% of your black countrymen living in poverty actually do care.

It is them, i'm most concerned about.

Which 85%? Earnings per capita in South Africa is 4 times more of Nigeria... if 85% of our black population is poor then Nigerians will be 4 times poorer.

EroZA:
Surely you did not expect this friction,I can be on your level if you compell me Oga...

I have seen more stubborn scoundrels in real life and on this thread! Guess what? They fell away. You are not up to scratch!

MikeZA:
Claims again!!!!!!

Ohh you're still claiming those?

You guys were claiming Chinooks and 40 helicopters LOOOOOOOOOL,we all know what happened next.

African armies which get American training are always quick to abuse human rights. This is the case with Nigeria.

Na we don't claim.

We wanted to get AH-1w's from israel, the americans blocked it, we instead went for 12 additional up-graded MI-35 helicopters from belarus. No sweat.

And dummy, the CH-46 are for the Navy, not the Airforce.

You should be more concerned about purchasing aviation fuel for your Airforce.

"Weapons acquired during the 1999 arms deal are not being used and are becoming derelict, the Seriti Commission of Inquiry heard on Tuesday [October 7].

[b] “With regards to the 30 Augusta helicopters purchased from Italy, I am informed that many of them are in storage and unused or rotting at Ysterplaat Air Force Base in Cape Town,”

The actual story of electricity for all in South Africa. In deed all South Africans enjoy electricity and they know how to confirm the great situation.

See link below:

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http://drum.co.za/news/why-i-showed-my-bum-to-the-police/

Patchesagain:


So, are you really just going to say the same thing over and over even though it has been completely disproven?

What is wrong with you? Seriously dude, this is embarrassing.

The same issues, that have been confirmed by your defence minister

Mapisa-Nqakula said the Defence Review -- now before Parliament -- stated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.

If You expect me to take your words over your defence minister, your're obviously hallucinating.



SANDF faces funding crisis


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

Johannesburg daily The Times reported defence secretary Sam Gulube as saying a R1.1 billion budget shortfall could compel the SANDF into large-scale retrenchments and compulsory early retirement in order to survive and pay salaries.

The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions.

Gulube was speaking after briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee.



Before you comment further,

"South Africa's once-effective air force has new aircraft but cannot afford the fuel and maintenance needed to keep them in the air".

Please, go and by aviation fuel, this is really embarrassing for your airforce.

NaijaPikinGidi:
The actual story of electricity for all in South Africa. In deed all South Africans enjoy electricity and they know how to confirm the great situation.

See link below:

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http://drum.co.za/news/why-i-showed-my-bum-to-the-police/

LMAO

Msauza:


What do you mean rich? I have already concluded that your level of education is not above tertiary learning. Some concepts of economy are way too complicated for some pea-sized brain like yours to comprehend. Nigeria is not richer than SA at all. It only has a bigger consumer market.

My friend, the use of generators and absence of electricity is the epitomy of failure. Economy as big as Nigeria's should have a stable power supply and refrain from its backwardness.

If i were to pour your mumu into the river nile, it will change the colour of water all over Egypt and environs . Electricity up to this year was the exclusive area of the federal goverment so it was relatively inadequate. Like every federal establishments even in the US. So my point is if the government fails to provide electricity to a large part of the citizens, these citizens have the means and resources to buy and run generators as an alternative source of power. And it is more expensive for them if they were to pay for government electricity. They are not using candles or bush lamps. Nope. They own and run generators for daily needs. So even if government fails Our citizens are Rich to run the economy with alternative power to produce africa's biggest economy. We have the highest concentration of millionaires in africa not just the richest man. I "might" be no economic expert but you are sure one hell of a logic destitute and your IQ is too weak to bear the weight of kindergarten comprehension.

Patchesagain:


Poverty Rate in Nigeria is 46%
http://data.worldbank.org/country/nigeria

Poverty rate in South Africa is 20% (see citation i posted earlyer)

Do some math - if blacks make up over 80% of our population, and you say 85% of them live in poverty... how do we have a poverty rate of 20%?

85% of blacks live in poverty

[citation needed]

White households make 10times the amount of black households

- race is irrelevant

- the problem of income inequality in nigeria is worse
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.GINI

7% of the population run 90% of the economy.

- race is irrelevant

- the problem of unequal distribution of wealth is worse in Nigeria

7% of the minority white control 100% of the defence industry.

[citation needed]


As usual: No argument = time to talk about race

Like I said, Nigerians are inherently racist

Poverty rate in Nigeria

It said in its second edition of the Nigeria Economic Report (NER) which was launched in Abuja that going by the recent rebasing of the economy as well as analysis from the new General Household Surveys (GHS) conducted by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) with the support of the Bank, new poverty estimates in 2010/2011 and 2012/2013 should be within the range of 35.2 per cent and 33.1 per cent respectively.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/...-33-1-/184259/

"Interest in Nigeria by international organisations and multinationals has continued to grow despite rising insurgency in the country, U.S-based economic advisory firm, Frontiers Strategy Group"

"The report, issued by the Wall Street Journal, said that out of 11 African countries in a survey conducted by the firm, Nigeria ranked first as the most preferred economy for investment by the multinationals, which included European and American firms."

http://businessdayonline.com/2014/06/nigeria-is-top-investment-destination-in-africa


Black middle class in South-Africa is only 15%, yet the morons make up 90% of the entire population.

You are very racist patrick, you're comfortable with the fact only a minority 7% of the population own 80% of the land, 90% of the economy and 100% of the defence industry. A country were white households make 10 times more than blacks. The most un-equal society on planet earth.

You are inherently racist patrick.

Patchesagain:


According to the GINI index, Nigeria has a smaller part of its population owning a bigger part of the economy when in comparison to South Africa
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.POV.GINI

So, your own argument has killed you

Proves my point.

South-Africa with a GINI index of 65.1, is the world's most un-equal society.

Patchesagain:


None of them reported on the story after the initial reports they made on the battle itself.

We have detailed accounts from world renowned Janes correspondents that tell a different story

As well as accounts from Seleka that corroborate the story

Keep quiet, liar. They all reported on it, and the all say the same thing


"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-soldiers-in-CAR-retreat-to-barracks-want-out-20130324


You ran away.

Yet, you were telling bare faced lies about SAcowardlyNDF bringing in supplies. Peeps who only had one thing on their minds (scampering).

BankuTilapia2:


Nigeria is the biggest slum on earth and full of over 100 million retardeddd animals. The worse thing created after animals are nigerians. Nigeria is the most filthiest on earth and their women smells because they bleach a lot. A used menstrual pad is more valuable than a nigerian.

Ghana, please you do not belong to this fight. This is a forum that has dragged on for years and spun over a thousand pages. If you calm down and calculate the internet data worth of this thread you will see that it is worth more than ghana's entire GDP of a wretched 30 billion dollars.
Now go see if Britain has sent you your yearly donations, you malnutritious swamp rat.

Henry120:


Keep quiet, liar. They all reported on it, and the all say the same thing


"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-soldiers-in-CAR-retreat-to-barracks-want-out-20130324


You ran away.

Yet, you were telling bare faced lies about SAcowardlyNDF bringing in supplies. Peeps who only had one thing on their minds (scampering).

i repeat, i have never seen such bare faced,fact-twisting, unscrupulous liers like southafricans. I will give it to them. They are a genius at mixing lies with facts . Distortion masters.

Henry120:


Na we don't claim.

We wanted to get AH-1w's from israel, the americans blocked it, we instead went for 12 additional up-graded MI-35 helicopters from belarus. No sweat.

And dummy, the CH-46 are for the Navy, not the Airforce.

You should be more concerned about purchasing aviation fuel for your Airforce.

"Weapons acquired during the 1999 arms deal are not being used and are becoming derelict, the Seriti Commission of Inquiry heard on Tuesday [October 7].

[b] “With regards to the 30 Augusta helicopters purchased from Italy, I am informed that many of them are in storage and unused or rotting at Ysterplaat Air Force Base in Cape Town,”

Craford is not in the miltary. He is a so complelty uninformened. There are zero A109s is ysterplaat in any form what so ever. The base operats orxy and lynx helcopters. So his infomastion is so wrong has to be laughbil.

Henry120:


Keep quiet, liar. They all reported on it, and the all say the same thing


"A source with the United Nations in Bangui said the South Africans had asked for assistance from French forces to help them leave the country."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE92M0AU20130324?irpc=932

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SA-soldiers-in-CAR-retreat-to-barracks-want-out-20130324


You ran away.

Yet, you were telling bare faced lies about SAcowardlyNDF bringing in supplies. Peeps who only had one thing on their minds (scampering).

What UN forces where in CAR. None only civlians who where hidding at there compounds or airport. SA did go to the french twice to insure that the airport would remain open to them. There where no UN personal near the battel so how can they be a source?

andrewza:


Craford is not in the miltary. He is a so complelty uninformened. There are zero A109s is ysterplaat in any form what so ever. The base operats orxy and lynx helcopters. So his infomastion is so wrong has to be laughbil.

Don't just come here and say the information is wrong! Provide rock-solid proof that the information is wrong! #Simple

Henry120:


Nigeria has all the Infantry accessories it needs. From MGL's to AGL's, adequate Rounds, whatever the infantry man requires. We are not under-equipped.

Nigerian troops are not retarrds, they pick the enemy and take him out. In a timely well fashioned and coordinated manner.

Photo below.

Yet photos of the averge nigerian solder fighting BH show them basic nigerian infantry squad to be armened with a AK47 and a few Mags. Where we have shown that even SA solders in Sudan on peacekeeping missions have MGLs.

The stark reality of South Africans. Home is where the crime is ...

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http://news-headlines.co.za/is-irresponsible-advertorial-bbc-reporting-hiding-genocide-in-south-africa/

NaijaPikinGidi:


Don't just come here and say the information is wrong! Provide rock-solid proof that the information is wrong! #Simple

Google the base and you will see what units are there, then look at those squdrons aircraft. Then you can use google earth and see there are no A109s there.

andrewza:


Google the base and you will see what units are there, then look at those squdrons aircraft. Then you can use google earth and see there are no A109s there.

Nothing to say or show? Go get some sleep AndrewZA!!

andrewza:



Yet photos of the averge nigerian solder fighting BH show them basic nigerian infantry squad to be armened with a AK47 and a few Mags. Where we have shown that even SA solders in Sudan on peacekeeping missions have MGLs.

What photos of average nigerian soldiers have you seen? Has the DHQ released any photos?

Photo above.

This is the way a proper soldier is to fight. In a very coordinated, fashioned and properly protected manner.

The photo shows Nigerian troops advancing in a group of fours. An infantry man that thinks.


Not Andrew's soldier who waste's rounds like an irresponsible obviously poorly trained soldier

andrewza:


What UN forces where in CAR. None only civlians who where hidding at there compounds or airport. SA did go to the french twice to insure that the airport would remain open to them. There where no UN personal near the battel so how can they be a source?

UN humanitarian agencies =/= forces. Olodo

lezz:
i repeat, i have never seen such bare faced,fact-twisting, unscrupulous liers like southafricans. I will give it to them. They are a genius at mixing lies with facts . Distortion masters.

Welcome to the imaginary world of patches and mikeza.

Henry240:


Welcome to the world of patches and mikeza.

Lying blockheads ... first class!

Henry120:


Na we don't claim.

We wanted to get AH-1w's from israel, the americans blocked it, we instead went for 12 additional up-graded MI-35 helicopters from belarus. No sweat.

And dummy, the CH-46 are for the Navy, not the Airforce.

You should be more concerned about purchasing aviation fuel for your Airforce.

"Weapons acquired during the 1999 arms deal are not being used and are becoming derelict, the Seriti Commission of Inquiry heard on Tuesday [October 7].

[b] “With regards to the 30 Augusta helicopters purchased from Italy, I am informed that many of them are in storage and unused or rotting at Ysterplaat Air Force Base in Cape Town,”

You should be more concerned with posting factual information. And not information that has already been thoroughly discredited.

Henry120:


The same issues, that have been confirmed by your defence minister

Mapisa-Nqakula said the Defence Review -- now before Parliament -- stated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.

If You expect me to take your words over your defence minister, your're obviously hallucinating.



SANDF faces funding crisis


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

Johannesburg daily The Times reported defence secretary Sam Gulube as saying a R1.1 billion budget shortfall could compel the SANDF into large-scale retrenchments and compulsory early retirement in order to survive and pay salaries.

The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions.

Gulube was speaking after briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee.



Before you comment further,

"South Africa's once-effective air force has new aircraft but cannot afford the fuel and maintenance needed to keep them in the air".

Please, go and by aviation fuel, this is really embarrassing for your airforce.

Those are two seperate quotes.

The one is future tense, and the situation has been resolved with new budgeting - where do you think the $400 million for training the new intervention unit came from?

the second is from a different source and you are obviously trying to mislead us.

Again, post fact not opinion

Henry120:


Poverty rate in Nigeria

It said in its second edition of the Nigeria Economic Report (NER) which was launched in Abuja that going by the recent rebasing of the economy as well as analysis from the new General Household Surveys (GHS) conducted by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) with the support of the Bank, new poverty estimates in 2010/2011 and 2012/2013 should be within the range of 35.2 per cent and 33.1 per cent respectively.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/...-33-1-/184259/

"Interest in Nigeria by international organisations and multinationals has continued to grow despite rising insurgency in the country, U.S-based economic advisory firm, Frontiers Strategy Group"

"The report, issued by the Wall Street Journal, said that out of 11 African countries in a survey conducted by the firm, Nigeria ranked first as the most preferred economy for investment by the multinationals, which included European and American firms."

http://businessdayonline.com/2014/06/nigeria-is-top-investment-destination-in-africa


Black middle class in South-Africa is only 15%, yet the morons make up 90% of the entire population.

You are very racist patrick, you're comfortable with the fact only a minority 7% of the population own 80% of the land, 90% of the economy and 100% of the defence industry. A country were white households make 10 times more than blacks. The most un-equal society on planet earth.

You are inherently racist patrick.

HAhahah!!

So Nigeria is saying that poverty is only around 31%? Bwahahahahah!! Even with your new false numbers, it is still 10% worse than south africa! Biggest economy and yet more poverty? Clowns!

Second, why am I racist? You are the one who is obsessed with race, you constantly post about race, you constantly bring it up. How is it relevant within the confines of this debate?